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https://twitter.com/__Chimaera/status/1503423951015456770
https://twitter.com/ElieNYC/status/1499381281603440641
https://twitter.com/ElieNYC/status/1500131620250128385
https://twitter.com/ElieNYC/status/1503419005863927808
curnsington
He might be one of the most eloquent speakers I've ever heard. This is what Ben Shapiro wishes he sounded like.
Chosan1
Thats a very good point that I had never considered
SalmySwims
I like these ideas
iamjackscompletelackofcompassion
Oh I like this guy
psychopirate99
Damn I want to read this for chapter 11 alone
WeaponizedJerk
I’m getting really tired of being lumped with those assholes purely because of my skin colour :(
mikeatike
Throwing out the bits of the constitution that we don't like is literally built into the constitution. People that worship the constitution
mikeatike
are insane. Lets get the big marker out and start making edits.
AllisonChains73
Cancelling "Trash" people...one mans trash is another mans treasure. Great axiom, terrible way to tell your kid he's adopted.
QuartzPoker
The Constitution was meant to be changed over time as needed, even replaced if needed. That's why we have processes for how to do it.
tcdriver
Thomas Jefferson said a new constitution should be written for each generation because....things change
skapanda616
petresun
This. Right. Here. Good on you.
or0b0ur0s
Problem: Republicans hear this and translate it to: WE SHOULD VOTE TO RENEW SOCIAL SECURITY EVERY 5 YEARS OR IT GOES AWAY!
CleverGroom
And then they fucked around and made the most durable written constitution in history. Words matter, but actions matter more.
Danimalalias
Exactly, he was actually the force behind the senate and the filibuster to keep slavery around for as long as possible.
Dashirl
Really dislike that fuck. But that's a great point nonetheless ?
tcdriver
I totally get that
skapanda616
skypanda19
Cool username. Pandas are great
duhqueenmoki
I also hear "don't take it so seriously" when my landlord takes it seriously, my boss does, my city does, so why not me?
crossingdynasty
Rewriting the constitution once about a generation or so would actually be what the framers intended
SIGMA920
It would also lead to sudden and rapid changes, both good and bad.
DeviatedPrevert
storytaletime
I love this man.
kaoticgirl
I love this man! I've heard him on the Brian Lehrer show & he's incredible!
TheStaffmaster
To wit: The Constitution is written as to imply "the People" is a COLLECTIVE term.
TheStaffmaster
That means that, "No," Curtis "Bubba" Cousinfucker, you CAN'T have a military grade .50 cal Sniper rifle for "duck hunting.">
TheStaffmaster
>YOUR TOWN, however, can have as many guns as it wants.
IrohsTeaCup
Audible, 1 credit. Easier to read when he's reading it to me with his voice inflections etc. Gonna have a good listen to this one.
Danimalalias
I mean, we should at least have a popular vote on if we want to be ruled by the constitution. We've never done that.
BishlamekGurpgork
It doesn't really rule us; it mostly defines the ways we may NOT be ruled.
Danimalalias
It sets up the electoral college, the bicameral legislature, and the means for amending itself, so it seams like it does...
BishlamekGurpgork
Sort of yes, sort of no. You can't enforce the Constitution, only laws. The constitution sets forth what laws must provide and what they may
BishlamekGurpgork
Not dictate. It's influential, but the laws are what rule is in this sense.
OptimisticSchrodinger
Added to cart, will purchase Thursday
Hawkgirl203
Old white men in politics need to go, now, because they’re grooming young white politicians to carry on their 1950s values.
ThatOtherGirlYouKnow
I <3 that he looks like a new founding father.
NomDeImguerre
Didn't know about this guy, but he seems like my kinda dude.
DudeThatsRacist
Imma go have a listen to some more of his content.
afterdarkart
Same. I have never heard of him but that Chapter list is legit and I need to know more.
n3ckr0mantic
If we rewrote the Constitution with today's political atmosphere Ide almoat worry it would be worse ?
zHurk777
It would be impossible. Texas has an awful constitution: had a convention in the 70s, came up w a good alternative, didn't pass.
u2braindead
It wouldn't make it to conception in our current social/political atmosphere we're too divided on anything to get anything written
springelmogizmo
it would still have to be ratified by the states.
DarthVella
Counterpoint: it would need to be ratified by the states.
Cheomesh
Indeed
BishlamekGurpgork
God, of course it would be worse, but we'd never attain the supermajority required, anyway.
doctorwhoquotes
Makes me think of the Larry David NFT ad when they are in congress. “The people will have the right to vote.” “Even the stupid ones?”
mikeatike
Cruise1687
I did not know about this fellow. I like what he's selling.
Cat3508
Well, it sure isn't hairspray !!
petresun
Just be careful. Please.
Helixninja333
The guy looks like he's a portable storm cloud too. He's shooting lightning everywhere!
springelmogizmo
last tweet:
SuperfluousMeh
Ruth Bader Ginsburg even said the South African Constitution was better than ours, and it was for the reasons this man said: more inclusive.
JustplainGross
Damn I'd love to sit back and have a few drinks with that guy, be fun as hell
springelmogizmo
JustplainGross
Fuck it, she can come too. But no dancing
ameranthe
Homogenous juries are bullshit. Juries need to be comprised of a mix of different peoples, or law just becomes an echo chamber for racists.
Mairoa
It's so rigged. Where I live, they pay you about $10 a day. Lunch nearby is about $15 min. How tf are the working poor represented there?
Mairoa
I have to get out of it bc I can't live on $10/day like it's 1960. So I'm honest about my views of the justice system and they don't want me
Mairoa
If I could afford to serve (it can last weeks to months) I'd have to lie about my beliefs to get on. Yep I love cops no PTSD about them here
Mairoa
I'm from an area with some of the shittiest cops in America, who were often pedos who covered for each other. Cops aren't friends.
SIGMA920
Not really. Juries can be rigged but that has to be done, an all X jury could easily be more understanding than a mixed jury. Being
SIGMA920
homogenous doesn't equal racism in action, just statistics unless the juridiction has is majority non-white.
butthurtnevergetsbetter
Considering how many times it was amended, calling the US constitution perfect is a big stretch anyway.
sunyudai
Was literally intended to be rewritten every 20 or so years.
EyeSpyABreathtakingPerson
Do people usually do that? If it was perfect we wouldn't need a whole passel of lawyers to interpret it every five minutes.
Cheomesh
Built by a committee in response to an already prior failed attempt at governance.
TheOnePristineMonk
It's supposed to be a living document but some people have seem to have forgotten that
crossingdynasty
Now considered it was meant to be amended WAY many more times
Bryllyg
In Texas, I just voted to amend the state constitution so rodeos could run charitable raffles. There have been 507 amendments since 1867.
trapperjohnmd
It was written to be an evolving document. It’s the corrupt powers that be that aren’t cooperating.
SuperfluousMeh
The very first sentence of the preamble, "... in order to create a more perfect union..."
kurastwolf
The 2/3rd threshold was made with the assumption American politicians would never become like British ones. Massive oversight honestly
SuperfluousMeh
Can you expand on that a bit, I don't quite understand. How are American and British politicians different?
kurastwolf
They aren’t. The founders believed we’d always have enlightened statesmen voted for by enlightened landholders.
BishlamekGurpgork
Does anybody do that? Call it perfect?
kurastwolf
Conservatives treat parts of it as sacrosanct. These people are Constitutionalists, who believe the constitution should be interpreted as-is
Cheomesh
I've known a few.
BishlamekGurpgork
I feel like it's one of those opinions childish enough to be casually disregarded.
SuperfluousMeh
Conservatives do. They do not believe that it should be as the founders intended: an evolving document. They think it should stand as it is.
BishlamekGurpgork
I think that may be painting with a broad brush.
kurastwolf
Constitutionalists are overwhelmingly conservative, but you are right; not all conservatives are constitutionalists
soromon
Most countries rewrite their constitution after a Civil War. America didn't. It's about time to, before we have another.
johneventually1
Good idea.
rossimus
Understand that the ones who have the most statehouses, and therefore the say in that new Constitution, are probably not the people you want
Xyle1977
That's because the rebellion Lost.
whyisthisusernamealwaystaken
Unfortunately I don't think the Nazis are going to learn unless we beat them again. This time for good.
putcleverusernamehere
LOL. Good luck w/that. Takes a 2/3 majority of Congress or states. Right now we're at 50/50 w/the VP tiesplitting. Theres literally 0 chance
kurastwolf
I still firmly believe the CW removed the need for states to have representation equal and separate to people (remove senate, keep house)
kurastwolf
The civil war stripped pretty much every right a state may have to dictate to the fed when the fed can federalize the state forces
Xyle1977
Official languages is still a state right, amongst others. They just don't advertise their rights lest they lose them.
kilgoth1
That gap needs to fill, I agree. How it fills is anyone's guess.
pzummo
What is the most problematic part of the current one?
bonoboforscale
So funny story, the 14th amendment was kind of intended to do that by reigning in states rights but SCOTUS took a long time to embrace that
thereitis101
Are you aware of amendments?
jeffois
You didn't listen to the video did ya there, Chief?
thereitis101
I admit that I did not and will now reassess this entire post and comment.
Tesseract09
And then there's countries like England, that just don't have one at all.
GH05TY
Well, they... sort of do. But oh boy is it a mess. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_the_United_Kingdom
JohnBluehill
Canada comes by it honestly
rossimus
Understand that the ones who have the most statehouses, and therefore the say in that new Constitution, are probably not the people you want
bfreeze01
Could you imagine our current political system writing a new constitution? Middle and lower income Americans would be fuuuuuucked...
greentights
More so than we already are? It's only a matter of time before we are sent into reeducation camps and forced to breed
Barjack
Lincoln was too concerned with QUICK reintegration and let the south keep way too many of the compromises they forced into the constitution
Barjack
When it was being originally drafted. The senate is a good example.
BreakablePotato
Lincoln's plans also were a bit disrupted.
CleverGroom
The thing about Lincoln and Reconstruction is Lincoln got shot in the fucking head. It's hard to say what was lost then.
Barjack
That’s a fair point
GH05TY
Most of Lincoln's plans were immediately thrown out by Andrew Johnson. Eventually led to him being the only impeachment before Clinton.
pzummo
What is the most problematic part of the current one?
SomeDetroitGuy
The entire existence of the Senate.
Ironferrox
First past the post elections is by far the worst part as it only encourages a 2 party system where you don’t get to vote for who you want
Ironferrox
But are instead forced into a system where you are really voting for the most@likely person who will have the necessary votes to defeat the
Ironferrox
Person you like the least.
Ironferrox
As it stands that’s how elections work in the US voting for a third party candidate is Literially helping the party you like the least
7thor8thcaw
Maybe unpopular opinion, but I say let it happen. You can't win wars with flags on your truck and stickers on your bumper.
ATNomad
As much as I agree with that concept, the right has more firepower than the average democrat left and has no problem shooting innocents.
KarateCanine
America is honestly already in its death throes. You had the Beer Hall Putsch and did nothing. They'll be back. And in greater numbers.
SupermassiveZebra
There are no true winners in a war.
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deadandbloated
Interesting stat! Jefferson suggested every 19 years in a letter to... I forget whom. Problematic dude, but a prescient analysis.
GH05TY
Yeah, Jefferson was fantastic at crafting words and ideals. Actually following those ideals, or interacting with other people? Not so much.
GH05TY
Technically, we have; we just wound up making it extremely difficult to do. The current Constitution turns 30 years old in a couple months.
TheRockDude
If you're talking about amendments, pretty sure the guy distinctly distinguishes "amending" from "rewriting" in that video
CleverGroom
I'm genuinely curious what could even be ratified in 2022. Got to be less controversial than banning discrimination on the basis of sex.
pzummo
What is the most problematic part of the current one?
Richter12x2
Lack of redress of grievances against politicians, IMO. When they're corrupt, or evil, or stupid, you're stuck until next election
maddeninglemon
Only counting the current text, I'd go with the fact that 'neither slavery nor involuntary servitude...' is followed by the word 'except'
maddeninglemon
Counting the stuff that's still there but has been amended, I'd go with 'three fifths of all other persons'
bingotown
For starters, there’s that ambiguous comma in the second amendment.
BishlamekGurpgork
I feel like if 2A were rewritten today it'd be government issue-firearms and mandatory range time for all students in high school.
mikeatike
The 2A people are not for everyone having guns, just, you know, a certian kind of person...
BishlamekGurpgork
Oh, you mean the white people.
Barjack
significant portion of gun deaths are due to accidents. Training teens the do’s and don’t of guns might actually reduce gun deaths greatly
BishlamekGurpgork
Two ways to see that. One, yes, training is good, if you're going to have a gun. But two, a lot of youths high on hormones having access to
doublejubean
I would say that insufficient legal assistance for the accused and minimal judicial appointment rules would be a place to start.
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
Frankly, everyone should just get the same legal assistance. Appointed lawyers for everyone. It's the only fair way.
doublejubean
So what give all qualified lawyers a minimum salary and require participation in a public defender lottery system?
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
Basically they'd all start the same, yeah. They should be able to get raises and promotions based on experience, just like in any other /1
pzummo
That can be easily handled with an Amendment. What’s the most problematic that makes it justify starting over?
doublejubean
‘Easy’ being a very relative term. Compared to Civil War? Sure. Compared to any other legal process in these United States? No. An amendment
doublejubean
/ is basically a ‘Super’ Law. You have to pass a bill through The Senate, the house, the president, then 37 states. Possible but Not easy