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I've brought it up a few times, but everyone else around the world seems ten times more concerned. Most people here generally just shrug it off. The older generation cares a lot about reuniting Korea again, but the kids don't seem to be too interested.
Korean diet fads are INSANE. In America we have pills for diets, but in Korea, every other woman will tell you she's on some sort of diet. It's especially disturbing coming from a skinny child. Most girls in Korea will talk about their bodies being too fat, too small, too anything. One of the most popular graduation gifts to girls leaving high school is plastic surgery of some sort.
The sexism here is insane. There are many times when I hear about something and it reminds me of the 1950's. Husbands forbidding their wives to work. Women must learn to cook and clean for men, but not the other way around. If you are divorced you do not talk about it because it is horribly shameful. If you have a child from a divorce, it is hard to get married because you are seen as "used". Thankfully this seems to be changing slowly with the younger generation, but it's still very odd to see.
In America hugging your students is somewhat against school policy. Especially once they get to be in 1st or 2nd grade. But most of us, even the male teachers, are encouraged to play and hug all of the kids.
The bullying for being half Korean is BRUTAL. Adults can hide it better, but the kids will tease half-Korean kids until they are beyond miserable. It's awful and it's common in Japan as well (according to a friend that works there)
This one was somewhat funny in a horrible sort of way. But Korea is very secluded from other cultures. Black people or anyone with dark skin is seen as "dirty" Not like, their personality or soul is dirty, but a few kids think that they are just literally covered in dirt. Everyone in Africa is dirty and poor, apparently.
Another part of the 1950's way of life here. Family issues are family issues. What happens at home is NOT discussed and never brought up. If a husband beats his wife, it's shameful for anyone to "butt in" and tell him to stop. I've had one or two incidents where I've had a student write about how they're scared of their dad when he drinks and starts throwing things. I've heard of students who are clearly being abused, but there is nothing we can actually do about it. Child Protective Services here is a joke or nonexistent.
I worked at this place for a month. The boss was obsessed with perfection. We were thrown into a classroom of 24 four year-olds who were normally allowed to run around and play the whole day. If we did not have every student actively engaged in the lesson, we were heavily scolded and called failures. I was put on probation for a week because in my circle one girl started crying because she missed her mom and another boy fell asleep because it was his nap time (these things happened every day. Again, 4 year olds).
Yes, I know, this is common everywhere. But compared to America? Wow. The boys constantly draw guns on everything they have. Any classroom activity they draw themselves with guns. They pretend to play with guns during break time.
I'm 130 and 5'4, not, in any sense of the word, fat.
Not just a kid thing. A lot of people in Korea are very blunt about appearances. I've got pretty big hips and thighs for my size and I was looking at pants one day. The woman of the store came over and immediately told me no and that I was too big for the clothes there.
Harsh.
I teach Elementary and this is fairly common for the area. Most of my students go to their Korean school, then they come to our English academy. Many others then go on to do clubs or other activities like ballet, soccer, piano, violin, etc. Most kids don't get home until around 9 or 10. I've heard this is even worse for high school students who are normally studying or in school from 7 am to 10pm.
FP edit: Few things I didn't mention:
Korea has an insane amount of bowling alleys
Parents will force their kids to talk to you in public to practice their English
People can be genuinely shocked if you can read or speak any Korean
The orange juice here tastes like Sunny D and not real orange juice.
People dye their dog's hair all the time.
Kids are left alone to wander around or they are left at home a lot.
You will never find salty chips. All chips are sweet or a little salty with sweet.
ALSO SOMEONE PLEASE SEND ME SALAD DRESSING.
MidlandRedux
This is how I describe "kdrama" - Korean television - to friends. Like American TV in the 50s. Everyone's a virgin. Family is all.
AnswerLady
Re: #1 They can't DO anything about living that close to N. Korea!
funkmaster40
I live in Korea too. Honestly no one even cares or keeps track of North Korea. After 60 years of hollow threats no one listens at all.
MrPredator
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GemsAreOutrageousTrulyTrulyTrulyOutrageous
Goddamn.
unlimited38
I teach in the US and I'll be damned if I won't hug a kid if they need it. You teach and care for the whole child, not just their academics.
spaghettiThunderbolt
Damn right. The best teachers are the ones that help mold quality people, not just quality students.
IsthisnametakenOHitstakenHowaboutbonerfarts
Taught in Korea. These all checks out. My kids poked my little gut and called me "hairy pig" aka "boar".
MalaysianOfficialNo2
well, asians will be asians.
ashmenon
Hello, Rosmah.
MalaysianOfficialNo2
Nope. Rosmah is MO no.1. Im no.2 :)
ashmenon
Cannot be la, he's dermawan, not dermatwo.
tisthetimetobejolly
Not trying to be rude or anything but in which part in Korea are you currently teaching? Because it seems to me that most of the things
tisthetimetobejolly
You have mentioned are quite old-generation kind of talk(especially the one about Africa...I think you might be generalizing abit too much)
mimblewimble
I teach near Seoul. These kinds of things are NOT common. But I work with younger kids who do not have filters.
soggylunch
As an American that has taught English in Korea : this is super accurate. Just add in some 80s clothing styles.
Thenthereweretacos
My friend grew up overseas. When he came back to the USA & saw a black person for the first time he said, he forgot to wash his hands.
GemsAreOutrageousTrulyTrulyTrulyOutrageous
Wash his hands, eh? https://youtu.be/TJkHykGRXrw (RIP Gene Wilder)
Gnoll
When I was 6 I was the hand washer inspector and I told the black kid I couldn't tell if his were clean, because, well, I couldn't? :/
Dragonogh
@OP, "Big thighs and hips for your size?" Sounds like my type. Also, Koreans hate extra body fat (like many E Asians).
mameha2244
The diets of K-pop stars are disturbing....having one meal a day is really common.
SuckAnElf
More like any body fat.
Heavymettle
Sounds like what Korea schools need is a Great Teacher Onizuka.
pontiacgirl75
OMG yes!! I wish there had been a teacher like him at my school, there'd be 0 bullying!
Koshka89
I enjoy these sorts of collections. Thanks, @OP
SaraSlaughter
Me too. I would LOVE to see anyone else jump in like this from their place of origin/wherever they are living or working. Go!
mimblewimble
I enjoy sharing all the strange things that I come across in this country. Thanks commenter.
ProphetJerematic
I can testify that Koreans are racist af but so good at concealing it. Where did you live? which city?
MandalorianMerc13
Hey, qq, are there like memorials and stuff there from the war, or do they just try to forget?
StormageddonDarkLordOfAllAKAAlfie
Don't stop here! Keep 'em coming. Thanks replier, formerly known as OP.
ShinyObject
Read that as "thanks commoner". ._.
IDontShutUpIGrowUp
#10 shopkeeper sounds like my mother in law. I'm SO fat. I even made my husband fat.
narcoleptiKnickers
Bullying halfs, "it's common in Japan". My kids are half as are some of my friends' kids. Never heard of any bullying.
bigfatcatandcow
unfortunately, it just comes down to the obsession for beauty. If the mixed kid is pretty, most likely no bullying but will receive praises.
ComfortMisha
One of my kids was made fun of for being half. She would purposely dumb down her English in class so that she would fit in.
hapabunny
Agreed, I don't think bullying of hapas is a shared experience
rshini
depends on what half. if the Hapas Korean/Japanese, it's god awful - others don't get it as much.
Ilikeyogurt
You guys family or wat? Bunny Rabbits
Ilikeyogurt
Hapas?
Nutinbutbootson
Yea, I was thinking that if there's a word for being half Korean and half something else, then it's probably not a positive thing.
GandalfUnicorn
It originates from Hawaiian Pidgin, basically just a reference to being mixed. There's some nuance based on who is using it though.
darkladyvanstar
...Your post made me really sad...
KeeperOfWind
So with me being black never go there? Got it. All in serious I think that is due to not having a lot of foreigners there over the years?
mimblewimble
They're never crude or anything. Not like American racists. It's just that you will get a LOT of questions and a LOT of people staring.
PamelaSplooshPoovey
Probably. East Asia's ethnic diversity is almost nonexistent, and they're super racist against other E Asians as well, not just "outsiders."
goldensky
East Asia is steeped in xenophobia. Has been for lots of its history, at least the small/island nations.
m0thballs
I was stationed there for 2 years, had the exact opposite experience. Korean girls LOVE black guys.
mormacil
They're racist but not American anti-black racist. It's more other asian minorities. Black is seen as weird, rare and animalistic.
thesejarsareforfartsonly
Which is pretty racist honestly.
mormacil
Sure but a totally different shade of racism.
PamelaSplooshPoovey
It's like...US racism 200 years ago
JKainY
I'm Half Korean Japanese and #5 resonates with me. I used to go to an exchange school in Japan and got shit on for being a "Half-Blood
twfeline
And yet, if you are good looking enough to be a model, you can be in high demand. Go figure.
Morpheous
Prince?
Guizaum
Well hello there to all my fellow half korean japanese friends!We should start a club
PamelaSplooshPoovey
They can literally look at you and tell you're half Korean and half Japanese?
mimblewimble
Not at all. but last names will sometimes give it away.
PamelaSplooshPoovey
Ahh gotcha
NOINITIATIVE
I had an Indian coworker ask me what I was, I told him "Mexican, so i'm a half-breed", he got really ashamed for me and apologized 1/2
NOINITIATIVE
2/2 my boss (who's also Mexican) and I looked at him and said "why?", we then explained we're mestizos and we've been around for centuries
NOINITIATIVE
I'm proud of my mixed heritage, and the fact i'm a little of everything means i'm not the subject of years and years of inbreeding
weeshful
wait, he was ashamed because he thought being multicultural was a shameful thing?
NOINITIATIVE
multiracial, yep
briarios3000
Before I understood Japanese, I used to smile at the cute groups of kids on the subway. Now I hear their ruthless bullying. They're terrible
SheerAnalBumParty
Geez, what is this, Hogwarts?
CollegeStudentProblems
Half korean jap here. Attended elementary school in SK. The fact that I was American and half Kor Jap was even worse. A kid tried to push me
DoYouSleepLateBecauseOfMovies
Kids can be mean, really fucking mean. Anyway, do you still live in S.K or visited again? Now that you're an adult, how do others treat you?
CollegeStudentProblems
No, I'm back in the US. I do run into many Koreans and I have very low opinions of them (mostly spoiled rich kids in BMWs and ferraris).
pontiacgirl75
too bad you wasnt in Newfoundland instead, you wouldve had tons of friends because you're part Asian
ShinyObject
I'm sorry. :c Kids can be jerks, but you didn't deserve any of that, and I'm guessing you're an pretty great person.
CollegeStudentProblems
Down a window from our 3rd story class room. Dumped chalk dust in my lunch. Stole my supplies. Laxatives in milk.... needless to say it made
CollegeStudentProblems
a mark on me that continues 20 years later
bachterman
you deserve a cyber-hug. here!
Obi1thejedi
As someone living in North Korea it's nice to know about our capitalist neighbor.
ARandomHelljumper
Wait, I thought you didn't have internet over there! Ya done fucked up now! Off to the Gulag, dissident!
mimblewimble
At least you can have Pokemon Go!
khazorath
Boys are obsessed with guns no matter the country
nightster07
& before that, it was all about the swords. I think It's an instinct to become the "protectors" of the "tribe".
Enpsychopedia
I think it's more due to their perceptions of heroes being based on knights and soldiers etc. Since they're heavily romanticised.
nightster07
Well, even chimp boys in the wild grow up making sticks & stones for hunting & warring which the females have no interest in.
Varroth
I'm not.
mimblewimble
Maybe it's because of where I'm from it's a lot stricter against boys playing that way. It's a lot more prevalent here.
sneef
I'm half white and brown is it still worth going visit OP? Or will I be shunned like them mixed kids :0
mimblewimble
Of course! Foreigners get treated very well in the cities! You're only really picked on if you're half korean and half something else.
liveandletrawr
I'd say the mandatory conscription also gives it a lot of context to make sense
sneef
I'm from cali and I can confirm, guns everywhere... Mostly everyone in USA grew up with the image of guns being awesome.
AssortedBandanas
I taught there too, once. I can't buy powder light enough for my skin, but I'm not quite albino. Kids told me I was beautiful constantly.
ashmenon
I met a girl who was going to Japan for modelling. I personally didn't find her attractive, but I recognize the type, super popular in >>
AssortedBandanas
At the time, self bronzing lotion was popular here, but they had rows of whitening lotion there. It was hard to find just regular lotion.
ashmenon
I'd say that's a difficult find in most markets. Typical marketing strategy is to shove as many features into 1 product as possible.
AssortedBandanas
Good point there. Plain old moisturizer isn't very sexy. I did find a few plain old Nivea bottles on the bottom row. :)
ashmenon
Ah, yes the bottom row. The shelf they don't want you to find. Also a name of a gay bar I once went to.
ashmenon
>> E.Asia. Pale white skin, a little freckly, reddish- or sun-blonde, waif-thin, usually light colored eyes.
Eichimaru
Picture? :3
LukkaPucca
I'm curious as well
LukkaPucca
Lol I don't know why you are being down voted so much...
AssortedBandanas
Witness the paleness here: https://imgur.com/FQqOwq2
AssortedBandanas
As you can see, I'm not a ravishing beauty and am not thin. thought the kids were brown nosing. But the comments kept on until I left.
AssortedBandanas
Technically challenged. I'm not sure how to do that in the app. :/
Eichimaru
Upload one, egomaniacly favorite it, and when replying to this comment click the heart next to "GIF" abd you should be able to post it.
Eichimaru
The easiest route would be to post one and copy past the link to it on here
AssortedBandanas
See other comments on my original reply.
desnecessario
Teachers in america can't hug their students? that's so cold!
panchitoz2
thats because america has a lot of pedophiles
abacab87
I think we have fewer, because we are open and honest about the threat. It's accepted at worse or denied in others.
panchitoz2
this is all i have to say to ignorance
DarnHyena
The worry of getting certain labels slapped on ya here can be quite the powerful thing
NOINITIATIVE
yes but that doesn't explain why my parents wouldn't do it...
PamelaSplooshPoovey
Even at my church's childcare (for BABIES!) we can't do "excessive touching." People are just terrified of getting sued :(
cerulee
Must be a recent thing. When I was in elementary school 20 years ago I hugged all my teachers, male and female and thought nothing of it.
mormacil
Few years back a male daycare member was caught abusing dozens of kids. After that people wanted to ban men from working in daycare etc.
cerulee
That's crazy. My first grade teacher was a man and he was one of my favorites.
mormacil
Oh it's retarded, total witchhunt. Sad about the kids but the guy was crazy, is gender was irrelevant.
weeshful
we get to give high fives...but that's about it
mimblewimble
Again, all it takes is for one kid to say that "Mr. Joe hugged me" and for a parent to flip out.
mormacil
Few years back a male daycare member was caught abusing dozens of kids. After that people wanted to ban men from working in daycare etc.
JasonAbbadon
TLDR: Korea is an open-minded pacifist culture where equality and acceptance is the norm.
SnarfConsoritum
Did you even read the posts or just skip to the bottom after the second one?
SealandIsARealCountry
I've got a gif of a graph and the curved line going up is the joke but fig1 representing you is below it. But i on a moble so its not here
MetaphoricalFox
Should I call the fire brigade or the EMT first?
t3hnosp0on
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SealandIsARealCountry
Thank you
isamux3
I was thinking of teaching English in Korea but I have bright red hair. How would I be treated?
mimblewimble
You'll be treated like all other foreigners. Kids will want to touch your hair, though.
Gnoll
Granted I was only there for a few days, but no one seemed to give AF that I was a westerner. Try to learn what's impolite in their culture.
Eichimaru
Lad or lady?
mormacil
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potatoesmakemeveryhappy
Would that matter to Koreans?
isamux3
I'm a dude, and its my natural hair color.
mimblewimble
People will stare and kids will want to touch your hair, but nothing bad.
isamux3
thats not that bad. I get the same reaction in the states.
mimblewimble
I have very curly hair and I've had strangers come and touch it before. Very odd.
isamux3
Also is that a harry potter reference in your name?
mimblewimble
fuck yeah it is.
PatricianVetinari
Well I suppose they are Worst Korea. It's sunshine and lollipops in Great Leader's Democracy!
TongueWagger
You are now banned from /r/pyongyang
Brunson80
picalhead
Not worst korea, false korea. Our great leaders glorious Korea is the only true korea.
mavi222
Kim doesn't judge your thighs. (at least not loudly)
TobySomething
In best Korea, nobody is too fat. Well, only one person
CapsShield
Grourious Reader is not fat! He is merely the standard for our country. We all wish we could be his body type!
ObamasBigBlackCaucus
Every day beach party!
AlwaysTrustTheManInABigWhiteVan
Scrub Korea < Best Korea
deathtokimjongun
Fuck that guy
WhenLifeHappens
Shhh!!! They'll hear you!
Fartgoblinzz
carebearsandstares
@OP In General China, Korea, Japan are pretty racist and have very strict racially based immigration policies.
briarios3000
I don't disagree, but I know lots of foreign Asian people in Japan. It's not so strict if you have an education, skills, spouse, etc.
LukkaPucca
And they are racist toward each other as well...as a Korean I know
ShinyObject
Yep. When I lived there it seemed the hierarchy was something like Koreans >whites >non-white/non-Asian people > other Asians and happas. :/
BeautifulUnicornNurse
Not even just the 1st world countries. Philippines is really racist too. My hubby has had to work hard to not be racist in America.
RepostSadistic
How can you say that? Only white Americans are racist, according to SJWs
carebearsandstares
In group preference is natural, just like if you had a business partner, you don't want someone coming in & taking what both of you built.
RepostSadistic
Not sure why I am getting downvoted. Because I am right, or because I am wrong?
carebearsandstares
Racism is overused, the mechanism here is more selfishness not hate. Basically wanting only people who help built the system to benefit...
FerricNitrate
Xenophobia is the term everyone is looking for
carebearsandstares
Like building a house with your partner and only wanting it for your family, shrugs is that wrong/selfish?
aPokal
Denying someone to become a part of that family.
ShinyObject
More like putting out a "rooms for rent" sign, but then treating your roommates shittily and unequally.
ShinyObject
It's fine to say "you can't live here". Not so fine to say "you can live here, but you can't sit on the couch or cook in the kitchen or.."
ShinyObject
If you want people to live & work in your country, you can't treat them as lesser human beings. If you don't want them, close your borders.
scipe
Not fully awake reading this and read "a class full of 24 year olds" I was quite confused.
SwiggityDiggitySwoo
ditto
DasLinds
I am awake and read the same thing.
giitsok
I've been awake for hours and had to re read it a couple times and finally go "ohhhhhhh 24 FOUR year olds" and glad I wasn't the only one
Yellowbirdonthestreet
Glad I'm not the only one who thought that.
lesbehonester
Thank you for saying this, it didn't make sense until now.
mobigz
Yeh
reverseblumpkin
Brazzers
aap71
i've seen this film
ReallyBadAtImgur
Reminds me of the joke "What's the best part about having sexing with twenty four year olds? There's twenty of them."
raminagrobis
I mean if they're allowed to run around and play whole day, let's go to Korea
ElbowdeepinElmo
Come to North Korea, supreme leader cares for all you need. Play all day, no work.
scipe
No work no food. Nobody poops.
Improbabilitydrive42
It's not really 'playing' it's study schools-hagwons,학관, where they study until 1am & the get up for school at 6am 가자! >let's go!
tagiau
Sounds like a normal work day.
dancealittlestranger
Don't worry. I did that too.
RyanForehand
Lived in Korea for 2 and half years it's a awesomely fun place. Seoul the war museum and a lot of the palaces are amazing to visit.
PamelaSplooshPoovey
Another job post??
panchitoz2
yay war museums
RyanForehand
the e-markets in Seoul where my favorite places would go there every other week.
eskymojoe
Would love to know what the E stands for
tezzeret890
Egg
CheekyBreeki
Ethan Bradberry
ashmenon
Ero. Ero-markets are basically porn shops.
tatches
Enema
TangledMess
Eel
TheBinky
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yongsan_Electronics_Market is what was being referred to
GTimgur
Keyword: visit! Actually engaging with the culture on a consistent and meaningful way? Depressing. :(
PamelaSplooshPoovey
Story time?
GTimgur
I'd love to, but there's so much, it's kind of overwhelming. I don't know where to begin! And a lot of people would probably get butthurt >
GTimgur
about cultural observations, just like to OPs post. Country chock full of evangelical Christians, deeply culturally isolated (black people >
GTimgur
can wash their skin white, what?), superstitious (fan on you while sleeping can be lethal), historically rich, words used to refer to others
PamelaSplooshPoovey
2) But seriously, would love a link to a story post if you ever decide to make one :)
PamelaSplooshPoovey
So fucking what if they're offended? Just tell it like it is. I thought we were supposed to "celebrate diversity" haha
BuzzScumcock
Is it easy for foreigners to get laid there, I think is the question we all have.
ashmenon
If you're white, oh yes. Much more so if you're blond and/or have blue eyes.
katehudsonx
Kinda, but not really. Being a handsome white male helps, but you still have to do the work. Although there are some girls with white guy
mormacil
And no facial hair right? At least that's what I heard.
katehudsonx
Fetish. But they are generally low hanging fruit and have many red flags. But in general, most guys success rates here is slightly better
fish1552
If you pay the prostitutes it is. But we were always warned about Black Syphilis*. As bad as Blue Waffles.
BuzzScumcock
Follow up, are the prostitutes hot?
fish1552
You pay for what you get.
JaegerBombster
Had some buddies who got some. Can confirm
humptyblargh
In the late 80s I lived for a year in an area of Seoul called Itaewon, where there were a lot of nightclubs where Korean ladies would go 1/?
humptyblargh
specifically to see/meet American guys. There was a sort of triage to sorting out the lookyloos from the ones who wanted to get laid. Ask 2/
humptyblargh
a girl to dance. If she says no,move on. If she does, ask her to dance a second song. If she says no, move on. After a second song, ask 3/?
humptyblargh
if she wants a drink, if not, move on. After a drink, dance again. Ask if she wants to go get something to eat. If she does, you're on 4/5
humptyblargh
the glide path. Buy ramen, etc. from a street vendor, and while eating, ask if she wants to see your apartment. Got laid every weekend. 5/5
PamelaSplooshPoovey
I feel like Asian women dig the white boys, but Asian guys couldn't care less about us white girls :(
BuzzScumcock
No way, the other way around for sure.
PamelaSplooshPoovey
Dude where I live, almost every single interracial couple I've ever seen is white guy/Asian girl.
BuzzScumcock
Interesting, totally the other way around where I live. We should switch houses.
PamelaSplooshPoovey
Life swap? I'm down haha. Where do you live? I'm in SEA, and we have a huge Asian population. I just never see white girls + Asian guys
mormacil
Well you're all 'fat' :P
PamelaSplooshPoovey
Oh right forgot about that haha
mormacil
It's okay, it compensates the Middle East :P
PamelaSplooshPoovey
What, do they have a white girl fetish?
stevedolphin
My white cousin in China. Attending a wedding. Special dress needed. Measurements given to seamstress "no, these wrong. No one that fat"
RiggityRiggityRektSon
Time for cheap Chinese plastic surgery!
rugmiem
You doctor, yet?
mimblewimble
I'm an M in the US and here it's either XXL or I can't find it.
issaaccbb
LOL
DiarrheaTouchdown
I'm 6' and 140lbs. I usually buy mediums in shirts, but I was buying a sweatshirt in LA and the Asian woman working there corrected me 1/2
DiarrheaTouchdown
I grabbed a medium to hold up and she comes up and goes "no, no" and took it away and gave me a large. She was right though, they ran small.
Upinthecold
Ran small ;-)
Ilikeyogurt
justlivinthedream
"I'm American." "Ohhhhh, say no more."
ShentoSama
"I got you, fam."
mkreku
I ordered shirts from China. I'm a large in Europe. Ordered XXL to be sure it fit. It didn't. Gave it to my medium cousin. Still too small..
slyvic
My wife is Taiwanese and she wears XS/S in the US. She's considered "big" in her country.
lesbehonester
Why you no skinny yet?
basball6969
I now wanna see those very fat legs
ItsUncleSam
When everyone in the country is size -4, people who are normal sized seem much bigger I guess.
SigynRose
Sheesh and I thought being fat was a big deal here
StormageddonDarkLordOfAllAKAAlfie
Went to a Vietnamese wedding. Everyone was super duper nice and their traditions were really neat.
TicoGuy
Yeah people think there is Fat shaming in America.... Please in Asia you have to be XS
darkladyvanstar
...I just want to slap someone for that, probably because I expect people to be raised better than that..but I guess, they were not...
KPopGirlKimi
You do understand the meaning of different cultures and different traditions right? Not everyone had a white christian upbringing.
darkladyvanstar
That has nothing to do with Christianity besides, I am not white, mate...NOR Christian. That comment was hilarious.
glamdringwielder
Different culture.
microtavor5
I've got a shirt with sizes from around the world on the tag US/EU/UK/Normal Counties: Small, Japan: Medium
madeleine61509
more like "normal countries: XS, Japan/China: L"
briarios3000
That seems suspicious. In my experience, China has plenty of "big & tall" people.
stevedolphin
But this was a woman too: as frequent?
SteveTypeRs
They do, but they don't have social niceties. If they think you're fat, they will tell you you're fat.
briarios3000
Ah yes. I see.
swedishbutthurtguy
You skinny yet? Come back when you skinny!
IFuckingLoveGoldenRetrievers
Bahahah
HeartsAndStars
Why are you Swedish?
ashmenon
Why are you a guy?
HeartsAndStars
Did he just assume his own gender?
Yesnomaybluurgh
Why are you butthurt :c ?
BattleMercy
People downvoting him, read the other guy's name. God damn.
HypnoChanger
It's a very long story but I will try to condense it into one hundred and forty characters if I can. Well see, the reason he is butthurt is-
SuperiorPosterior
His father's a dick.
beartato
Shit. I'm Chinese and they don't have anything that can shit my shoulders. I'm also like 150 lbs heavier than the average person in China.
beartato
American diets sure is great.
SnartHelg
you probably don't want to shit your shoulders tho
beartato
oh fuck
tikimiki
s korea went from 3rd world country to one of the top 1st wourld countries in half a century. unlke tech,social standards are slow to change
mimblewimble
It also has to do with the "Respect your elders" culture. Grandma is always right, even if grandma is sexist and racist.
Dikbag
Yeah, this post smacks of someone fresh to the country. I've lived here 5 years-- reading this now is honestly crinsgeworthy.
carebearsandstares
What allowed a society to prosper is different from what it becomes & doesn't mean its better, Plato describes these phases in the Republic.
EnDeRWiGiN
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qatersaghira
Honestly I can't imagine it having been a third world country. I guess I just presumed it was rich even before tech. Oh dear lol.
BarryGeibel
actually all that first and third world stuff originated from the cold war, and who was allies with whom. But their economy is top notch now
GTimgur
It's a bubble economy that's about to pop. Same timescale as US and Japan. They'll be due in a few years. :\
DoYouSleepLateBecauseOfMovies
Care to explain? I find their economy to be pretty stable compared to their neighbours. Unless the Chinese economy collapsed, S.K is okay.
GTimgur
Same as always. Short answer is bad loans and credit lines. That easy debt is generated only because it can be easily sold. But since it's >
GTimgur
based on unreliable debtees, eventually someone can't pay, no one can/wants to buy the debt again, and you have a cascade collapse.
IOnceOwnedMoonMoonButOnceHeTriedToLickMyBallsAndRanAwayIMissHim
What makes you say the Korean economy is a bubble, ready to pop?
SgtCookie111
Because it's a Capitalist economy that is inherently unstable?
GTimgur
Same as elsewhere. Short answer is bad loans and credit lines. That easy debt is generated only because it can be easily sold. But since >
GTimgur
it's based on unreliable debtees, eventually someone can't pay, no one can/wants to buy the debt again, and you have a cascade collapse.
trout007
Maybe the train they are so successful is because of the same norms the west had as it rose to power. Now that we abandoned those we decline
PositiveX96
While I get what you are trying to say, OP brought up legitimate concerns about women rights, it is not just "norms"
Dorsk84
Well I think/hope you ment norms of "work/study....hard" and we get ahead. No hand outs. Not the sexism and racism that was prevalent.
trout007
Why? Having a cohesive society of norms vs multicultural suicide seems to be working for them.
ludwigsholyblade
2016, dude. I'd like to know how treating women and different races like people destroyed our society.
AntoineTheSwan99
when you bring in a a bunch of foreigners and apply no pressure for them to assimilate it leads to self segregation and more harm then good.
trout007
Women are more miserable since they have been tricked to work and pay races instead of being mothers. Those countries still get it.
plyinglemon
Yes, I'm sure if we just let husbands beat the piss out of their wives and make them stay home, everything will go back to being wonderful .
trout007
Isn't that Hillary's vision importing the Muslims?
Habreon
Make America bruised again?
additionalinfo
Quick, let's all invest in concealer.
Counterfit
Import all the wives!
carebearsandstares
Every culture society is different, Think its a mistake to think they will be "like us", Japan is still very much "conservative" like Korea.
BourbonBuck
It's ethnocentricity. Unfortunately everyone thinks their way is the best way and declares all other forms of life immoral.
briarios3000
Yes, I agree. I also understand OP's point about the 1950s, though—I often say that Japan today is living the American Dream from the 50's.
MargoMcKnew
That's a neat thought.
QuasarsAndBlazars
Yeah it was great for wealthy white straight men...
MintMission
Sexism is wrong, and if that's your culture, it should change.
carebearsandstares
That's how wars are started, taking absolute positions that your value system/culture is superior. A sort of Racial/cultural superiority.
picalhead
How is this a bad reply? wtf imgur? this is basically the prime directive, just because a culture is different to your own (1/2)
picalhead
doesnt make it inferior (yes even if its cruel or 'wrong'), and thus is not your place to impose upon. (2/2)
MintMission
I didn't say my culture is superior. My family is pretty fucking sexist. I would like them to change too.
MintMission
In this case sexism means:women not being allowed to make their decisions, stuck in abusive relationships,and openly shamed for their looks.
Dikbag
The problem is that's not an accurate depiction of Korea. I live here. That is a hopelessly narrow understanding gleaned from a image post.
QuasarsAndBlazars
Yes but some things accepted in Korea are objectively wrong, and will change in time, like the sexism aspect.
BourbonBuck
No such thing as objectively wrong.
Pantafle
There is no such thing as objectively wrong morally speaking. There just isn't.
carebearsandstares
There are things Korean/Chinese/Japanese think is wrong in the US, but we think are okay, so who is right?
rollercostarican
so you're saying if slavery is apart of a culture, we cant say that's wrong?
BourbonBuck
Not without being ethnocentric and acting as morally superior to other peoples. You can take the stance but it's not 100 right
QuasarsAndBlazars
1) I'm not talking about cultural differences, but the idea that society inevitably moves towards equality for all, so Korea is outdated
carebearsandstares
Asian societies based on Confucianism are notoriously authoritarian, but have proven to be very successful.
Dikbag
Fallacious. Some of the values in Korea are simply non-western. Some things change, some things just permutate.
QuasarsAndBlazars
2) in that aspect of their society, but the post mentions the newer gens are slowly changing, but still a long way from Gender equality
DefinetlyNotObsessed
Morals are completely subjective so...
carebearsandstares
Wheres your evidence that society eventually adopts certain values? If you look at all of history and today that is not true.
BourbonBuck
That literally is culture differences. Equality for all is not the goal of society especially since there is no physical thing as society
carebearsandstares
Singapore one of the richest countries shouldn't be conservative & should be like the US? Maybe your Western values are not universal?
carebearsandstares
Thats a value system based on culture and your bias. Japan is one of the most advanced economies and is still societally like Korea.
Curiousone545
If someone tells you you can't leave the house, because of your gender (m/f), would you be ok with that? Some things arn't right. for anyone
BourbonBuck
That is your personal belief though. That doesn't make it objectively true at all.