Mar 5, 2020 6:56 AM
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Rulweylan
I wish I could play an Obsidian fallout game with other people.
thedmoninme
Funny, was just saying this to my SO. Would love for her and I to be able to play FO4 together. I will not be purchasing 76.
PhyshStycc
r/agedlikemilk
NudistGhost
What really fucked them up is the fact that they didn't get a proper QA to get the kinks out. Shipping a beta 2 weeks before didn't help.
rihani3
So you like the lore, story telling and world of Fallout and want to play it with friends? Lets remove all those things and make it pvp game
TimeAndMemeLordOfGallifrey
*Laughs in Bethesda*
Manbehindthemadness
I always wanted an MMO version of Tactics
mycleverusernameisthis
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ParanoidCarrot
note, he wants to play fallout, NOT 76, would you play skyrim or fallout, when friend controls one of your companions? ofc you would
EvilCatCreations
I still enjoy Fallout 76. You all waste so much energy on disliking the most mundane shit. Must be nice to have so little to worry about.
Roncamp
Like milk you find behind the cat.
anengineerandacat
I still do want to play Fallout and Elder Scrolls with other people but co-op not arena style PvP.
speershawks
It's a good game. People played it for 30 minutes and gave up.
YoudSwearImAVirgin
Would be nice if Subnautica could have been co-op, or hopefully a future new game by the creators will be so like that
GeneralNuclear
I have always felt that subnautica was missing something, but i am not so sure that it's co-op.
TKBold
Fallout 3 was originally supposed to have something called "Play With a Friend" back when it went by "Van Buren", before Bethesda got it.
StrictlyBull
Not an idiot your instructions just weren’t clear to Bethesda. What they heard: fuck everything up and pretend it’s working
They tried to go full DayZ and seven days to die, when they should instead have gone divinity original sin co-op or swtor.
ShiraZen
It's an awesome idea, Bethesda, as always, went about it in the worst way possible.
Well both yes and no, they have managed to hit the nail strait on the head a few times.
Inkliest
I just wanted to be able to traverse the commonwealth or Mojave with a friend and do all the stuff I was already doing.
How did they mess up that badly?
Zange0
Honestly? Game's fun so long as you don't mind base fallout 4. Buggy as fuck, questionably balanced, but that's everything on Gamebryo.
Base fallout 4 being a shallow, poorly written mess doesn't help this much. Bethesda aren't very good at Fallout.
wwilberforce
I wish I could play fallout or Skyrim the way Borderlands does multiplayer
Same but with divinity or swtor's dialogue system where the other player can join in on conversations with npcs and quest givers.
versperfox
I heard as of 2 months ago the game is really fun, I am currently awaiting for it to go on sale again to try it now.
Dragondraikk
Who'd you hear that from, Todd Howard?
My friends who actually played the game.
nafun
People wanted a fallout where they could play content with friends. Not a fallout themed open world pvp sandbox.
Can even go as far as to call it a fallout Theme park rather then a actuall fallout game.
LeSethX
I would only want to play coop with friends, no other multiplayer
alwaysupvotefuturama
I wish i could play Fallout without other people. (maybe we can still reverse this spell!)
JHawke
Granted, you now get to play fallout 76 singleplayer. All guns have been taken out because they're useless anyways.
Gogglebottle
mithiwithi
It was a nice idea, it's not the FB poster's fault Bethesda comprehensively fucked up the execution.
chevymonster
Your use of "comprehensively" is so very accurate.
GCRust
Trying to make a persistent online world run on a game engine framework over 20 years old doesn't help either.
ServantOfTheGodEmperorOfUsersub
Don’t forget rushing it by a solid two years (and cutting fallout 4’s dlcs short, I suspect)
pancreas
it is his fault, for using the monkeys paw
Sephirothdidnothingwrong
No it’s not. Isolation itself makes Fallout fun. Same as BotW and others. It makes it scarier and there’s better escapism solo.
pixwbmr
All we wanted is to play with 1 friend, run around and enjoy some good quests... Nobody asked for this shitshow!
bcarroll81
Yea coop with 3 friends would have been fine
SaphirasSexDoll
ESO started off shitty, but luckily Zenimax got that shit sorted into something enjoyable.
BadBoyBoogieBoarder
ESO is my favorite game and i pay for ESO+ but i always feel stupid for that bc the performance and lag in that game is downright awful
I've only had a few instances of serious lag, but I constantly encounter issues where my Orc won't do power swings w/her sword.
IUpvoteArt
Yeah a co-op mode would be fun in any fallout/elders scrolls game. But not forced gta style multiplayer. Just a game mode to fuck around in.
Subaruislife
Co op would be great in fallout.
Spooktergeist
Remember when games could have a multiplayer mode without having to nickel and dime you for everything youre worth?
Lagunitas707
"we were surprised that people didn't want to pvp in a fallout game" - bethesda...which shows how out of touch they are. wanted co op pve
To be fair it is mostly coop pve.
Far from it, coop doesnt have you server hopping to find resources you need, or doing a mission and someone comes to kill the mob and leaves
Etereo
Nor sure how anyone could think a fallout game in a multyplayer would work. You know nothing really changes in a multy right?
Tenee
except in co-op i get to enjoy it with family and friends. pvp is not needed unless we plan to screw around.
MoistTissue
Yes this, instead we got a game where strangers can hear me eat potato chips while I look at a terminal. I rather that be limited to friends
ThisIsSteel
I actually really enjoyed 76 for a while, but I knew what I was getting into. I expected a sandbox with very little story and interaction..
KAbNeaco
Right, I'm annoyed they lied about 76 being a fun single player experience, but I had a lot of fun with my friends as low-tier raiders
JediMasterKitFisto
I enjoyed it until they patched the infinite carry weight exploit. Then I realized I had 3000 pounds of important stuff and 500 of storage.
TheSecondPiewackit
I enjoyed it until they let you pay for infinite carry weight. Then it became pay-to-win. Defended it right up until then.
I just loved that it was one shit show after another with Bethesda. It became comical with how many mistakes they could make in a row
Well the game was great after the first update. I enjoyed playing fallout with my wife. But after the subscription... noooooope.
TheDudeanator
He said WITH other people, not AGAINST other people. He is not to blame.
True that but then they would have to let the other player join in on dialgues with the npcs like in divinty original sin.
Otherwise he would just stand there wait and watch for you to finish your dialgues all day.
ElChupaNuggra
YES this is the thing game companies fail to understand, we want these massive RPG epics that we can join and help our friends with. 1/?
Skyrim, Fallout, where you can have your completely unique builds, team work against an encampment or objective. 2/2
Borderlands, multiplayer, but only in small groups. Not 700 people trying to achieve the same objective on a single server, in a single game
Exactly, 2-4 friends teamworking towards a big end goal.
ThePerro
Plot twist — that is Todd Howard’s FB page
Ant0nyTpz5
Well he meant fallout 4 with a friend (co-op) which would be cool!
expfarrer
any survival with a coop without the pvp bs
alexstamat
It could work story wise too just have the other player pay as the spouse or one of the other frozen neighbors.
Exactly! But as a pvp not so much. It’s cool to think it would be but come on, with lag and bad collision for performance it would be a mess
pocketpython
The idea wasn't bad, but they forgot who makes it, why was anyone surprised a game that needs mods to be stable, is a disaster as an MMO
Fallout as muly makes no sense. It negates alle the strenghts of the game.
SpecialProjectY
No wonder, it's using the same engine as Skyrim, Fallout 4... But...GOOD NEWS EVERYONE! ELDER SCROLLS 6 WILL ALSO USE IT!
MrSaturday
Means the mods will be patched to it quick.
Only some leading programmers work continually from the start of the Creation Engine, some parts of it have Gamebryo code glitches, oddly.
capughe
We gonna buy it 4 times over like thirsty bitches too.
I will be waiting until the reviews roll in first.
I'll consider downloading it when Unofficial Patch hits 40th update. I wholeheartedly admit never buying Beth stuff since Morrowind.
DeadCMOSbattery
they can call the engine whatever they want, its the same mess they've been using since Morrowind
It's older, unfortunately. https://www.reddit.com/r/ElderScrolls/comments/4os0fj/clearing_misconceptions_on_netimmerse_gamebryo
ThatNoPicklePeeThatNoPumpARum
Pretty sure everyone just wanted fallout normal but with 2-4 coop.
secretdpp
This exactly. Fallout 4 plus friends
JaceArveduin
New Vegas with friends, cause we got standards here!
Typically i'd agree as I love New Vegas, but I love base building so much, that shit is my kink.
NV would only have worked with co op if they did it like divinty original sin did it, where the other player can join in on dialogues.
Also skill checked for the other player with skills they lacked.
Other wise he would just heng around and wait for the other player to finish their dialogues with the npcs all day.
ChrisMorray
It could have been good, if they just made it co-op instead of making some weird pvp-ish thing without amy human npcs. Or you know... QA...
Markamanic
This. Feel the same about TES. A 2 player co-op was all it needed.
TacticalTurban42
Co op but I’d be ok with them having pvp if it was just like a thunder dome
dylanamanhouilhan
It is fine to just make the whole place RS wilderness. But NPCs are much needed and so is actual quality
Bethesda's policy of "We'll let the modders QA/fix our games" really came back to bite them in the ass.
Worked since Daggerfall, but as the engine got more clusterfuck of numerous unorganized programmers work, it's a mine field.
Chaimgoldbergenstein
Yep. I don't think they realized how vital that was for them until they released a game that didn't really have mod support.
NotAnIroningBoard
Literally all I wanted was Co-op. I wanted to wander the wastes with a companion I could actually stand.
gamerdrew
Yup. I literally just wanted co-op Fallout.
Should have made it like Divinty original sin, where you could co op and the other player could join on dialogues.
dustinandband
They probably thought human players would replace NPCs. Everywhere you explore just feels so dull cause no NPCs to interact with.
Yeah, and now with the wastelanders patch it becomes clear that it wasn't actually a design choice, they just werem't done making the NPCs.
Oh nice. Glad they decided to work on the issue. Will be interesting to see how that turns out.
asianmilkspray
They could have just gone MMO route and it would have been much better.
Nah. We didn't want an MMO. We've seen how the elder scrolls MMO works and how they'll retcon lore just to add dragon mobs. Don't want them
to retcon anything from Fallout to justify interesting MMO content.
AlexjoneswatchingTporn
The elder scrolls online is fun imo
It is, it's just not what you'd expect from an Elder Scrolls game.
balian
Literally that's all everyone ever wanted. Co-op for both elder scrolls and fallout. But they cannot monetize that.
BOSSMOPS
But.. there is elder scrolls online. Or is it not what you want? If I wasn't so addicted to my ps4 at the moment I would play ESO more often
ESO is not bad, but its not what everyone has been looking for. Its groundwork code is for a PvPMMO. Not a story driven TES RPG game.
RebelSkull
ESO is on the PS4...
ESO is on pc too. I play it only on pc.
Ah, I gotcha. And yeah, it’s not worth grinding on both platforms. I still don’t have a cp810 and I’ve been playing for months.
Rulweylan
I wish I could play an Obsidian fallout game with other people.
thedmoninme
Funny, was just saying this to my SO. Would love for her and I to be able to play FO4 together. I will not be purchasing 76.
PhyshStycc
r/agedlikemilk
NudistGhost
What really fucked them up is the fact that they didn't get a proper QA to get the kinks out. Shipping a beta 2 weeks before didn't help.
rihani3
So you like the lore, story telling and world of Fallout and want to play it with friends? Lets remove all those things and make it pvp game
TimeAndMemeLordOfGallifrey
*Laughs in Bethesda*
Manbehindthemadness
I always wanted an MMO version of Tactics
mycleverusernameisthis
ParanoidCarrot
note, he wants to play fallout, NOT 76, would you play skyrim or fallout, when friend controls one of your companions? ofc you would
EvilCatCreations
I still enjoy Fallout 76. You all waste so much energy on disliking the most mundane shit. Must be nice to have so little to worry about.
Roncamp
Like milk you find behind the cat.
anengineerandacat
I still do want to play Fallout and Elder Scrolls with other people but co-op not arena style PvP.
speershawks
It's a good game. People played it for 30 minutes and gave up.
YoudSwearImAVirgin
Would be nice if Subnautica could have been co-op, or hopefully a future new game by the creators will be so like that
GeneralNuclear
I have always felt that subnautica was missing something, but i am not so sure that it's co-op.
TKBold
Fallout 3 was originally supposed to have something called "Play With a Friend" back when it went by "Van Buren", before Bethesda got it.
StrictlyBull
Not an idiot your instructions just weren’t clear to Bethesda. What they heard: fuck everything up and pretend it’s working
GeneralNuclear
They tried to go full DayZ and seven days to die, when they should instead have gone divinity original sin co-op or swtor.
ShiraZen
It's an awesome idea, Bethesda, as always, went about it in the worst way possible.
GeneralNuclear
Well both yes and no, they have managed to hit the nail strait on the head a few times.
Inkliest
I just wanted to be able to traverse the commonwealth or Mojave with a friend and do all the stuff I was already doing.
Inkliest
How did they mess up that badly?
Zange0
Honestly? Game's fun so long as you don't mind base fallout 4. Buggy as fuck, questionably balanced, but that's everything on Gamebryo.
Rulweylan
Base fallout 4 being a shallow, poorly written mess doesn't help this much. Bethesda aren't very good at Fallout.
wwilberforce
I wish I could play fallout or Skyrim the way Borderlands does multiplayer
GeneralNuclear
Same but with divinity or swtor's dialogue system where the other player can join in on conversations with npcs and quest givers.
versperfox
I heard as of 2 months ago the game is really fun, I am currently awaiting for it to go on sale again to try it now.
Dragondraikk
Who'd you hear that from, Todd Howard?
versperfox
My friends who actually played the game.
nafun
People wanted a fallout where they could play content with friends. Not a fallout themed open world pvp sandbox.
GeneralNuclear
Can even go as far as to call it a fallout Theme park rather then a actuall fallout game.
LeSethX
I would only want to play coop with friends, no other multiplayer
alwaysupvotefuturama
I wish i could play Fallout without other people. (maybe we can still reverse this spell!)
JHawke
Granted, you now get to play fallout 76 singleplayer. All guns have been taken out because they're useless anyways.
Gogglebottle
mithiwithi
It was a nice idea, it's not the FB poster's fault Bethesda comprehensively fucked up the execution.
chevymonster
Your use of "comprehensively" is so very accurate.
GCRust
Trying to make a persistent online world run on a game engine framework over 20 years old doesn't help either.
ServantOfTheGodEmperorOfUsersub
Don’t forget rushing it by a solid two years (and cutting fallout 4’s dlcs short, I suspect)
pancreas
it is his fault, for using the monkeys paw
Sephirothdidnothingwrong
No it’s not. Isolation itself makes Fallout fun. Same as BotW and others. It makes it scarier and there’s better escapism solo.
pixwbmr
All we wanted is to play with 1 friend, run around and enjoy some good quests... Nobody asked for this shitshow!
bcarroll81
Yea coop with 3 friends would have been fine
SaphirasSexDoll
ESO started off shitty, but luckily Zenimax got that shit sorted into something enjoyable.
BadBoyBoogieBoarder
ESO is my favorite game and i pay for ESO+ but i always feel stupid for that bc the performance and lag in that game is downright awful
SaphirasSexDoll
I've only had a few instances of serious lag, but I constantly encounter issues where my Orc won't do power swings w/her sword.
IUpvoteArt
Yeah a co-op mode would be fun in any fallout/elders scrolls game. But not forced gta style multiplayer. Just a game mode to fuck around in.
Subaruislife
Co op would be great in fallout.
Spooktergeist
Remember when games could have a multiplayer mode without having to nickel and dime you for everything youre worth?
Lagunitas707
"we were surprised that people didn't want to pvp in a fallout game" - bethesda...which shows how out of touch they are. wanted co op pve
ServantOfTheGodEmperorOfUsersub
To be fair it is mostly coop pve.
Lagunitas707
Far from it, coop doesnt have you server hopping to find resources you need, or doing a mission and someone comes to kill the mob and leaves
Etereo
Nor sure how anyone could think a fallout game in a multyplayer would work. You know nothing really changes in a multy right?
Tenee
except in co-op i get to enjoy it with family and friends. pvp is not needed unless we plan to screw around.
MoistTissue
Yes this, instead we got a game where strangers can hear me eat potato chips while I look at a terminal. I rather that be limited to friends
ThisIsSteel
I actually really enjoyed 76 for a while, but I knew what I was getting into. I expected a sandbox with very little story and interaction..
KAbNeaco
Right, I'm annoyed they lied about 76 being a fun single player experience, but I had a lot of fun with my friends as low-tier raiders
JediMasterKitFisto
I enjoyed it until they patched the infinite carry weight exploit. Then I realized I had 3000 pounds of important stuff and 500 of storage.
TheSecondPiewackit
I enjoyed it until they let you pay for infinite carry weight. Then it became pay-to-win. Defended it right up until then.
JediMasterKitFisto
I just loved that it was one shit show after another with Bethesda. It became comical with how many mistakes they could make in a row
TheSecondPiewackit
Well the game was great after the first update. I enjoyed playing fallout with my wife. But after the subscription... noooooope.
TheDudeanator
He said WITH other people, not AGAINST other people. He is not to blame.
GeneralNuclear
True that but then they would have to let the other player join in on dialgues with the npcs like in divinty original sin.
GeneralNuclear
Otherwise he would just stand there wait and watch for you to finish your dialgues all day.
ElChupaNuggra
YES this is the thing game companies fail to understand, we want these massive RPG epics that we can join and help our friends with. 1/?
ElChupaNuggra
Skyrim, Fallout, where you can have your completely unique builds, team work against an encampment or objective. 2/2
TheDudeanator
Borderlands, multiplayer, but only in small groups. Not 700 people trying to achieve the same objective on a single server, in a single game
ElChupaNuggra
Exactly, 2-4 friends teamworking towards a big end goal.
ThePerro
Plot twist — that is Todd Howard’s FB page
Ant0nyTpz5
Well he meant fallout 4 with a friend (co-op) which would be cool!
expfarrer
any survival with a coop without the pvp bs
alexstamat
It could work story wise too just have the other player pay as the spouse or one of the other frozen neighbors.
Ant0nyTpz5
Exactly! But as a pvp not so much. It’s cool to think it would be but come on, with lag and bad collision for performance it would be a mess
pocketpython
The idea wasn't bad, but they forgot who makes it, why was anyone surprised a game that needs mods to be stable, is a disaster as an MMO
Etereo
Fallout as muly makes no sense. It negates alle the strenghts of the game.
SpecialProjectY
No wonder, it's using the same engine as Skyrim, Fallout 4... But...GOOD NEWS EVERYONE! ELDER SCROLLS 6 WILL ALSO USE IT!
MrSaturday
Means the mods will be patched to it quick.
SpecialProjectY
Only some leading programmers work continually from the start of the Creation Engine, some parts of it have Gamebryo code glitches, oddly.
capughe
We gonna buy it 4 times over like thirsty bitches too.
SpecialProjectY
GeneralNuclear
I will be waiting until the reviews roll in first.
SpecialProjectY
I'll consider downloading it when Unofficial Patch hits 40th update. I wholeheartedly admit never buying Beth stuff since Morrowind.
DeadCMOSbattery
they can call the engine whatever they want, its the same mess they've been using since Morrowind
SpecialProjectY
It's older, unfortunately. https://www.reddit.com/r/ElderScrolls/comments/4os0fj/clearing_misconceptions_on_netimmerse_gamebryo
ThatNoPicklePeeThatNoPumpARum
Pretty sure everyone just wanted fallout normal but with 2-4 coop.
secretdpp
This exactly. Fallout 4 plus friends
JaceArveduin
New Vegas with friends, cause we got standards here!
secretdpp
Typically i'd agree as I love New Vegas, but I love base building so much, that shit is my kink.
GeneralNuclear
NV would only have worked with co op if they did it like divinty original sin did it, where the other player can join in on dialogues.
GeneralNuclear
Also skill checked for the other player with skills they lacked.
GeneralNuclear
Other wise he would just heng around and wait for the other player to finish their dialogues with the npcs all day.
ChrisMorray
It could have been good, if they just made it co-op instead of making some weird pvp-ish thing without amy human npcs. Or you know... QA...
Markamanic
This. Feel the same about TES. A 2 player co-op was all it needed.
TacticalTurban42
Co op but I’d be ok with them having pvp if it was just like a thunder dome
dylanamanhouilhan
It is fine to just make the whole place RS wilderness. But NPCs are much needed and so is actual quality
GCRust
Bethesda's policy of "We'll let the modders QA/fix our games" really came back to bite them in the ass.
SpecialProjectY
Worked since Daggerfall, but as the engine got more clusterfuck of numerous unorganized programmers work, it's a mine field.
Chaimgoldbergenstein
Yep. I don't think they realized how vital that was for them until they released a game that didn't really have mod support.
NotAnIroningBoard
Literally all I wanted was Co-op. I wanted to wander the wastes with a companion I could actually stand.
gamerdrew
Yup. I literally just wanted co-op Fallout.
GeneralNuclear
Should have made it like Divinty original sin, where you could co op and the other player could join on dialogues.
dustinandband
They probably thought human players would replace NPCs. Everywhere you explore just feels so dull cause no NPCs to interact with.
ChrisMorray
Yeah, and now with the wastelanders patch it becomes clear that it wasn't actually a design choice, they just werem't done making the NPCs.
dustinandband
Oh nice. Glad they decided to work on the issue. Will be interesting to see how that turns out.
asianmilkspray
They could have just gone MMO route and it would have been much better.
ChrisMorray
Nah. We didn't want an MMO. We've seen how the elder scrolls MMO works and how they'll retcon lore just to add dragon mobs. Don't want them
ChrisMorray
to retcon anything from Fallout to justify interesting MMO content.
AlexjoneswatchingTporn
The elder scrolls online is fun imo
ChrisMorray
It is, it's just not what you'd expect from an Elder Scrolls game.
balian
Literally that's all everyone ever wanted. Co-op for both elder scrolls and fallout. But they cannot monetize that.
BOSSMOPS
But.. there is elder scrolls online. Or is it not what you want? If I wasn't so addicted to my ps4 at the moment I would play ESO more often
balian
ESO is not bad, but its not what everyone has been looking for. Its groundwork code is for a PvPMMO. Not a story driven TES RPG game.
RebelSkull
ESO is on the PS4...
BOSSMOPS
ESO is on pc too. I play it only on pc.
RebelSkull
Ah, I gotcha. And yeah, it’s not worth grinding on both platforms. I still don’t have a cp810 and I’ve been playing for months.