Is curing patients a sustainable business model?

Jun 29, 2022 11:56 PM

Ramp8nt

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There’s no money in curing people just look how many cold medicines there are on the shelves at the pharmacy

3 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

This is why antibiotics are not a high priority. It's more profitable to treat an affliction (many $$$), than to cure it (one-time $).

3 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Johnny Mnemonic has entered the chat.

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Fucked.

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Well, looks like America is no longer a SUBLIMINAL mind-fuck...or a bodily fuck...or just anything but fucked all over the damn place. GMFS.

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

No, let them die, so you'll have all the money in the world and it won't be worth anything because there will be no one else alive.

3 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

"Is getting rid of these fucks a sustainable humanitarian model?"

3 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 0

How can we aid humanity? Specifically the subset of humanity who are our shareholders.

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Why do people upvote current event articles from 4 years ago? Why do people repost them? Ugh

3 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

Because Imgur is almost as bad about blindly believing things that support their bias as Republicans are.

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

This is the new tech that can cure Long Covid/Vagus nerve dysfunction.

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

No, but then again that’s not the point douchebag

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Someone should ask them "is your continued existence nesscary for humanity to progress? No? stfu then."

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Capitalism baby.

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Is this not common knowledge

3 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 2

It’s much more complex than it seems, but they did find that developing a cure reduces profit potential.

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Is throwing bankers from roofs a sustainable model?

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

And this is why capitalism isn't the best model for health care.

3 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 1

It’s not like we are going to run out of sick people to cure. There are 8 billion people on the planet, so do the math.

3 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Logical question for a “for profit” company to be asking. But this is precisely why medical shouldn’t be for profit.

3 years ago | Likes 23 Dislikes 1

That’s what GS was asking: does a cure cut profits? They found it does, but they don’t weigh in on what should be done with that conclusion.

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Logical question for an ethical person to be asking as well. Because ignoring it, if it's a problem, isn't a solution.

3 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Yeah, no. Past time humanity took medical research and development out of the hands of investors and just paid for it directly as needed.

3 years ago | Likes 115 Dislikes 2

I believe NIH is the largest funder of med research which makes it more infuriating that discoveries end up privatized.

3 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I thought the government was the largest funder.

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

The NIH is the government

3 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Didn't understand the initialism. Now I realize it's "National Institute of Health".

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Exactly. The less power and decisions we give these rich assholes, the more we, the actual power behind the economy, can progress.

3 years ago | Likes 19 Dislikes 0

b b b but da INOVASHUN

3 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Yes as a healthy person is more able to work. And a working person is more able to spend on other goods and services.

3 years ago | Likes 65 Dislikes 2

But to clarify: Are you indentured and what's your ARR? /s

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Yes, but if you only treat the symptoms and not the cause you can keep the person paying for drugs, literally creating a drug habit.

3 years ago | Likes 23 Dislikes 1

You can also foist payment onto the government through disability, thus allowing you access to wages and taxes.

3 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

I think they mean is it more profitable for them specifically, not in general.

3 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Hospice care may be more lucrative. Especially if you can keep them lingering. Euthanasia needs to be made legal for those that want it.

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Always thought it would be. If you cure cancers and stuff, people will get much older. Older people= more disease= more meds

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

People in perfect health continue working and have more monney to spend and pay taxes.

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I like mulching my problems. Whenever possible.

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

CaPiTaLiSm BrEeDs InNoVaTiOn

3 years ago | Likes 28 Dislikes 2

So does war...

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

It breeds new and exciting ways to stagnate and make sure resources are scarce even when they don't have to be.

3 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 1

Yes it does, but it wastes a lot of resources to do it.

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Article link and a couple notable snips -> https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/11/goldman-asks-is-curing-patients-a-sustainable-business-model.html

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It's this last one that invalidates the click bait title. They just give the generally wise advice of "don't put all your eggs in one basket

3 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Yup; let’s focus on common issues, especially those with genetic links, that we can rely on being propagated with each generation

3 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

As Chris Rock said "the money ain't in the cure, it's in the medicine"

3 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 1

"can't come in to work, my aids is actin up today!"

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I'm gonna be generous and assume this was a question they answered in the report stating why it is good business, because that's still bad.

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

/2 like, it shouldn't matter whether it's good business or not

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Capitalism is not a sustainable model

3 years ago | Likes 210 Dislikes 3

Need to yeet those a holes at speed itensifies

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

but it will continue to destroy until it is stopped, so it is for all systems.

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

See exhibits U, S and A.

3 years ago | Likes 19 Dislikes 0

Nono, ever-increasing consumption of finite resources and ever-accelerating wealth disparity can definitely go on forever.

3 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

We didn't have sustainable system since migratory hunter gatherers and maybe some pre Colombian areas.

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Tagged as current events, and this article is from 2018.

3 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 0

The issue presented is just as current news today as it was in '18.

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 3

yeah, it's rage bait.

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

iirc this title is clickbait too, the answer was "yes"

3 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

Thank you. Their solutions involved developing cures for multiple illnesses, to diversify to afford to keep curing diseases.

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I kinda figured that'd be the case. It's a very common structure for papers. You ask a charged question, then give the "good" answer

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

it's good to have proper research to back up that answer too

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Indeed

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I'm not shocked but I've been nauseated for decades

3 years ago | Likes 412 Dislikes 0

I remember when this came out and it's a critique of the industry assumption that best business practices make for better healthcare

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

The implication isn't to stop trying to cure people, it's to change the business model to provide incentive for long term health

3 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

As always, progress happens despite capitalism, not because of it.

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I bet they have a pill for that, but the side effects may make you need even MORE pills.

3 years ago | Likes 30 Dislikes 0

Baffling. If you get headaches that aren't migraines you probably dehydrated. Light beer fixes that. Still got headaches? Get a new job

3 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

As an ex-nauseated for decades myself, have you tried systematic nasal irrigation?

3 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

If that's fancy talk for nose pickin'

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Not really

3 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Spare me your cold, dead, vacant glazed gaze

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