Dude wants to dictate the entire fuckin world at this point. Thinks he's holding all the cards when he's holding goddamned UNO cards in a texas hold'em.
Waiting for all the NRA 2A gun nuts who debated for years it is about protecting us from government tyranny to step up and take care of this like they claimed they would.
No no no, if he says this now, he can take credit for the UK changing these laws on their own if they come to a new trade deal so he can tell his cult that his deals with foreign countries are producing the results they want, even if it isn’t monetary. He’s so predictable
It's not enough to weaken the USA. The goal is to weaken the west. Anything Trump does, ask yourself if a Russian spy would it. Tell me it doesn't make sense.
We have. He keeps sending us these dumbfuck pitches and we keep saying no. He wanted us to lower our food safety standards so we could buy American beef & poultry...
We're an island made of farms, and he thought we'd change our laws so we could import inferior, dangerous produce just to make him happy.
We've been telling him to fuck off quite a bit recently actually. It's refreshing after the years the torys spent enabling him.
why does anyone even still do trade deals with the US? let them dry out, last i heard they import 50% + food, lets see the USA handle a huge food crisis, soon enough judges will get rid of trump.
How will judges get rid of Trump? Are they going to beat him with their gavels? The filth sure as fuck isn't going to help them, seeing as how they all LOVE where this is going (right up ntil the ones that fail the paper bag test all get sent to death camps while the remainers point and laugh at them).
What are you talking about? Judges can’t get rid of trump that’s not how that works. Also we have plenty of food grown right here within the United States borders. I would like to see nations stop trading with us though to make a shift in peoples ideas about the rest of the world and consequences of our actions when everything we use to distract ourselves is no longer available.
Your info is incorrect. We are massive net exporters of food. We import lots of fruits and veggies, as do all developed nations, but the one thing you can’t do is starve us out. The US has massive amounts of farmland and ag infrastucture relative to our population. The better bet is to take away our toys.
Your info is also incorrect. while we do have stretches of farmland and some ag infrastructure, who is going to work all the fields and all the other stuff? we can definitely be starved but before that even happens heads WILL roll, preferrably down the steps after being freshly cut. we just haven't reached that point.
Unfortunately, there will always be poor people to work the fields and the meat packing plants. The collapse of global trade, or even just the world leaving the U.S. out, will only increase that population. I hope heads roll as well, but that’s more likely to happen because we have too much food due to lack of export markets than it is from too little food.
that's what the for-profit prisons are for. you can lease out the inmates for field work and such. it's modern day slave labour without the term slave.
Part of the toys is food. SUre we have a lot of farmland and while Im not knowledgeable, im sure we have certain basics covered, but if all of the random shit from all over the world I see in any grocery store in america is gone, because the prices go up 5X and only the wealthy can afford it...
If all that random shit from all over the world goes away, we won’t starve. It would suck ass (unless you’re big fan of turnips and beets all winter) but we wouldn’t starve. The concept that we are dependent on imports for 50% of our food is complete hogwash.
I mean, we already have a ton of people living in food insecure situations. Like 50 million. So it's not a leap to think this will become a starvation situation when food prices significantly rise. All the stock feed corn and beans still won't be sold to the people, those farmers will still sell for animal feed in other countries. People will starve, companies will make a ton of money. Citizens United will have completed its goal of making America shittier.
I cant comment on that, my only point is when you were saying the best bet is to take our toys away... toys includes luxury foods and forcing most Americans to rely on Idaho potatoes, Kansas corn and Texas beef or whatever. That is taking away one of our toys, even if it wouldnt normally be categorized as a "toy".
Thank you all the people who kept supporting JKR and pretended it wasn't a big deal, and who felt safe to attack trans people over the matter because they just really wanted to keep giving her more money for some stupid fucking franchise. I also recommend checking out which of your favourite celebrities and politicians follow JKR in social media to get a better picture who share her viewpoint.
Not quite. The ruling was to make a clear legal definition of what a woman is, which they said is now based on biological sex. They also stated that the law change still provides transgender protection against discrimination and that it was not their place to weigh in on those definitions in the wider public debate.
No, a judge was asked to clarify what the existing Equality Act from 2010 says. It wasn't written with trans women in mind, so the definition as currently written doesn't include them. The judge isn't saying they agree with it or that that's what it should be, just that that's what the current Act says. The current Act could be updated, though, and hopefully this clarification is the impetus to do that.
Hey man this is just somebody posting a fucking screen grab from Twitter or Facebook but no goddamn link for fake Internet points so you probably shouldn't ask them. Yes I ran into that headline first with a fucking citation from an actual person who contributes to this website without this bullshit crap.
Hey, let the man take credit for something he didn’t do or influence in any way, you know, like he always does with his political party because those morons always fall for it
Yes and no. The protections they already had, remains. This ruling was largely to clear up uncertainties that the law didn't yet cover. It is certainly short sighted and I don't think they have thought it all the way through. It seemed largely predicated on the belief that 'trans' are just men in women's clothing. I feel this issue will be revisited when burly, bearded trans men start using the legally mandated women's bathrooms and I can't imagine the Scottish government will be too...
Not to worry! Sinn Féin is here to explain that *actually* the ruling *clearly* states that trans women can't be discriminated against if someone *mistakes* them for a woman and is discriminating them on the basis of incorrectly believing they are a woman. /s
Yup. Trans women are excluded from women-only spaces. Trans men are also excluded from these spaces despite fitting the ridiculous criteria. The fucking terfs were out celebrating with champagne. I was already terrified of using public toilets (only used twice since transitioning) and now I CAN'T. I'm going to a comedy show tomorrow night over an hour away from home. If at any point in the night need to pee I'm screwed
I’m so sorry. The British viewpoint on trans women makes me sick. Mumsnet was full Of gloating old cows exclaiming how happy they were with the decision. Disgusting.
I'm so sorry that people who aren't allowed to be themselves, cause of family/religion/community/etc., hate themselves so much that the only thing that makes them feel better is tearing down those who are their authentic selves. We're all just apes with anxiety trying to survive.
Sorry for me being dumb but: How could anyone notice you're trans? There are non-trans women looking more manly than the most Transpersons I saw. Wouldn't it be possible to snuck in unnoticed or would this get you in big trouble? (I'm so sorry the UK bended to the Terfs!)
Yeah, just go and pee in peace. No one is forced to disclose that kind of information and you're allowed to say stuff like "Excuse me but I AM a biological woman, I just have (if you have any issues) a genetical/hormonal condition" and get very huffy and insulted about it. Also accusing the other person back can create enough diversion to leave the situation. There's rly no need to risk your own safety to be open about it IF anyone questions,better to look after yourself first and foremost.
I hate this timeline. (I'm very feminin and have huge boobs. Still s.o. confused me with a guy only seeing me from behind. I think I should go into drag King and than using the ladies bathroom just to fuck with them and their bigotery. And when they protest use the form of Anasyrma to shut them up. Dear Trans sisters stay safe!)
Antiscience in 2025 is really sad. Most people prefer to be intelligent and educated but you are still flaunting around your own uneducated ass like that something to be proud about.
I hate this. Like, just let people fucking piss please.
And lets be real, does anyone really think that if a man wanted to invade women's spaces, the're going to let the sign on the door stop them? no problems breaking laws against assault, rape, murderm but that "women's WC" sign, that's the line in the sand they won't cross? Really?
Also I like to remind these people that gay/bi men have been pissing next to them unknowingly for their entire lives without issue. People go to the bathroom to piss and shit and leave.
The people doing this know how absurd that is. They don't care. It's all about hate. It's all about cruelty. It's all about making trans people alienated and uncomfortable and hated by everyone so they'll either stay in the closet or jump off a bridge--the right doesn't really care which.
The exact point I've been arguing for years. It's NEVER been about "protecting women" it's only ever been about hurting people. These fucking bigots have got their way and they're celebrating in the streets. Until THEY don't pass someone's idea of "woman enough" Because it'll happen, of course it will happen
Everyone knows this, especially the people making this argument. For "people of faith," I've never seen right wing fucks ever argue any position in good faith.
"Why would a rapist go through the effort to transition in order to 'covertly' enter women's bathrooms to commit sex crimes when culture generally treats rapists better than trans women?"
DrSchlepenstein
UK...tell Trump to go fuck himself in the loudest way possible.
JackingMeHoff
Say NO or Fuck You to extortion.
junkgoof
My Canadian company now sends messages that all people are people but not in the US, because we want contracts there.
sirbartonslady
Dude wants to dictate the entire fuckin world at this point. Thinks he's holding all the cards when he's holding goddamned UNO cards in a texas hold'em.
ToSisPoS
Lol. Is that the picture he chose as his best one?
drateRAsuoY
Our government party is Spineless, seriously they are the biggest sacks of shizzle.
Im not surprised of any headline from UK or US anymore.
As bad as trump? No
But Kier and friends have a different brand of evil.
quade
Well, they've already started, so... :(
brianglass10
Stupid
yourbassist
"I just wanna be dictator for a day"
cxmpxsxd
"I like how much he cares about other countries first." Trump voters, probably
ClaudBalls
FUCK YOU
Bex316
Go fuck yourself you orange cunt. We'd be better off with a free trade agreement with Europe like we had before Brexit.
cousteau
Yeah, if only you hadn't gotten out of it because of that stupid "brexit means brexit" shit the idiots in charge back then pulled.
sids32
Piece of hateful shit
ViolentlyJaded
It's time for the rest of the world to close the door to the US. Also, I would appreciate it if everyone only used the painting of T that he hates.
Comboverman
TRUMP NEEDS A GOOD OLD FASHIONED DALLAS MOTORCADE
afatality
Dont trade with USA until its stops wanting to be fascists
JackieTreehornProductions
Waiting for all the NRA 2A gun nuts who debated for years it is about protecting us from government tyranny to step up and take care of this like they claimed they would.
staceBugTerror
Fuk off you vile orange c#nt, stay over there, get ya fukin head out. Sort ya own country out.
WowThatUsernameIsSoOriginal
trumpistan wants to rule an empire without having to pay for it. that's what the "non-tariff" trade barriers are all about.
Imadethisaccounttopost
God he looks like a cliche, disappointed, disapproving, angry racist grandpa.
PewPewDude
Of all the things to get upset about, he picks THAT?! I would have hit them for lack of speech freedoms...
ayers231
You can still say anything you want, you just get held accountable for being insufferable.
meganical
No no no, if he says this now, he can take credit for the UK changing these laws on their own if they come to a new trade deal so he can tell his cult that his deals with foreign countries are producing the results they want, even if it isn’t monetary. He’s so predictable
Noodlesocks
We have free speech and right now, we have more than the USA.
razorsharpdoubleedgedlegaldualmindblades
It's not enough to weaken the USA. The goal is to weaken the west. Anything Trump does, ask yourself if a Russian spy would it. Tell me it doesn't make sense.
GeneralPrower
Trump isn't even capable of thinking for himself anymore. Everything he does is under Putin's orders.
CleverSquirrel
In case anyone wants additional context, the laws in question are specifically hate speech laws
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/britain-trade-deal-trump-lgbt-hate-speech-b2734998.html
LucilleWhoKnowsNot
Pay wall
FuManLu
Would this be to protect Meta in the issues it's facing?
usernametakenisthestoryofmylife
Tell him to fuck himself UK!
TheWombatStrikesAgain
If only they were still part of a giant free trade zone, then they could tell him to fuck off with 500 million voices...
MyRespectableAlterEgo
We have. He keeps sending us these dumbfuck pitches and we keep saying no. He wanted us to lower our food safety standards so we could buy American beef & poultry...
We're an island made of farms, and he thought we'd change our laws so we could import inferior, dangerous produce just to make him happy.
We've been telling him to fuck off quite a bit recently actually. It's refreshing after the years the torys spent enabling him.
Mapconsuela
why does anyone even still do trade deals with the US? let them dry out, last i heard they import 50% + food, lets see the USA handle a huge food crisis, soon enough judges will get rid of trump.
TheWombatStrikesAgain
Because they're a huge market. That makes up for a lot of inconveniences and dumb shit.
xj4low
As an American, f' us up. The worse it gets then the more likely people will see the Republican party for who they are and what they do.
NOPEtimusPrime
This. Fuck us up. It’s the only thing that will get a critical mass of us to prepare for glorious battle.
InfocalypseRising
Can confirm. other than one particular brand of sweatshirt I legit don't know if I own *anything* that is actually made here.
jeejeejerrycotton
How will judges get rid of Trump? Are they going to beat him with their gavels? The filth sure as fuck isn't going to help them, seeing as how they all LOVE where this is going (right up ntil the ones that fail the paper bag test all get sent to death camps while the remainers point and laugh at them).
SDWeasel
oldiebutagoodie
What are you talking about? Judges can’t get rid of trump that’s not how that works. Also we have plenty of food grown right here within the United States borders. I would like to see nations stop trading with us though to make a shift in peoples ideas about the rest of the world and consequences of our actions when everything we use to distract ourselves is no longer available.
wiltsjunk
Congress could get rid of him (but they won't)
oldiebutagoodie
Agreed. Honestly I’m worried we won’t get rid of him after this term :/
TheOldSchoolisBack
Your info is incorrect. We are massive net exporters of food. We import lots of fruits and veggies, as do all developed nations, but the one thing you can’t do is starve us out. The US has massive amounts of farmland and ag infrastucture relative to our population. The better bet is to take away our toys.
krazy3006
Australia exported 400,000 tonnes of beef into the states last year. Seems you need some resources
MoopsyLD
Your info is also incorrect. while we do have stretches of farmland and some ag infrastructure, who is going to work all the fields and all the other stuff? we can definitely be starved but before that even happens heads WILL roll, preferrably down the steps after being freshly cut. we just haven't reached that point.
DannyDLC
" whos going to pick the cotton" MoopsyLD
TheOldSchoolisBack
Unfortunately, there will always be poor people to work the fields and the meat packing plants. The collapse of global trade, or even just the world leaving the U.S. out, will only increase that population. I hope heads roll as well, but that’s more likely to happen because we have too much food due to lack of export markets than it is from too little food.
psmith00
that's what the for-profit prisons are for. you can lease out the inmates for field work and such. it's modern day slave labour without the term slave.
EternallyIgnorant
Part of the toys is food. SUre we have a lot of farmland and while Im not knowledgeable, im sure we have certain basics covered, but if all of the random shit from all over the world I see in any grocery store in america is gone, because the prices go up 5X and only the wealthy can afford it...
TheOldSchoolisBack
If all that random shit from all over the world goes away, we won’t starve. It would suck ass (unless you’re big fan of turnips and beets all winter) but we wouldn’t starve. The concept that we are dependent on imports for 50% of our food is complete hogwash.
gypsyspot
I mean, we already have a ton of people living in food insecure situations. Like 50 million. So it's not a leap to think this will become a starvation situation when food prices significantly rise. All the stock feed corn and beans still won't be sold to the people, those farmers will still sell for animal feed in other countries. People will starve, companies will make a ton of money. Citizens United will have completed its goal of making America shittier.
EternallyIgnorant
I cant comment on that, my only point is when you were saying the best bet is to take our toys away... toys includes luxury foods and forcing most Americans to rely on Idaho potatoes, Kansas corn and Texas beef or whatever. That is taking away one of our toys, even if it wouldnt normally be categorized as a "toy".
TheOldSchoolisBack
Fair enough, although I really like potatoes.
RubberMonkeys
Isn't that literally what the UK is doing? Didn't their high court just rule that trans women aren't women and therefore don't get protections?
huffnpuff72
That's the headline and what all the bigots are carrying on about. But it's more intricate than that.
MaleProstateMilker88
Thank you all the people who kept supporting JKR and pretended it wasn't a big deal, and who felt safe to attack trans people over the matter because they just really wanted to keep giving her more money for some stupid fucking franchise. I also recommend checking out which of your favourite celebrities and politicians follow JKR in social media to get a better picture who share her viewpoint.
Chumbawhumba
Not quite. The ruling was to make a clear legal definition of what a woman is, which they said is now based on biological sex. They also stated that the law change still provides transgender protection against discrimination and that it was not their place to weigh in on those definitions in the wider public debate.
Dogstar23
And about time too.
HardcoreMango
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
No, a judge was asked to clarify what the existing Equality Act from 2010 says. It wasn't written with trans women in mind, so the definition as currently written doesn't include them. The judge isn't saying they agree with it or that that's what it should be, just that that's what the current Act says. The current Act could be updated, though, and hopefully this clarification is the impetus to do that.
moleclaw76
We’re already on our way. The gate is spreading here too sadly x https://media3.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTY1YjkxZmJleTQ2cXN2Nm9yZnU0bGlyeDhnczcxYmlva3h5cjM0ZTU5amUyanJ0bSZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/YlAzrqMPHCL8MKxMZu/giphy.mp4
superdinglebudgie
Based on the current law, meaning it can be changed
roboirishrumpelstiltskin
Hey man this is just somebody posting a fucking screen grab from Twitter or Facebook but no goddamn link for fake Internet points so you probably shouldn't ask them. Yes I ran into that headline first with a fucking citation from an actual person who contributes to this website without this bullshit crap.
meganical
Hey, let the man take credit for something he didn’t do or influence in any way, you know, like he always does with his political party because those morons always fall for it
Noodlesocks
Yes and no. The protections they already had, remains. This ruling was largely to clear up uncertainties that the law didn't yet cover. It is certainly short sighted and I don't think they have thought it all the way through. It seemed largely predicated on the belief that 'trans' are just men in women's clothing. I feel this issue will be revisited when burly, bearded trans men start using the legally mandated women's bathrooms and I can't imagine the Scottish government will be too...
Noodlesocks
happy. The UK government has already interfered and overruled previous attempts to improve gender recognition in Scotland.
inboxmefoxes
Not to worry! Sinn Féin is here to explain that *actually* the ruling *clearly* states that trans women can't be discriminated against if someone *mistakes* them for a woman and is discriminating them on the basis of incorrectly believing they are a woman. /s
madeejit
Tiocfaidh ár leithris.
DiarmuidRyan
Fucking brilliant. Math on buchaill.
NikkiHuskyMum87
Yup. Trans women are excluded from women-only spaces. Trans men are also excluded from these spaces despite fitting the ridiculous criteria.
The fucking terfs were out celebrating with champagne.
I was already terrified of using public toilets (only used twice since transitioning) and now I CAN'T. I'm going to a comedy show tomorrow night over an hour away from home. If at any point in the night need to pee I'm screwed
Thefsm
I’m so sorry. The British viewpoint on trans women makes me sick. Mumsnet was full
Of gloating old cows exclaiming how happy they were with the decision. Disgusting.
Lulabel73
I know this is not the point but use the disabled if you’re scared.
RubberMonkeys
I'm so sorry that people who aren't allowed to be themselves, cause of family/religion/community/etc., hate themselves so much that the only thing that makes them feel better is tearing down those who are their authentic selves. We're all just apes with anxiety trying to survive.
Hexidimentional
Find a tory and piss on their car, the public urination charge isnt as bad
Strategicgnomer
Just find the nearest politicians hat. 👍
InTangier
Holy shit man.. You folks need to take that loser PM out of Labour and put Corbyn back :(
HelikaformerNubisKnight9
Sorry for me being dumb but: How could anyone notice you're trans? There are non-trans women looking more manly than the most Transpersons I saw. Wouldn't it be possible to snuck in unnoticed or would this get you in big trouble? (I'm so sorry the UK bended to the Terfs!)
Frogyz
You are saying "why aren't you cool with one of your required bodily functions being illegal?"
MaleProstateMilker88
Yeah, just go and pee in peace. No one is forced to disclose that kind of information and you're allowed to say stuff like "Excuse me but I AM a biological woman, I just have (if you have any issues) a genetical/hormonal condition" and get very huffy and insulted about it. Also accusing the other person back can create enough diversion to leave the situation. There's rly no need to risk your own safety to be open about it IF anyone questions,better to look after yourself first and foremost.
onlyhalfghost
that just means you're rolling the dice...as is *any* woman who isn't feminine enough.
HelikaformerNubisKnight9
I hate this timeline. (I'm very feminin and have huge boobs. Still s.o. confused me with a guy only seeing me from behind. I think I should go into drag King and than using the ladies bathroom just to fuck with them and their bigotery. And when they protest use the form of Anasyrma to shut them up. Dear Trans sisters stay safe!)
Sayagain
Wait they may not be you, I just woke up and am not a smart man ><
Sayagain
I went into your profile looking for said huge boobs. How did you get a pet squirrel!?!!? I want two, because everyone needs a friend.
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MaleProstateMilker88
Antiscience in 2025 is really sad. Most people prefer to be intelligent and educated but you are still flaunting around your own uneducated ass like that something to be proud about.
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hildr
I hope you do use the disabled toilet too.
MaleProstateMilker88
You're not leftists, nor pro-science.
Tengenstein
I hate this. Like, just let people fucking piss please.
And lets be real, does anyone really think that if a man wanted to invade women's spaces, the're going to let the sign on the door stop them? no problems breaking laws against assault, rape, murderm but that "women's WC" sign, that's the line in the sand they won't cross? Really?
LanceSackless
“I can forgive rape and assault but i draw the line at disobeying signs”
LanceSackless
They seem to imagine that if someone simply says “ackshullay im a woman” they’ll get forgiven for assaulting people….
kerms
Also I like to remind these people that gay/bi men have been pissing next to them unknowingly for their entire lives without issue. People go to the bathroom to piss and shit and leave.
unluckyandbored
The people doing this know how absurd that is. They don't care. It's all about hate. It's all about cruelty. It's all about making trans people alienated and uncomfortable and hated by everyone so they'll either stay in the closet or jump off a bridge--the right doesn't really care which.
NikkiHuskyMum87
The exact point I've been arguing for years.
It's NEVER been about "protecting women" it's only ever been about hurting people.
These fucking bigots have got their way and they're celebrating in the streets. Until THEY don't pass someone's idea of "woman enough"
Because it'll happen, of course it will happen
billstranger
Everyone knows this, especially the people making this argument. For "people of faith," I've never seen right wing fucks ever argue any position in good faith.
Tengenstein
I haven't read the court's ruling what' the defiention of "biologically a woman? Did they make a ruling on AIS?
NikkiHuskyMum87
Their definition is anyone AFAB
IDoNotWantAnAccount
"Why would a rapist go through the effort to transition in order to 'covertly' enter women's bathrooms to commit sex crimes when culture generally treats rapists better than trans women?"
PrincessBatCat
It's the same argument against trans being pedophiles. Why go through all the effort when they can just become a priest at the local church?