It was always enjoyable watching Lleyton Hewitt play. It was good when he won, because he is Australian and it was good when he lost, because he is a knob. Nick Kyrgios is the same.
There are also a few examples of this sort of thing in snooker, where players call their own fouls if the referee misses it. One such: https://youtu.be/zFWsGc9g_ZY
I like to think that people who are engrossed in activities like this dont care whether they will gain or lose from this ruling being made, but simply are following the correct flow of the proceedings as would an unbiased observer.
I love this. The point of games is to have fun and honor mutual rulesets. If you win by cheating or can't enjoy the game without winning then what are you even doing there anymore.
I’ve heard that tennis is a sport where players are expected to ref & coach themselves pretty thoroughly and the audience is expected to not cheer for individual players.
That guy that lost the point because the opponent grounded it over the net and scored on him couldn't challenge his ruling and now it's causing a bit of controversy
The bounce was called as Out by the ref, the receiving player told his opponent to challenge the refs call; he's hesitant because if he challenges a call and the replay shows the call as Out, he loses one of his 3 challenges for the match. Because the bounce was In, he won the point.
i don't understand why BASEBALL doesn't have Challenges like this. So many bad calls in baseball. I think you get 2-3 challenges and if you're correct and it was a bad call, you get to keep the challenge to challenge another bad call. Honestly what is the problem with that? Honestly...
The rules make the game. Otherwise, you’re just fucking around. You can’t “win” if you don’t follow the rules, because you’re not actually playing the game.
While I have zero problems with someone doing this I also wouldn't really have a problem with someone not saying something. It's like umpires in baseball. Sometimes calls get missed and that's part of the game too. On the other hand I support the idea of robot umpires, soooo.. I guess I just feel like someone shouldn't have to speak up. We have the technology so why aren't we using it for every play anyway?
Most people are generally decent. The problem is that the mindless routine is so easy that actually noticing when people need help is hard. Look at what happens when there's a disaster. It's not every man for themselves and looting like in movies, it's everyone helping wherever they can.
Ch’yeah, seeing the more viral tennis videos has me thinking a lot of tennis players have 0 control of their anger. I was surprised to see Alcaraz throw his own little tantrum.
Most folks are good. I firmly believe that when a group crosses that 50/50 split the downward spiral accelerates exponentially and the system completely fails. Our world has far too many problems but as a whole we are trending in the right direction. That's why the monsters fight so hard they are losing ground and it upsets them. We cannot let the fact that we're becoming aware of more of the injustices that have always been there causes to become apathetic.
I wouldn't necessarily go as far as to say most people are good, because I feel like that takes effort, but the vast majority of people are, most of the time, generally decent.
The problem is it's so easy to get into a routine and shut off your brain that most people don't do much good unless jogged out of it. Disasters are a great example. When a disaster happens people band together, boaters haul and rescue anyone stranded, people open their homes and feed their neighbors
I'll take the fun-guy-at-parties hat and change that to: everyone is born capable of being good. "Good" is a moral construct, so no one is inherently good. If you've seen kids, you know they're both capable of good as well as great evil (by our adults' standards), so it's a bit of a leap saying that everyone is born good. But I agree with the sentiment.
Nope. I do not. When is the last time you or a random stranger did something just because it was the right thing to do? Saw a dude throw a drink on a homeless woman this morning on my way to work while he blasted country music. That is just one of the many shitty things I have seen in the last 24 hours. Didnt see a single person do a good deed in the last year.
So because you didn’t personally see all good deeds, no good deeds were done? You definitely have it the wrong way around. Most people are good, but good is boring, so it goes unnoticed and doesn’t get the spotlight. The majority of people in this world just want to live in peace, without being bothered, or bothering anyone else. Assholes get coverage because outrage causes clicks and views.
All the damn time. But I volunteer at homeless clinics and surround myself with good people and never watch TV. I see people going great lengths to do the right thing regularly. Perhaps you need to leave wherever you are
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This was during the Hopman Cup in Perth, Hewitt went on to win that game and the first set 7-5 and eventually beat Sock in straight sets, 7-5, 6-4
This point was rather important actually as you can see because Sock was ahead and could have had more leeway to potentially take the set during his opponent serve (which is usually the hardest ones to get) and there is a huge psychological effect.
Well, Hewitt was probably going to win regardless this might have gone at 30 15 or 30 30 before Hewitt would have pulled, even if he got the set.
To give you an idea the highest ATP ranking that Hewitt got was 1 and Sock was 8th though Socks was more of a double player than a Single and at the time of the match Sock was ranked 26th while Hewitt was ranked around 300, being at the end of his career but this is where experience and cool head matters. Regardless both in their own right are great.
trumpypumpyinyourrumpy
Hope they became friends
redundancy
you can tell by the look in his eyes that he has a new man crush
Iamjohn3378
Sausmaus
Thanks for sharing this. :-) Makes me smile. There are good people somewhere in the world...
echonite
Can you not challenge yourself? If not, you should be able to. A rarely used ability, but no real reason not to alow it.
horsetrank
It was always enjoyable watching Lleyton Hewitt play. It was good when he won, because he is Australian and it was good when he lost, because he is a knob. Nick Kyrgios is the same.
doctorId
True sportsmanship is wanting to win because of skill not because of a technicality.
DocWino
How could you walk away with a win knowing the ball was in?
sjhsnz
Maybe Jack Draper could get Sock on his coaching team... context: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmJfpGj2rIY
GGGenom
This just means it's still first serve, not a point for the server, right?
elliath21
If it wasn’t good, Hewitt would lose one challenge and wouldn’t be able to use it later for more important point. But fair play to his opponent.
studog2010
Umpiring is for the era before there is automated technology. People umpires suffer from peopleness; they make mistakes. Robots do not (usually).
As a competitor, I do not want to win due to a bad call.
Ricdesan
This is righteous! Well played sir
beoluves
"But nobody will know."
I will know. That's more than enough.
katolu
In all of the different sportsball I played, fair play and sportsmanship was always stressed.
ArmathyAndTheUnfinishedBusiness2
So he told him to challenge it even though it was still in?
amp99
There are also a few examples of this sort of thing in snooker, where players call their own fouls if the referee misses it. One such: https://youtu.be/zFWsGc9g_ZY
madguy50
I like to think that people who are engrossed in activities like this dont care whether they will gain or lose from this ruling being made, but simply are following the correct flow of the proceedings as would an unbiased observer.
garbuhj
"The uploader had not made this video available on your country" (usa)
SupposablyPersnickity
Here’s to not looking like a goose!
WoopDeFrickenDoo
a silly goose
HashMaster9k
annonymouse211
I love this. The point of games is to have fun and honor mutual rulesets. If you win by cheating or can't enjoy the game without winning then what are you even doing there anymore.
hashtagidiot
I’ve heard that tennis is a sport where players are expected to ref & coach themselves pretty thoroughly and the audience is expected to not cheer for individual players.
Rogahar
For some people, winning is the point. If they don't win, they failed, in their mind. They'd do well to listen to Jean Luc Picard.
GuyPilot
Jack Sock. Great player. He won Wimbledon with a Canadian lad, didn't he??
billstranger
Jack Sock? Yeah, he's Canadian. He lives under my bed.
CorgisButtsDriveMeNuts
Tennis refs are joke most of the time anyway
thatwoodguy
That guy that lost the point because the opponent grounded it over the net and scored on him couldn't challenge his ruling and now it's causing a bit of controversy
possiblyafakeaccount
What happened?
PerrinAybara564
The bounce was called as Out by the ref, the receiving player told his opponent to challenge the refs call; he's hesitant because if he challenges a call and the replay shows the call as Out, he loses one of his 3 challenges for the match. Because the bounce was In, he won the point.
FreedVentureStein
This is truly the way.
GiantFlyingLabia
I would be inclined to do the same thing, at least I hope I would. Winning isn’t really winning if it’s done outside the rule book
Frobizzle
Ethically and morally correct but historically incorrect.
zmaysonet17
For real, the whole point is to actually be better than the competitor.
BEARD3DBEANIEE
i don't understand why BASEBALL doesn't have Challenges like this. So many bad calls in baseball. I think you get 2-3 challenges and if you're correct and it was a bad call, you get to keep the challenge to challenge another bad call. Honestly what is the problem with that? Honestly...
BigFatFailureTurtle
I wouldn't be confident enough that I'd seen it right. Too much backlash if I tell them to challenge it and I'm wrong.
I agree regarding winning though. If I can't beat someone fairly on their top form, I haven't beaten them.
devolutionary
The rules make the game. Otherwise, you’re just fucking around. You can’t “win” if you don’t follow the rules, because you’re not actually playing the game.
echonite
There is literally a Bluey episode about this. Fuck its such a good show. Dealing with death, parents who are in the military, and even infertility.
jaysjunkymail11
While I have zero problems with someone doing this I also wouldn't really have a problem with someone not saying something. It's like umpires in baseball. Sometimes calls get missed and that's part of the game too. On the other hand I support the idea of robot umpires, soooo.. I guess I just feel like someone shouldn't have to speak up. We have the technology so why aren't we using it for every play anyway?
DaPastry
I feel like that last sentence has so many applications, none of which you probably intended.
thefellerwhathadthatusername
I’d just about be willing to vote for this guy for public office. That’s more integrity than most politicians show in ten lifetimes.
AlphaVirus2g
The average politician starts off with good intentions. It's not until money is thrown at them that greed sets in, and their good intentions wear off.
reineseele
Oh boy do i have some bad news to tell you about football these days. Even with video assistance. They flop by tiny contacts and pretend.1/2
reineseele
And since there was a micro contact the video assist cant even say it is a dive and no yellow card for the dude. "arghh i am huuurt so much"
BigFatFailureTurtle
The problem is that the slight contact can be enough to drastically affect play, but no ref will call it unless you fall over.
TexMexHex
Some folks are good. Most are not. This is a good one.
montyman185
Most people are generally decent. The problem is that the mindless routine is so easy that actually noticing when people need help is hard.
Look at what happens when there's a disaster. It's not every man for themselves and looting like in movies, it's everyone helping wherever they can.
Durl
Ch’yeah, seeing the more viral tennis videos has me thinking a lot of tennis players have 0 control of their anger. I was surprised to see Alcaraz throw his own little tantrum.
CocoPuppyFlyer
The great majority of people are good. Throwing a racket made the highlights because it is not the norm.
RobBobertyYT
If most were bad things would be so much worse.
Mythanris90
QuintinParry
Most folks are good. I firmly believe that when a group crosses that 50/50 split the downward spiral accelerates exponentially and the system completely fails. Our world has far too many problems but as a whole we are trending in the right direction. That's why the monsters fight so hard they are losing ground and it upsets them. We cannot let the fact that we're becoming aware of more of the injustices that have always been there causes to become apathetic.
montyman185
I wouldn't necessarily go as far as to say most people are good, because I feel like that takes effort, but the vast majority of people are, most of the time, generally decent.
The problem is it's so easy to get into a routine and shut off your brain that most people don't do much good unless jogged out of it.
Disasters are a great example. When a disaster happens people band together, boaters haul and rescue anyone stranded, people open their homes and feed their neighbors
AttackBacon
Everyone* is born good, people just get it beaten out of them.
*Yeah yeah I know there's a tiny subset that are born with no empathy or whatever, not the point.
TexMexHex
Everyone is born "good"? Ok. Good luck with that.
WhatTheFrog
I'll take the fun-guy-at-parties hat and change that to: everyone is born capable of being good. "Good" is a moral construct, so no one is inherently good. If you've seen kids, you know they're both capable of good as well as great evil (by our adults' standards), so it's a bit of a leap saying that everyone is born good. But I agree with the sentiment.
DAKP
I think you have it backwards. Most are good. But the few bad ones make SUCH a mess for the rest of us, it's the bad ones that stand out.
TexMexHex
Nope. I do not. When is the last time you or a random stranger did something just because it was the right thing to do? Saw a dude throw a drink on a homeless woman this morning on my way to work while he blasted country music. That is just one of the many shitty things I have seen in the last 24 hours. Didnt see a single person do a good deed in the last year.
DarkRedCape
So because you didn’t personally see all good deeds, no good deeds were done? You definitely have it the wrong way around. Most people are good, but good is boring, so it goes unnoticed and doesn’t get the spotlight. The majority of people in this world just want to live in peace, without being bothered, or bothering anyone else. Assholes get coverage because outrage causes clicks and views.
Idontneedrealfacts
All the damn time. But I volunteer at homeless clinics and surround myself with good people and never watch TV. I see people going great lengths to do the right thing regularly. Perhaps you need to leave wherever you are
AngurProne
I'm not going to shit on you. I'm going to tell you about my last 24. I saw a car try to pull in a parking spot. 2 carts in it. Passenger got out, moved the carts to the cart corral, I honked as he walked back and me, wife, child applauded him. He smiled and gave us a DOUBLE thumbs up. I saw a guy today convince an old lady not to send a stranger a bunch of $100 gift cards. Because her account was overdrawn amd she thought she'd be arrested. (Scam) "HELPERS" are everywhere. You should move.Ask/1
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tituslartius
Who won?
16bitStarbuck
I did. Bask in my glory.
Bunnies007
Good sportsmanship.
OneGoogleSearchAway
Faith in humanity
secondgoaround
Greg Kinnear
stoots24
The friends we made along the way?
whatthewoda
This was during the Hopman Cup in Perth, Hewitt went on to win that game and the first set 7-5 and eventually beat Sock in straight sets, 7-5, 6-4
This point was rather important actually as you can see because Sock was ahead and could have had more leeway to potentially take the set during his opponent serve (which is usually the hardest ones to get) and there is a huge psychological effect.
whatspaulplayingtoday
What a hell of a guy. Probably cost him the match, but he did it anyway. That's a winner right there.
whatthewoda
Well, Hewitt was probably going to win regardless this might have gone at 30 15 or 30 30 before Hewitt would have pulled, even if he got the set.
To give you an idea the highest ATP ranking that Hewitt got was 1 and Sock was 8th though Socks was more of a double player than a Single and at the time of the match Sock was ranked 26th while Hewitt was ranked around 300, being at the end of his career but this is where experience and cool head matters. Regardless both in their own right are great.
aGoatinaBoat
Is this common knowledge? Am I supposed to know this stuff?
RayIsPrettyOkay
Who’s next? You decide!
FabulouslyTiti
WHAT'S UP BITCHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES~!!!!
knytehawkk
that's such a spectacular stealth reference. +1 sir/madam/unspecified
williamfny
Freddie 100% won.
MoistyFart
Eeeepicrapbattlesofhistory!
madguy50
The best ones are when it just doesnt sound like that at all.
KingXizor