Oct 3, 2022 7:20 AM
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Theraininspaindrainsmainlydownthemainvein
Should say "Russia, for now"
EaNasirIsABastard
If we are negotiating what is Russia I am willing to change my perspective on Kharlingrad.
SwayzeS
Good map!
DotcoreJetkill
"ALSO NO"
RoutemasterFlash
Belarus: actually kinda Russia. Serbia: Russia's Mini-Me.
KT8819
That red dot above Poland is also NOT Russia. It belongs to Germany
Suomijuusto89
Whats is russia, did you mean mordor?
ugglorimossen
Seems like Kosovo is on the fence?
ThicclikePaulBunyan
That was in a tweet from the Canadian government.
LesPaulStewart
Made me proud to be Canadian
barfauns
Putin's a dummy. All the smart former Soviets are in Ukraine.
factotumjack
How long until we can replace that big red one with "forsaken" or "glass parking lot" or just simply "norther korea"
monikir
what's that tiny bit by the Baltic sea not Russia?
NihilisticHydrogen
Kaliningrad Oblast, Russia
haIucid
CORRECTION: The country colored in red is now East Ukraine. I annexed it this morning with my mind. I’d appreciate if y’all recognized that.
Biker222
Yes! The capital of East Ukraine is renamed from Moscow to Zelenskygrad.
HsuDoNihm
This anexation was preemptively ratified (with my mind) on the day of my birth, March 5th, 1639. Sláva Ukrayíni!
doesntmatter
Finland? Not as sure. Might be Russia.
Degarafarat
I wonder what the results are: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVv3ofeBnME
leperoutcastunclean
https://imgur.com/Tc4Itn6
4vie
It's missing a "Many Russians lies here" tag on Finland.
rakas90
I hope the result of all of this is the collapse of Russia as a country and a concept, and it splits into dozens of sovereign nations.
kuriosly
So dozens of tiny pocket dictators with nukes?
Well I mean hopefully it's not a repeat of the collapse of the Societ Union, I think everyone would rather something less oligarchy.
dobroweigh
putin probably
alfmeister6227
That’s as maybe, but you’ve not seen Putins bucket list,have you?
Tsamane
Kaliningrad Oblast should go back to the Germans
RoombaTheAssaultVacuum
It isn't Russia, it is Eastern Ukraine if Putin doesn't cease hostility immediately.
SecretAgentSuperBooger
TheWombatStrikesAgain
There is no expansion anyway, just souvereign nations making use of their right to choose their own allies. Usually because they're (1)
afraid of Russia (and with good reason). So the idea that Russia of all people should have a veto on that, is just absurd. (2)
BlackHartMTB
The Russian Naval base in Sevastopol is never mentioned. Like Ukraine joining NATO with a Russian military base was even a possibility.
It took the Russian parasites invading their host from their own leased military base to make Ukraine eligible.
TeeweeAndSmashboy
Interesting, please expand... TIA
Russia had a lease on a military base in Crimea prior to 2014. They had signed an agreement in 2010, ratified in the Ukrainian parliament.
Russia used this foothold, to stage troops to invade and annex the peninsula. Petty shady to invade your host and “little brother.”
MikeKeyser
now for everyone's favorite quiz show, "Is...It...Russia?!"
OriginalAndWitty
Belarus- "About as close to being Russia without actually being Russia."
DocNitro
RONIN - Russia Only Not In Name
FrogBotherer
Lukashenko is basically just a sock puppet operated by Putin anyway.
ReJokeStatistics
If you look carefully when Lukashenko speaks, you can see Putin's hand moving his mouth.
koitk
Red is Eastern-Ukrane
Northern details:
Dracalia
Y is Norway left out? We don’t like the Russians and share a border too…
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Molvanian
Would be nice to have them in too though since they're already flipping Russia off.
TinyLiehon
How's their application going? Been a while since I saw a map of which NATO countries approved the application
swedeonamoose
Still pretty much up to Erdogan sadly.
ElusiveThing
Yes. Sweden in particular has been too busy protecting the Kurds and giving them a platform. Small dick Erdoğan doesn't like it. Fuck him.
My opinion won't count for much, but I'm with Sweden on this and always will be.
As of yesterday evening, Hungary and Turkey are the only countries to not have ratified the applications.
Frencheeseater
Hungary with Orban is a trojan horse for Putin, unfortunately.
Yeah. Not a pretty situation at all.
mrpink83
How about Ukraine takes Kaliningrad Oblast for reparations, at the very least?
welluhwhatdoyouwantmetosay
I would like it to be emptied out, cleaned up, and made into a nature preserve.
Qualtagh
"emptied out" is genocide, ya fuckwit.
Yeah, cause deciding on borders based on a country's guilt in a war has caused so much long-term stability in the past...
Nivvi
I would divide it between Slovakia and Czech Republic to give them sea access
InTheBeginningWasTheNerd
As long as you don't ask any questions, like "Where did 437k Russians disappear to?" and "What's this about 'Zeman's decrees'?"
dreemurrcharaprince
Other countries actually aren’t feeling all that motivated to take Kaliningrad as it would mean Russians getting their citizenship
HipsterCommie
Stalin kicked out everyone and replaced then with Russians. After the cold War no one wanted it because of that so they kept it.
merelyadequategooglymoogly
You mean Occupied East Prussia?
Just Prussia. The Prussians were a Baltic people that the Germans genocided, then the Germans stole their name.
muggybonehead
Interesting. I shall have to read more
ProfessorVanDiggenSagg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussian_uprisings
friendsofsandwiches
what's the little small batch of red there thou?
secondbest
Russia!
Future war payment
Cataleast
Kaliningrad Oblast: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaliningrad_Oblast A ton of history on that piece of land. Also has the Curonian spit ->
which is an interesting geographical phenomenon: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curonian_Spit
Hirnuvahamsteri
Kalingrad, by russian logic they should give it to Germany
thankie
omuaomua
Kaliningrad
Russias little roadbump in a major war against the west, jsut tons of arms, armor and jets meant to slow down any western efforts.
Nah, apart from some old buildings there's nothing german there anymore. Populace got displaced & replaced with russians (willingly or not).
WeekendWarriorMark
Putin doesn’t care about the people. He just wants the territory formerly known as CCCP. Analogy still holds and Hirnuvahamsteri is right.
The analogy may hold, but giving Kaliningrad back to Germany is a very bad idea. We forwent all claims on it during 2+4. Taking it back now>
oldguyexlurker
Putin SAYS he wants peace talks. Peace is easy. Get your fuckin troops out of someone else's country asshole! No more conflict.
FlaccidHamster
English is a hard language to learn. Putin obviously meant piece talks not peace.
Piss talks ? Here's a specialist :
wadatahmydamie
He’s on the ground with no arms and no legs calling for a draw
It's only a flesh wound, I've had worse. come back here and I'll bite your knees off
IHopeMyKidsDontSeeThis
I believe that is what they call "a lie".
spicepoet
"None of the newly claimed regions may be part of the peace talks." which means he's lying but want to look like he's offering peace.
OmnipotentBeing
Peace, will be brought to Russian supply depots and command bunkers, one missile at a time.
AwesomeName
He doesn't want peace talks, he wants time to bring his troops into position to attack again.
thespyisdead
He wants peace alright! A little piece of Ukraine
cabalin
He wants more than Ukraine
Here's the song, performed by Mel Brooks in "To be or not to be" very funny comedy movie :
SlickWithaLimerick
Great movie, funny with a lot of heart.
DarkRedCape
He attacked, he failed, he grabbed land, now he wants peace talks so he can end the war on his terms with his stolen land before defeat.
That's why Zelensky is not willing to deal peace as long as Ukrainian territory is still occupied.
And why Trump if pushing for Ukraine to negotiate (i.e. surrender)
He's not the only one, Elon Musk as well and many others on russian payroll, or intoxicated with Kremlin propaganda. In many countries.
I know. I wouldn’t but a Tesla if you paid me. Not one penny of mine will go to the fascist Musk
Thank fuck Trump isn't still running the US. With his expected support, Putin might have already succeeded.
Exactly, like when Russia annexed Crimea when Obama was in office.
Obama did not brag about exiting NATO, neither did he compromise himself with Agent Orange :
Trump would have handed Putin Ukraine on a silver platter. Next Putin would have invaded and reannexed the remaining for USSR states. Then
10-20 years from now, we'd be fighting WWIII against a mighty new USSR. Fuck that.
monocline
WWIII maybe, but mighty USSR?
Theraininspaindrainsmainlydownthemainvein
Should say "Russia, for now"
EaNasirIsABastard
If we are negotiating what is Russia I am willing to change my perspective on Kharlingrad.
SwayzeS
Good map!
DotcoreJetkill
"ALSO NO"
RoutemasterFlash
Belarus: actually kinda Russia. Serbia: Russia's Mini-Me.
KT8819
That red dot above Poland is also NOT Russia. It belongs to Germany
Suomijuusto89
Whats is russia, did you mean mordor?
ugglorimossen
Seems like Kosovo is on the fence?
ThicclikePaulBunyan
That was in a tweet from the Canadian government.
LesPaulStewart
Made me proud to be Canadian
barfauns
Putin's a dummy. All the smart former Soviets are in Ukraine.
factotumjack
How long until we can replace that big red one with "forsaken" or "glass parking lot" or just simply "norther korea"
monikir
what's that tiny bit by the Baltic sea not Russia?
NihilisticHydrogen
Kaliningrad Oblast, Russia
haIucid
CORRECTION: The country colored in red is now East Ukraine. I annexed it this morning with my mind. I’d appreciate if y’all recognized that.
Biker222
Yes! The capital of East Ukraine is renamed from Moscow to Zelenskygrad.
HsuDoNihm
This anexation was preemptively ratified (with my mind) on the day of my birth, March 5th, 1639. Sláva Ukrayíni!
doesntmatter
Finland? Not as sure. Might be Russia.
Degarafarat
I wonder what the results are: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVv3ofeBnME
leperoutcastunclean
https://imgur.com/Tc4Itn6
4vie
It's missing a "Many Russians lies here" tag on Finland.
rakas90
I hope the result of all of this is the collapse of Russia as a country and a concept, and it splits into dozens of sovereign nations.
kuriosly
So dozens of tiny pocket dictators with nukes?
rakas90
Well I mean hopefully it's not a repeat of the collapse of the Societ Union, I think everyone would rather something less oligarchy.
dobroweigh
putin probably
alfmeister6227
That’s as maybe, but you’ve not seen Putins bucket list,have you?
Tsamane
Kaliningrad Oblast should go back to the Germans
RoombaTheAssaultVacuum
It isn't Russia, it is Eastern Ukraine if Putin doesn't cease hostility immediately.
SecretAgentSuperBooger
TheWombatStrikesAgain
There is no expansion anyway, just souvereign nations making use of their right to choose their own allies. Usually because they're (1)
TheWombatStrikesAgain
afraid of Russia (and with good reason). So the idea that Russia of all people should have a veto on that, is just absurd. (2)
BlackHartMTB
The Russian Naval base in Sevastopol is never mentioned. Like Ukraine joining NATO with a Russian military base was even a possibility.
BlackHartMTB
It took the Russian parasites invading their host from their own leased military base to make Ukraine eligible.
TeeweeAndSmashboy
Interesting, please expand... TIA
BlackHartMTB
Russia had a lease on a military base in Crimea prior to 2014. They had signed an agreement in 2010, ratified in the Ukrainian parliament.
BlackHartMTB
Russia used this foothold, to stage troops to invade and annex the peninsula. Petty shady to invade your host and “little brother.”
MikeKeyser
now for everyone's favorite quiz show, "Is...It...Russia?!"
OriginalAndWitty
Belarus- "About as close to being Russia without actually being Russia."
DocNitro
RONIN - Russia Only Not In Name
FrogBotherer
Lukashenko is basically just a sock puppet operated by Putin anyway.
ReJokeStatistics
If you look carefully when Lukashenko speaks, you can see Putin's hand moving his mouth.
koitk
Red is Eastern-Ukrane
SecretAgentSuperBooger
Northern details:
Dracalia
Y is Norway left out? We don’t like the Russians and share a border too…
[deleted]
[deleted]
Molvanian
Would be nice to have them in too though since they're already flipping Russia off.
TinyLiehon
How's their application going? Been a while since I saw a map of which NATO countries approved the application
swedeonamoose
Still pretty much up to Erdogan sadly.
ElusiveThing
Yes. Sweden in particular has been too busy protecting the Kurds and giving them a platform. Small dick Erdoğan doesn't like it. Fuck him.
ElusiveThing
My opinion won't count for much, but I'm with Sweden on this and always will be.
ElusiveThing
As of yesterday evening, Hungary and Turkey are the only countries to not have ratified the applications.
Frencheeseater
Hungary with Orban is a trojan horse for Putin, unfortunately.
ElusiveThing
Yeah. Not a pretty situation at all.
mrpink83
How about Ukraine takes Kaliningrad Oblast for reparations, at the very least?
welluhwhatdoyouwantmetosay
I would like it to be emptied out, cleaned up, and made into a nature preserve.
Qualtagh
"emptied out" is genocide, ya fuckwit.
Qualtagh
Yeah, cause deciding on borders based on a country's guilt in a war has caused so much long-term stability in the past...
Nivvi
I would divide it between Slovakia and Czech Republic to give them sea access
InTheBeginningWasTheNerd
As long as you don't ask any questions, like "Where did 437k Russians disappear to?" and "What's this about 'Zeman's decrees'?"
dreemurrcharaprince
Other countries actually aren’t feeling all that motivated to take Kaliningrad as it would mean Russians getting their citizenship
HipsterCommie
Stalin kicked out everyone and replaced then with Russians. After the cold War no one wanted it because of that so they kept it.
merelyadequategooglymoogly
You mean Occupied East Prussia?
doesntmatter
Just Prussia. The Prussians were a Baltic people that the Germans genocided, then the Germans stole their name.
muggybonehead
Interesting. I shall have to read more
ProfessorVanDiggenSagg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussian_uprisings
friendsofsandwiches
what's the little small batch of red there thou?
secondbest
Russia!
TinyLiehon
Future war payment
Cataleast
Kaliningrad Oblast: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaliningrad_Oblast A ton of history on that piece of land. Also has the Curonian spit ->
Cataleast
which is an interesting geographical phenomenon: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curonian_Spit
Hirnuvahamsteri
Kalingrad, by russian logic they should give it to Germany
friendsofsandwiches
thankie
omuaomua
Kaliningrad
swedeonamoose
Russias little roadbump in a major war against the west, jsut tons of arms, armor and jets meant to slow down any western efforts.
ProfessorVanDiggenSagg
Nah, apart from some old buildings there's nothing german there anymore. Populace got displaced & replaced with russians (willingly or not).
WeekendWarriorMark
Putin doesn’t care about the people. He just wants the territory formerly known as CCCP. Analogy still holds and Hirnuvahamsteri is right.
ProfessorVanDiggenSagg
The analogy may hold, but giving Kaliningrad back to Germany is a very bad idea. We forwent all claims on it during 2+4. Taking it back now>
ProfessorVanDiggenSagg
oldguyexlurker
Putin SAYS he wants peace talks. Peace is easy. Get your fuckin troops out of someone else's country asshole! No more conflict.
FlaccidHamster
English is a hard language to learn. Putin obviously meant piece talks not peace.
Frencheeseater
Piss talks ? Here's a specialist :
wadatahmydamie
He’s on the ground with no arms and no legs calling for a draw
MikeKeyser
It's only a flesh wound, I've had worse. come back here and I'll bite your knees off
IHopeMyKidsDontSeeThis
I believe that is what they call "a lie".
spicepoet
"None of the newly claimed regions may be part of the peace talks." which means he's lying but want to look like he's offering peace.
Frencheeseater
OmnipotentBeing
Peace, will be brought to Russian supply depots and command bunkers, one missile at a time.
Frencheeseater
AwesomeName
He doesn't want peace talks, he wants time to bring his troops into position to attack again.
SecretAgentSuperBooger
thespyisdead
He wants peace alright! A little piece of Ukraine
cabalin
He wants more than Ukraine
Frencheeseater
Here's the song, performed by Mel Brooks in "To be or not to be" very funny comedy movie :
SlickWithaLimerick
Great movie, funny with a lot of heart.
DarkRedCape
He attacked, he failed, he grabbed land, now he wants peace talks so he can end the war on his terms with his stolen land before defeat.
Frencheeseater
That's why Zelensky is not willing to deal peace as long as Ukrainian territory is still occupied.
cabalin
And why Trump if pushing for Ukraine to negotiate (i.e. surrender)
Frencheeseater
He's not the only one, Elon Musk as well and many others on russian payroll, or intoxicated with Kremlin propaganda. In many countries.
cabalin
I know. I wouldn’t but a Tesla if you paid me. Not one penny of mine will go to the fascist Musk
SecretAgentSuperBooger
Thank fuck Trump isn't still running the US. With his expected support, Putin might have already succeeded.
Frencheeseater
FlaccidHamster
Exactly, like when Russia annexed Crimea when Obama was in office.
Frencheeseater
Obama did not brag about exiting NATO, neither did he compromise himself with Agent Orange :
OmnipotentBeing
Trump would have handed Putin Ukraine on a silver platter. Next Putin would have invaded and reannexed the remaining for USSR states. Then
OmnipotentBeing
10-20 years from now, we'd be fighting WWIII against a mighty new USSR. Fuck that.
monocline
WWIII maybe, but mighty USSR?