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Jan 9, 2025 3:42 PM
pilomotor
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KilroyLichking
people just don't want to work anymore /s
usernametakenisthestoryofmylife
Going to school in the 60's and 70's, my teachers were a big part of my life that I respected and were real integral parts of.
TheRedBaron8
It's a kleptocasy has been for 40 years since Reagan!
ArthurT
Confirmed. Absolute bull shit.
IStoleALoafOfBread
Same applied to the nursing field
GerbilHereReportingLiveFromRichardGeresAss
I don't quite understand the 'passion driven job' part. It's a job like every other, it's just paid very unfairly by people who consider it a 'passion driven job'. Mind you - I am a certified teacher...who opted out of teaching precisely because of a lousy paycheck, passion or lack thereof had nothing to do with it. Same for 90% of my college friends who just wanted to work in that field and decided not to after experiencing the disrespect.
ErniesWidow
I am an RN (for the last 42 years) and have always enjoyed the teaching aspect. I became a teacher in the local high school's Academy of Medical Professions which prepares students to go into the healthcare field when they graduate. I have a second job working as a nurse on the weekends to make ends meet. I can honestly say that I have never worked so hard for such little money in my entire professional life. But the students are my jam!
capecoder
America hates educated people.
londonosierra2000
You can only teach the Bible.
TooSoonOldTooLateSmart
This was posted on imgur yesterday.
kittyanya
Talked with a teacher abut going into the field. "Do NOT start if you can't stay out of debt. Tenure is 2 years and they can deny."
NVGoddesscottage
No real healthcare &…. We are not out of Covid times. We lost over a million people, many more have been disabled. Many grieve. We learned a lot about illness and transmission. There is “Chronic Absenteeism” throughout the nation, & we failed to support people adequately @ shutdown so droves of teachers retired. We went back too soon in the midst of the massive teacher shortage & burned out a bunch more teachers. We are cruel to parents who keep sick kids home, truancy, CPS, for 10 sick days.
Hovencl00f
Republicans HATE public school teachers, because they are so good at organizing political campaigns. They want to replace public schools with private schools, which have no unions and where the teachers are paid a lot less with crappy benefits. The big money in private schools goes to the administrators and the people renting the classroom space.
therandombagofmeat
100% this. The administration just makes it so unpleasant these days. My wife has three years before she can retire and she is counting down the days to get the fuck out of there. Even with the promise of more money if she stays, it’s just not worth it.
sethb1978
My parents were in the same boat when they outlawed collective bargaining in teachers unions. They both retired 2and 3 years early. My dad was the most popular teacher in my high school and inspired many students and my mom taught preschool handicapped.
Userlivewire
A lot of people don’t know that school administration and teachers are set up by design to be at odds with each other.
Administration is responsible for cutting costs and reporting underperformance to the state. They have nothing to do with education and most of the time they don’t even work in the school.
Sinasohn
And the parents. And the public demonization.
My wife is in about the same boat (she has the years but isn't old enough). Once the last kid is out of college, she's done, even if she can't collect the pension yet.
CaptainFubs
I'm a teacher in a low income high school. Our funding is only going to drop more under Trump and I am incredibly worried for my profession. It is soul crushing thankless work. I love what I do but I feel this sentiment so much.
SinfulBasilisk
My sister is a teacher, and good one too. She genuinely loves her students and doesn't give a shit about the parents opinions, which if you've met any number of adults you can understand why. But it's heartbreaking that she and her husband both work full time but can barely afford to take care of their family with only two children.
QotU
The term y’all are looking for is “capital strike.” https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_strike
Synthski
My last teaching job was great up until we had to close the school. That was one of the worst experiences of my life. After that I left the classroom. I miss it everyday.
seakoos
Parents are the worst part of teaching children
Source: My mom who was a teacher for nearly forty years
robpaschal
Gotta go Admin as the worst part of teaching. Source: My mom's a retired teacher and my wife is a current teacher counting years till retirement.
ucandcantunc
Entitlement : teachers are expected to deal with the self centered shitty way people raise their kids.
America is becoming a land of no consequences, and zero social responsibility
Userlivewire
The easiest way to raise kids is to just beat them into submission. It’s wrong, and bad, and you shouldn’t do it but it’s easy. <- The way a lot of people did it 40 years ago
The second easiest way to raise kids is to give them anything they want. <- The way a lot of parents do it now
The hard way is to accept that no matter how much you love them they’re not perfect, they get in trouble, they do dumb things because they’re kids, and trust that educators know what they’re doing and back them
Cinammontoastcrunch
Both of those methods create terrible adults
CoachMcgurl
I know people who work for the school system. In order to pay employees for non federal holiday time (think xmas and summer breaks) they basically dock some of their pay to cover those days. "We pay ourselves" is the line in the flier explaining the system. So someone who's pay is 15 an hour base pay is actually making 14.10 gross pay pre tax.
Nthetwit
To be fair, you're not required to do that. I personally loved it. Meant your check was a tiny bit light, but didn't need to worry about pay during the summer.
TheOnlyPtylerdactyl
It should never have been passion-driven, either. Yes it's wonderful that people want to do it, dream of doing it, but when the "reward" of doing the job begins to be touted as a substitute for decent pay, that's when shit is no longer sustainable
Sinasohn
My oldest (about to graduate college with a MS) really wants to be a high school physics teacher (and he's really good at it). But, he's smart so he's going to make a shitton of money in private industry first.
secretagentchewbacca
Veteran teacher here. Fucking nailed it. This "do it for the kids" movement is used to justify more work and less pay
historycat
I stopped teaching 10 years ago. I loved working with the kids. Hated the parents even then. Paid for a masters.
Happy in my 2nd career, making much more. I'd never go back.
Nthetwit
What did you pivot to?
secretagentchewbacca
What do you do now? Veteran teacher here
tallroses
I left teaching 5 years ago, but even before that I started getting really vocal about the constant use of the phrase “above and beyond”. If going above and beyond is the expectation, it’s not above and beyond anymore, it’s part of the job and should be paid as such
keesterdonkey
And when the whole staff at the school where I previously taught was enraged by a ridiculous decision from higher up they had some guy from HR come and he actually said “And remember, at the end of the day we are all doing it for the kids” and man the mutiny that statement was about to start! Like fuck that! Yeah we all may feel passionately about our job, but it’s a job! And if we didn’t get paid we wouldn’t do it! I cared about my students, but not more than I cared about my quality of life.
Nthetwit
100%. I was labeled "not a team player", because I refused to participate in a talent show. It was on a Friday night at like 6 pm. I also lived 40 minutes away. Most of my colleagues were local. So, they could go home and chill
belongsinamuseum
I stopped taking any single piece of work home the very day Act 10 passed in Wisconsin. No emails, nothing. I don’t even dress up for school anymore.
taez555
It's a shame too, we could really use a more well educated populous. I can't imagine why those in power keep defunding something like this. You'd think they'd want more bright independent thinkers in our country. Otherwise people don't think for themselves, and are more susceptible to lies and propaganda. If I didn't know any better, I'd think most of this is by design.
WolvesAreTheBestPeople
Lower IQ people vote Republican.
OriginalAndWitty
2 reasons- 1: less educated people tend to vote republican(these are hard facts/statistics confirm) and 2: religious educators and schools will take over teaching(this is also already happening) We are in the first steps of total GOP evangelical control and will take decades to undo the damage, if it can be undone at all.
zerohour13360
Educated people are harder to control, just ask the tzars , monarchs and other dictators around the world. The trick is to convince people that they are “free thinkers” while they go along with everything you say (sound familiar?)
KilroyLichking
smart enough to sign the form but not smart enough to understand it
RockKickass
"Those in power" = Republicans. I've yet to see a Democrat advocate for cutting education
75townecoupe
It's by design....
reverendbonobo
johnvictor
Then when they need higher skilled workers, bam, work visas.
queefteef
SacasAMAZING
LawFiveGuy
this may be the first comment that I've ever read where I can't tell if it should have contained the "/s". I think it's the juxtaposition of "you'd think they'd want more bright independent thinkers..." followed by "otherwise... people don't think for themselves, and are more susceptible to lies..."
taez555
I was gonna add this, but I thought it was sooooooooooo over the top this case it was obvious.
KsuviKhor
I think some of the replies here might have benefitted from the inclusion of an /s tag… but if anyone didn’t recognize your comment as sarcastic then they must not be paying attention to *gestures wildly all about*
taez555
pilomotor
I'm reminded of the forest ranger at Yosemite National Park talking about how hard it is to design the perfect garbage bin to keep bears from breaking into it because "there is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists".
taez555
Ha!
Level21Magikarp
Not only money they want to teach kids not deal with parents demands.
CT1space3DX
What?!
drbwaa
It's not as crazy as it sounds at first blush. Highly politicized education means, for some districts, that every nutbag parent can make a teacher's life a living hell if they so choose. Take every stupid thing to the school board, harass the teacher by name, get them denied advancement because they're so "controversial."
Level21Magikarp
Parents wanting X to be taught and Y to be banned and Z to never be spoken.
SomeDetroitGuy
Parents' demands make teaching suck goat balls.
secretagentchewbacca
Veteran teacher here, can confirm