Lmaoooooo so when I was Marine you would hear from all the guys about how hot all the Air Force women were/are. This takes the pudding I guess!!!! Because she’s got the proof lol! Legit happy for her! Don’t get me wrong, being a woman and in the military and only hearing how hot everyone else was just makes me laugh, but now it’s truly well justified lol
And will be sadly reduced to pageant winner instead of all her accomplishments and, oh by the way she also won this thing that doesn't matter because she's pretty.
Your formal job title selected by your employer doesn't change the dictionary definition of "soldier." A government calling some of its soldiers "marines" doesn't make them not soldiers any more than a convenience store calling its cashiers "team members" makes them not cashiers.
Definition 4 from Merriam Webster states, "One who shirks work," so I guess it does apply to the Air Force! (Just teasing my fellow vets/service members). But seriously, I guess that means we're all soldiers. Definition 1b says, "An enlisted man or woman," so she's also not a soldier by definition. Maybe we should drop outdated definitions and use context relevant definitions? So she's an airman, not a soldier.
Speaking as a former squid, tiny octopus loves all of his fellow service members equally. That includes the crayon-eaters, the groundpounders, the puddle pirates , and the floatiebois. hah.
Airman is a designated rank, but also a general term for anyone in the Air Force, usually in a collective sense (as in “soldiers, sailors, and airmen”).
Both. Everyone is an Airman. However, Airman as a term of address (title), is E-1 to E-4 (first four enlisted ranks). So you would address those people as airman or airman name.
No, where the fuck did I say anything about pay? Soldiers are Army, airmen are Air Force, sailors are Navy, Marines are Marines. Absolutely nothing regarding pay involved.
So the navy officers are not sailors? When I was googling before asking the question about the airmen stuff got very ambiguous, I guess it's because of nuance like this.
She's white, rich, conservative, and good looking. Exactly what history is she making by being Miss America? Technically every Miss America is making history if you put enough qualifications on it.
So many incorrect assumptions. Physicist, Air Force active duty, at Harvard Kennedy school, started her own nonprofit for pancreatic cancer. For once they pick someone with capacity and we jump on the stereotype train?
Assumptions? You can see she's white from the video. Good looking is subjective but she's the typical Miss America body type. Her dad's a physician and she's going to Harvard, she got a pilot's license at 16, they're rich. Her family is from Arkansas and she's in the Air Force so they're also conservative. Not assumptions but reasonable conjectures based on the available data.
Rich people generally do not enroll in military service with payback commitments, so that’s dubious. She’s at Harvard on an Air Force scholarship, so that’s also not a class indicator. And she started her own nonprofit to benefit public health, which is not the typical conservative move. What we can judge is that she is capable of succeeding at the Air Force academy, getting into the Harvard Kennedy School on a scholarship, and running a nonprofit for cancer outreach.
Yes, let's ignore all the evidence she's wealthy simply because she's in the military. You might want to actually look into what those payback commitments are. To quote an article about that commitment "She would attend the Harvard school as an Air Force officer, with the school essentially being a duty station in her military service". So tell tell me again how being an Air Force officer means she isn't wealthy?
This clip doesn't mention anything to indicate rich or conservative (though it's definitely possible). But either way, she's a Harvard graduate so she must have some exceptional skills
She's from Arkansas along with her family and she's Air Force. Pretty much guaranteed conservative if you've ever been their. Her father's a physician and she's going to Harvard, she's rich.
It may be true, but from the clip here that can't be surmised. I don't like dismissing people who have gone to Harvard as rich. My friend's younger sister, who is from a low income family, is at Harvard now with a full ride scholarship, very proud of her
Okay, and you didn't cite anything which is why I'm saying I can only go off the clip :) Anyway my main criticism is your assumption that she is not intelligent
LongSerpent
Soldier =/= Airman. The ARMY has soldiers.
SirHonytawk
Why anyone would be proud to be a murderer is beyond me.
sellingmysoulforupvotes
girls fucking rule
ArdentNature
Ironic
BabyEatingPanda
Lmaoooooo so when I was Marine you would hear from all the guys about how hot all the Air Force women were/are. This takes the pudding I guess!!!! Because she’s got the proof lol! Legit happy for her! Don’t get me wrong, being a woman and in the military and only hearing how hot everyone else was just makes me laugh, but now it’s truly well justified lol
VinnyVeritas
NOT a "soldier". She's an Air Force officer
whatthefuck9999999
I really doubt she was the first US soldier.
MsladyRiver
You go girl! Brains, beauty, and guts!
NeoHelios
Barracks bunny got an upgrade!
FlintNorth44
Other woman should have won. Boring blonde bimbo wins instead. Such is life...
CarpoolTunnelSyndrome
This is the kind of propaganda I can get behind!
DaMummy
angelblueeyes2000
I didn't know those pageants continued. She will be a smart, powerful woman.
frostybox
And will be sadly reduced to pageant winner instead of all her accomplishments and, oh by the way she also won this thing that doesn't matter because she's pretty.
NameChecksOut87
Why did I find her more attractive in her pilot kits than that red dress. Just a thought not need to give me weird reasons.
WarrenPeacce
Quite a few women in the air force get sexual assaults, proud group
TheWarHymn
Military in general. Big epidemic of women recruits getting raped just going to the washroom at night on bases in Iraq.
TerribleAwful
if she ever drops bombs around the world, i hope she'll... ugh... miss america
t4d3jkVillain
Droping bombs leads to world peace. Right?
ballsoutflyer
TakuanSoho
Multipass
HCBailly
JerkStoreCalling
SpikedDoggos
workinprogresss
I chuckled +1 seems not enough
Coneamahfone
So good. 10/10
pxlphile
16bitStarbuck
LauriMaijala
Frodomann1
NorrinxRadd
You deserve a +1
NotTinyPancakes
if i could give two +1 i would
ShimmerinStrider
TerribleAwful
theGrumptastic
Awfuerable
66gent
Fine use of the exculpatory “ugh”
philsnow
by grabthar's hammer....
NullResult
Got all that culp right outta there
G081
well technically Airman..In the U.S. Air Force, airman is a general term which can refer to any member of the United States Air Force
bippityboppitybuttsex
*Junior Birdman
TheSecondPiewackit
Yeah, she's not a Soldier. That's specifically, and only Army.
Daywalker27
https://youtu.be/IET1ie9km40?si=i1Vpulw66bwExh4W
witalaska4
Airwoman
bonetonelord
"Soldier" means any member of any military, regardless of whether they kill people on foot, in cars, on boats, or in airplanes.
coreydeangibson6
I guess I'll will be the Marine that comes in to address this. No the fuck it don't.
bonetonelord
Your formal job title selected by your employer doesn't change the dictionary definition of "soldier." A government calling some of its soldiers "marines" doesn't make them not soldiers any more than a convenience store calling its cashiers "team members" makes them not cashiers.
1maGoh12
Definition 4 from Merriam Webster states, "One who shirks work," so I guess it does apply to the Air Force! (Just teasing my fellow vets/service members). But seriously, I guess that means we're all soldiers. Definition 1b says, "An enlisted man or woman," so she's also not a soldier by definition. Maybe we should drop outdated definitions and use context relevant definitions? So she's an airman, not a soldier.
BustyInnocent
I find it odd that people state these things like they're 100% sure about the statement even though It just one simple Google search away
AdrianDunne
I feel let down that Space Force doesn't call them Spacemen.
SilereVitam
I am more upset they call themselves Guardians, but they don't even guard their own bases...
AdrianDunne
It's quite a lame term, I think an opportunity was missed.
SilereVitam
Amen. If they really wanted to stick with the theme, Sentinels would have been better.
TinyOctopus
Tiny octopus thinks you should just call them all Wing wipers.
Rogahar
Or Chair Force. To be fair, they do have some damn comfy chairs.
TinyOctopus
Speaking as a former squid, tiny octopus loves all of his fellow service members equally. That includes the crayon-eaters, the groundpounders, the puddle pirates , and the floatiebois. hah.
wooliebooger
Were you discharged after losing two arms?
Ambipolar
Do they stop being airmen if they are officers or are they both?
DelendusSum
Airman is a designated rank, but also a general term for anyone in the Air Force, usually in a collective sense (as in “soldiers, sailors, and airmen”).
G081
Airmen for both
leperkhaun
Both. Everyone is an Airman. However, Airman as a term of address (title), is E-1 to E-4 (first four enlisted ranks). So you would address those people as airman or airman name.
leperkhaun
So you wouldn't address a General specifically as Airman Smith. But he might say "We are all Airman, so take care of each other."
thetonestarr
No, but they stop being soldiers if they aren't in the Army
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Doompug
I dont get why you have downvotes. That joke is gold.
thetonestarr
No, where the fuck did I say anything about pay? Soldiers are Army, airmen are Air Force, sailors are Navy, Marines are Marines. Absolutely nothing regarding pay involved.
HowWasThisUsernameNotTaken
The Navy had a similar question a while back, when some officers were being weiners about being associated with the enlisted as "Sailors."
Ambipolar
So the navy officers are not sailors? When I was googling before asking the question about the airmen stuff got very ambiguous, I guess it's because of nuance like this.
HowWasThisUsernameNotTaken
It's really personal interpretation, but Navy leadership did push for an equalizing standard to refer to ALL Navy personnel as Sailors.¹
HowWasThisUsernameNotTaken
This link has a good summary of why the generalization became so controversial: https://www.goatlocker.org/resources/cpo/whosailor.htm ²
Mr21782Man
She's white, rich, conservative, and good looking. Exactly what history is she making by being Miss America? Technically every Miss America is making history if you put enough qualifications on it.
Lulabel73
pfunk81
Source?
mfunny42
So many incorrect assumptions. Physicist, Air Force active duty, at Harvard Kennedy school, started her own nonprofit for pancreatic cancer. For once they pick someone with capacity and we jump on the stereotype train?
Mr21782Man
Assumptions? You can see she's white from the video. Good looking is subjective but she's the typical Miss America body type. Her dad's a physician and she's going to Harvard, she got a pilot's license at 16, they're rich. Her family is from Arkansas and she's in the Air Force so they're also conservative. Not assumptions but reasonable conjectures based on the available data.
mfunny42
Rich people generally do not enroll in military service with payback commitments, so that’s dubious. She’s at Harvard on an Air Force scholarship, so that’s also not a class indicator. And she started her own nonprofit to benefit public health, which is not the typical conservative move. What we can judge is that she is capable of succeeding at the Air Force academy, getting into the Harvard Kennedy School on a scholarship, and running a nonprofit for cancer outreach.
Mr21782Man
Yes, let's ignore all the evidence she's wealthy simply because she's in the military. You might want to actually look into what those payback commitments are. To quote an article about that commitment "She would attend the Harvard school as an Air Force officer, with the school essentially being a duty station in her military service". So tell tell me again how being an Air Force officer means she isn't wealthy?
mfunny42
I am familiar with the details, yes.
phoenix071
This clip doesn't mention anything to indicate rich or conservative (though it's definitely possible). But either way, she's a Harvard graduate so she must have some exceptional skills
Mr21782Man
She's from Arkansas along with her family and she's Air Force. Pretty much guaranteed conservative if you've ever been their. Her father's a physician and she's going to Harvard, she's rich.
phoenix071
It may be true, but from the clip here that can't be surmised. I don't like dismissing people who have gone to Harvard as rich. My friend's younger sister, who is from a low income family, is at Harvard now with a full ride scholarship, very proud of her
Mr21782Man
I'm not going by just the clip, they have this thing called Google where you can look up information now.
phoenix071
Okay, and you didn't cite anything which is why I'm saying I can only go off the clip :) Anyway my main criticism is your assumption that she is not intelligent