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Feb 25, 2018 7:00 AM
ArabWolf
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Sitraka
1) product of natural selection 2) product of humankind :p
Icantrecall
I like pugs. after all it's not their fault. But, IMO (with which no one need agree) All short muzzle breeds are a shame on breeders.
TheCollect
I like pugs.. pugs are cool.
tonybrio3000
Puglife matters
Comradesjeltonarmy
Except the definition of evolution is the change in allele frequency. Pugs fit that definition. They have indeed evolved.
kinglouisfromthejunglebook
Yeah your first mistake was to assume human intelligence
HJumper
Which is the GMO - genetically modified organism? Ha, both - one is by nature the other by humans.
eviscera
One example does not merit the word "always." Look at domesticated fruits. Look at any number of dogs bred for aesthetics other than 'derp.'
bukobg
More like natural selection vs artificial selection ?
Basghetti
I appreciate this post.
pshym
I mean.. you’re not wrong.
snailmilk
*unintelligent human design*
smooshiebanana
And yet more people own pugs then wolves. Take that evolutionists!
Messias04
Pug party!
tracereading
I dunno, man, evolution has made some pretty dumb shit over the eras.
LMTMFA
Always more beautiful? You've obviously never seen a deep sea fishing post. :D
grittyvonred
Pug=fun, sweet companion that loves you and can live in your house. Makes you laugh. Wolf=rip your throat out. Makes you die.Intelligence 1
craigasaurus0
That is not intelligent design, that is artificial selection
ProxyPlayerHD
maybe we were made by an Artifical Inelligence in some post-singularity civilization
Individualsocksinthewashingmachine
For a laugh
Solobolt
Also design:
idontevenlookatusernames
Majestic as fuck.
Solobolt
Tibetan Mastiff: The dog built to hunt bears. I want to ride it into battle
Ulthirm
Interestingly not all breeds were bred to be small by humans, the chihuahua has an ancestor that was naturally smaller (albeit we have bred
Ulthirm
that up a bit now a days) so for some the health issues of being bred small like this doesnt occur, though it does in pugs.
Ulthirm
A good example is teacup breeding. There is an entire industry to making teacup breeds, the problem is that these breeds have abnormally
Ulthirm
small chests and can struggle to breath, they have such lean bodies that their muscles can actually struggle to behave under day to day
Ulthirm
lives. Teacups also arent ugly and yet are just as unhealthy as a pug...
ForrestIndustries
Lol I just saw a post about a shark with flabby lips, and an autistic looking elephant. Nature isn't always more beautiful
teenageasshat
The thing is that those animals you just saw were bred out of existence, natural selection did it job. Pugs are not a result of nature 1/2
teenageasshat
Pugs are a result of human interference 2/2
banicks
The pug of today is inbred and incapable of looking after itself. Look up original pug breed, you'll see why.
TrueNorthernLights
There's a push by vets to breed the muzzles of dog like this back out so they can at least breathe properly.
Carefuler
How about just not breed the fucked up little things, and pick a different dog?
worldsokayestspeler
Id say just stop breeding pugs and bulldogs. Its kinda fucked up.
TrueNorthernLights
I agree. But people won't give up their fav breeds.
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
Why have them at all though? It's a problem of our own creation. Just stop making more pugs, problem solved.
OSCgal
They're bred for personality as well as looks: they're sweet & charming. It's the "looks" part that needs to change.
TrueNorthernLights
I agree. But people refuse to give up their fav bteed. Let's at least make them comfortable.
UnknownGeek
I've seen lots of 'puggles' around. They have longer snouts since they're bred with beagles
TrueNorthernLights
I'd have a pug except fortheir trouble breathing, and other horrible health issues.
Sauroctonus
Great, now you need to specify "echidna" when searching for these.
therealVexed
its like a cute demon
SharkyMcSnarkface
Puggles just sounds like a term for non-magical dogs.
LuckyWristbands
And they're gosh darn adorable
abacaxi
Why not breed them with horses?
RackhamTheRed
maybe "intelligent" is the wrong term for that outcome...
ThatoneQuebecguywhothinkshesCanadian
Its just the kind of intelligence that knew how to please rich, lonely people.
FancyBanana
golden retriver maybe? a good housepet and an expert at retrieving game, also sorely lacking in the smarts so it wont do much without you
Bennings
That's the joke.
RackhamTheRed
no shit skippy
Mockingbirb
Modern breeds are human made, but don't forget that nature gave us dogs too- here's a scientific depiction:
FixedsysLabs
Emotional
magemorpheus
I think maybe "artificial selection" is the one he was looking for
battlepants
"Profitable" design
ScumbagRob
Untelligent*
ClassicImgurian
Duntelegent
BecauseJapan
RackhamTheRed
SaltedChickenLips
Product of “intelligent” design
Horebos
Outelligent, in and out and in and out.
ClassicImgurian
Detelegent
Whatyouregonnawannado
Detergent!
ClassicImgurian
It's a Tide Ad
Angrynortherner
Untelligent
BIackJesus
Imtelligent
WhatzitTooya
Outelligent!
AbledFire
Nontelligent
HitlersKDratio
Imalsotelligent
BIackJesus
I'm glad to have made contact with another high I.Q. Specimen such as yourself.
Evenmorehorrifying
Selective Breeding. Title misleading.
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
Eh, close enough.
EatingFiftyBagels
Intelligent design is the belief that god did it.
Mockingbirb
Yes, thank you - that's what creationists say now, was not sure at first
srslydude
Actually, creationists believe in intelligent design, but not all who believe in intelligent design are creationists.
Evenmorehorrifying
This.
jadespider
and pugs turned out pretty much exactly how they where bred to turn out. Put in a retarded product request, get a retarded product.
SarenraeTheDawnflower
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
doctorbocker
The breed that came just before modern pugs were considerably less fucked up. Good ratters.
wildwiredweasel
I would like one mp3 player that only reads vinyl, please
khora
Yeah, don't let customers do design.
TheAnswerWasAlwaysMoreLube
Sell to...
quattroformaggix4
“product request” accurate and gross
demonic
what were they breed to do?
ladyanderpants
Look cuter
psychotopiax
personality and looks
demonic
maybe personality but they look fnk retarded lol
psychotopiax
yeah thats part of the charm
Fooby
You know how pretty girls always have an ugly friend? Like that.
chiechien
Have their eyes fall out when they sneeze
ChrisMcDude
Literally just to hang out and be an indoor pet. They're great cuddlers.
AbledFire
They were bred to retard. Nothing else.
OSCgal
According to Wikipedia, they were bred to be sweet-natured and loving companion dogs. Which they are. The problem is that 1/2
OSCgal
people went overboard breeding for their distinctive squashed faces, leading to breathing problems. 2/2
HiddenSanity
I mean, the horrid breathing problems weren't specifically asked for.
Lionskull
they didn't ask for it NOT to happen.
Meowserita
They weren't literally asking for it but they most certainly were figuratively asking for it.
Sauroctonus
"Give it a shorter nose", "But that means it won't be able to breathe!", "Do it anyway, it might work"
lurkeylurkeychickenturkey
I got lucky. All my pug does is snore and occasionally inhale her water. She’s good at breathing, mostly
Cerinna
"Their cute smooshed faces!" is probably what was asked for, without knowing the consequences. I always feel conflicted on pugs, as a 1/2
Cerinna
(almost) vet I hate the problems they have, poor things, but their personalities are amazing. 2/2
psychotopiax
i think they should have restricted ownership only allowed to own one if you get full insurance for it so its qol doesn't nose dive
Cerinna
Honestly I think most dog breeds should have restricted ownership. Prove you'll give it a good life or no dog for you. >O But I do 1/2
koops
I had 2. My family had several other dog types as I grew up but the pugs were by far the best (personality wise) than any of the others.
Cerinna
The pugs I had as patients were very cheerful, happy to be there, and very helpful even. One held out its paw at me like "Fix it!" :')
InsertSatiricalReferenceHere
All domestic dogs are because of selective breeding throughout the centuries though
Rynath
"selective breeding" Think on that.
delpharseven
True, but breeding for looks is a relatively modern thing (<200 years).
InsertSatiricalReferenceHere
I don't disagree with you there but there are still plenty of intelligent breeds that have been bred for looks as well :)
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
I believe you missed a zero. The above abomination was bred in China some 2000 years ago.
delpharseven
True, there are exceptions (though we don't actually know when and why pugs were created), but the practice really took off in the 1800s.
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
We don't know precisely how old the breed is, but we can trace it back to ancient China, where they were once exclusively bred for ...
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
the emperor as lapdogs / curiosity. Nobody else was allowed to touch the emperor's pugs.
PanzaeronQ
Not even the ancient chinese were that cruel, ancient pugs were infinitely healthier than todays sad, snorting, eye bulging fart machines.
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
You may be right that the breed has undergone some changes since then. However, they were definitely bred for no other purpose than looks.
PanzaeronQ
I never said they weren't, its not even a very nice look IMHO, I love most animals but modern pugs and bulldogs are just unpleasant AF.
FiftyShadesOfCauliflower
Have you seen any ancient pugs lately? Neither has anyone else. We have no idea what they looked like. Ancient art is not exactly lifelike.
PanzaeronQ
1/2 Well they could breed and give birth by themselves for one, thats a good start, also early 1900 photos of pugs show that they had
PanzaeronQ
2/2 somewhat proper snouts so its safe to say ancient ones could breathe relatively better too.
delpharseven
Breeding pugs is cruelty.
wetfart92
I love how this is upvoted in the context of posts like this, but when there's a pug doing silly things in a gif then the opposite happens
TrueNorthernLights
Because pug behavior is cute. But as an animal they're sickly.
BiBiBiBiBiBiBi
Well I'm always sickend when I see these abominations of nature.
TrundleTheGr8
Live the pug life
grittyvonred
I think you people are thinking of English bulldogs.
delpharseven
Them too.
ChugMonkey2
Breeding all types of dogs is cruelty, as dogs that are bred by us no matter the breed will suffer from diseases, ailments, illnesses 1/2
ChugMonkey2
that they would never have suffered by if they were still wild animals. But you know, lets just ignore that part because playing a
ChugMonkey2
double standard is fun!
VenDei
There are some breeders who go for longer muzzles these days with the intent to get a pug that can actually breathe freely. There's hope.
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
Or, and hear me out here, just don't breed pugs? Breed dogs who can already breathe properly? Just saying.
VenDei
Would be nice, but will happen at about the same time as all of the USA is declared a gunfree zone.
KingKelloggTheWaffleHaggler
We got a pug mix breed, he is super healthy. No breathing issues at all.
TrueNorthernLights
Does he snore at all?
KingKelloggTheWaffleHaggler
Not snore, but he makes goofy noises cause he sleeps with his head against things. Just normal dog noises
supersomatic
then kill the ones you see
koops
Don't let this guy near a special needs school!
teenageasshat
Mate you put 2 and 2 together and got lemons
DrBreadbin
Can I kill the pugs with the lemons?
Denturedog
I'm sure it could be done
battlepants
You realize that there is a difference between forcing more to be made and allowing the existing ones to exist, right?
supersomatic
If breeding pugs is cruelty, then their existence is cruel. How then can sparing them be merciful? Its contradictory.
TrueNorthernLights
So let's not find a genetic cure for spina bifida and kill every child with it now. Sure.
battlepants
Not all pugs are in pain and/or have constant health issues. That needs to be judged in a case by case basis by a vet. But knowing full >>
battlepants
well the problems that the offspring will very likely have and breeding anyway is irresponsible and cruel.