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So it's my first Cake Day and I actually remembered to repost my 1st favorite! Yay Send me little love with an up vote.
Sep 16, 2018 4:23 PM
DillonPro365
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So it's my first Cake Day and I actually remembered to repost my 1st favorite! Yay Send me little love with an up vote.
KingCanvey
Hoptimonium
The real crime here is that we're not putting more resources towards scientific advancement.
chemicalBagel
The US has spent $5.6 T on war in the Middle East since 2001. Anyone who complains about wasteful spending can get bent.
CakeDaySenderella
Happy Cake Day
imadethiswheniwastooyoungshootme
My eyesight has gotten so worse lately, I am ever so grateful for that lil red box
talenphillips
"BUT YOU'LL KILL THE CHURCHES." ... "And?"
KlatuGort
People on Facebook, are dumb.
cheeseburger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtQkz0aRDe8&t=0s related
ExploratoryDentalSurgery
If you taxed churches their enormous charitable giving would be decimated- taken over and spent (as always) inefficiently by The Government
FeChefImgur
@CakeDaySenderella
barkappara
This argument is fundamentally wrong. It's called the "broken window fallacy": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_broken_window
barkappara
I have nothing against NASA. But saying "doesn't matter what we spend money on" is wrong; we *could* spend directly on helping the poor
tarkus10
The Size of the Bank Bailout: $29 Trillion...oh, but let's deregulate the crap out of them since they so such a good job unsupervised...!
CarpeMofo
Also, NASA makes money. They patent and sell technologies they develop. They bring in way more money than they spend.
amynanamouse
Well I'm not giving up my chips.
trevordelarosa
All this money spent on stupid shit like paying fucking politicians way too much money and spending money on war when we could take half of
trevordelarosa
That money and put it into our schools and hospitals and taking care of our own people. The American people have the ability to fix our own
trevordelarosa
Problems but our leadership is too busy blowing our money on shit that really doesn’t matter instead of investing in ourself and our future
Korobase
nono, money gets burned after you spend it.
TheG1fMaker
Joke or Idiocy?
Korobase
why not both
katsumiblisk
Fucking misinformation invented by lowlife points grabbers will be the death of this Society
Dcahno
What we learn by sending things into space eventually end up helping the economy through the tech developed. eg: GPS, lasers,etc
Magisterial
Woah common sense. This is rare since November of 2016...
Krogs322
I hate every single person who is SMUG about their ignorance. And before you ask, yes, I hate myself too.
Morrigi
If we taxed churches, they'd be entitled to direct political representation through lobbying. After all, no taxation without representation!
PhysicsPhil
Even though this has been reposted 13 billion trillion times on imgur, I still agree with it. So, +1. It's not a win. I'm just weak.
thisaccountisnotentirelyjustforsmut
Still a waste sending 7 billion dollars worth of potato chips to Mars though..
LurkerOfDarkness
Yeah, Matt Damon needs actual potatoes.
OhMyGodWhoTheHellCaaares
Fahargo
Even the nonsense about getting boat loads of money by taxing churches?
Skizzlesnap
Well by using 2012 data there are 384k churches, so technically if you taxed them $6510.42 a month you could build a new rover every month.
Fvckya
That's not nonsense. Churches shouldn't be tax exempt.
joeinsurgent
What exactly do you plan to tax a church for?
Fvckya
Property and income. Same as everybody else. Clergymen earn pay and the church takes up space.
supermonke
Taxes are based on profits, not incomes. There's a huge difference!!!
joeinsurgent
Clergy often pay self-employment tax; churches pay property tax.
dekket
Wow. People are fucking dumb.
Krogs322
Reminds me of some idiot woman was all "why go to the moon if we don't even know what the ocean is like?" like fuck off and enjoy space.
shutard
I know. People have no idea how terrible the consequnces of taxing the church would be.
ssjalhazred
What, a lot of whining?
BEDSTANDSTANDS
Food, medicine, bills, rides to work, school supplies, and even housing. That's just what my church has helped with this month in our....
BEDSTANDSTANDS
Its so sad that I list off ways my church has helped people and it still gets down voted for helping people in need.
BEDSTANDSTANDS
Community. Some churches do abuse the non profit and I hate it but to take away that from a church like mine means we now can't help like...
BEDSTANDSTANDS
Before. Non profits of all kinds abuse the system. Not just churches. Its something that needs to be assessed for all non profits.
GhostbusterGuy
If we removed the church from tax exemption, they'd have the right to demand direct representation within the Federal government.
Haiddon
churches are tax exempt because they're non profit organizations, not because they carry the title of church.
BEDSTANDSTANDS
Removing the tax exemption from churchs won't fix this. The mega churches that abuse this will be fine and the small churches in communities
BEDSTANDSTANDS
Will be the ones hurt and closing the doors.
rexkraft
So what?
BEDSTANDSTANDS
So what? That means churches that are providing food, help with bills, rides to jobs and doctors, and help in the community would close....
BEDSTANDSTANDS
That's what would happen. I understand the anger with mega churches and that abuse but to hurt and close all churches and not care is the...
BEDSTANDSTANDS
Wrong direction if you care about feeding and helping people.
Sykopomp
Downvoted will come, but countries gain far more in charitable acts from the Catholic church alone to justify tax exemption for all churches
rexkraft
Actually churches use a very small percentage of their budget for charity (from 30% all the way down to less than 1%) while Charities spend
rexkraft
Around 80% - 90% of their budget on ctual charity, so yeah, we would be better off without churches
dm80x86
Oh like sex ed. Abstinence only is a joke; and the other sex ed is just wrong.
TitanicGaming360
The US military, especially the Air Force, should have their budget cut to one-sixth of what it is now and told to shut the fuck up and deal
TheG1fMaker
We spend 600x as much money on our F-16s than Germany with the Luftwaffe, all planes combined.
Sykopomp
Yea and then China increases aggression in the South China Sea and Russia begins to move into Poland and East Germany.
Sykopomp
But at least the American hippies will be happy
TitanicGaming360
South China Sea really isn't my problem. Russia wouldn't do that, because Germany would throw a hissy fit and then the Hungarians would 1/2
TitanicGaming360
fucking murderize the Russkies because they've realized they're next on the chopping block. 2/2
Sykopomp
Russia is already at war by proxy through Syria. And the South China Sea is only a small part of it. If they control that they control-
Sykopomp
-the sea they control all of its coasts by default. China also has a massive population of males, far more than women-
Sw1ftTurtle
I fully support NASA and I don't think exploration is a waste, but the idea of 'put back into the economy' is BS. The problem is the 1/
Sw1ftTurtle
2 engineers building rockets are not building bridges or irrigation systems. The money isn't at all important, it's the goods and 2/
Sw1ftTurtle
services produced in the process that matters. A capitalist economy needs money flow but that doesn't mean that 3/
Sw1ftTurtle
the flow is the only thing that matters. It matters what goods and services are produced.
Sunn
Okey, I can stop scrolling down, this is what I was looking for. Well explained
Sw1ftTurtle
Thank you, and a good day to you too sir.
HelpSmuggler
Yeah it's like the broken window thing. Sure, the fact money is exchnaged is beneficial to the economy, but a more useful/ utility maximisi
HelpSmuggler
Good will be more beneficial
FrogBotherer
The $2.4 trillion spent on Iraq and Afganistan should annoy people a bit more.
BurntToast127
The money doesnt get sent to Iraq and Afghanistan. (Idiot) > to quote accurately.
anonnona887
2.4 trillion accounted for. Was way more then that give or take, most was put back half a decade after it was audited.
chamilitary
Definitely could have wiped out 100 peoples student loans with all that cash and have some left over for a cheeseburger.
degenerator
Not really much of a financial burden. It's covered mostly by interest from student loan debt.
Whwat
bbbbut they did 9-11!
RobCrawford2
Especially given the way the Iraqis and Afghanis have acted since.
dm80x86
I would rather burn the money than spend it to kill people.
Fairdinkums
You guys are fucking outrageous
TakeItEasyPolicy
It annoyed Iraquis and afghans alright
fsharp
But it got spent back into the economy!!!!
allmostthere1234
That and the lives lost.
insevin
Worth every cent long as radical groups still plot against innocents. Combating terrorism always necessary. Don't be sheep to negative press
insevin
You guys are right, we shouldn't go to war. Just let them bomb us at home on a regular basis. Downvoters should be first victims.
DukePhelan
Didn't they lose literally pallets of cash to the sum of over a billion dollars or something? With all the waste it hard to keep track.
Frogapus
Especially considering that the Iraq war was initiated under false pretenses.
Frogapus
The Scott Ritter quote is solid: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction#2003_Iraq_War
neutronfish
And $7 trillion to bail out bankers and traders for gambling with our money, then give them round after round of tax cuts.
neutronfish
If you’re going to privatize your gains, that’s fine. Just don’t expect to socialize your losses then.
RepostFromLastWeek
Do you hate our troops or something? That sounds like commie talk to me.
PercivalLongbottom
Not sure if intended sarcasm or not. *Squint
JamieSmyth
The sarcasm eould be easier to detect if there weren't people who actually talk like that.
RepostFromLastWeek
Yeah I forgot Imgur requires the /s tag.
TheAsterite
Where do you think that money went? People got paid, equipment got made.
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AllThatJazzzzz
They also complain about the poor people getting benefits, tbf.
The701
Money spent for tools and resources dedicated to the purpose of destroying things made by or for people. Net gain may not be good.
ANDY0UARE
But we could have paid people to run fiber internet to everyone house or build new infrastructure that would help grow the economy.
CometLaHal
This is a joke right?
pfsar
$20 billion PER YEAR was spent just on air conditioning in Afghanistan and Iraq. Google it if you don’t believe me.
iamleejn
Billions of dollars in cash just disappeared during the reconstruction. Between corruption and misappropriation, $9 billion vanished.
FrogBotherer
Where did the money go is a good question. The answer to which is apparently "dunno, lol". Up until last year the DoD had never been audited
Catimodes
I'm proud of billions being spent on exploring the Solar System. I'm ashamed of billions being spent on killing each other.
Imafishwithlegs
Im just going to say it, The wars in the middle east kept the fighting there, not like today where the conflict has spread into Europe
Notme68
Terrorists were bombing in Germany when I lived there in the late 70s early 80s. How is it different now, really?
Imafishwithlegs
Because during the war, as terrible as it was they were more worried about the enemy at their door than attacking them abroad
talenphillips
While we're talking about terrorism, lets not forget "The Troubles".
Imafishwithlegs
The war had terrible consequences but it braught the conflict to them instead of the conflict always coming to western countries
millanbel
Has it? I see conflict only in Ukraine, and that has nothing to do with the middle east.
talenphillips
It hasn't. He's talking about terrorism, which certainly isn't new to europe.
Imafishwithlegs
Im talking the rise of ISIS and other terror groups as wells the several truck attacks shootings and acid attacks from radical individuals
onijitankobo
please check out why ISIS even started. Wouldn't have happened without the war in Iraq.
Imafishwithlegs
ISIS mabey, but the reason the whole war started was because of a terror group that exsisted before the war, so these groups still existed
Doumdidoum
And Afghanistan has not seen an once of progress in 16 years...
alcaray
When was the last time al qaeda attacked America from Afganistan?
Doumdidoum
AQ is not the problem. The talibans are. If left unchecked, they will retake Afg and swarm Pakistan.
alcaray
AQ were the problem on 9/11/11. They are not a problem now, as I pointed out in my post.
LurkerOfDarkness
You can easily add a 0 at the end of that number, and to be frank, adding 2 won't be much of an exaggeration.
ozjuggler
No. They took a backwards step in the 1980s. https://www.boredpanda.com/afghanistan-1960-bill-podlich-photography/
Doumdidoum
Worst investment ever.
Hembrent
Oh, it had a lot of progress not all too long ago. Then some farmers fucked it all up.
HelpSmuggler
I think the last part is a bit of an oversimplification, unless I'm getting the time period wrong? Can you elaborate
Hembrent
It's always a simplification, but yeah some people were opposing the changes and rebelled. Been a while since I read the whole story.