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Isi151e
A third of your waking day? Ha, those are rookie numbers. Gotta pump those numbers up
IHateYouMyselfAndEveryone
Half* of your waking day
LookAtItLookAtIt
Congratulations?
42labor
Organize
Halobreaker
This... this hits right close to home.. and it really hurts
notMyShadow
Ouch
TheLastDigitOfPi
unsolicitedadvice
What I read in this post is less about capitalism and more about mental illness. Please seek some help w someone whose fee is income based.
natus
People shouldn't have to work, they should want to. Capitalism can go fuck itself.
eromitlab
The more Trumpism I have to live through, the farther left I go. Next stop, communism!
Imafishwithlegs
Wait till you find out this all started long before trump was elected and that this goes well beyond who the current president is
tupactopus
i joined the army, got out after 5 because it wasn't for me, but it gave me the skills i needed to make 95k a year with benefits as well
sully88386
I missed that formation
tupactopus
there are tons of resources available if nothing has been opening up, vet tech is a new program with insane benefits
IRMacGuyver
1/3rd of your waking day? You're awake 24 hours a day? How long do you sleep for after that?
TheFastpaws
I live this pain every day.
ilikestuffsomeofthetime
HAH 2 days off!!!! Nah but seriously, i fuckin wish i got 2 days off every week...
YouExpectedAUsernameButItWasMeDio
Burn the whole place down, woot
gonergoner22
A whole lot of people in the comments are too beaten and broken to even recognize how much they're abused in this system. Tragic.
mmmklCosmosRunner
Tragic.
Kodaxmax
it kinda seems like thats exactly what most comments are saying
snoogns
Don't you mean half of your waking day?
Py0tr77
Cheer up, after only 45 years of doing that you can retire for at least a few years before they ship you of to a place to die.
mmmklCosmosRunner
TRY TO SAY THAT FOR US BRAZILIAN PEOPLE WHO CAN NOT AND WILL NOT RETIRE NEVER EVER thanks to Bolsonaro's legislative reforms...
Kodaxmax
you guys get to retire?
Thephedora
Unregulated capitalism.
MasterofNoneya
I got a job during pandemic, super happy so I could finally securely move in with GF in another state. Cut to 3 months later and every night
MasterofNoneya
I get home at 6, eat by 7 and have lately been going to bed by 830. Theres something about turning it all off off in sleep that helps.
MasterofNoneya
History of depression doesnt help but also genuinely drained at times with typical 40hrs a week
cassperd
Texan here. They don't give us a lunch break where I work (8 hours) they usually give us 2 days off but they don't have to.
cassperd
A standing job. You're not allowed to sit unless you're using the bathroom.
MotherFukaJonez
Learn a trade. Seriously
DownSouthHipppie
I just want to know how this guy is awake for 24 hours each day
Meilkor
Chronic depression he can't afford medication for because you have to work for 6 months before insurance starts.
DownSouthHipppie
Damn it’s only 90 days where I work
DisgruntledFerret
You don't have to be awake to be in a constant state of existential dread.
Azathought
"Waking day" = part of the day you are awake
IRMacGuyver
He didn't say 24 hours each day. Maybe he does like me. Runs on a 32 hour day and just doesn't bother to try syncing up to the 24 hr day.
jimmityjammity
The world would be a better place on 32/36 hour days. Did it for a couple of years.
Clarkimus360
How does that work? Just don’t sleep?
IRMacGuyver
If you get a job with multiple shifts you can switch which shift you work through out the week to stay in sync with your sleep habits.
jimmityjammity
10 hours sleep and a couple of tiny naps. Feel really rested. Can mesh either 32/36 with most work schedules.
DownSouthHipppie
He didn’t say he was a coke dealer
ASOMOH
He said he works 1/3 of the day (8 hours) and he has to choose between resting or doing things and enjoying life for the 2nd 8 hours. -
ASOMOH
I work in a warehouse for 10:30 hours. My commute to and from is 1 hr 20 min. 11+ hours a day for work. I need at least 6 hrs sleep.-
ASOMOH
11 hours for work + 6 hours of sleep = 17 hours total. 24 hours a day - 17=7. 7 hours to do everything you need to do and then relax.
MildlyConcernedTV
I tried to do a job, they said it would be 12 hour shifts Tuesday, Friday, and Saturday off. I've done it before. Started and it turned (1)
MildlyConcernedTV
Out that it was a "work till your done" job that even busting nonstop would RARELY get 15 hours a shift (usually 16-18 hours) of non (2)
MildlyConcernedTV
Stop back breaking work and only 1 30min break. Days off were Tuesday and Sunday. By my 3rd day I literally couldn't physically walk(3)
MildlyConcernedTV
Because I spilled boiling water on my shoes and they didn't give me proper PPE. It is the only job I've ever walked away from (4)
MildlyConcernedTV
And I have had family literally call me names and rag on me because I couldn't do it. I feel ashamed because of it and I hate myself for (5)
theyar
Wtf kind of entitled lazy ass bullshit is this? You seriously think you could do nothing all day if it weren't for capitalism?
YouExpectedAUsernameButItWasMeDio
You dumb bastard, read the post.
theyar
I did.
hidingbehindthisusername
Are you ok?
GoldFrieza
Huh? This post is literally about people who have jobs. Read the picture
theyar
I did. He blames capitalism for the fact the he doesn't get a home for free and has to work and contribute to society.
theyar
He's fucking sarcastically condescending about the fact that he has to work for a living. JFC.
GoldFrieza
Nothing about wanting free stuff was written. Read the picture. JFC. It's a post about stagnating wages for ppl who work.
theyar
That's not what it says. It complains about getting a job, because now o have to attend 8 hours, and it's not fair that this should be 1/?
CorneliusCornwall
This comment section is a dumpster fire inside a litter box
RockNTRob
How did you fit a dumpster in a litter box?
CorneliusCornwall
A wizard did it
Cortezdelanoche
Rurouni182
LoveTheShiningWire
HotSpoon
Time to scroll straight to the bottom!
Wozzup
People don't realise how much our world is fundamentally contested. One group of people absolutely convinced capitalism is destroying the...
Wozzup
Planet, and another that views any form of economic socialism as a dangerous enemy which could very well destroy everything we know and love
Wozzup
These views cannot be rectified. Or at the very least, I don't see how they can be.
CorneliusCornwall
I just want to shoot guns and go to the doctor without worrying if I can afford it. That's what I want. A little bit of both.
MrSaturday
Same. Where is the group for that?
finninthejakesuit
It’s the fringes that dictate the debate and can’t / won’t communicate.
Wozzup
Disagree. These are real issues. Capitalism is actually destroying the planet, the only fringe are those denying that. I say as a leftist...
finninthejakesuit
A single transferable vote system as is used in Australia would benefit the US https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_transferable_vote
Kodaxmax
as an australian, it doesn't make too much difference, we still basically have a two party system
Wozzup
Yeah nah mate. As an Australian, the core ethical question of capitalism can't be solved by election reform alone. I mean it's OBVIOUSLY ...
Dearmeat
24/hrs in a day, 8 to work 8 to sleep 16hrs, that leaves 8 hours for whatever you, 7 if you take off travel time, you have 6hrs to do what
AnOceanOfStars
Travels, chores, various things to do... in the end, getting 2 hours per day to squeeze your entire actual living in, is already a miracle.
jswhat
Plus an hour getting ready for work, an hour decompressing after work, give or take an hour commute, an hour making dinner...
Dearmeat
You want
riceisdelicious
Not if you get a job as a matress tester, ohh, you need me to work overtime? Yeah, I can sleep in a bit.
audioCandyMonster
Like laundry, vacuuming, buying inexpensive food to make, cooking food, cleaning dishes, getting gas, shaving for work, but ya 8 hours
WhaleArms
One of the biggest advantages of the rich is the time gained by paying to have things done for you (cooking cleaning errands)
Iloveblackcats217
Opportunity cost
NeedAnUmbrella
Lucky lucky lucky me..!
tizkit
well 30 mins to an hour is also the unpaid lunch break, and then you gotta cook and eat food there is another hour or so
badthaught
That 6 hours is usually partially taken up by stuff I NEED to do, not what I want to do. Groceries, laundry, miscellaneous chores. 1/2
badthaught
I estimate I have about 3 - 3.5 hours on average to myself per day where I can do what I want. Not alot for memes, games, or enrichment. 2/2
papyel
Wait... you guys get to have time to game
badthaught
But thats what keeps you stuck in this system. And any way out offered requires you to sacrifice that and more to maybe get out of this rut.
jeeps005
yup, ask yourself if your are willing to build your own house, hunt and grow your own food, find fresh water..1/2
jeeps005
i personally cant live without modern plumbing, electricity, internet, medicine, groceries. Im happy to work 8h a day for all that.
StrangeBedfellow
i live in germany. in my city, a one room flat costs about 500 euros per month. min wage is ca. 950 euros after tax and insurance
rossonerinho
https://imgur.com/EnvYa0r.gif
StarmineRendezvous
This is the song the world is playing right now and it's fucking miserable.
MorfoPorky
Go to Slovakia - 500E per month and min is 623E ....real shit baby
bohjeenie
Living in the US, that actually sounded nice. A studio anywhere near commutable distance to work here is 1200$+
bohjeenie
When I was looking for basements in house shares, they were running 800-1000$ a month. 40 hours a week min wage here wouldn’t leave anything
bohjeenie
2 jobs or longer hours minimum requirement.
slack3rdav3
was making about that as an intern in Germany. Was enough for food and that was it. Traveled off credit cards/savings.
RafntheTiger
Its like you say
isilzha
1 bedroom apt in my area (which is a small town with a lot of rural) is $1250/mo. Min wage for full time month is ~$2016 gross
isilzha
Avg monthly cost per person for health insurance is ~$347.78
memasaur
500 is cheap! Where in Germany do you live?
StrangeBedfellow
cologne
crazyvoice
Min. Wage is about 1500 Euro brutto (pre tax), after taxes and social securities you should have around 1100 euro. I don't argue that you /
crazyvoice
Are struggling, life can be hard, but your numbers don't add up. Either way, you may be entitled for social benefits like Wohngeld or /
crazyvoice
Aufstockende Grundsicherung. Don't be afraid, go to your Rathaus and get informations what your rights are. If you have questions feel free
Wishbone10
Isnt school like 300 euros a year...ours is 60k a year
StrangeBedfellow
school is basically free, but where do you live and what do you eat?
aDrugAddictThatIsntDeadInside
I read all your threads and you made a damn good statement. We are born fucked my friend.
parasP6rsas
Huh, I thought it was a couple of times higher than that in Germany.
xEFGx
It is. The math on the hourly pay doesnt add up. Also there will be a raise next year from 9 to 10 per hour. I think OP got screwed?
StrangeBedfellow
its 9 euros per hour dude, you realise you have to pay taxes and benefits in steuerklasse 1 and its not a small amount
VexionRoe
I'm confused 9*40*4 is 1,200 Are all of your months 28 days?
crazyvoice
After taxes you should have around 1100 euro. Do you Subtract other things like fix costs?
NuggetsForKitty
Have you tried making your own coffee at home instead of going to Starbucks everyday?
Crispyock
And stop eating Avocado toast!
DanielArcaris
Also, why do you have a cell phone?
NuggetsForKitty
Also buy a gun and move to the inner city since apartments are only $300/month there. You don't need safety for your family.
skincancerisfun
And that refrigerator. Can't claim your hard done by when you have a magic cold box all to yourself
slack3rdav3
Cell service in germany is actually reasonable. Lucky bastards.
Zyrixion
Better than around here. Minimum wage is $2400/mo, and studio apartments are about $1700+/mo, 1bed apartments are about $2.2k+.
Zyrixion
Best part is that $2400/mo is gross income, before taxes and health insurance, so drop that number by about 25-33%
VexionRoe
I thought cost of living raised minimum wage in cali? thats not the case?
VexionRoe
7.5 x 40 = 300. 300x4 weeks or 5 is 1200 or 1500 how do you get to 2400?
VexionRoe
You get paid 15 minimum wage?
StrangeBedfellow
that means i go to work for 45 hours a week, 2.5 hours of which are unpaid because theyre 'breaks'. travelling to and from work for
StrangeBedfellow
another solid 5 hours a week and paying out my nose for public transport. then having 450 euro to spend on utilities and monthly expenses
mycatisspawnofsatan
Get a motorcycle! They get like 75mph and are an awesome stress reliever
shepahrdjhon
wouldn't he freeze on those in Germany? In Michigan I only see motorcycles during summer.
StrangeBedfellow
i have a fast car, i used to love it before i lost my last job. now everything seems dull
rantmachine
And if you ride increasingly aggressively as you get older, no need to worry about the total lack of retirement prospects or pension savings
StrangeBedfellow
such as food and plain clothes for my job. with good money management i have roughly 50 euros a month left to save up. why should i work?
acuteavocado7
in my town minimum wage is about $1100 a month after taxes and a one bed one bath apartment in a shitty place is $1000/month before utilitie
StrangeBedfellow
prison is free, the psychiatric hospital is free. living in either or those institiutions is more comfortable than in this shithole flat
StrangeBedfellow
i want to go to university to end up with a better job. the government pays me 360 euros a month. a student room costs about 300
JaydeRaven
Do you get free healthcare? You described the US but we have no universal healthcare.
LurkingAtTheOffice
Actually where I live it's worse. 350 a week after tax, rent for a studio is 950. So 350 for everything else a month. Oh, doesn't qualify
ph34rocious
Toss in the fact that if you get sick you're either bankrupt or dead, and you have America.
Enginerrrrrrrrr
Minimum wage in the USA won't let you live with money leftover. You will have to decide between food and housing.
ToxynceScares
Hartz 4 doesn't sound so bad now :')
StrangeBedfellow
sure doesnt...
Lysergian
It's a complicated system that has been established to remove the need to hunt and gather or farm for your food. While clearly the rich have
IDontKnowWhatToDoAnymoreAndImTired
It's not like that's the only alternative. Since 1980, productivity has increased at double the rate of compensation. A 32 or 20 hour week..
IDontKnowWhatToDoAnymoreAndImTired
would get more "work" done than the avg full time job in 1979. Instead people are worked harder for less money than any time since 1940.
IDontKnowWhatToDoAnymoreAndImTired
https://www.epi.org/productivity-pay-gap/
Lysergian
Exploited the system to unfairly take the majority of the benefit for themselves. The alternative system of sustenance living in the wild
xKaraKx
Thats how the system was designed. Capital begets capital... the alternative isnt primitive hunter gatherer society
3crowsBeast
No, the alternative is centralized market prices, tyranny, starvation, and death.
xKaraKx
... you have that right now... socialism would prevent this
3crowsBeast
Not even close, by several orders of magnitude. Get some perspective.
Lysergian
Doesn't allow for the advancement of social accomplishments, or basically any technological amenities if sustenance living was widely used.
xKaraKx
Capitalism doesnt create advancements either...
Lysergian
People go to great lengths to find a better, more efficient way of making money.
xKaraKx
Unfortunately they dont. Take medications for instance. The most efficient way of making money in medicine is NOT to cure people
Lysergian
The solution would be a better model that more fairly compensated society at large and whose drives were goal oriented instead of profit
xKaraKx
Socialism
Lysergian
I'm in favor of social programs, but socialism as a blanket term is too broad, it would definately have to have aspects of socialism though.
Lysergian
Driven. The problem is that corporations that are typically purely profit driven have begun to have undue influence on the machinery of
Lysergian
Government to the point that it more closely serves the bottom line of business and its own coffers than the public good. There are so few
Lucritas
I afford to pay my rent have food and party 2 times a month doing nothing due unemployment pay which by law has to cover my and others life
Lucritas
Expenses while unemployed ofcourse we have to be active in trying to employ ourselves and take part in courses etc but our government ain't
rivitingone
Is anyone offering $7.25 an hour anymore? The company I work for starts part time unskilled labor at $14. Just curious.
burningitchyrash
Pffftt... like this was actually real..
DesertPlanet
Kansas: in order to make more than fed minimum at entry level you have to work nights.
HighlandMadMan
Texas
sheisoneofours
Washington state is at 13.50 for minimum wage, and 2021 goes to 13.69 (nice)
Heavenissize17socks
Got laid off from a full time job, $10.25/hr, 32 hours a week.
Heavenissize17socks
That was after five years employment.
cdubby
Yes. In South Carolina 7.25 is the norm.
clinchuplegolas
Same in Indiana
1337firewife
And New Mexico
DarthBorks
Go to indeed.com and search for a job. $7.25/hr is common.
MatrimBloodyCauthon
By a guess, Republican states that can get away with it.
DanielArcaris
In the small town in Wyoming where I just moved away from almost every business pays federal minimum. Manager at the verizon store makes $9.
JaydeRaven
Pennsylvania
rivitingone
That's where I live
FangbangerAstraeus
There’s a grocery store that only offers 8.10 an hour down the street in Ohio.
LittleKittyChik
I work as a veterinarian in my country and i earn 2.84USD/hour. This is why lots of my colleagues leave for jobs overseas.
artificialbananas
Walmart is a decent baseline. Where I am (cheap small city) they are paying 10 minimum
castaing787360
Go to San Juan PR they are offering that and a little less for young people with no benefits basically slave labor.
slack3rdav3
KY def still has minimum wage pay.
Ispentthelastfewyearsbuildingupanimmunitytoiocanepowder
I'm in Michigan and I don't think really anywhere offers less than 10/11 and I'm pretty sure min wage is 8.45 right now. Maybe 8.65.
onthe6ball
I worked for minimum + tips, and loved it. all the money was unencumbered. I was secure already, but that much extra was great.
TheRimOfTheSky
I live in Virginia and I'm at my first job right now which pays minimum wage.
cucharatorcida
May I ask how old you are? (Just curious, from outside the US)
TheRimOfTheSky
18
Ziltch1
Dollar General in my area starts at $7.25. I saw the ad and now I'm boycotting them.
cucharatorcida
May I ask which state? Also, do you know if they are offering any additional benefits?
Ziltch1
Pa. From what I hear, they keep them under 40hrs. So they don't give them. I'm not spending my union paycheck there anymore. 1
Ziltch1
I watch the stock and it has steadily rose over the last couple years. Its all about making shareholders happy.
cucharatorcida
Hi! Sorry, what is a union paycheck? Can you only spend this in certain stores?
Ziltch1
I'm a union member, union members before me sacrificed ,risked thier livelihood for FAIR wages , safety, and a better workplace treatment 1
IdUpvoteYouButYoureAt69
I'm pretty sure the federal min wage in USA is like 7.25. It varies by state but yeeaahh
rivitingone
My question was whether or not anyone was actually paying that rate.
RiotDonnybrook
Minimum wage here in SC is roughly 7.25 and yeah there's plenty of places that pay that. But! If you get payed tips they can pay you less...
RiotDonnybrook
...than minimum wage. I've heard of places that pay waitresses something like four dollars and some change an hour....
RiotDonnybrook
.... though I've never worked anywhere like that myself so I can't confirm. Shits fucked though.
Muffinburgler
Plenty of states still pay $3 and rely on "tips" to pay workers.
dylanamanhouilhan
You are always guaranteed minimum wage, people consistently make significantly more than min wage on tips too
rivitingone
Separate issue from the federal minimum wage. It is also bull shit. I suppose some people don't have a choice but we have flexible hours
xKagonu
My husband was a $5.50 p/h bartender before COVID but after tips averaged over $20 p/h. Peak periods was over $40.
xKagonu
How, Steak'n Shake? I see the argument against $2.18 p/h +tips. Minimum wage should be universal, not job based. But please tip your server
dylanamanhouilhan
Minimum wage is guaranteed. If you somehow make less with tips the employer needs to make up the difference.
xKagonu
Now* ugh. But good serving jobs make hella bank and a base wage with no tips fucks them.
thorinc
... I'm surprised you consider this "hella bank". As a software developer, I won't work for less than $40/hr with full medical+pension, 1/
thorinc
$50/hr if no medical/pension, $70/hr if hired as a contractor where I have to cover my own days off. Maybe it's just that houses cost 2/
thorinc
more where I live? I'd be hard-pressed to survive on $20/hr these days. 3/3
tackleboxfortools
What state?
rivitingone
PA
tackleboxfortools
WA starts at $13.50, but we're getting taxed out of our asses here and Californians are taking over/ buying property, raising taxes. It sux
PosthumousExile
Yeah, in in california and I'm trying to leave too. *crosses washington off potential moving list*
cucharatorcida
Why are people downvoting a question? Was this meant to be sarcastic/passive-aggressive?
tackleboxfortools
They don't like my previous comments
cucharatorcida
Ah, yes. I see that now