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c2zvgsVillain
There’s no money in curing people just look how many cold medicines there are on the shelves at the pharmacy
CP7212
This is why antibiotics are not a high priority. It's more profitable to treat an affliction (many $$$), than to cure it (one-time $).
Newbiticus
Johnny Mnemonic has entered the chat.
TheMightyMoto
Fucked.
Ink41d0
Well, looks like America is no longer a SUBLIMINAL mind-fuck...or a bodily fuck...or just anything but fucked all over the damn place. GMFS.
AnOceanOfStars
No, let them die, so you'll have all the money in the world and it won't be worth anything because there will be no one else alive.
mewzoo
"Is getting rid of these fucks a sustainable humanitarian model?"
Imadethisaccounttopost
DC Animation called it - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mP6uEQ3rExQ
TektronixTDS360
How can we aid humanity? Specifically the subset of humanity who are our shareholders.
thedorkitect
Why do people upvote current event articles from 4 years ago? Why do people repost them? Ugh
KevynDietz
Because Imgur is almost as bad about blindly believing things that support their bias as Republicans are.
NewtGinGrinch
This is the new tech that can cure Long Covid/Vagus nerve dysfunction.
https://bigthink.com/health/vagus-nerve-stimulation/
Coruxus
No, but then again that’s not the point douchebag
grandestgrandeur
Someone should ask them "is your continued existence nesscary for humanity to progress? No? stfu then."
Badfisch
Capitalism baby.
HellsHegemony
Is this not common knowledge
Tarmaccian
It’s much more complex than it seems, but they did find that developing a cure reduces profit potential.
Skizzlesnap
Is throwing bankers from roofs a sustainable model?
ImmaCatImmaSexyCat
And this is why capitalism isn't the best model for health care.
LoadedBakedPotatoes
It’s not like we are going to run out of sick people to cure. There are 8 billion people on the planet, so do the math.
Sidewaysgts
Logical question for a “for profit” company to be asking. But this is precisely why medical shouldn’t be for profit.
That’s what GS was asking: does a cure cut profits? They found it does, but they don’t weigh in on what should be done with that conclusion.
barnwolf
Logical question for an ethical person to be asking as well. Because ignoring it, if it's a problem, isn't a solution.
realrealluckless
Yeah, no. Past time humanity took medical research and development out of the hands of investors and just paid for it directly as needed.
bizzybanana
I believe NIH is the largest funder of med research which makes it more infuriating that discoveries end up privatized.
NotSomoneElse68
I thought the government was the largest funder.
The NIH is the government
Didn't understand the initialism. Now I realize it's "National Institute of Health".
Exactly. The less power and decisions we give these rich assholes, the more we, the actual power behind the economy, can progress.
NaughtButOne
b b b but da INOVASHUN
eppykaze
Yes as a healthy person is more able to work. And a working person is more able to spend on other goods and services.
muckamuckamuck
But to clarify: Are you indentured and what's your ARR? /s
h4p10
Yes, but if you only treat the symptoms and not the cause you can keep the person paying for drugs, literally creating a drug habit.
glitterdemon
You can also foist payment onto the government through disability, thus allowing you access to wages and taxes.
TedDansoninthedark
I think they mean is it more profitable for them specifically, not in general.
DocWino
Hospice care may be more lucrative. Especially if you can keep them lingering. Euthanasia needs to be made legal for those that want it.
ScienceMAN1
Always thought it would be. If you cure cancers and stuff, people will get much older. Older people= more disease= more meds
People in perfect health continue working and have more monney to spend and pay taxes.
theangryjanitor
I like mulching my problems. Whenever possible.
UnhelpfulAnswers
CaPiTaLiSm BrEeDs InNoVaTiOn
StrandedonEarth
So does war...
channelranger
It breeds new and exciting ways to stagnate and make sure resources are scarce even when they don't have to be.
Thajurriesexcuesed
Yes it does, but it wastes a lot of resources to do it.
MileHighLivin
Article link and a couple notable snips -> https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/11/goldman-asks-is-curing-patients-a-sustainable-business-model.html
cyrusthevyrus
It's this last one that invalidates the click bait title. They just give the generally wise advice of "don't put all your eggs in one basket
TheEmeraldProphylactic
Yup; let’s focus on common issues, especially those with genetic links, that we can rely on being propagated with each generation
LBBV
As Chris Rock said "the money ain't in the cure, it's in the medicine"
HellIsRoundTheCorner
"can't come in to work, my aids is actin up today!"
JhericFury
I'm gonna be generous and assume this was a question they answered in the report stating why it is good business, because that's still bad.
/2 like, it shouldn't matter whether it's good business or not
omegabritton
Capitalism is not a sustainable model
PicassoCT
Need to yeet those a holes at speed itensifies
AkujiMalice
but it will continue to destroy until it is stopped, so it is for all systems.
llortamai
See exhibits U, S and A.
ButtblasterMcAssmaster
Nono, ever-increasing consumption of finite resources and ever-accelerating wealth disparity can definitely go on forever.
PunIshErnest
We didn't have sustainable system since migratory hunter gatherers and maybe some pre Colombian areas.
starlitspine
Tagged as current events, and this article is from 2018.
4vie
The issue presented is just as current news today as it was in '18.
yepitspuck
yeah, it's rage bait.
whyexactly
iirc this title is clickbait too, the answer was "yes"
Thank you. Their solutions involved developing cures for multiple illnesses, to diversify to afford to keep curing diseases.
Deadmanwalkn
I kinda figured that'd be the case. It's a very common structure for papers. You ask a charged question, then give the "good" answer
it's good to have proper research to back up that answer too
Indeed
I'm not shocked but I've been nauseated for decades
wormfood
I remember when this came out and it's a critique of the industry assumption that best business practices make for better healthcare
The implication isn't to stop trying to cure people, it's to change the business model to provide incentive for long term health
InTangier
As always, progress happens despite capitalism, not because of it.
annonymouse211
I bet they have a pill for that, but the side effects may make you need even MORE pills.
Baffling. If you get headaches that aren't migraines you probably dehydrated. Light beer fixes that. Still got headaches? Get a new job
dobroweigh
As an ex-nauseated for decades myself, have you tried systematic nasal irrigation?
If that's fancy talk for nose pickin'
Not really
Spare me your cold, dead, vacant glazed gaze
c2zvgsVillain
There’s no money in curing people just look how many cold medicines there are on the shelves at the pharmacy
CP7212
This is why antibiotics are not a high priority. It's more profitable to treat an affliction (many $$$), than to cure it (one-time $).
Newbiticus
Johnny Mnemonic has entered the chat.
TheMightyMoto
Fucked.
Ink41d0
Well, looks like America is no longer a SUBLIMINAL mind-fuck...or a bodily fuck...or just anything but fucked all over the damn place. GMFS.
AnOceanOfStars
No, let them die, so you'll have all the money in the world and it won't be worth anything because there will be no one else alive.
mewzoo
"Is getting rid of these fucks a sustainable humanitarian model?"
Imadethisaccounttopost
DC Animation called it - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mP6uEQ3rExQ
TektronixTDS360
How can we aid humanity? Specifically the subset of humanity who are our shareholders.
thedorkitect
Why do people upvote current event articles from 4 years ago? Why do people repost them? Ugh
KevynDietz
Because Imgur is almost as bad about blindly believing things that support their bias as Republicans are.
NewtGinGrinch
This is the new tech that can cure Long Covid/Vagus nerve dysfunction.
NewtGinGrinch
https://bigthink.com/health/vagus-nerve-stimulation/
Coruxus
No, but then again that’s not the point douchebag
grandestgrandeur
Someone should ask them "is your continued existence nesscary for humanity to progress? No? stfu then."
Badfisch
Capitalism baby.
HellsHegemony
Is this not common knowledge
Tarmaccian
It’s much more complex than it seems, but they did find that developing a cure reduces profit potential.
Skizzlesnap
Is throwing bankers from roofs a sustainable model?
ImmaCatImmaSexyCat
And this is why capitalism isn't the best model for health care.
LoadedBakedPotatoes
It’s not like we are going to run out of sick people to cure. There are 8 billion people on the planet, so do the math.
Sidewaysgts
Logical question for a “for profit” company to be asking. But this is precisely why medical shouldn’t be for profit.
Tarmaccian
That’s what GS was asking: does a cure cut profits? They found it does, but they don’t weigh in on what should be done with that conclusion.
barnwolf
Logical question for an ethical person to be asking as well. Because ignoring it, if it's a problem, isn't a solution.
realrealluckless
Yeah, no. Past time humanity took medical research and development out of the hands of investors and just paid for it directly as needed.
bizzybanana
I believe NIH is the largest funder of med research which makes it more infuriating that discoveries end up privatized.
NotSomoneElse68
I thought the government was the largest funder.
bizzybanana
The NIH is the government
NotSomoneElse68
Didn't understand the initialism. Now I realize it's "National Institute of Health".
grandestgrandeur
Exactly. The less power and decisions we give these rich assholes, the more we, the actual power behind the economy, can progress.
NaughtButOne
b b b but da INOVASHUN
eppykaze
Yes as a healthy person is more able to work. And a working person is more able to spend on other goods and services.
muckamuckamuck
But to clarify: Are you indentured and what's your ARR? /s
h4p10
Yes, but if you only treat the symptoms and not the cause you can keep the person paying for drugs, literally creating a drug habit.
glitterdemon
You can also foist payment onto the government through disability, thus allowing you access to wages and taxes.
TedDansoninthedark
I think they mean is it more profitable for them specifically, not in general.
DocWino
Hospice care may be more lucrative. Especially if you can keep them lingering. Euthanasia needs to be made legal for those that want it.
ScienceMAN1
Always thought it would be. If you cure cancers and stuff, people will get much older. Older people= more disease= more meds
ScienceMAN1
People in perfect health continue working and have more monney to spend and pay taxes.
theangryjanitor
I like mulching my problems. Whenever possible.
UnhelpfulAnswers
CaPiTaLiSm BrEeDs InNoVaTiOn
StrandedonEarth
So does war...
channelranger
It breeds new and exciting ways to stagnate and make sure resources are scarce even when they don't have to be.
Thajurriesexcuesed
Yes it does, but it wastes a lot of resources to do it.
MileHighLivin
Article link and a couple notable snips -> https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/11/goldman-asks-is-curing-patients-a-sustainable-business-model.html
MileHighLivin
MileHighLivin
cyrusthevyrus
It's this last one that invalidates the click bait title. They just give the generally wise advice of "don't put all your eggs in one basket
TheEmeraldProphylactic
Yup; let’s focus on common issues, especially those with genetic links, that we can rely on being propagated with each generation
LBBV
As Chris Rock said "the money ain't in the cure, it's in the medicine"
HellIsRoundTheCorner
"can't come in to work, my aids is actin up today!"
JhericFury
I'm gonna be generous and assume this was a question they answered in the report stating why it is good business, because that's still bad.
JhericFury
/2 like, it shouldn't matter whether it's good business or not
omegabritton
Capitalism is not a sustainable model
PicassoCT
Need to yeet those a holes at speed itensifies
AkujiMalice
but it will continue to destroy until it is stopped, so it is for all systems.
llortamai
See exhibits U, S and A.
ButtblasterMcAssmaster
Nono, ever-increasing consumption of finite resources and ever-accelerating wealth disparity can definitely go on forever.
PunIshErnest
We didn't have sustainable system since migratory hunter gatherers and maybe some pre Colombian areas.
starlitspine
Tagged as current events, and this article is from 2018.
4vie
The issue presented is just as current news today as it was in '18.
yepitspuck
yeah, it's rage bait.
whyexactly
iirc this title is clickbait too, the answer was "yes"
cyrusthevyrus
Thank you. Their solutions involved developing cures for multiple illnesses, to diversify to afford to keep curing diseases.
Deadmanwalkn
I kinda figured that'd be the case. It's a very common structure for papers. You ask a charged question, then give the "good" answer
whyexactly
it's good to have proper research to back up that answer too
Deadmanwalkn
Indeed
theangryjanitor
I'm not shocked but I've been nauseated for decades
wormfood
I remember when this came out and it's a critique of the industry assumption that best business practices make for better healthcare
wormfood
The implication isn't to stop trying to cure people, it's to change the business model to provide incentive for long term health
InTangier
As always, progress happens despite capitalism, not because of it.
annonymouse211
I bet they have a pill for that, but the side effects may make you need even MORE pills.
theangryjanitor
Baffling. If you get headaches that aren't migraines you probably dehydrated. Light beer fixes that. Still got headaches? Get a new job
dobroweigh
As an ex-nauseated for decades myself, have you tried systematic nasal irrigation?
theangryjanitor
If that's fancy talk for nose pickin'
dobroweigh
Not really
theangryjanitor
Spare me your cold, dead, vacant glazed gaze