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in a land where everything wants to kill you.
Feb 18, 2018 9:20 PM
psuedon
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in a land where everything wants to kill you.
fiveftninja
2002 monash university
SinisterIcyBlackHandOfDeath
yes please stop suggesting ways to stop this. we're trying nothing here and happy with it.
digdoug78
American gun owners are pussilanious snowflakes.
Aesurah
If Sandy Hook and the massacre in Las Vegas didn't change anything, nothing will.
Dvicemuse
Does the Australian constitution have the right to bear arms? I imagine they would've faced more opposition passing reform of it did.
Justheretowastemytime
Entitled. That's all that comes to mind...
51CorgisInABar
@OP it doesn’t matter, this argument was won a long time ago. Nut jobs get to keep their ability to buy lots of guns, and all it costs is
51CorgisInABar
a bunch of children every few months. NRA and GOP are fine with paying that cost apparently
MilkofAmnesia
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sexualharassments
Now tells us about the stats in Mexico
psuedon
Mexico? maybe 4 school shooting over the past decade. the USA has it's own wiki page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_shooting#Mexico
sexualharassments
Look at Mexico's crime and homicide rates, baby
psuedon
comparing Apples to Apples. We are talking school shootings.
sexualharassments
Oh, so murder on the streets isnt as bad? Cartels kidnapping and raping is better?
turk187
They also changed the definition of "mass" from 4+ to 10+. Otherwise the number would not be 0. source/
Aesurah
The text above was specifically referring to mass shootings. Family murders/killing don't usually get counted in this type of attack anyway.
turk187
the list includes mass shootings since then too. There have been 2, although one only killed 2 people and wounded 5. Still more than 0.
Aesurah
3 not 2, a family annihilator killed his family, and the lindt Cafe siege. Although 2 of 3 deaths there were caused by the police. 1/2
Aesurah
That is a total of 12 people in 20 years. Compared to America, with 30 deaths from mass shootings so far in 2018, it's a big difference
turk187
Didn't hit the standard of 4 or more killed or wounded for a "mass" killing. So I didn't include it.
turk187
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_Australia they have had the same number of mass killings in the 22 years since the Port/
turk187
/ arthur shooting as they had before its just its much more arson, knives, and cars than guns.
Justheretowastemytime
1) That's about 40 people killed since Port Arthur. The latest school shooting in the usa left 30 dead. Correct?
Justheretowastemytime
2) That's the 18th shooting in the usa this year. You still debate that guns aren't the problem? You don't care enough about yourselves
turk187
No, there have not been 18 shootings this year. Google it.
turk187
US population is about 12 times Australia, so your death toll is like 480 Americans dead. Still pretty bad. US is worse, but still.
th031695
Honestly i would rather it be shootings. At least then its fast. I would hate to think of a knife attack where kids bleed out slowly.
Justheretowastemytime
So you think it's always a quick death from shooting? Too many films kiddo
th031695
No i think theres a higher chance of it. Rather than bleeding out for hours.
SkullsForTheSkullThrone
And yet your former prison colony still has a higher murder rate than us well-armed Swiss.
kosmonaught
I thought you had to be smart to live in SwitZerland? Maybe not
SkullsForTheSkullThrone
And?
wulfcastle
Most Swiss only own a service weapon and for a limited amount of time and aren‘t given ammo to go with it. Not quite the same as owning one
SkullsForTheSkullThrone
Ammo can easily be bought at a store or even easier at a gun range and many decide to keep their rifles after service. Also, the 1
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current service rifle is a minority to weapons owned with most being older service rifles which are unregistered. 2
EtPourtantNon
This comment is intentionally misleading and you know it. Firearms are heavily regulated in Switzerland, which is what the US is calling for
SkullsForTheSkullThrone
Are they? Gun rights in Switzerland are protected by law and can be easily bought with a background check and requisition form (which can't1
SkullsForTheSkullThrone
be denied for no reason). Swiss males serving in the military have the option to take their service rifle home and keep it after service. 2
SkullsForTheSkullThrone
A background check is also mandatory in the US on a federal level for every gun bought at a store, and just like the US private sales do 3
SkullsForTheSkullThrone
not require a background check be presented but that the seller has no reason to believe the buyer is breaking the law and report to the 4
SkullsForTheSkullThrone
authorities that the weapon was sold if it was a weapon that was registered in the first place, which are the minority here. 5
PileOfWalthers
"The US" is calling for fuck all, least of all heavier firearms regulations.
EtPourtantNon
Fair. Character restrictions truncated my comment but many American CITIZENS are calling for it which I acknowledge is different.
PileOfWalthers
Many, but not all. And I'll leave it at that.
EtPourtantNon
Agreed.
Artiven
What works for one country might not work for another one
dnsbubba
And we're not even going to try.
Artiven
Probably not
shaggykx
No, but it probably will... since it's a tried and tested method of most civilised countries in the world...
Artiven
Well as that would go against our constitutional rights it probably won't
HonestlyNotARobot
banning automatic and semi-automatic weapons isn't against anything in the constitution
Artiven
But that is not how people in the United States view it
HypersonicHero
The constitution was written by slave owners. Stop pretending they were gods. They were just men trying their best.