Oct 22, 2016 3:55 PM
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gyllilian
X-Men cinematic universe is messed up. Like the actual comics now where anything can be true in the next movie if they wanted it to be.
Br0doSwaggins
Deadpool is right, these timelines are confusing.
dietderpsy
I hate these bizarre X-men story lines, there is plenty of excellent material from the comics and cartoons they could use.
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RippyTheAligatorJr
I was going to make a massive post about the story & timeline from what I read online and know about the Old Man Logan comic if y'all want?
PieDestroya
Do it
yesigetitivape
Is that Joel
HighSlayerRalton
First Class actually remained in the same continuity as all of the preceding films, it was Days of Future Past that changed the timelines.
Though X-Men Origins: Wolverine did have some real weirdness with Sir Patrick and Deadpool, when retroactively analysed.
Jsweet62
Please please please dont mess this one up
PaulyBallnuts
they cant even make it what its based on. i just hope they make a solid movie!!
Veggisaurus
It's another future that will eventually get reset after X-23 is sent to the past to change the future.
asadaburrito
hugh jackman would make a great JOEL if they ever made THE LAST OF US movie.
TheArmed501st
Soooo many wolvy movies it's ridiculous
RighteousIndigJason
I'd like to think of these movies as not really belonging in any particular continuity, and just being individual stories.
DerRattenfngerVonHameln
Different continuites can be assumed to be a stable iterations of timeloops within timeloops, so there are should be unstable as well.
GreenFox
This is the first I've heard Patrick Stewart is in this movie, so I finally saw the trailer. I'm so excited now.
jchansen
This can't take place in the OG Xmen timeline- that ended in DOFP, and it can't take place in new timeline, since the end that film is happy
iHaveNippleitis
So why does Prof. X have hair here(
CosmicKitten10
^*^POSIBLE SPOILERS^*^ (idk I'm just guessing)
I think professors gonna die because near the end of the trailer Logan's holding what looks to be a shovel and X-23 is comforting him
GiLIswhatIspend
I thought logan didnt age, he looks older
TheRadarTechnicianMatt
Consider the following: At the end of DOFP, Xavier explains what all has happened. This includes the new Apocalypse timeline. (1/2)
This movie takes probably in the 2030's or 2040's. All the mutants from the original trilogy are also alive. (maybe.) (2/2)
TheGlow
This is Logan as an old man, NOT Old Man Logan.
DiegolasDawg
Lelelell
veritas1980
@OP this is so far departed from old man logan that its not remotely the same story. Have you read the comic?
ApexAquilas
At the end of the movie, Xavier will know how to play a small flute
AstartesLibrarius
The Inner Light. Favorite all-time episode of TNG. https://youtu.be/pS98MygfoOE
ThePakistallion
Best episode of TNG ever. I salute you sir.
GetSchwifty
Show me picard's flute!
Perkunas687
Make now always the most precious time. Now will never come again.
UncomfortableTruths
YouWinTheInternetToday
Raguleader
DID I FREAKING ASK YOU FOR THESE FEELS?!
Damos692
it doesn't matter if you asked you are going to be force feed them
BigVigilante
Worse yet, unless her movie appearances take place in a post mutant dystopia, this movie will waste X-23 for any future films.
DICEM4N
Pretty sure that's what this movie is about, but idk man
bixby66
Hugh Jackman's last run as Wolverine and he never once wore the damn suit. Hugh probably channeled that frustration into his performance.
plot twist he wears it for five mins in this one at the end
I mean at the end of DOFP he body snatches his new future self. They could have just written the costume in.
oh yeah forgot that
Yeah left him at a really interesting point and in a brand new X-universe and then they fucking jump 30 years in the future....great.
FairlyFreshFritter
It's about the same time as days of future past, but with the altered past. Yet the mutants are still dead.
BurlRavenscroft
I think this takes place one year after the happy ending of Days of Future Past. One year! Come on, Fox.
iamthisguy247
Also seems to connect to The Wolverine where he lost his immortality.
Alexanderhelios
You can throw a pebble into a river and cause a ripple but the river still flows in the same direction
MundaneFinality
Also the island is literally a cork and the flash-sideways was purgatory.
Until I see the movie, I'm going to assume they will answer the big questions.
If you think the timelines in the X-Universe are bad, try figuring out the timeline for the Terminator franchise.
surprisemotherfuckers
Just read this and marvel of what should have been /a/mtSDC
GoofedAllOverYourFace
It's one continuous loop, there are never big enough changes to actually stop either skynet's or John Conners' birth
Well, there are some pretty significant changes, but time keeps rubber banding to keep getting to the same place by different paths.
Significant, not big
HumanFlag
A few years back I read (not an official source, just a deep analysis of time travel) that no matter what they do, Skynet has to happen.
Predestination Paradox. Whatever you change in the past has to allow for you to have a reason to travel back in time. (1/2)
Unless the time travel rules allow you to create an alternate timeline, but you return to your own present. (2/2)
Them trying to prevent it and succeeding just changes it again to another outcome where it does happen. It's a cycle
Attacker732
Similar theory to trying to stop Hitler or World War 2 with time travel. Tensions were too high to avoid SOMETHING happening. 1/2
CrazyCatLadyWithNoCat
Why are they dead? (illiterate looser asking)
NotQuentinTarantino
I'm not sure if they are going to be following the comics storyline. SPOILER.
But Logan gets tricked by Mysteryo and murders the X-Men thinking they were villians.
mustardtitsthemurdermasterbrown
Just my fan theory but I think because professor X is very old now and possibly suffering dementia maybe he will affect Logans mind 1/
2/ like mysterio and have him kill the xmen
hedcase
Didn't Jean kill Professor X in the 2nd or 3rd one? Then, there was that dumb after credits scene where he went in a different body.
yes
So....... this totally makes sense then.
not within the movies tho with all the fluxes. just rewatch em, youll see
delpharseven
It pleases me that after all these years they still had to use makeup to make Sir Patrick look old enough.
ABlastFromYourPast
Hey, congrats on making top comment!
BewareOfBOB
Not everyone was born old like Charles Bronson.
InitHello
He will never age. In the year 2500 Emperor Patrick I will sign humanity's first peace treaty with another civilization.
CaptDeadpool
Yea they released a picture of him in make up before they dropped the trailer
GreetingsPrograms
This... The man is gonna live forever
HalTheMisinterpretivePornStar
The first episode of TNG came out the year I was born. I'm 30 now. Not a day has passed for old Paddy Stewart
thegingersnapped
The first episode of TNG came out 1987. Noone born in 1987 is 30. You are a liar, a fool, or... a time traveler! Tell us who is president!
Would you have believed them if they told you?
Wasn't it in 86? My bad. Though I am actually a time traveller I just happen to be one born in 86
modicumjones
Or Wesley and the Traveller.
DickMangoes
Or he gave an approximate age.
I really just wanted to make the time traveling joke, given topic.
It's going to be rated R. Thank you Ryan Reynolds and Tim Miller.
If you watch the UK trailer it's got some far more violent scenes in it.
tr26
Given the comic, there's no way it could come out with less. I'm glad they paved the way.
TheWorldEndsWithYou
Sucks Tim Miller left Deadpool 2
LordTonyStarkofWinterfell
I know!!
Hopefully we finally get to see Xavier drop some F bombs.
PhillStew
This gives me a striking idea... deadpool cameo???!?!?
likeasixoutoften
There were rumours but idk if I want him in this movie even though I love him. He doesn't fit the tone at all
But he loves wolferine. So a fanboy episode would be amazing
Thank you Dredd for showing the world r rated comic flicks are awesome
I forgot about Dre...dd.
Oh you :D
madcow747
This comment here
I mean Blade 1 and 2 were pretty great
I never consciously linked that Blade was a comic. Even after helping clear out my grandfather's attic, and finding Blade comics.
AztecLizard
Totally.
Furiou5
The Netflix shows too; I love that they are allowed to get to the nitty gritty of the Marvel Universe.
KharnApproves
That stairwell fight scene in season two of daredevil was amazing
gyllilian
X-Men cinematic universe is messed up. Like the actual comics now where anything can be true in the next movie if they wanted it to be.
Br0doSwaggins
Deadpool is right, these timelines are confusing.
dietderpsy
I hate these bizarre X-men story lines, there is plenty of excellent material from the comics and cartoons they could use.
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[deleted]
RippyTheAligatorJr
I was going to make a massive post about the story & timeline from what I read online and know about the Old Man Logan comic if y'all want?
PieDestroya
Do it
yesigetitivape
Is that Joel
HighSlayerRalton
First Class actually remained in the same continuity as all of the preceding films, it was Days of Future Past that changed the timelines.
HighSlayerRalton
Though X-Men Origins: Wolverine did have some real weirdness with Sir Patrick and Deadpool, when retroactively analysed.
Jsweet62
Please please please dont mess this one up
PaulyBallnuts
they cant even make it what its based on. i just hope they make a solid movie!!
Veggisaurus
It's another future that will eventually get reset after X-23 is sent to the past to change the future.
asadaburrito
hugh jackman would make a great JOEL if they ever made THE LAST OF US movie.
TheArmed501st
Soooo many wolvy movies it's ridiculous
RighteousIndigJason
I'd like to think of these movies as not really belonging in any particular continuity, and just being individual stories.
DerRattenfngerVonHameln
Different continuites can be assumed to be a stable iterations of timeloops within timeloops, so there are should be unstable as well.
GreenFox
This is the first I've heard Patrick Stewart is in this movie, so I finally saw the trailer. I'm so excited now.
jchansen
This can't take place in the OG Xmen timeline- that ended in DOFP, and it can't take place in new timeline, since the end that film is happy
iHaveNippleitis
So why does Prof. X have hair here(
CosmicKitten10
^*^POSIBLE SPOILERS^*^ (idk I'm just guessing)
CosmicKitten10
I think professors gonna die because near the end of the trailer Logan's holding what looks to be a shovel and X-23 is comforting him
GiLIswhatIspend
I thought logan didnt age, he looks older
TheRadarTechnicianMatt
Consider the following: At the end of DOFP, Xavier explains what all has happened. This includes the new Apocalypse timeline. (1/2)
TheRadarTechnicianMatt
This movie takes probably in the 2030's or 2040's. All the mutants from the original trilogy are also alive. (maybe.) (2/2)
TheGlow
This is Logan as an old man, NOT Old Man Logan.
DiegolasDawg
Lelelell
veritas1980
@OP this is so far departed from old man logan that its not remotely the same story. Have you read the comic?
ApexAquilas
At the end of the movie, Xavier will know how to play a small flute
AstartesLibrarius
The Inner Light. Favorite all-time episode of TNG. https://youtu.be/pS98MygfoOE
ThePakistallion
Best episode of TNG ever. I salute you sir.
GetSchwifty
Show me picard's flute!
Perkunas687
Make now always the most precious time. Now will never come again.
UncomfortableTruths
YouWinTheInternetToday
Raguleader
DID I FREAKING ASK YOU FOR THESE FEELS?!
Damos692
it doesn't matter if you asked you are going to be force feed them
BigVigilante
Worse yet, unless her movie appearances take place in a post mutant dystopia, this movie will waste X-23 for any future films.
DICEM4N
Pretty sure that's what this movie is about, but idk man
bixby66
Hugh Jackman's last run as Wolverine and he never once wore the damn suit. Hugh probably channeled that frustration into his performance.
Damos692
plot twist he wears it for five mins in this one at the end
bixby66
I mean at the end of DOFP he body snatches his new future self. They could have just written the costume in.
Damos692
oh yeah forgot that
bixby66
Yeah left him at a really interesting point and in a brand new X-universe and then they fucking jump 30 years in the future....great.
FairlyFreshFritter
It's about the same time as days of future past, but with the altered past. Yet the mutants are still dead.
BurlRavenscroft
I think this takes place one year after the happy ending of Days of Future Past. One year! Come on, Fox.
iamthisguy247
Also seems to connect to The Wolverine where he lost his immortality.
Alexanderhelios
You can throw a pebble into a river and cause a ripple but the river still flows in the same direction
MundaneFinality
Also the island is literally a cork and the flash-sideways was purgatory.
FairlyFreshFritter
Until I see the movie, I'm going to assume they will answer the big questions.
Raguleader
If you think the timelines in the X-Universe are bad, try figuring out the timeline for the Terminator franchise.
surprisemotherfuckers
Just read this and marvel of what should have been /a/mtSDC
GoofedAllOverYourFace
It's one continuous loop, there are never big enough changes to actually stop either skynet's or John Conners' birth
Raguleader
Well, there are some pretty significant changes, but time keeps rubber banding to keep getting to the same place by different paths.
GoofedAllOverYourFace
Significant, not big
HumanFlag
A few years back I read (not an official source, just a deep analysis of time travel) that no matter what they do, Skynet has to happen.
Raguleader
Predestination Paradox. Whatever you change in the past has to allow for you to have a reason to travel back in time. (1/2)
Raguleader
Unless the time travel rules allow you to create an alternate timeline, but you return to your own present. (2/2)
HumanFlag
Them trying to prevent it and succeeding just changes it again to another outcome where it does happen. It's a cycle
Attacker732
Similar theory to trying to stop Hitler or World War 2 with time travel. Tensions were too high to avoid SOMETHING happening. 1/2
CrazyCatLadyWithNoCat
Why are they dead? (illiterate looser asking)
NotQuentinTarantino
I'm not sure if they are going to be following the comics storyline. SPOILER.
NotQuentinTarantino
But Logan gets tricked by Mysteryo and murders the X-Men thinking they were villians.
mustardtitsthemurdermasterbrown
Just my fan theory but I think because professor X is very old now and possibly suffering dementia maybe he will affect Logans mind 1/
mustardtitsthemurdermasterbrown
2/ like mysterio and have him kill the xmen
hedcase
Didn't Jean kill Professor X in the 2nd or 3rd one? Then, there was that dumb after credits scene where he went in a different body.
PaulyBallnuts
yes
hedcase
So....... this totally makes sense then.
PaulyBallnuts
not within the movies tho with all the fluxes. just rewatch em, youll see
delpharseven
It pleases me that after all these years they still had to use makeup to make Sir Patrick look old enough.
ABlastFromYourPast
Hey, congrats on making top comment!
BewareOfBOB
Not everyone was born old like Charles Bronson.
InitHello
He will never age. In the year 2500 Emperor Patrick I will sign humanity's first peace treaty with another civilization.
CaptDeadpool
Yea they released a picture of him in make up before they dropped the trailer
GreetingsPrograms
This... The man is gonna live forever
HalTheMisinterpretivePornStar
The first episode of TNG came out the year I was born. I'm 30 now. Not a day has passed for old Paddy Stewart
thegingersnapped
The first episode of TNG came out 1987. Noone born in 1987 is 30. You are a liar, a fool, or... a time traveler! Tell us who is president!
delpharseven
Would you have believed them if they told you?
HalTheMisinterpretivePornStar
Wasn't it in 86? My bad. Though I am actually a time traveller I just happen to be one born in 86
modicumjones
Or Wesley and the Traveller.
DickMangoes
Or he gave an approximate age.
thegingersnapped
I really just wanted to make the time traveling joke, given topic.
RighteousIndigJason
It's going to be rated R. Thank you Ryan Reynolds and Tim Miller.
iamthisguy247
If you watch the UK trailer it's got some far more violent scenes in it.
tr26
Given the comic, there's no way it could come out with less. I'm glad they paved the way.
TheWorldEndsWithYou
Sucks Tim Miller left Deadpool 2
LordTonyStarkofWinterfell
I know!!
Raguleader
Hopefully we finally get to see Xavier drop some F bombs.
GreetingsPrograms
PhillStew
This gives me a striking idea... deadpool cameo???!?!?
likeasixoutoften
There were rumours but idk if I want him in this movie even though I love him. He doesn't fit the tone at all
PhillStew
But he loves wolferine. So a fanboy episode would be amazing
HalTheMisinterpretivePornStar
Thank you Dredd for showing the world r rated comic flicks are awesome
RighteousIndigJason
I forgot about Dre...dd.
HalTheMisinterpretivePornStar
Oh you :D
madcow747
This comment here
TheWorldEndsWithYou
I mean Blade 1 and 2 were pretty great
Attacker732
I never consciously linked that Blade was a comic. Even after helping clear out my grandfather's attic, and finding Blade comics.
AztecLizard
Totally.
Furiou5
The Netflix shows too; I love that they are allowed to get to the nitty gritty of the Marvel Universe.
KharnApproves
That stairwell fight scene in season two of daredevil was amazing