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Buster Keaton's the general (1926) includes the most expensive single shot in cinema history till that point and for years to come. We'll be looking at that shot in detail. In some ways this very moment in time (Friday, July 23, 1926) can be seen as the pinnacle of his career.
The movie has been restored in 4K, but for our purposes we'll be AI upscaling this shot to 8K. Why bother? Imgur can't even display 4K and even FHD will compress like potatoes. Don't worry, the reasons will become obvious later on.
Slowed the shot down using frame interpolation (Pixel motion, After Effects CC2021). Buster would be amazed. It is in 1/4 speed. Renders resulting in this shoot took 12 hours total. I also splashed some color in there, because at this point why not. Might as well go bald and bankrupt.
Now that we have this big ol' frame to work with (click to zoom), we can make the camera follow the train, or we can look at some interesting details. Look at the flowers, Lizzie.
The result may look a bit cartooney, we're limited by the technology of our time. Also note that what I'm doing is wrong. Buster Keaton's films where all about what happens inside the static frame. There are very few pans and obviously no ungodly zoom pulls. I added some vaguely fitting quick sound fx which is another big no-no.
Bonus Michael Bay edit. We have the technology.
You could say more fell to the bottom of that river that day than a very expensive 60 ton locomotive. The General with its huge production budget was nearly the last truly independent production Buster Keaton ever did and its low box office score drove him to the hands of MGM. The studio had poor understanding of the kind of creative gem they had acquired and gave him no independent control over his work. As a result, The General stands as the high water mark of Buster's career and the end of his elaborate stunts and storytelling that made him unique. The movie entered public domain in 1954, as no one cared to renew its copyright (although in all fairness, the same applies to some more successful silent movies as well). It has since become a classic of the era.
The movie cost $750,000 to make (in 1926 dollars) and the train crash represents $42,000 of that sum. You could get a brand new automobile for 300 dollars in 1926.
Here's what the place looks like now days.
This is Row River, south of Cottage Grove in Oregon. That's where the locomotive lay, till salvaged for scrap during World war 2. They say you can still see bits of the train and track at the river bed when water is low (the river was dammed for filming to appear bigger and to make bridge building easier beforehand). Apparently the exact spot is not easy to reach on foot due to vegetation. Might be a fine place for magnet fishing.
My work is done.
rocketdonkey
I won’t argue with that train at the end
PleaseRespectMyAsshole
For anyone curious, that would be (roughly) $11.1 million for the movie and $630k for the train, adjusted for inflation.
HighlandViking
Here’s the movie in full, for those interested: https://youtu.be/iHlBMKtgPOA
alexanderwilliamson2
This is one of my favourite films, and why I'm probably a train nerd. The quality here is excellent. Thank you very much for uploading.
MaadMaanMaatt
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MinistryOfSillyTalks
little up facing arrow rising from the water was on my to do list, but never materialized as it was already quite a lot of fx for a posting.
alltheLalz
I didn't know I wanted this until I saw it.
imthememe
+1 for bald and bankrupt
Souldoubt999
a soviet upvote for you!
chefsoda
I love everything about this; the respect, the history, and the silliness
MinistryOfSillyTalks
That's the fine line I tried to walk, nicely spotted.
DevByTradeAndLove
This post is proof that downvote fairies are real.
2fligh2high
What a post!
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8KIMCHEE
Can this be done with the Zapruder film?!
SomebodyThatIsntMe
Ausememe
Quality OC.
welluhwhatdoyouwantmetosay
It took about a year to make, and it was his leading lady's first and only Hollywood film. She didn't want to go through that again.
Goldmarble
I am disappointed immesurably. WHERE WAS THE GIANT, EARTHSHATTERING KABOOM AND FIREBALL?!!
MinistryOfSillyTalks
Sorry, there was quite a lot of work to be done and I ran out of... Steam. :(
Goldmarble
Still, fucking amazing work. Thank you for sharing it!
Bmxtucker
That is the best frame interpolation I’ve ever seen man
oscarmatic
"Zoom. Enhance."
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ilovebigmutts
I work in the rail industry and this is amazing. Thanks Minister.
GodDamnFinklesteinShitKid
I worked in the VFX / CGI industry, and I think this is great, too!
mossom
nice, i work in the rail repair business.
orbitn
I love your work. You are truly a hero and must never stop what you're doing. Ever.
MinistryOfSillyTalks
You're welcome :) -The Ministry
troy1984
Fascinating stuff. Thanks for the time and effort you put into this. Buster would be proud.
Vaars
This film is a masterpiece
blortuston
No, it's a train wreck.
Erollis
@MinistryOfSillyTalks Thank you for posting! This will be a nice addition to my theatre arts assignment about Buster Keaton.
MinistryOfSillyTalks
Hey thanks. My longer comment as image as it doesn't fit here: /a/CxzxW2r
LazerHawkAttack
#7
idontknowwhybutihaveahugefetishforredheads
The Micheal Bay had far too few extra explosions and different angles
MPFXXX
Never go full bald and bankrupt @op
MinistryOfSillyTalks
I know, babushkas start hitting on you.
staceyjorgenson31415
Had never noticed the pile of shit on the track to make sure that the cow-catcher dives into the bed before. +1
MinistryOfSillyTalks
Buster's character set bridge on fire in an earlier scene. I'm fairly sure they removed some track to make sure the loco would dig in.
MinistryOfSillyTalks
It's often said how Buster would've been in finacial ruin had the shot failed, but they made it sure the train would go down.
MinistryOfSillyTalks
And I'm sure they rented every extra camera for redundancy they could find.
staceyjorgenson31415
+1
Justicator
Michael Bay edit... No explosion?!... Disappointed!
MinistryOfSillyTalks
Oh darn, I forgot! Really I did, I had the effect ready and everything.
skipweasel
Your point about no panning and containing the action within the frame is interesting. I watched the 1962 Baron Munchausen yesterday and...
martinomander5
It's so nice to see an action sequence that's not done in the modern "shaky cam" style.
Ryebread91
There's another munchausen film?
skipweasel
I meant this one, though there's one from the 40s, too. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fabulous_Baron_Munchausen
skipweasel
the nature of the sets and overlaying techniques forced a similar approach - but one that works wonderfullly.
MinistryOfSillyTalks
In Buster's films, that thinking goes pretty far. Even the characters usually only notice things within the frame and follow its boundaries.
skipweasel
If you haven't seen the Munchausen, give it a go - it's a visual treat.
MinistryOfSillyTalks
I've seen it over a decade ago. Rewatching it and that's a promise.
skipweasel
You can see where Gilliam got some of his ideas from for his 1988 film.
ilovedogknots
You don’t need AI upscaling they just need a better film scanner
MinistryOfSillyTalks
Detail starts to disapear into film grain somewhere between 2K and 4K with this sample. With never film I might agree.
ilovedogknots
I thought the effective resolution of older film especially black and white was somewhere around 12K+
MinistryOfSillyTalks
Often remasters from 1920's films are done from distribution copies that are not low-gen. Original work prints are often lost or burned.
MinistryOfSillyTalks
Detail degrades every time film is copied and even the film they used on the cutting room was a copy for safety.
MinistryOfSillyTalks
Nitrate film was what they used before 1950 when safety film was invented. Whole warehouses often burned down because it's like napalm.
Rkfinecake
Awesome work! I know that's a mannequin in the locomotive. Right? Yes. Yes?
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MinistryOfSillyTalks
They seem eerily calm till the bitter end, don't they.
GloveFullaVaseline
Yeah, he would have pulled his arm inside.
belongsinamuseum
Like when the Nazi went off the cliff in that tank? For years as a kid I thought I had witnessed something awful.
darrowcd
You mean if it had been a mannequin and not a nazi right?
ThePunishersVengefulBrother
It didn't react or brace itself for a fall, plus it's wearing a bright shirt to stand out, so I say a mannequin.
Lurker4815162342
Or a bored city worker.
Rkfinecake
As a bored state worker, I too would blissfully ride to the end.
Lurker4815162342
Been there, I know...
Rkfinecake
The only thing that made me think was that Keaton did a lot of his stunts. But I followed it down and that would've been death.
ThePunishersVengefulBrother
But Keaton wasn't in the train in this shot. His character set the bridge on fire, IIRC.
MinistryOfSillyTalks
Good point. I'm fairly sure Buster was behind the cameras making sure they ran. The train drop was a sure thing, capturing it not so much.
PWBoiler
I do all my own deaths.
Gargwill
The 'arm' gives it away. Looks stuffed.
ThePunishersVengefulBrother
Right, and a real person would at least involuntarily try to shield himself from the impact.
ITLKSEZ
Noob question: Was there a guy in the cab? Or was it a dummy?
orbitn
Buster did all his own stunts, they say. And his career did go downhill from here...
kakivara
Either a dummy, or a very calm man who doesn't move his arm as his train plunges.
NeverEverWrong
Sacrificial actors were the norm back then.
CheshireCad
The amazing/horrifying thing about Buster Keaton is that we legitimately have to ask this question.
MinistryOfSillyTalks
There are two dummies in there I believe, you can sort of see a shadow behind the guy.
crimbo19
Came here looking for this answer, thanks.
MinistryOfSillyTalks
Trains are slow to stop. You could build momentum and jump out, or rig something safer.
ilovebigmutts
Trains yes. A loco stops fairly easy.