FerbIsMySpiritAnimal
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How do people who are not trans get so invested in this fight? How does someone being trans hurt me?
Feb 25, 2021 4:52 PM
FerbIsMySpiritAnimal
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How do people who are not trans get so invested in this fight? How does someone being trans hurt me?
amglasgow
Science: "No, there's a spectrum of diversity in how sex is expressed in human biology." TERFs: "Not that science!"
FightingRevengeOfYourMom
Gender is not the same as sex.
STEVIERAYK
Science says margie is a bigoted a%#hole.
Isometimestakethingsliterally
Trust the science from someone who says masks don't work. What a piece of shit.
PineapplePizza4you
Where a mask, trust the science.
LuftMeister
Why would you trust someone who looks like a Dr. Seuss villain?
miakkamisfit
FB took down Newman’s post. Said it’s hate speech. They’re allowing Greens to stay up. Fuck FB
SmellingMistake
Fear and hate. It's what drives conservatives. Don't believe me? Spend five minutes on a conservative news site or channel.
LullabyJones
Imalwaysready
It doesn't hurt you. The right is just fucking scared of EVERYTHING outside their personal experience (and half the things within it).
xxdiaperprincessxx
:( I just want to be able to take a piss without some good ole boy threatening me. Fuck off already.
chemicalBagel
GOP leaders are nothing but trolls. Party of Lincoln my ass.
Raithryn
2 sexes yes. 2 genders idk
bikergeek6249
Climate change is real. Trust the science. Vaccines don't cause autism. Trust the science. Etc., etc.
ICantReadCursive
She’s just mad because there are prettier trans chicks than her.
MarisFreeborn
She's just mad period. Batshit fucking wall-candy-eating pants-on-head tinfoil-hat crazy.
UrsulatheArtist
I don't need more reasons to hate her. I'm sure she'll do something equally stupid and awful tomorrow.
MarisFreeborn
Like exist.
cdecker9
Isn't this the girl that does not trust the science on masks??
TI99Kitty
BuT iT's PoLiTiCaL! tHe DeMoCrAtS mAdE iT PoLiTiCaL!
Problemwoodchuck
Trust the science, coming from people who never do
plingplinggoesmydingding
Always get confused between her and that Bobert nutcase...
TI99Kitty
They all look the same to you? ;)
BBQatCirces
Neither of them are worth the time/mental energy to distinguish.
tr26
One was actually elected, one was unopposed
Whatswrongwiththispicture
Imalwaysready
Where have i seen that necklace before...?
TopherE
gwenniechan
MTG, the Whore of Babylon
darkwing42101
Seems like a cruel comparison for whores, they aren't as evil as MTG.
gwenniechan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whore_of_Babylon
Blueeyesscienceguy
As a scientist the whole gender thing is way more complex than anyone give it credit. Even when you're just looking at sexual organs.
SmolTenk
as a trans person the more I try to understand the science the more confusing it all gets. Human bodies are bullshit.
Blueeyesscienceguy
Yea, it's all stupidly complex. And we still don't know exactly how primary sexual diffentiation works, even when it's working 'typically'.
drmuelr
Biology writ large is a beautiful mess. Thank evolution for the millions of years of hacks on hacks on hacks that yielded our bodies.
flarflarf
wow if you think human bodies are bullshit wait until you find out about invertebrates
sarahallie
Gender is not the same as sex. Don’t use science to justify your hate.
endlessseaofstars
There aren't even two sexes. We've known about intersex people for literally thousands of years.
echonite
Honest question. Is that not "abnormal" though? Like, in the same way someone with extra limbs is abnormal. We don't consider extra limbs -/
endlessseaofstars
The wiki is a good place to start. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersex
echonite
to be just another variation of human development, they very clearly are not intended, but just a rare result due to some abnormality.
echonite
Again, honest question, just trying to understand.
endlessseaofstars
Intersex people are estimated to be .5-2% of the population. There are dozens of conditions that fall under this category.
echonite
General birth defects are about 3%. So it sounds like intersex people are really just an abnormality. Not trying to be degrading. They are -
endlessseaofstars
Abnormal just means not normal. Not good or bad, just not the usual. Which intersex is. So... not really sure what you're getting at.
echonite
Still human and deserving of respect.
Painkiller1020
Republicans: "2 genders, trust the science!" Also Republicans: "Climate change is a hoax, science is a liberal conspiracy"
SadSack
And the Jewish space laser.
Mimsey
And don't forget that they fought teaching evolution in schools tooth and nail for decades, and that some still do to this day.
Mimsey
Don't forget that they spent all year fighting epidemiologists when the scientists tried to explain how to stop a pandemic.
eddbrowne
Science proves many variations of "gender" from genetics, neurochemistry, toxicology, etc ; not psychology. She should crack a book.
SomeDetroitGuy
They're just as correct about the science in both cases.
Altanese
Man I remember it wasn't that long ago on imgur that being for trans rights would get you laughed at by a circle-jerk of transphobes
SomeDetroitGuy
Science literally says that intersex is a thing.
impedimenta
No no no. Not THAT science. That's too sciencey. The other "science." (the quotes are important)
tr26
And in statistically significant numbers
Bostonaoife
Gender is not science it is an assigned role. Sex is science, and there is a spectrum. Proven.
Dracology
I mean it IS a spectrum but its far from a gradient. You got 4 flavors of male, 3 female and 3 intersex. Very minor deviations in each.
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
Gender is a spectrum. Sex is ca. 10 possible chromosome combinations. XY, XX, XXX, XXXX, XXXXX, XXY, XYY, XXXY, XXXXY, and X0 (single chr.)
Dracology
Yeah its like.. the variants of Male are so minorly different there is really no point to dividing them. Same with female.
Dracology
It's why even as a trans person I just kinda go "ugh" when i see the sex is a spectrum thing, its more two barely blended pigments
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
Aside from that, there is a proven neurological basis for gender identities and sexual orientations that differ from the norm. MRI scans ...
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
show that the brains of both gay and transgender individuals are structurally similar to the brains of opposite-sex individuals. Meaning ...
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
gender identity and transgenderism have a solid scientific basis too.
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
That being said, the statement "there are 2 genders" isn't completely wrong. A spectrum has 2 ends. I have yet to meet anyone who proposes …
SickOfThisCessPool
Which Wayans brother is this?
TRDirty
Thhhaaaaaats what she reminded me of. Fuck it's been bothering me for weeks
Baron29
Can't unsee it
GpaSags
Demon?
Ifyourenotfirstyourelast
Is this offensive to the Wayans brothers, though? Damn. She cray.
secretdpp
Is the most relevant they'd of been in years, let them have it
loveyoumayyyyybeee
if i had a 1000 upvotes you would get them all
FerbIsMySpiritAnimal
I know right?
FireSolvesProblems
dabum
HiImLick
Super-under-rated comment. Well fuckin' played.
eastend666
You know perfectly well they both cleaned up a whole lot better than this deplorable turd.
MEL357
Hahahaha, they were way prettier than this beast
floydpinkerton10
juxtacation
That kids should have teeth, right???
FuckmotheringxVampire
"Trust the science! But only the science you agree with!
RogueLanguageModel
do you have a mirror nearby?.. :D
Heavenissize17socks
The DSM for transgender identity has changed *5 TIMES* since 1968. Science can change it's mind. Pity she can't.
BaronSpaghetti
It’s not even science. It’s idiotic confusing of gender and sex.
TheBeege
Even the science shows sex is not quite as binary as she claims, though the odd cases are very rare
imyourrealdad
Her science peaked 2000 plus years ago.
graaghles
Tim Pool: I'm going to use a Wikipedia definition to argue my point. OOPS, Wikipedia disagrees with me? Here is why it's wrong.
LumpWithaLeafHat
Science supports the argument that being transgender is an immutable physiological state, not some "delusion."
APerfectlyNormalPieceOfToast
That sign should have burst into flame from the sheer friggin' irony.
IAlwaysUpvoteBirdies
And if you show them science articles and studies about transgender people, they still won't believe you. I know cuz I tried.
Imalwaysready
It's in quotes as a mockery.
Othernate
But she did not trust the science.
Anhor
"Trust the science" - the lady who claimed that Jewish space lasers caused forest fires.
FuckmotheringxVampire
Jewish space lasers are science! Can't build space lasers without science ;-)
riverofdeath
To be fair, she referred to space-based solar power (a wild but real idea). connecting to fires & Jewish owners is where it gets nutty
elcee50
"It's just biology, look in a textbook!" Meanwhile, the textbook:
quiteawesome
Can Someone share a high res phot of this?
orbat
Well that's obviously just communist brainwashing like all science that doesn't agree with reich-wingers
WeCanDoBetter9
Yeah, yeah... well... um... ya know... not that kinda science
ReversedTRex
Exactly!
trapperjohnmd
...Not THAT science. Science like in the Bible
Ketheres
Science like Jewish space lazers?
TheGiantTater
Jhaza
My favorite is the people who are like, "come on this is high school biology!" Like, yeah, and much like anything else you learned in high
Jhaza
school, there's more to the topic? A high school diploma doesn't make you an expert on biology.
cjandstuff
Serious question, when was this taught/changed. I graduated high school in 2000, and in our books sex and gender were used interchangeably.
cjandstuff
I'm not trying to be a dick, I get it that sex and gender are not the same thing. But I admit that's what a lot of us were taught.
riverofdeath
But we learned, and now know more.
umebloom
In 2010 I was studying vertebrate zoology and genetics at university. At that time, "Sex" = the act. "Gender" = the gametes. 1/2
umebloom
By the time I graduated in 2012, The entire biology department was already in the midst of changing that in order to go along with the 2/3
InoffensivePablum
A common element of fascism is an obsession with sexuality. Specifically gender roles, and any “deviancy” from heteronormativity.
SexySexyChicken
I’ve commented this before but the trans community was present and well documented in Weimar Germany and was wiped out by the Nazis
mydogisbetterthanyourdog
Yeah the Nazi book burning that everyone thinks about was at the Sexuality Institute in Berlin. Erased a lot of LGBT history
Badger421
Huh. I had no idea. Thanks for the info, I'll have to look into it more later.
SexySexyChicken
Indeed it was! Makes me sad to think about how many people have seen the footage and don’t know that. Erasure has continued for a long time
RogueLanguageModel
which side is actually obsessed with it though
InoffensivePablum
The people who aren’t it but can’t shut up about it or stop telling lies about it.
RogueLanguageModel
the people that make "pride flags" to announce their position to everyone that doesnt care?
GeauxFightWin
Motherfucker, if “no one cared” that some ppl were trans/etc then they WOULDN’T NEED TO PROUDLY STAND UP FOR THEIR RIGHTS. It’s visibility.
InoffensivePablum
RogueLanguageModel
so? :)
Kamasu0Tra
Except people do care. Look at OP's post for an example of someone who cares way too much about something that doesn't effect her.
RogueLanguageModel
you mistake the cause and the effect
Kamasu0Tra
Ha ha, little bitch had to mute me because I hurt the snowflakes world view. Hopefully you grow into a more mature and better person.
skipweasel
Does she "trust the science" and wear a mask?
TI99Kitty
Only when she can have some hateful or inaccurate slogan, or some falsehood, on it.
IHateApostrophes
Her face looks like its one of those "realistic" masks. It creeps me the fuck out.
SchmidtOnYoLip
Only the science of Jewish space lasers.
FerbIsMySpiritAnimal
That is what makes it mocking, she uses our words as an attack.
ryohji
Which is stupid because scientists knows the difference of definition between "sexes" and "genders".
AdmiralButtStuff
She needs to be expelled from Congress already.
xanadudu
She needs to be ejected from this planet already.
FriendlyNeighborhoodGrammarPerson
Just launch her into the sun.
supraman2turbo
Why make the sun suffer her existence launch her at a black hole
MarisFreeborn
If nothing else, she'll provide a femtosecond's worth of fuel.
darkwing42101
Let's find the universe of pure evil and send her back to it, why pollute anywhere in our own universe.
rawdog
That podium looks about as organized and coherent as her thoughts...
SnarkShark2020
Looks like scrap metal someone found in a field by the highway!
sadsquatch
Probably found it behind a Sonic where she earned her nickname
llamallamadingd0ng
To protect her from the Jewish lasers
Snooj
Looks like she's giving a speech while at a public-use grill in a park.
TheCoachAdair
It’s a lectern, but point taken.
guitarfourtysix
Hannibal's Lectern
TheCoachAdair
whitefoxkei
Looks like it was stolen from a bus terminal
CanadianCobraChicken
I've seen country road mailboxes in better shape
guitarfourtysix
Yeah she does look like she's been rode hard and hung up wet.
ThePunishersVengefulBrother
I thought it was a small keyboard or DJ setup.
rawdog
Shes rockin that MOOG...
llamallamadingd0ng
Spewing all the Q crap
iamthisguy247
Is that even a podium? Looks like something they slapped together because someone stole that last one.
llamallamadingd0ng
Nah that’s the one they gave specifically for her to use. They just told her to podium is currently being repaired. She’ll believe anything.
Snooj
A podium is a platform to stand on and a lectern is what you stand behind and rest your notes on. So pedantically it is not a podium.
TheCoachAdair
This is what I came for.
Snooj
It's a battle I gave up on long ago but sometimes it's fun to rekindle the old fire.
rawdog
You won with me! I love details/correct terminology. Lectern it is! Easy to remember to since lecturers use them.