This is what caused the president of the United States to call for their deaths. A bunch of military vets tell enlisted people they don't have to follow illegal orders, and the president of the United States throws a shitshow hissyfit and calls them seditionists and says they need to be prosecuted or dead... wow... just... wow.
Anyone outside of the US: It is unamerican to threaten and kill people who disagree with you? Really? Explain the last 70 years of US foreign policy. /sarcasm
Thank you Senator Elissa, this is a powerful stance and sentiment. As a native Michiganader (Who wants to come home, but stuck due to costs) I both salute you, and am proud of my home state.
Schumer in the background, already preparing to suggest a compromise with Trump. Maybe just execute half of them? No? Okay, then we give up our demands.
Trump was grateful they allowed him to deflect from the Epstein files. He is a master of this craft. He knows if he keeps calling reporters piggies, MBS a great guy, and threatening to kill senators, you will all move on from the files.
Just a general reminder. When Obama was President for his first term the Republicans all agreed to reject every single proposal regardless of what was in it. Obama in response offered to host a super bowl party at the Whitehouse and invited all of them to join. No one showed up. He did not go to Social Media afterward and call them all names and threaten them. Know the difference between a real president and a lunatic crybaby man-child.
"i refuse to believe that we are going to use fear and intimidation against people we disagree with." This is what the US has always been about. It has just come home to roost now.
Hard to say its come home to roost, when its also been the norm in the states since the start. As an American who has actually studied American history, Trump is just repeating multiple incidents since the creation of the country. Things to think about - reasoning behind civil war, the way immigrants have always been treated, the way Natives have been treated, internment camps during WWII, NG firing on peaceful protest various times, the anti-civil rights movement/jim crow laws. The list goes on
I like Slotkin’s message here, and gladly support here when she does the right. I just wish she would finally wake up and make the right decisions to help the people of Palestine. No more American tax dollars to fund a genocide.
I hope this is a wake up call for all Democrats in office right now. We hear you loud and clear, but the people who need to year this are already getting ready to storm the capitol again.
Goddammit. NO, when will they get it? Threatening death against who we disagree with is *EXACTLY* who Americans are! Why do they keep appealing to the humanity of the American people when there is none?
Trump swore an oath of office twice, committing his loyalty to the Constitution. What do we do with those who abandon their oaths and our Constitution? That is the ONLY thing that gives them any authority to govern. If they have abandoned it, they have abandoned their right to govern. We need to declare this fact, and declare their authority invalid, and start governing without them. This is not a "difference of opinion," they have committed sedition. End this gruesome charade.
Not really. The republican party has shown that they are willing to let this country be taken over by a wannabe fascist dictator and have supported that. The other side doesn’t support anything like that…
Fuck ylu lassannn also get rid of nazi social media, and we gotta wait and see if dems win mid terms to even propose that, if anything you should be tweeting republicans bc rn thats who we would need. If dems try now it'll only strengthen GOP resolve behind trump. If a republican does it, it would potentially sway other GOP and the dems would be all over it. But if dems get midterms then it might not matter where GOP stands but it'll Def cause a ruckus
Most likely not at all. If any of them had the guts to say something they would have to be the minority that want to not juts go back to the status quo but undo the damage he has done and put i safety guards to prevent this level of corruption from ever happening again.
Screw this defeatist attitude. Its up to us to beat this. We need to continue speaking up and speaking out so that other people who share your attitude know that we can, and will, beat this.
Your representatives do not represent you. Or your interests. They only do what money and corporate wants them to do. Thats usually fucking people like you and me over
Oh, look! A former CIA executive, I'm sure she's a saint! Let me check a few of her recent declarations, just to make sure. Spoiler: she supports certain... regimes abroad. This is just a snake that got bit by another snake.
She might be "less bad", she's far from good. See who see supports. There's one of her interviews linked in another comment in this thread. If you agree with her, fine. If you don't, you are the one that got fooled.
Yeah? 'Refusing to believe' what you just saw with your own eyes? Saying 'this is beyond the pale' and moving on? Very little courageous about that. Not to speak of competence.
I didn't call her dumb, nor did I call her stupid, I called her incompetent. Those are quite different. My point is, disagreeing is not good enough anymore. The inaction of just putting out a video and moving on is not just complacent, it's dangerous.
Also, English is my second language. You're hereby invited to write your reply in your second language, if you have one.
I truly don't know who this message is for. Which of his supporters - people that are cool with an insurrectionist and probable pedophile being the face of our government - are going to care about simply calling for political violence? You might as well send him a very strongly worded letter.
The message is for those who have submitted to his threats and abuse and are marching in step. Those kissing his ring to get their own needs met. Those still playing "bipartisan cooperation" games because they think they're somehow being reasonable. It's a call to step away from standing obediently, passively, cooperatively on the wrong side of history.
I strongly disagree. As a country and politically, the Right has normalized the language of fear, intimidation, bullying, and outright hatred and it must stop. Attempting to stop it through additional violent language or acts will only make things worse. We must remain civil, and perhaps even more civil than our opponents. We will all lose if we devolve to violence in response to the Right.
That going to be pretty useless, but I disagree with 287 for a different reason. The message won't change the mind of his supporters,true, but it's still important to speak. To stand your ground and document it all. By itself it won't do much, but there is always power in truth, and unity can only come with communication.
Yeah, been part of that (getting DV for saying stuff like "don't literally and publicly relish someone's death, even if they're complete shit. All that's gonna do is paint target and piss people off." And, ironically, I actually disagree with the Sen here. Sedition and treason should absolutely be met with the highest force, whether that be execution or life in prison. The problem is the wrong people are being accused of those crimes. It's not simple disagreement, either, but a dictator's demand
So how do we stop the violence of the right is we won't meet them with violence when they control all of the levers of power? They control all of the violent and nonviolent means of getting out a message and controlling the people. What do we have left?
ColdCast
I feel so represented right now!
TapiocaMartini
This is what caused the president of the United States to call for their deaths. A bunch of military vets tell enlisted people they don't have to follow illegal orders, and the president of the United States throws a shitshow hissyfit and calls them seditionists and says they need to be prosecuted or dead... wow... just... wow.
DiracsDelta
Maga: stating the law is treason
DasBeaker
I will now always see trump as Lord Farquaad. I will now be in search of PS pictures to post for his belligerent stupidity when people post it.
boumboum34
Trump's becoming a danger to everyone, including MAGA congress members. Way past time to get rid of him. He is a national security threat.
thefar
Anyone outside of the US: It is unamerican to threaten and kill people who disagree with you? Really? Explain the last 70 years of US foreign policy. /sarcasm
whoopsidaz
I would definitely vote for her for president.
Imadethisaccounttopost
Thank you Senator Elissa, this is a powerful stance and sentiment.
As a native Michiganader (Who wants to come home, but stuck due to costs) I both salute you, and am proud of my home state.
rotodisc
Cool words, Slotkin. Got any actions in mind?
Sincerely,
Someone who actually did vote for you
mercyPandaRunner
Schumer in the background, already preparing to suggest a compromise with Trump. Maybe just execute half of them? No? Okay, then we give up our demands.
TaiPan87
Trump was grateful they allowed him to deflect from the Epstein files. He is a master of this craft. He knows if he keeps calling reporters piggies, MBS a great guy, and threatening to kill senators, you will all move on from the files.
Cilvaa
aoshistark
Just a general reminder. When Obama was President for his first term the Republicans all agreed to reject every single proposal regardless of what was in it. Obama in response offered to host a super bowl party at the Whitehouse and invited all of them to join. No one showed up. He did not go to Social Media afterward and call them all names and threaten them. Know the difference between a real president and a lunatic crybaby man-child.
downsouthfarm
"i refuse to believe that we are going to use fear and intimidation against people we disagree with." This is what the US has always been about. It has just come home to roost now.
LittleAzie
Hard to say its come home to roost, when its also been the norm in the states since the start. As an American who has actually studied American history, Trump is just repeating multiple incidents since the creation of the country. Things to think about - reasoning behind civil war, the way immigrants have always been treated, the way Natives have been treated, internment camps during WWII, NG firing on peaceful protest various times, the anti-civil rights movement/jim crow laws. The list goes on
Wapusk
Fascism is colonialism turned inward.
Xerxes4242
This just looks desperate. They should be reminding them that the current regime and "I was just following orders" can't protect them after he's gone.
RaekinTheBored
I like Slotkin’s message here, and gladly support here when she does the right. I just wish she would finally wake up and make the right decisions to help the people of Palestine. No more American tax dollars to fund a genocide.
omgdontdie
Asking an ex cia spook to not support israel is like asking fish to fly.
RaekinTheBored
That’s a fair point.
RetrogradeLlama
Authoritarian Fascism and the Banana Republic intensify.
tinyfootprints
Did he say what charges he would file? The last time I checked, there was still no law against stating an opinion. Do we still live in the USA?
Debadguy
I hope this is a wake up call for all Democrats in office right now. We hear you loud and clear, but the people who need to year this are already getting ready to storm the capitol again.
Ls1965
Well said!
OperatorWay
"tHe RaDiCaL LeFt NeEdS tO tOnE dOwN tHeIr rHeToRiC"
CharlesTooke
I.like.her.
KerryCoder
Goddammit. NO, when will they get it? Threatening death against who we disagree with is *EXACTLY* who Americans are! Why do they keep appealing to the humanity of the American people when there is none?
Gnakenheimer
I mean... [looks at the US's history]. Yeah... IDK, I guess it's different when they are threatening other Americans
Cosmicfisherman
Agreed
yesdearmetoo
https://media4.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1d3lnYzRsaXRuZWR4czBueG1tcWN1M2ltNmFlbWVlc3RqNjV6NnNleSZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/l4q8cJzGdR9J8w3hS/200w.webp
rubypilgrim
Trump swore an oath of office twice, committing his loyalty to the Constitution. What do we do with those who abandon their oaths and our Constitution? That is the ONLY thing that gives them any authority to govern. If they have abandoned it, they have abandoned their right to govern. We need to declare this fact, and declare their authority invalid, and start governing without them. This is not a "difference of opinion," they have committed sedition. End this gruesome charade.
ImHereToGetDownvotes
Our country is a fucking embarrassment. Trump should be immediately removed and no Republican should ever hold office again, period.
naomiMoonBeast
Unfortunately we'll end up with the same party under a different name
KittyKlimt6
Wellwellwell if that ain't a step in the same direction
naomiMoonBeast
Saying a party shouldn't be a party anymore it's not the same as threatening execution
Whirlednews
Not really. The republican party has shown that they are willing to let this country be taken over by a wannabe fascist dictator and have supported that. The other side doesn’t support anything like that…
Copperbrat
Lassannn
I tweeted to multiple democrats that they need to impeach his fat ass for what he said.
funone77
He's been impeached.....twice....
philmoregraves
Fuck ylu lassannn also get rid of nazi social media, and we gotta wait and see if dems win mid terms to even propose that, if anything you should be tweeting republicans bc rn thats who we would need. If dems try now it'll only strengthen GOP resolve behind trump. If a republican does it, it would potentially sway other GOP and the dems would be all over it. But if dems get midterms then it might not matter where GOP stands but it'll Def cause a ruckus
Appollon
I agree with everything except that Dems will be all over it. Due to the recent and not so recent events. I completely lost faith in them.
lezgetfukkinreal
Fuuuuuck you lassannn but also thank you!
sonicthemariomasterchief
https://media2.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1bjRrN215aDhoNnEyajJmN2hsNjZrbXBiMXl1aDN6NnFndWlueDh5NiZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/lTB6FKY1fmAZhhv1En/200w.webp
WarThunderLeakedMySpecs
Fucking beat me to it.
ThrowAwayAcct0000
They've already impeached him twice. It doesn't do anything.
ma8e
Impeaching Trump makes as much difference as thought and prayers.
whoatherebigfella
How did they respond to that?
andrewgrr1
With some grandstanding and fundraising prolly.
Elonth
Most likely not at all. If any of them had the guts to say something they would have to be the minority that want to not juts go back to the status quo but undo the damage he has done and put i safety guards to prevent this level of corruption from ever happening again.
RooGryphon
Cute that you think ...that...will do anything or hold anyone accountable...
do7rkb5n
Screw this defeatist attitude. Its up to us to beat this. We need to continue speaking up and speaking out so that other people who share your attitude know that we can, and will, beat this.
YouRadicalizedMe
It tiring
harmsebamse
If every voter did it, it may have an impact
RooGryphon
Your representatives do not represent you. Or your interests. They only do what money and corporate wants them to do. Thats usually fucking people like you and me over
glovelyday
For those who may have forgotten, this is what an articulate, sane, competent, courageous politician looks and sounds like.
JurgenWindcallerz
Wait so shouting and spraying-tanning aren’t part of healthy dialogue??
NightOwlRally
This is what a decent human being sounds like.
4etherling
Can't they sue for death threats or slander, ect?
doctorId
MAGAs watching that video
RilynnRae
Much better then when she was asked about the genocide. That was some rough television.
CharlesTooke
Link?
RilynnRae
https://youtu.be/AFrEJTFbSTc?si=JQTq5ouvQyQWJbra
tootuncommon
She did misuse a reflexive pronoun.... So idk. Both sides /s
archiker7
Thank you for that. I spit my coffee while reading that comment.
tootuncommon
I think it's my best comment in a long time. Glad I learned grammar for no other reason than jokes :)
The11thPlague
Oh, look! A former CIA executive, I'm sure she's a saint! Let me check a few of her recent declarations, just to make sure. Spoiler: she supports certain... regimes abroad. This is just a snake that got bit by another snake.
glovelyday
Don't be an idiot, the snake in the White House is biting you, fool.
The11thPlague
She might be "less bad", she's far from good. See who see supports. There's one of her interviews linked in another comment in this thread. If you agree with her, fine. If you don't, you are the one that got fooled.
Soggybathroomsock
Yeah? 'Refusing to believe' what you just saw with your own eyes? Saying 'this is beyond the pale' and moving on? Very little courageous about that. Not to speak of competence.
doctorId
leechdemon
She's dumb and stupid because she doesn't agree with someone who's breaking the law?
I want to accuse you of some AI slur, but the grammar isn't even good enough. Just... failure on all levels. 🤦♂️🤷♂️
Soggybathroomsock
I didn't call her dumb, nor did I call her stupid, I called her incompetent. Those are quite different. My point is, disagreeing is not good enough anymore. The inaction of just putting out a video and moving on is not just complacent, it's dangerous.
Also, English is my second language. You're hereby invited to write your reply in your second language, if you have one.
jtre287
I truly don't know who this message is for. Which of his supporters - people that are cool with an insurrectionist and probable pedophile being the face of our government - are going to care about simply calling for political violence? You might as well send him a very strongly worded letter.
Copperbrat
The message is for those who have submitted to his threats and abuse and are marching in step. Those kissing his ring to get their own needs met. Those still playing "bipartisan cooperation" games because they think they're somehow being reasonable. It's a call to step away from standing obediently, passively, cooperatively on the wrong side of history.
drduffer
I strongly disagree.
As a country and politically, the Right has normalized the language of fear, intimidation, bullying, and outright hatred and it must stop.
Attempting to stop it through additional violent language or acts will only make things worse. We must remain civil, and perhaps even more civil than our opponents. We will all lose if we devolve to violence in response to the Right.
johnblood616
You can brag about how civil you were while they march us into ovens.
HowlingRollercoaster2
That going to be pretty useless, but I disagree with 287 for a different reason. The message won't change the mind of his supporters,true, but it's still important to speak. To stand your ground and document it all. By itself it won't do much, but there is always power in truth, and unity can only come with communication.
GlutenFreeCocaineWaffles
Huh, some people on imgur must have mellowed out recently. I've gotten used to this kind of comment getting yelled at and downvoted on here.
DarkDuskBlade
Yeah, been part of that (getting DV for saying stuff like "don't literally and publicly relish someone's death, even if they're complete shit. All that's gonna do is paint target and piss people off." And, ironically, I actually disagree with the Sen here. Sedition and treason should absolutely be met with the highest force, whether that be execution or life in prison. The problem is the wrong people are being accused of those crimes. It's not simple disagreement, either, but a dictator's demand
Callynd
So how do we stop the violence of the right is we won't meet them with violence when they control all of the levers of power? They control all of the violent and nonviolent means of getting out a message and controlling the people. What do we have left?
Copperbrat
We outnumber them.
Callynd
Even if we do, our electoral system is biased against the majority.
Copperbrat
I think we're quickly moving past the election system to solve this country's current issue.