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FP edit: for those that didn't see it in the comments here's the follow up panel: https://i.imgur.com/yusOBPH.jpg
No these aren't original Watterson panels, but I don't think the creator meant to put down anyone with ADD / ADHD that's been helped by medication, more that it's often misdiagnosed in some kids that could just use better attention and help at home and school. But I don't have kids so what do I know?
SuperflyDi
I hate it! Take it away! Stop ever printing this! Calvin and Hobbes 4 ever!! X
aka184mommie
This is bullsh*t, you can be responsible and still have a sense of play and fun
StephieCreate
This. Isn't even close to how it felt on ADHD meds. If anything ive lost more of my ability to create since being taken off it years ago.
kkanne20
fortheloveofbutter
This pisses me off. Treating legit ADHD (with & without drugs) drastically improves happiness, confidence and life in some kids who suffer.
briham86
itsjustanotherday
DaKahuna81
phasmafelis
As a guy who wouldn't have finished high school without ADD meds, this is so much bullshit. Severe ADD is real and horrible and I am (1)
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deputycartman
srslysterling
Dont use peoples intellectual property for this shit. Its putting words in their mouths and not everyone is going to seek out the disclaimer
WarlocknLoad
strideo
That poor disabled man...
RootEnoch
Alright everyone! How about a nice sing song! It's a long drive back to Manchester...
MarkRavingMad
as someone with ADHD who's life has been substantially improved with meds, this is some USDA certified Grade A ignorant bullshit.
AlexanderGibson
All that adderall just taught me how to handle my fuckin drink as an adult
CustomBuiltFamilyDad
In 2012, in my children's suburban public elementary school, 80% of the children were being given medication for behavioral modification.
JarJarDrinks
Toy Story, redux
MrA007
They make schoolwork so much easier. But I will never take them again.
crochethooker
My ADHD meds help me be MORE creative because I'm not completely crushed by executive dysfunction and my thoughts being too overwhelming...
DJGnarly
I love C&H but this is manipulative and not how ADD medication works. ADD and ADHD is destructive and needs to be treated.
TheGreatHelix
This is a fake C&H and Bill Watterson's signature is photo-shopped in.
NoSleepTilBrooklyn
This is kind of shitty. Kids with ADHD don't lose their imaginations with medication, they're just able to focus. That's not a bad thing.
jambotodd
This is not how C&H ended. They're still playing in the snow, exploring that "magical world". This shit is fake
Bacheloroffarts
If we're assuming Calvin has ADHD, then medication would theoretically help with imaginal creativity as kids with ADHD typically suffer (1)
Bacheloroffarts
In this area. The increases in daydreaming in ADHD are often a form of checking out, rather than engaging with imagination. (2)
UncleBiscuits
I was going to ask if this was an actual C&H strip, but then saw Watterson's name on the last panel. I've never seen this one.
pbblaster510
It’s not his, this has been edited
dodger77
Watterson did not draw this strip.
UncleBiscuits
YOU MEAN THE INTERNET LIED TO ME?! I should have known. Watterson doesn't seem like he'd do this.
RustyRedbeard
Oof
FuriousPotatoe
Biggest oof
westcoastwasted
big fuckin oof
yaboiskinnypeen
That's the sound my heart made too..
DogLuckyLuckyDog
Yeah I agree. Capital oof
strangerthingies
i doubt anyone with adhd would relate. this is glorifying the illness
PiercingSight
I don’t think this was about adhd.
Bluestar6
Idk man, I focused and chilled out yeah, and it def helped my grades, but I felt so lifeless, I was in cheerleading and was known for 1/3
Bluestar6
Being very happy, engaging, and outright strange. I would skip down hallways and just try to spread as much weird love as I could to 2/3
Bluestar6
My peers. Then I went on the meds, and on most days it was incredibly hard to even smile. But for sure for my act together. 3/3
strangerthingies
i understand, my meds at first were way too strong and i experienced lots of side effects but its normal when you start to experience them
DiracsDelta
As a medicated ADHD person, can confirm. Nothing like this. People misunderstand and misrepresent the meds effect constantly.
CleverlyReferencedThing
It affects people in significantly different ways, also the older stuff had more widely exhibiting side effects. What's your age?
DiracsDelta
Late 20’s. Been on Ritalin, adderall, vyvanse, and a couple other. Ritalin was the worst, and gave me a motor tic.
rsmgod287
On the contrary, people with genuine illnesses wouldn’t be dissuaded by this, often meds allowing to finally enjoy things they once couldn’t
rsmgod287
Cont.)For the population that are misdiagnosed or overly medicated, this is cathartic as they can related to it from childhood or as parents
strangerthingies
taking meds isnt like losing childhood magic its more like finally recieving clarity and focus
LeonSandcastle
How?
RebelSkull
Things aren’t more fun when you’re off meds, they’re more likely to fall apart. Meds help and not hurt. This comic shows them hurting.
Dagordae
If the meds are destroying your ability to imagine and have fun, then your dosage/type is fucked up and you need to fix it. It is not a
Dagordae
Normal or desired effect. That kid with serious ADHD? They know as well as anyone how badly it fucks with them, they just can’t stop it. The
Dagordae
Medication gives them the ability to retain control of themselves. When I was a kid with ADD, there were so many things I wanted to do that
Dagordae
I just couldn’t simply. Once they got the dosage right, suddenly I could actual do them without wandering off half way through.
Taxonomyanomaly
I kinda hate this because Bill Watterson did not want his work used in any way but his. That’s why there is no official C&H merchandise.
Monkeyofdoom44
That’s selfish and douche and selfish douches don’t get their way if I can help it!
TheVenerableJudgeTaintyMcPoo
He was opposed to a cartoon, he was opposed to merchandise, but he never mentioned fan fiction. This is fine, other than the signature.
Hibbtygibitty
This whole thing ought be taken down, out of respect for the artist. Sometimes censorship is necessary.
Hibbtygibitty
Down voters don’t get it. Intellectual property rights are their livelihood.
YouSaidThereWouldBeFood
His name should at least be removed
TurboTaco92
It's better than a bumper sticker of Calvin pissing on something.
Dep1213
Absolutely hate those. L
Taxonomyanomaly
Yeah those don’t have his permission either.
DryHuskOfAMan
I have a bumper sticker that simply says "CALVIN PEEING ON THAT THING YOU LIKE"
astrangehop
I always wanted one of Calvin peeing on another Calvin, who was peeing back on the first one.
Jennnanigans
I can't believe he would have done this. I see his signature but I had like ALL his collections and I don't remember this. Hope it's fake.
TheVenerableJudgeTaintyMcPoo
Of course he didn’t do this.
oracle9999
It definitely is.
muppet
It's fake, don't worry.
Jennnanigans
Thanks!
pomax
Unless you're Bill, that's not why you hate it. You hate it because it's an unreasonably effective attempt at destroying the beauty of C&H
Taxonomyanomaly
No. I respect the man and I respect his wishes for his work. This is using Watterson’s art to push someone else’s agenda.
Camelspotting
So? No art is above parody.
Taxonomyanomaly
Also kinda yes. It’s heavy handed and antithetical to C&H’s entire being. “But that’s the point!” You might say, well I don’t care. It sucks
pomax
I do care, and it still sucks.
JWA32
Amen
itsMeliora
https://imgur.com/uaYLKjC
gadgetice
This made me feel better. OP is a bundle of sticks for not including this
kittyCookieGamer
Thank you
Appleloft
And then he made Bacon.
Kyman201
Even this is bullcrap. A better ending would have been the edit I saw where Calvin goes "Okay, done" and then they go out to play.
Trousersrolled
This isn't how ADHD medicine works for children. It does not impede imagination. Actually it helps us sort out our thoughts for make believe
RoodKontjeAapje
I don't think it's trying to convey that his imagination is being impeded, but simply that he's no longer distracted by his surroundings
sassypantselectra
Look. I understand the sentiment. But I have ADD, and taking meds lets me actually function. It's not all imagination and fun times. 1/
sassypantselectra
Losing stuff right after you had it in your hand. Feeling physically uncomfortable when you have to concentrate on a task for more than 2/
thedragontox
My favorite one is putting my water bottle in the freezer and forgetting it.
sassypantselectra
I walked out to my car the other day with a can of WD-40. I'd meant to return it to the supply closet and totally forgot I was holding it.
thedragontox
Atleast you didn't apply it twice before realising. But yeah when it comes to minor tasks like that. They mess up the most easily.
sassypantselectra
Drifting off in the middle of a conversation because something else caught my attention - and don't get me started on being made fun of. 3/
sassypantselectra
ADD meds ARE overused. No question. But for those of us who need them, they're a lifesaver.
AlfredDPrince
You're a good person. Thank you for sharing that. I don't particularly like taking my meds every day, but I know I need it.
sassypantselectra
Thanks dude. Good luck. It's not easy.
sassypantselectra
Hahahahaha. I just realized I ADD'd myself in the middle.
fortheloveofbutter
I don’t take mine everyday either- but I pay $150 a month in copays and do take it most days and am so grateful.
DiracsDelta
As a medicated ADHD kid/adult, this is not relatable. Self awareness of my loud voice and habitual interruption of others saved me socially.
PiercingSight
I don’t think this comic was about adhd. I think it’s more about hallucinations and emotional excitability.
J0HNNYTSUNAMI
Preach brother
JacenHorn
iamthisguy247
I started meds this year as an adult. I am a life long daydreamer. And I still am. I just don’t daydream as much when I should be working.
TheCrazySucculentLady
This ruined my boyfriend mentally when he was a child. He can't remember much but his Mom said he became a recluse...
DiracsDelta
Just remember: What others see isn’t what we feel. I went recluse a bit because I accepted that my behavior caused others to hate me.
TheCrazySucculentLady
This was when he was younger; Jr high age. He's better now but it does bug him when his mom asks "remember when", cause he can't.
AVeryVeryVeryVeryVeryVeryVeryLostDragon
Yeah this isn't accurate. My pills help me focus on my writing and not get distracted. I write fantasy and it doesn't inhibit me at all.
AVeryVeryVeryVeryVeryVeryVeryLostDragon
Stuff like this whole "pills are evil" nonsense is over simplifying really complicated matters.
MarkRavingMad
ADHD meds massively improved my life. i hate when people act like my illness isn't real and that addressing the symptoms is somehow wrong.
darkninja2992
I was medicated as a kid for adhd myself but it basically zombified me, little to no emotion. Stopped taking it in middle school. Now i'm >
darkninja2992
Windharp
True. But to the adults, it seems so. A colleague of mine took his child of ADHD medication, because he came asking for it so that he...
Windharp
... would not become strange again. This botjered my colleague a lot.
DiracsDelta
Oh god, now this kid I relate to. Being strange, and different for reasons you can’t understand. Years of trying to figure out why no one
DiracsDelta
could seem to like me. I would have killed to feel normal, just for a time. I’d make the opposite determination of your colleague...
Windharp
I understand you, snd I can understand his view as well. As so often, both sides are somehow valid...
causality
Bill Watterson is the poster child for survivor bias.
fortheloveofbutter
This!!!
CompletelyUniqueUsername
Disagree. His comics were consistently funny. They still are to me. Others do not hold up so well.
causality
His comics being funny has nothing to do with what I said. He's a great comic artist and writer.
CompletelyUniqueUsername
I thought the point you were making is that he is remembered as excellent, due to people only showing the few of his good works, ergo S.B.
causality
No, my point was that he encourages people to risk everything in the pursuit of impractical dreams because he succeeded though most fail.
Fauxcused
yeah the only problem is is that not all kids being given ADHD medicine really need it
DiracsDelta
Yeah, that is a problem. But I’m against any solution that makes it harder for genuine cases to get what they need.
Fauxcused
I think there is more of an issue of overpresciption than under. I am sensitive as my son does not have ADHD but ex wanted him on meds
C137MrMeeseeksLookAtMe
As a diagnosed ADHD I disagree. The “medicine” changed me, because “normal” me was broken. I hated it
DiracsDelta
I hate my reliance on it, and moment to moment Im less happy. But overall, it still helps me. The real me was a beastly inconsiderate pest.
Longbowgun
ADHD medicine (as an adult) deleted my personality.
MombertBirthstein
Even deeper than this, I hesitated to try medication for years because of the stigma shown here. How much of my real self did I miss out on?
Tyaldan
As a counter point to this, it fucked me up pretty well. on it since childhood, off in highschool, on again as adult. It made me suicidal.
Tyaldan
I didnt realize it at the time because how does a kid describe that, and to who? didnt have a therapist or shit.
Tyaldan
Looking back at my life both my suicide attempts were when i was still on daily medication in high school.
DiracsDelta
That is very sad to hear. I’m sorry. For me it was the social circumstances that case from being unmedicated that made me want to die.
DiracsDelta
I thank medication for the fact that I made friends. And I thank my friends for giving me reasons not to end my life.
esqueaks
Win win
Bluestar6
Lots of people with out ADHD interrupt people. Loud I totally feel, I had no voice control. But honestly I wasnt a fan of the meds 1/3
DiracsDelta
My problems were many and varied. Most severe all stemmed from impulse control, and the meds gave me a half second to reconsider my actions
NHLawGuy
I stopped taking meds in highschool, but from my memory the meds had no effect on my ability to imagine or play as a young child
DiracsDelta
I certainly never did. If fact, sitting down with a book became stunningly easy, and that stoked my imagination more than anything.
myr14d
From purely anecdotal evidence of me talking to people, people had some *wildly* different reactions to ADD meds.
NHLawGuy
Listen, for every anecdote you got there's someone who doesn't amount to anything without it, and the opposite
NHLawGuy
I'd love to say it isn't necessary ,or it is this cartoon, but it's not
SirReginaldVonBartlesbeid
They used to make me go 100% mentally nonstop, so I would need numerous naps a day to try and recharge.
CleverlyReferencedThing
I've had the same interactions, some people it's a miracle some people it make them a zombie
upfr0mhere
If it made them a Zombie they were probably misdiagnosed
RedRoverRedRoverSendZombiesOnOver
Absolute truth. I've got so many stories.
ElbowDeepInStudentDebt
My bro has adhd, took meds, and he lost all of his personality. It was great for my ears, hard on my heart. He is no longer on those meds.
DiracsDelta
Did he lose it, or did he have control over his personality for the first time? I had no idea how I appeared to others before meds.
Trousersrolled
Probably was on the wrong type of medicine. Or perhaps needed a nonstimulant rather than a stimulant
Longbowgun
I didn't start taking it until an adult and it deleted my personality, too.
DiracsDelta
Really? I’d be curious to hear more description.
Longbowgun
It gave me such focus that my wife had to touch me to shift my focus from watching tv. I couldn't hear her speaking. Normally not a problem.
Xeroluq
This is the reality. These other people are idealists
DiracsDelta
If you think I’m an idealist about meds, you’d be wrong. Still support them.
MombertBirthstein
Gotta say I think it is the other way. It has been an awakening experience to slowly find out that so many of my most (1/2)
MombertBirthstein
(2/2) interesting and brilliant friends were on ADHD meds the whole time. Might be more people you know on them than you might expect