Aug 5, 2022 6:40 PM
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blindobi
Male or Female, they have some big balls.
NoSandalsAllowed
I didn’t know Zelensky was also a helicopter pilot?
Akaszkronos
He's not landing on the ship, he's just figuring out where he needs to be when the ship comes up.
PaniPelagia
Meh
Jonquepublik
Navy pilots are the best
ThatOneGuyWhoDidThatOneThingAtThatOnePlaceThatOneTime
By the looks of it they're the only/nearest vessels out there. If he missed, even circling round would take long enough for him to disappear
ATLandNerdy
Navy flyboys always land like they're afraid the runway is gonna jump out of the way... because they've landed where it would before
Robohobo541
heck that
DQ1701
Nah no bravery there, pilots will be quick to point out take offs are optional landings are mandatory. Hes landing on the ship or water.
mercbrit
That’s not as difficult to do as it looks. It’s way more difficult than that. My own attempt is going well.
michaelfire
deck crew balls of titanium
weidermeijer
I haven’t been OOD during flight quarters for a while, but looking at the sea, if they were heading 10-15 degrees one way or the other, 1/2
they may have had more favorable seas (pitch and roll) while still in the helo’s envelope. 2/2
FractalB
It's easy to keep your gravity center with balls this massive.
dizzyturtle
Also brave were those two guys standing on the deck. If those propellers hit something shrapnel would fly everywhere.
ZebraDGR8
Well ... it's either that ...or crash landing in to the sea when the fuel is out
JakSandrow
What are the chances the pilot is also forklift certified? I'd say about 80% or so, I think.
whistlebuzz
Brass. Navy pilots balls are brass.
LaundryNight
How about the LSO's standing on the deck. Those guys are absolutely in the death zone if the pilot has a bad day. Big brass ones all round
strawmanAlert
It's a team effort. The pilots are also in communication (visual and audio) with the ground crew that give guidance.
AzraelWalker
Man that single wiper blade is putting in a solid effort.
montec00
There are two wipers. The center windscreen doesn’t have a wiper but the other pilot does. But they still aren’t very good to begin with.
moosemulligan
Wiper blade was a decorative touch.
Cpthornswoggler
Those crazy Danes.
TeeArrLikesPizza
Is that an Iver Hudvelt?
IDoStuffZ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3A_noXLzuo&ab_channel=Forsvaret Thetis class.
Iver Huitfeldt class is a 6500T v Thetis class 3500T. Close to half size.
xstickman
I wonder what sea water does to the rotor mechanism
Mumalot
it gets assalted.
Bytencoder
It washes it.
TerrorAustralisIncognita
Lightly salts it (to taste)
MisterPrimeMinister
What happens if you add too much garlic to the rotor mechanism?
samwyze
Trick question! You can never add too much garlic.
A man of culture I see
RandallKavanaugh
It's not like he has a choice - land or ???
LurkerOfDarkness
He probably has enough fuel to make it to land, the faroes are right there in the background.
But wouldn't it be tough to land on a pyramid?
While that particular part is pointy, the rest of the islands has plenty of areas flat enough for helicopters. It's more the planes that ½
Have issues.
Sorry, it was a poor joke on Faroes and pharaohs...
Mrw1cked
I SAID HOLD STILL!!
Frankiejoneston
For a minute there I thought this was an evil looping gif where they never land. That was impressive
Rockafella83
Not to diminish the impressive skills but they have a hook in the center for assistance. Newer version are even laser guided with autopilot
Mithrandimgur
Sayagain
Somebody more talented than me should make thar happen
SteveMND
Yeah, a half-minute in and I had to check the progress bar to make sure.
iReleaseEndorphins
Same! lol
KnifeKnut
The way some of the jerks on imgur are you especially have to check with a best comment like that
scuba7jb
I thought they dropped a cable down, hook to the ship, then the chopper pulls up against it, and winches down to the deck in bad weather [?]
putcleverusernamehere
I was going to ask the same question
sabaticalbob
This one has a electromagnet installed in the deck that pulls the helicopter down by the pilots giant steel balls.
TremendousDude5
It's better be that way
nevek
There's a couple iterations of that system, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0s4pKEOu6E this video gives a great explanation of each kind.
umibozusan
Many thanks that was great
JustAddMud
Im no helicopter pilot but that sounds like a horrible idea. The ship could still buck up into you causing a lotta damage.
GTimgur
If the helicopter is constantly pulling, then no.
No. Helicopter would just start moving in sync with ship
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beartrap_(hauldown_device)
It's a legitimate system they use, Invented by the Canadian Navy in th 60's
teberoth
Its not perfect but it does help. Keeps you from rolling off after a bad landing. The rising swell is compensated by the copter keeping 1/?
The lift high, like he's trying to lift the boat. The ship rolling laterally is actually the bigger hazard
LapsisBeeftech
I was wondering about this. Seems like this guy could slide right off..
uniquepseudonym
https://youtu.be/5EZqthhTMfA beartrap system first developed by Canada because the Artic and North Atlantic are crazy.
DavidBrooker
A combination of that and Canada's unique position. As a small-budget Navy, but as one of the premiere anti-submarine forces in NATO, 1/2
Canada had a need to operate large classes of helicopters specialized to the ASW role, but from small surface combatants they could 2/3
afford, which exacerbated the issue of sea state. 3/3
This ratio of helicopter to ship size is pretty extreme, for example
That is called a Beartrap, which was developed by the Canadian Navy, and is in use on most surface combatants of the navies of the US, 1/2
azgrak
Throwing down the knowledge!
thedarkcanuck
Of course the Canadians named it the fucking Beartrap
hewhocontrolsthespice
WhiskeyWire and MapleMoore were in use.
… something, something beaver.
Snooj
What should they name it, the "Sorry, helicopter"?
dghughes
Goose Grab was also a possibility.
UK, Australia, Canada and Japan, all of such systems manufactured in Ontario. However, other countries use other systems. Some use a 2/3
device called RAST, popular among European navies, where a (more) rigid coupler grasps one of an array of mating couplings on the 3/4
fantail. China and Russia have their own systems. Some, especially small combatants, have no securing device at all. 4/4
Interesting stuff. Thank you for explaining.
circlebreaker
Neat TIL +1
masheenest
Where is Ontario? Rolls Royce?
Coolmikefromcanada
Shearwater
Indal, which is currently owned by Curtis-Wright.
I used to make naval winch components for Rolls Royce in Peterborough Ontario . That’s why I asked. I think they were for towed sonar though
PhloydPhan
You have to be a bit of a lunatic to want to fly a helicopter to begin with.
Aimlockbelch
Planes slip gracefully through the air. Helicopters beat the air into submission
swedeonamoose
Especially when landing one on something that suddenly gets pushed towards the helo with the waves.
agonarch
I remember my first, I was coming in behind another helo and asked the more experienced guy in front if he had any tips. He said:
"Oh yeah - don't miss. Out here you'll probably freeze before you drown." (north sea) It's like a pinnacle landing but wave instead of wind
dadof2as
It's fun...but those moments are terrifying. -Lunatic(former)
Guess that makes me a loonie..
MarauderPilot
A helicopter is just a collection of swords orbiting an oil leak.
IVerifyPeoplesUsernames
"If the wings are traveling faster than the fuselage, it's probably a helicopter—and therefore, unsafe."
Jest3r123
Well in all fairness if you're in a fixed wing plane and the wings start going faster than the fuselage it's probably not safe either.
Leithoa
Never trust an aircraft whose wings go faster than the fuselage.
elbowdeepinagoose
UltimaDoge
A helicopter basically wants to kill you the moment you start the engines
override367
just a brick that is temporarily using a glitch to not be on the ground
KillerTofu615
If I was going to take lessons, it'd want to be in a helicopter, not a plane.
MisterLemons
Ditto. Gimme that sweet go-anywhere VTOL any day.
https://youtu.be/hPakbghLe38
LongoloidFartExplosion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKf64MvaTd0
bro02tc
What was the cause of the crash
Based on the spin, some kind of tail roter failure.
OmegaZen
u just go up and down, and tilt forward a bit. not that hard actually ;)
GOAE
Until you learn about vortex ring state, translating tendency, settling with power, change in lift when yawing, etc
Tons of reasons why helicopters, as cool as they are, are difficult to fly.
speedhandle
It becomes just like second nature, or an extension of you, like riding a bicycle.
Yeah I'm a helipilot - unlike fixed wing it's basically fighting physics at every step, dynamically unstable, unwanted torque...
People play games and think they get it or worse, see an instructor - you'll find vids on youtube of rich people who take off solo ;)
blindobi
Male or Female, they have some big balls.
NoSandalsAllowed
I didn’t know Zelensky was also a helicopter pilot?
Akaszkronos
He's not landing on the ship, he's just figuring out where he needs to be when the ship comes up.
PaniPelagia
Meh
Jonquepublik
Navy pilots are the best
ThatOneGuyWhoDidThatOneThingAtThatOnePlaceThatOneTime
By the looks of it they're the only/nearest vessels out there. If he missed, even circling round would take long enough for him to disappear
ATLandNerdy
Navy flyboys always land like they're afraid the runway is gonna jump out of the way... because they've landed where it would before
Robohobo541
heck that
DQ1701
Nah no bravery there, pilots will be quick to point out take offs are optional landings are mandatory. Hes landing on the ship or water.
mercbrit
That’s not as difficult to do as it looks. It’s way more difficult than that. My own attempt is going well.
michaelfire
deck crew balls of titanium
weidermeijer
I haven’t been OOD during flight quarters for a while, but looking at the sea, if they were heading 10-15 degrees one way or the other, 1/2
weidermeijer
they may have had more favorable seas (pitch and roll) while still in the helo’s envelope. 2/2
FractalB
It's easy to keep your gravity center with balls this massive.
dizzyturtle
Also brave were those two guys standing on the deck. If those propellers hit something shrapnel would fly everywhere.
ZebraDGR8
Well ... it's either that ...or crash landing in to the sea when the fuel is out
JakSandrow
What are the chances the pilot is also forklift certified? I'd say about 80% or so, I think.
whistlebuzz
Brass. Navy pilots balls are brass.
LaundryNight
How about the LSO's standing on the deck. Those guys are absolutely in the death zone if the pilot has a bad day. Big brass ones all round
strawmanAlert
It's a team effort. The pilots are also in communication (visual and audio) with the ground crew that give guidance.
AzraelWalker
Man that single wiper blade is putting in a solid effort.
montec00
There are two wipers. The center windscreen doesn’t have a wiper but the other pilot does. But they still aren’t very good to begin with.
moosemulligan
Wiper blade was a decorative touch.
Cpthornswoggler
Those crazy Danes.
TeeArrLikesPizza
Is that an Iver Hudvelt?
IDoStuffZ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3A_noXLzuo&ab_channel=Forsvaret Thetis class.
IDoStuffZ
Iver Huitfeldt class is a 6500T v Thetis class 3500T. Close to half size.
xstickman
I wonder what sea water does to the rotor mechanism
Mumalot
it gets assalted.
Bytencoder
It washes it.
TerrorAustralisIncognita
Lightly salts it (to taste)
MisterPrimeMinister
What happens if you add too much garlic to the rotor mechanism?
samwyze
Trick question! You can never add too much garlic.
TerrorAustralisIncognita
A man of culture I see
RandallKavanaugh
It's not like he has a choice - land or ???
LurkerOfDarkness
He probably has enough fuel to make it to land, the faroes are right there in the background.
RandallKavanaugh
But wouldn't it be tough to land on a pyramid?
LurkerOfDarkness
While that particular part is pointy, the rest of the islands has plenty of areas flat enough for helicopters. It's more the planes that ½
LurkerOfDarkness
Have issues.
RandallKavanaugh
Sorry, it was a poor joke on Faroes and pharaohs...
Mrw1cked
I SAID HOLD STILL!!
Frankiejoneston
For a minute there I thought this was an evil looping gif where they never land. That was impressive
Rockafella83
Not to diminish the impressive skills but they have a hook in the center for assistance. Newer version are even laser guided with autopilot
Mithrandimgur
Sayagain
Somebody more talented than me should make thar happen
SteveMND
Yeah, a half-minute in and I had to check the progress bar to make sure.
iReleaseEndorphins
Same! lol
KnifeKnut
The way some of the jerks on imgur are you especially have to check with a best comment like that
scuba7jb
I thought they dropped a cable down, hook to the ship, then the chopper pulls up against it, and winches down to the deck in bad weather [?]
putcleverusernamehere
I was going to ask the same question
sabaticalbob
This one has a electromagnet installed in the deck that pulls the helicopter down by the pilots giant steel balls.
TremendousDude5
It's better be that way
nevek
There's a couple iterations of that system, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0s4pKEOu6E this video gives a great explanation of each kind.
umibozusan
Many thanks that was great
JustAddMud
Im no helicopter pilot but that sounds like a horrible idea. The ship could still buck up into you causing a lotta damage.
GTimgur
If the helicopter is constantly pulling, then no.
putcleverusernamehere
No. Helicopter would just start moving in sync with ship
scuba7jb
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beartrap_(hauldown_device)
nevek
It's a legitimate system they use, Invented by the Canadian Navy in th 60's
teberoth
Its not perfect but it does help. Keeps you from rolling off after a bad landing. The rising swell is compensated by the copter keeping 1/?
teberoth
The lift high, like he's trying to lift the boat. The ship rolling laterally is actually the bigger hazard
LapsisBeeftech
I was wondering about this. Seems like this guy could slide right off..
uniquepseudonym
https://youtu.be/5EZqthhTMfA beartrap system first developed by Canada because the Artic and North Atlantic are crazy.
DavidBrooker
A combination of that and Canada's unique position. As a small-budget Navy, but as one of the premiere anti-submarine forces in NATO, 1/2
DavidBrooker
Canada had a need to operate large classes of helicopters specialized to the ASW role, but from small surface combatants they could 2/3
DavidBrooker
afford, which exacerbated the issue of sea state. 3/3
DavidBrooker
This ratio of helicopter to ship size is pretty extreme, for example
DavidBrooker
That is called a Beartrap, which was developed by the Canadian Navy, and is in use on most surface combatants of the navies of the US, 1/2
azgrak
Throwing down the knowledge!
thedarkcanuck
Of course the Canadians named it the fucking Beartrap
hewhocontrolsthespice
WhiskeyWire and MapleMoore were in use.
weidermeijer
… something, something beaver.
Snooj
What should they name it, the "Sorry, helicopter"?
dghughes
Goose Grab was also a possibility.
DavidBrooker
UK, Australia, Canada and Japan, all of such systems manufactured in Ontario. However, other countries use other systems. Some use a 2/3
DavidBrooker
device called RAST, popular among European navies, where a (more) rigid coupler grasps one of an array of mating couplings on the 3/4
DavidBrooker
fantail. China and Russia have their own systems. Some, especially small combatants, have no securing device at all. 4/4
hewhocontrolsthespice
Interesting stuff. Thank you for explaining.
circlebreaker
Neat TIL +1
masheenest
Where is Ontario? Rolls Royce?
Coolmikefromcanada
Shearwater
DavidBrooker
Indal, which is currently owned by Curtis-Wright.
masheenest
I used to make naval winch components for Rolls Royce in Peterborough Ontario . That’s why I asked. I think they were for towed sonar though
PhloydPhan
You have to be a bit of a lunatic to want to fly a helicopter to begin with.
Aimlockbelch
Planes slip gracefully through the air. Helicopters beat the air into submission
swedeonamoose
Especially when landing one on something that suddenly gets pushed towards the helo with the waves.
agonarch
I remember my first, I was coming in behind another helo and asked the more experienced guy in front if he had any tips. He said:
agonarch
"Oh yeah - don't miss. Out here you'll probably freeze before you drown." (north sea) It's like a pinnacle landing but wave instead of wind
dadof2as
It's fun...but those moments are terrifying. -Lunatic(former)
LapsisBeeftech
Guess that makes me a loonie..
MarauderPilot
A helicopter is just a collection of swords orbiting an oil leak.
IVerifyPeoplesUsernames
"If the wings are traveling faster than the fuselage, it's probably a helicopter—and therefore, unsafe."
Jest3r123
Well in all fairness if you're in a fixed wing plane and the wings start going faster than the fuselage it's probably not safe either.
Leithoa
Never trust an aircraft whose wings go faster than the fuselage.
elbowdeepinagoose
UltimaDoge
A helicopter basically wants to kill you the moment you start the engines
override367
just a brick that is temporarily using a glitch to not be on the ground
KillerTofu615
If I was going to take lessons, it'd want to be in a helicopter, not a plane.
MisterLemons
Ditto. Gimme that sweet go-anywhere VTOL any day.
Leithoa
https://youtu.be/hPakbghLe38
LongoloidFartExplosion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKf64MvaTd0
bro02tc
What was the cause of the crash
KillerTofu615
Based on the spin, some kind of tail roter failure.
OmegaZen
u just go up and down, and tilt forward a bit. not that hard actually ;)
GOAE
Until you learn about vortex ring state, translating tendency, settling with power, change in lift when yawing, etc
GOAE
Tons of reasons why helicopters, as cool as they are, are difficult to fly.
speedhandle
It becomes just like second nature, or an extension of you, like riding a bicycle.
agonarch
Yeah I'm a helipilot - unlike fixed wing it's basically fighting physics at every step, dynamically unstable, unwanted torque...
agonarch
People play games and think they get it or worse, see an instructor - you'll find vids on youtube of rich people who take off solo ;)