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PacManDreaming
If the Hulk was smart, he'd just bribe Captain Marvel to beat the crap out of Superman.
HumanFromPlanetEarth
Isorikk
Pretty sure Superman wins with cold breath, but I guess that's not as interesting an answer
isthisjunkmail
That was really entertaining.
LespritDeLescalier22
Doot
MuffinProof
https://youtu.be/Wjltw84scEg
TheOvy
ALWAYS LINK THE SOURCE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5bpOwpL8HA
TheWoodsAreVile
Eh.. I leave it to you guys.
TheOvy
JayDeeDubs
I'm not sure where Hulk's momentum comes from in half of this animation, or exactly why his hand clap attack seems to be more damaging than a punch
HonestlyNobody
Yeah whoever made this thought Hulk could spam his Thunderclap thing, and that it worked for propulsion when there was zero atmosphere. Without air, it is just omnidirectional energy release
Carchomatic
Not sure what energy is released without air, maybe heat? Even with air, its still omnidirectional. No way he can direct that with any precision whatsoever
Flightmaster101
Supes can survive in space, hulk can't. These fights are way to complex. Supes would just yeet him into the sun. Fight over.
gnomedeplume
Would he do that though? Superman, also known as Clark Kent raised by a kindly adoptive family to be a good person?
Flightmaster101
I mean... it's a dumb hypothetical in the first place. And no one seems interested in how characters would actually act, only the sparring. Why would hulk pick a fight with supes in the first place?
Why do they use supes/hulk in this situation when either ultraman or red hulk would make way more sense?
thrashingcows
https://media2.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTY1YjkxZmJleDI1ZnFjY251Y2Q4cGFpb3Y2YmV0Zm43NG1qNWZsZHc2YTNjdWhndiZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/6MMxtt269tcAM/200w.mp4
Spanky44
In a serious fight superman flies the hulk into the sun and its over.
gnomedeplume
except Superman wouldn't do that. Omniman, Homelander, Injustice Superman maybe
having him kill anyone shows a fundamental misunderstanding of who he is as a person, even this cartoon does that somewhat.
gnomedeplume
it's concerning there's a lot of discussion of who would really win this fight but nobody asking "Would Superman drive his fist through someone's chest to reach his heart to do so?" or "Would he very almost murder him with heat vision after he's turned back into a normal human?"
Also why is Guile from Street Fighter in his thoughts? What's up with that?
captainfakeypants
Superman is so dumb. Just fly at the sun where Superman is strongest and Hulk is weakest, all while avoiding massive damage to earth.
gnomedeplume
Superman isn't dumb, this character drawn and animated to resemble Superman is dumb
actual well written superman would have figured out a way to solve the "indestructible rampaging monster" problem without damaging the planet and having the shit beat out of him for 15 minutes
just4thelolz
The constant scowl is a good indicator that this is no Superman I'm familiar with.
jackal12345
Both going all out Superman would win, a laser eye lobotomy is the great equalizer.
gnomedeplume
Superman, famous for having no respect for the well-being of anyone, even his enemy
jackal12345
Womp womp someone hasn't read Injustice... or even seen that Justice League episode where the evil versions of themselves come over to the main universe and evil superman lobotomizes Doomsday. Or read Crisis on Infinite Earths and saw how many heroes Superboy Prime butched.
gnomedeplume
womp womp I have, you're missing the point that this is supposed to be the actual Superman, with all the values and morals we know him to value
there's nothing here to establish that this is one of those corrupt versions and if he is supposed to be that, without establishing it, that is known as Bad Writing.
jackal12345
Womp womp, I said both going all out like when Superman killed Doomsday not the superman who continually pulls his punches with Metallo and Parasite. And, like any good reader know, Superman doesn't have a no kill code
gnomedeplume
yeah him saying that to the joker doesn't mean anything, and you started out saying Superman could end this with a heat vision lobotomy, A THING HE WOULD NEVER FUCKING DO
Raoul97533
I am not an expert, but from what I know about both characters at their strongest, the fight would just go on forever and break the whole world into pieces...
Zalm
Depends. World Breaker Hulk could possibly destroy his whole realm. But the entire point of Hulk is he is limitless. "The angrier he gets, the stronger he gets. And his capability for anger is infinite." So there is no real "strongest point" for Hulk. Superman, had the one time where he became a god, after meditating in the heart of a star for like a million years, essentially becoming a god. So who knows what he is capable of in that form,
Zunderfeuer
Was that golden age Superman? I am not up to date with Superman comics
Zalm
https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Kal-El_(DC_One_Million)
"Superman Prime suddenly reappeared from the sun after fifteen thousand years of absorbing solar energy and crushed the tyrant sun once and for all with the Green Lantern ring that Solaris had inadvertently given to him.
The time he spent in the sun magnified his already great power to presumably infinite levels. His strength and other coun"tless abilities he gained also rose to unknown levels from the time he spent in the Sun.
mcphearless
*Smashes toys together adolescently*
gnomedeplume
literally
AnonsAndMinions
So you have Supes, who is solar powered, and Hulk who will literally just get stronger and stronger the more fuckin' pissed he gets. Idk, as far as realism to both characters it was spot on. I'd say technically Hulk is stronger because his strength doesn't rely on the sun, whereas if Supes was somehow cut off from the sun during the fight he'd get fucking owned / ripped to pieces by Hulk.
gnomedeplume
that's their powers, not their characters, especially Superman who would try to come up with a solution that doesn't involve murder or widespread destruction, this feels incredibly off for h
AnonsAndMinions
I think the vids stick to that well though, as at first he's just trying to beat him, not kill/damage him. Then as the fight goes on he realizes that Hulk isn't fucking around and he needs to give it more gas / try to kill him?
gnomedeplume
jamming his fist into someone like that still doesn't feel very Superman even when it gets serious
barbarian818
Supes usually fights smarter than that though.
Snezko
nah superman vs hulk is a pointless fight, hulk is powerful but he's nothing special & thanos proved that by literally destroying hulk with just hand to hand combat arts... now unless superman just stands still & does absolutely nothing & even hold back his power so he can be affected for hulk to even be able to move him around, otherwise 1 punch hulk is gone... so nah sorry, don't give me comparisons that are pointless & obvious to a toddler...
ariania
this is why i dont enjoy the new direction of the hulk, with Doc hulk and Maestro. I enjoy the earlier version when its all brute and no brain. Hulk is so powerful that he defeated multiple heroes and villains having the cosmic power. The version of hulk we are seeing here would defeat superman :)
CorvidPrime
VERY cool, but they did do Hulk vs Superman before… They also did Superman vs He-Man. Twice… No wait… Three times. Forgot the original 1980’s one.
But my autistic rambling aside: Yes, I would watch a full length animatic of Superman vs Hulk. Awesome AF.
NicronusPrime
Superman vs He-Man happened again a couple of years ago, though it was part of the Injustice timeline.
PotatoPirateTheThird
i think they also did ninja turtles and batman. i think that even got a movie
CorvidPrime
Yep.
NothingPrince
There was 3 heman vs superman?I have the last one from 7ish years ago and I remember the 80s one off comic when skeletor control superman to fight heman. Which one did I miss
CorvidPrime
There was the 80’s one, Masters of the Universe vs DC Universe, and Injustice vs Masters of the Universe.
NothingPrince
Cheers I forgot he kills the clone then the bad superman
CorvidPrime
I’m working my way back through all the MotU comics. I own them all, and I have read almost all of them (If it has a Trade, I’ve read it). It’s the only comic series that I actively collect. Mostly because it’s the only one I can AFFORD to collect.
NothingPrince
I had the heman ones and the marvel vs dc. But my fav comic shop didn't survive covid. 😢
OddJobb
They did Hulk vs Superman back in the 90s, Amalgam Universe. I think Supes won.
xavierjmole
If I recall, that was a condition for DC agreeing to do the joint project: Superman would win his fight, regardless of opponent. And I think he won by immobilization, not knockout.
AndrlCh
Yes, but it was the time when it was the "unified" Hulk/Professor Hulk, who is weaker than the standard savage Hulk and I believe without the "as he gets angrier he gets stronger" ability.
CorvidPrime
Superman only won because he identified early on that Hulk DID get stronger the more he fought, and so immobilized him almost immediately.
AndrlCh
Looking at MvsDC/DCvM #3, there is no indication for that fight that he identified that Hulk gets stronger as he fights, just that he realized he could go all out on him from the get go and not risk killing him. He even says "He took everything I had, and almost stood up to it." Also, looking it up, this was the Hulk form who once he got angry enough, he turned into a weak Savage Banner. If it has been Savage Hulk, it might have been closer to the Doomsday fight.
CorvidPrime
Guess my memory is faulty. I haven’t read it since they came out…
NothingPrince
Yep I still have it
FetteredJuvenescence
Unified Hulk isn't weaker, per se. He's still as powerful as he is angry. World War Hulk was "Professor Hulk", and he handed every Earth hero including Sentry their asses, and was powerful enough that he could have destroyed the entire planet by accident. He's just rarely that angry.
pelleMovieHero
Saitama would wreck them both
gnomedeplume
Saitama would realize he's missing a sale at the grocery store and leave the fight before it expires
pelleMovieHero
Hahaha. Truth. He wouldn't realize he was even in a fight
SilverFoxChaser
Send him to space to get rid of his leverage and oxygen. Superman's only weakness is his stupidity.
DisUsernameAmsDildos
They did go into space. Hulk didn't seem to need oxygen for some reason.
JayDeeDubs
Or anything with which to generate thrust/momentum
SilverFoxChaser
plot armor rears its head again!
Zunderfeuer
Hulks cells are literally powered by Gamma energy, not needing to breath is at this point as believeable as Superman being powered by solar energy
gnomedeplume
#13 this is the only thing in this post that feels genuinely like Superman, everything else comes across as aggressively masturbatory
Megadestructo
WTF is going on with Superman's leg here?
DisUsernameAmsDildos
It's AI slop! It's all AI now! /s
gnomedeplume
it's not AI but it might be the reason AI is so bad at art
DisUsernameAmsDildos
/s means end sarcasm... I know it's not AI
PotatoPirateTheThird
You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like.
NorrinxRadd
Thus is a pretty good fight
gnomedeplume
but a pretty poor superman story
Foxplay
Depends on what versions you use of each character.... there is some very weak depictions of Supes that would loose. And Hulk at his strongest could just keep getting revived via the Green door.... That being said some of the stronger versions of Supes I don't think even Hulk would stand a chance hes always been the very definition of an "overpowered" character
gnomedeplume
well that's the great thing about fictional characters, you get to decide what they're capable of doing
PotatoPirateTheThird
i'm imagining hulk vs the 1930s superman who couldn't even fly. holy shit superman is getting close to 100 years old
Macetheace50
What I don't understand is how Thanos defeated The Hulk?
I guess you can't beat the only most powerful thing in the Whole Universe!
A Hollywood Movie Script!
monkeyslikebananas
Didn’t Thanos already have the power stone at the time?
gnomedeplume
here's something that might help you understand: these are all fictional characters with made up powers and can be made to do whatever the writers want
Carchomatic
Yeah I hear this a lot and I don't get it. Thanos is just more powerful than the Hulk...full stop
DocFunkenstein
Uh, how exactly did Hulk come flying back after Supes punched him into orbit?
AceBandito
He anger.
Niagaran
Even in the first few seconds, he's launched into the air and comes back from the same point a second later. Did he fucking bounce back off of a cloud??
Snooj
He did a Hulk Fart. It provides propulsion even with no atmosphere.
LariCheltsy
Punched the moon, bro
nojustsayitdont
Flatulence.
MarcUK
A great big stinky fart!
Level21Magikarp
I guess nuclear clap?
gIoblobbIobgob
So do I need a prescription for that or is there something over-the-counter
Level21Magikarp
Worse yet you need a alter-ego and costume.
DropDrop
Yeah, an why did super man keep throwing him when he could just keep flying with him till earth was out of sight. Hulk doesn't have super distance vision, so once earth was out of sight, super man could just fly off and hulk would be clapping around aimlessly in space.
masarian
Seems this version can create explosions by clapping. Jargon jargon gamma energy blah blah science yards yards nonsense.
Dakksys
I think the idea is he claps so hard atoms fuse. And despite people complaining about no air, there is loose hydrogen even in the not-complete vacuum of space. Or whatever shit was sticking to his hands.
Carchomatic
You don't think that's reaching just a bit? I get it, comics ignore physics, but really? A clap in space?
Dakksys
The clap was just as dumb on Earth in my opinion. You either accept the writers explanation and accept it both places, or you reject it and don't. The shit stuck to his hands probably masses several times more than the little bit of air he would be crushing.
thatlamer
Thunderclap, which has on occasion been written stronger than any nuke.
Molvanian
And wouldn't work without air.
Carchomatic
Wow, the excuses here are epic. Hydrogen atoms????
Sen7ryGun
Specifically works without air because he's clapping hard enough to split the atoms of his own body.
Iullabee
technically, you can create explosions just by hitting two pieces of whatever together, doesn't need air. so i guess he just beat his own meat.
Molvanian
So he's blowing his own hands up. Look man, I'm not looking for physics accurate comic books. But this stuff reminds me of the Superfriends, and I don't want to see writers solving all the problems by having someone spin, or have Batman breathing in space again. I don't want to go down that road again.
Dakksys
Space isn't completely empty. He could be fusing random hydrogen atoms and whatever shit is still sticking to his very dirty hands.
JackIsLacking
He clapped. Which makes no fucking sense, there's no atmosphere to "clap" and cause an explosion in.
But also, 2 super heroes, one from another planet with Laser eyes and another that turns into an ever-strengthening green monster, that only hits his limit when the writers run out of imagination.
So yeah.... he clapped his big ol booty cheeks and made it back to earth.
Any more questions?
Dakksys
Space isn't completely empty. He could be fusing random hydrogen atoms and whatever shit is still sticking to his very dirty hands.
Madara1389
Of course it doesn't make any sense; the video creator had to pull a reason why Superman didn't win through one of the myriad of ways he could/would have out of his ass because he started with the intent of Hulk winning the fight.
Zalm
Thats the thing about Hulk. He cant be beaten. Its possible to completely disintegrate him, and win, but Supes doesnt have that ability. His heat vision is too localized to completely eradicate every cell of the Hulk. Hulk can survive the removal of vital organs, brain and heart, at the same time, only to come back stronger for it. The only way to beat hulk, is non violence. Thats the interesting part about him, normal, violent means isnt how you stop the most violent thing in the universe.
Wasnbo
Yes, but also no, but also yes and no. Hulk can just return back to life, completely intact, through the Green Door, indefinitely. On the other hand, Superman's heat vision CAN be spread out enough that he can cover Hulk's whole body, and there are almost certainly a bunch of other methods Supes can Superman Hulk into oblivion.
Madara1389
Hulk *can* be beaten and *has* been beaten numerous times over his publication history.
The Thing & Thor have beaten him multiple times. Spider-Man & Captain America teamed up and KO'd him once. Spider-Man, Thanos, Silver Surfer, Wolverine, Abomination, Namor, Juggernaut, Sentry, and Red Hulk have all beat him.
You're doing nothing but glazing Hulk's best showings while ignoring that things like World Breaker Hulk are the exception, not the norm.
DanCodyComics
You'll note that those are all heroes save for Red Hulk, and Banner canonically has the ability to nerf the Hulk if he tries very hard. At the end of the day it's about pathos; Superman is strong but is thematically compelled to find stronger guys all the time. The hulk, on the other hand, only works as a dramatic figure if he really is the strongest there is.
PotatoPirateTheThird
just throw him into to the sun.
Sen7ryGun
Hulk can clap hard enough to detonate his own cells. He doesn't need atmosphere it's literally a nuclear explosion made by smashing the atoms of his skin together so hard they split and explode.
PotatoPirateTheThird
A fission explosion requires specific fissile material, a critical geometry and mass, and conditions for a prompt self-sustaining neutron chain reaction. If the Hulk somehow met those conditions, the fission chain would run in microseconds and he’d be vaporized almost instantly. It would theoretically be possible to clap so hard you ablate skin to fuel a plasma explosion which can propel mass in the vacuum of space, but the hulks "thunderclap" doesn't come close to the speed required.
Moriarte
It's almost like he's a comic book character and they can make him capable of doing anything they want.
Literally all super powers break physics once you do even a tiny bit of math.
Infinite strength? Breaks physics.
Laser eyes? Breaks physics.
Super speed? breaks physics.
PotatoPirateTheThird
i actually pretty much said that further down in the comment chain. 👍
PotatoPirateTheThird
couldn't fit this in the first post
Zunderfeuer
I know you are argumenting just for funs sake, but since a couple of years the Hulks origin is tied to an entity called ''The one below all'' which if you don't know is the antithesis of The one above all, which is basically Marvel God equivalent of Jack Kirby one of the ''inventers'' of the Marvel comics. So if the power scale wasn't already ever changing upwards, it is now above every measure.
PotatoPirateTheThird
but the hulk has physics defying powers like regeneration. so he could propel himself in space by ripping off his arm and throwing it over and over. but if he can break the laws of physics like that then i guess rules don't really apply so why not make nuclear explosions by clapping?
wingedcougar1993598
Would probably make more sense for him to turn his bowels into a rocket motor, practically speaking.
Moriarte
Stop trying to make sense of whimsy.
PotatoPirateTheThird
Metalsmith21
Fun but a hulk clapping his hands in space isn't going to do anything. Supes just throws him off the elliptic plane and keeps an eye on him while waiting for him to turn into Banner.
Rheios
I figured by the time he was in space his clap wasn't hyper-compressing air anymore but actually detonating his hands in nuclear explosions, seeing as how he's a giant gamma bomb with legs [US Godzilla by way of Frankenstein's monster in a way].
Metalsmith21
If HULKs own hands are that frail then he can't hope to damage superman.
Rheios
Or he's slamming his hands together that hard. Also I don't know that he was significantly damaging Superman here. Superman seemed more tired from how hard he was having to work to hurt hulk as much as suffering any harm from the Hulk. Hulk might get there if they kept fighting, but I imagine Earth wouldn't hold for that.
Carchomatic
But what is actually doing teh detonation? Nuclear explosions are a very specific thing. You want a fission bomb? You need to split Uranium or Plutonium, in VERY specific ways. You want fusion? You need very specific types of hydrogen. Otherwise the only energy transfer here is kinetic (the clap) to heat
Rheios
I mean, Hulk's "gamma" powers are a pretty fanciful applications of Nuclear explosions. In this case I assume he's just charging his hands with that nonspecific "gamma" energy and slamming them together to mimick a nuclear explosion. Completely unrealistic but the character was created in '62 and the Devil Hulk variant can actually produce "gamma bursts" as an ability. So "radiation magic" ends up being the answer to "what is doing the detonation".