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#titanic #submarine
KareemCheezItz
‘We’re sinking fast, Captain!!’ - Bop It!!! Twist It!!!!
TrialOrc
Controlling my submarine with this
IWantToHugEveryCat
I AM THE CONTROLLER of my titanic submarine with this:
marthafarquar
BlackTrashTiger
Perfzilla
Controlling the submarine with this:
tarquinious
Controlling a submarine with this
KafkasKarma
He might know some guy who could help with directions
Zapathasura
Controlling a submarine with this:
elcee50
I'M DRINKING ROLLING ROCK *ON* THE ROLLING ROCKER!
Degarafarat
Maybe this works
Kommadore
It should soon.
potatoardvarkhybrid
Controlling a submarine with this:
elbowdeepinawhateverthatis
HeatFromFire
brianingram
Controlling my titanic submarine with this -
WhatTheHellIsGoingOnBob
Still got my Merlin.
WoopDeFrickenDoo
I had one. I never learned what I was supposed to do with it.
WellWellWellLookWhoItIs
That’s what the instruction manual was for.
kojenk
uh oh
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humblekito
The game is called Iron Lung
AtmaDarkwolf
Can I ask how a massive dump of the 'almost exactly the same but ever so slightly different' memes were spawned? What is it referring to?
cyberimg
Everybody focusses on the controllers, but I also heard there was no manual override release for ballast and only a single means of communication.
proracing53
Also no gps
Fedotia
Meanwhile me in serious tech, told that my third layer of security isnt enough because that-thing-that-cannot-happen could compromise it if it happened in a very specific way.
WoofBastard
There are a lot of other posts about the MANY sketchy safety precautions (or lack thereof). This post is just collecting the controller jokes.
wobblecopterrrr
Soo they turned on the computer and it decided to update..
LucidAftermath
That would be my fear... that or the AA batteries in the controller going dead.
thinkybrainpains
controlling mine with this....
lljkstonefish
How's it working out?
Nizedk
Well it sucks.
thinkybrainpains
it suuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrre does
elbowdeepinawhateverthatis
Please, it’s the Dreamcast’s Samba de Amigo maracas or nothing.
WaxyNips
Fuck yeah, this is what I was looking for!
Retrikaethan
Controlling the submarine with this:
Sidewaysgts
Novices
RowanUnderwood
Most of these are actually more competent controllers than what they did have . .
tfussy
Ironically I think the US navy does use a variant of the Xbox controller in some capacity on some of their subs
Kommadore
https://www.geekwire.com/2017/u-s-navy-swapping-38000-periscope-joysticks-30-xbox-controllers-high-tech-submarines/
NarratesTheDarkerStory
Controlling my Titanic Sub with this
Vanonym
What a weird vacuum cleaner design
jonalexassblast
We need to descend about 100 meters for the next mark. Roger *hnnnnnggg*
NarratesTheDarkerStory
"didn't catch that, can you repeat that last?" I mean, yeah, but you gotta give me a few minutes to recover.
BishlamekGurpgork
Gonna be honest, if it works, it works, and every bit of Logitech gear I've used has been more resilient to my abuse and lasted more years than almost any brand I've ever used.
ThreeLineRifle
So nobody remembers the Steel Battalion controller. Shame.
elbowdeepinawhateverthatis
Was literally just thinking about that. Then again, just watched James’ Channel showing it off, too.
Racealistic
That thing was epic and expensive as hell.
JediUrsa
Dude, that's overkill
lljkstonefish
beat me to it
Silkyninja1
Did they forget spare batteries? I hate it when my batteries conk out mid-game
FrogBotherer
Controlling my titanic submarine with this:
EggFooYung
Booyah, Steel Battalion Controller.
ImgurNeedsMoreSmartass
Ironically, the drumming may be the one thing to get them out of there
Righteousdew
He will knock four times, then you will die.
archon325
They've said they heard knocking. They never said it was coming from INSIDE the submarine.
marsgoose
My money is on that BBQ smoker getting crunched at the moment they lost comms.
positiveleroy
They did hear banging yesterday, but it has since stopped.
CeruleanFox
This comment is the perfect punchline to finishing this dump. And you lived up to your username.
metroid2
Send in the Blue Man Group
Wubbalubbadubdubb101
They have been using sonar and hydrophone for the past day. Sonar is not worming just because of the debris field and rocks and they're not hearing any relative banging (giggity giggity) coming from downtown there.
Temzilla
I believe relative banging is (sweet home alabama) not (giggity giggity).
BeardyBomb
No diggity?
SourK
new report that they are hearing banging in 30 minute intervals. they think it might be the sub. not a guarantee but it's something to work off of.
ImSoUserFriendly
Drums, drums in the deep. We cannot get out. A shadow moves in the dark, we cannot get out.
naughtydawg19858
A MINE!
Fairemont
Sunamonster
It’s not a mine… it’s a tomb
ThisIsntMyActualName
Controlling a submarine with this:
ventingaccount
I love how this dump simultaneously created fantastic memes around this event but also provided a nostalgic trip down memory lane for me 🥰
iambutton812
My submarine works using only "Doug" and "Faster" buttons.
AgentDoggit83
Kingstonboy
We spared no expense.
AstartesLibrarius
As a bonus, doubles as an emergency water ration. /s
Snuffdigit
I think they’re set on water mate :p
thinkybrainpains
Controlling a submarine with THIS
LTareyouserious
That's for a sub, not a submarine
inevermadeone
HandoB4Javert
BlackTrashTiger
I am the captain now...
LompHoofd
ThisGuyHere
OopsIMeanToFartButAPoopCameOut
You made me lol on a conference call. I really needed this. Thank you.
elbowdeepinawhateverthatis
This is beautiful.
spiceass9000
Ima need the name of that toy
thinkybrainpains
it has suction AND vibration and sold out after a user posted this review https://i.redd.it/xog4i02jx5831.jpg
thinkybrainpains
https://www.tracysdog.com/collections/best-sellers/products/og-pro2-clitoral-sucking-vibrator
spiceass9000
Good lord thank you
SoraHjort
Apparently the navy uses game pads for their subs as well. So is it really all that crazy/stupid?
DestianUnderscore
No, it's not. Just seems to be a lot of internet users first time to learn of common input devices like gamepads also being used for all kinds of machinery.
IlluminaBlade
I don't imagine the gamepads are responsible for steering a whole navy submarine.
Elnauriel
They interviewed a retired Navy captain on the radio yesterday. He said he didn't see any issue with using a gaming controller. The only thing he would suggest is having a few spares. Honestly, it's not a bad idea. Gaming controllers are designed to allow people to activate multiple features easily, with hundreds of thousands of hours of testing already completed. That's their whole reason for existing. Durability is the biggest issue.
davebeastly
Yeah I saw an interview that said the main issue with the controller was it's wireless if there's no wired back up solution it would be completely useless if the battery failed.
Elnauriel
Now that is dumb. I've been using the same two OEM SNES controllers since I got them in 1994. Four foot cord. In all that time, they've never failed me. I did splurge and buy a six foot extension cord for each. Good investment.
SoraHjort
probably about time to replace their membranes though. that rubber gets brittle with age, resulting in higher change of them tearing. Which causes buttons to stick or inputs to not read correctly.
Elnauriel
That's fair. I have disassembled them a few times and cleaned them out. Those special screw drivers are great for maintaining those vintage Nintendo consoles and hardware.
rooik14
I think the problem is it's obvious it's cheaply made and was just indicative of the cost-cutting they were engaging in.
WhatAreYouTalkingAboutEh
I don't think it was cost cutting, think of it more like Musk mentality
rooik14
Also Musk openly cuts corners to lower costs or outright refuses to pay his bills.
rooik14
The CEO is on record for saying that safety, after a certain point, is wasting money.
WhatAreYouTalkingAboutEh
well I agree with that, I'm not walking around with an airbag on me
rooik14
What professional guidelines say that you should? Not equivalent.
WhatAreYouTalkingAboutEh
and my shopping cart doesn't need active defence no matter what Bosnian ape says
dohcohv
The jokes are great, but many drones or remote controlled equipment use Xbox controllers since many people already have hours of experience with them, they are already well tested, and work well with windows.
Vendronica
Listen, the truth is something I learned in this process but it makes it even more absurd to me, tbh
Bloodsense
Xbox controllers are well built, dependable pieces of hardware. That Logitech controller, which I own, feels and works like a $30 dollar controller.
LehmanParty
My team rebuilt a DDR metal arcade pad and used a 360 controller since it's basically already USB-ready and mapped
RealScienceMan
Yea I don't know why we're hyperfixated on the one good decision on the sub.
Ninjainslippers
The dumb part isn't the design. It's rich people going to the bottom of the ocean for funsies. They did a FAFO. I'm just mad none of the space roller coasters have also resulted in disaster.
Jimbo64
To be fair, I would've gone with a wired controller for this type of operation.
bluerazzgummy
You mean the things that don’t kill their pilots if there’s any control issue? Haha
HedonistBeard
Which is why it's hilarious that they used a logitech knock-off. Seems like they saved a couple of bucks in all the wrong places.
TheCyberBob
They're also a heck of a lot cheaper than custom built controls for various devices. I read that a steering rig for a submarine used to cost upwards of $100k per yolk vs $40 for a good XBox controller.
NorfolkEnchantsmate
Wasn’t that a major plot point from the Robin Williams film Toys?
ChaseRedMoon
I think the main concern isn't that they used a controller. I think it's because they used the equivalent of a mad catz knock off.
brianingram
Why does this keep getting posted to these kinds of posts? Great - it's proven tech. Awesome. I get it. But if you see one of these utilized on a 737, I would bet a steak dinner it would give you pause. I understand the tech is "proven", but cables, pulleys, and hydraulics are even more provener. You don't need to keep carrying water for the asshat.
justhereforthedumps
Can’t we all agree the real joke is rich fucks dying? God, I hope an orca is responsible somehow.
Grenateh
This is far less complex than a jet aircraft
scr1bbl3
+1 for “provener”
alantosai
I, for one, am hugely in favor of using controllers in places that would otherwise have equally complex but less standard schemes. There's so, so much to lampoon in his harebraned water-coffin, not the least of which is the total lack of analog alternatives; using a controller to make controlling something easy doesn't immediately strike me as one of them.
getthismanabeer
Isn't there ballast release just limited to them tipping the sub a certain way by shifting inside it? Completely discounting the chance they could get stuck in an attitude that is unrecoverable to dump the ballast.
dohcohv
The lack of backups, marginal safety, history of designs that couldn't stand the forces required are way up there on the list. At least an Xbox controller can do what it was designed to do and would hold up okay in that environment.
dohcohv
Yes, a mass produced airframe is going to have custom controls because you can spread development costs over hundreds of airframes. Small production and experimental production will use proven, off the shelf parts to make the program economically feasible. A sub is going to use wired or wireless controls because routing cables and hydraulic lines through the pressure hull is a BAD idea. What's a cheap wireless controller that has been proven with decades of testing? An Xbox controller.
dohcohv
I'll throw in an example from about 20+ years ago before side by side off-roaders were widely available. My uncle built a side by side, welding his own roll cage, routing wiring, building control arms, etc. But he put a Honda Goldwing engine in in because no way in hell was he ever going to be able to design something better than Honda did. It also has a collapsible steering column and box from an S-10 for the same reason.
SomeDetroitGuy
When James Cameron built subs 20 years ago, he hired actual naval architects to design and build one and surprise! He didn't use a cheap, 13 year old knock-off controller and his sub didn't sink.
BishlamekGurpgork
Well, he probably also didn't take an uncertified sub down to 6K PSI.
DeeDoubleYu
Yeah 100% and ubiquitous controller tech is good for everyone. So much better than having to teach a new hire a super complex control system to do the exact same thing.
rickrickles
Honestly, how else would you expect to control an electronic sub? Cables an pulleys? This isn’t steam punk.
OxyEmphasisontheMoron
the logi controller is great but i cant think of any good reason that it had to be cordless.
EggFooYung
They gon die because the battery died on the controller.
MeanMisterClean
connection, and I can't have that on a boss fight. These people entrusted their lives to a gamepad I don't trust enough to play ER with. 2/2
MeanMisterClean
It's great? I have the exact same one, and if I'm playing something like a soulslike, I switch to wired, cause it frequently loses 1/2
ProfessorRectangle
Can you imagine piloting a reaper and your batteries die on the controller? It's like, "MOM, hurry!!! The Iraqis are getting away!" Meanwhile this 2 billion death machine is just lazily drifting over a herd of screaming humans.
dohcohv
Anything that goes through the pressure hull is a weakness. Wireless wouldn't have to. It's also cramped as it is and wires get in the way.
VodkaReindeer
Wireless would just go through the metal you say?
Elkarlo77
And water ? 2.4ghz is a frequenzy which is absorbed by H2O Atoms.
GoodKingFuzzwumps
Yeah but the people using the controllers to guide them aren't riding on the drones.
dohcohv
If I have to fly a drone I'm on and I have the choice between an Xbox controller and someone's first(or second) iteration of custom made controls, I'll take the Xbox controller in a heartbeat.
fredh67
Would it be better if they built the exact same functionality into a new controller, costing them many times more than just using a video game controller?
GoodKingFuzzwumps
Or an actual control console like normal submarines.
fredh67
It's not a submarine, it's a submersible, and there's no submersible store to go buy your consoles at - they will all be custom made. So if there's an existing piece of tech that works just fine, why reinvent the wheel?
GoodKingFuzzwumps
Because a deep diving submersible should be made from materials not bought off the shelf.
SomeDetroitGuy
You know what has absolutely been tested? The control systems used on actual subs. James Cameron commissioned two different subs built by actual professionals that worked VERY well much deeper than this and neither used a 14 year old knock-off wireless controller for piloting the vehicle.
dohcohv
They were also much more expensive. I'm also 99% sure the controller wasn't the reason it sank, the company had a history of using parts that weren't rated for the pressure and fired an employee when they spoke up.
Elkarlo77
It more likely that the batteries failed, not the controllers batteries. This Sub had a history of Electrical problems.
BishlamekGurpgork
So, XBox controllers, being implemented on Virginia-class vessels? Gotta be fair, I owned one of those once, and it looks like knockoff trash, but it endures like a beast. Only controller that lasted long enough that I upgraded from it before having a problem with it, in my cash-strapped youth.
Elkarlo77
A dedicated controllewr which will run for 100.000 hours without fault will cost around 1.000 - 2.000 USD. An Xbox Controller will run for 10.000 Hours without a fault. Buy every year a new Xbox controller. And have one Spare around.
BishlamekGurpgork
Yes, have a spare, of course. If a controller gives out you don't want to wait for Amazon to get back to gaming. But when you're going out a couple times every month, (I can't imagine they do daily dives,) I feel like 10,000 hours is enough.
Elkarlo77
Consumer Controllers aren't build for moist environments and will age over Time in such enviroments. So they are always on the clock. 2 new controllers per year are still cheaper. A dedicated controller needs refurbishment as well and you need spares as well.
SoraHjort
Even the Navy's subs use controllers as well. https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/18/17136808/us-navy-uss-colorado-xbox-controller
SomeDetroitGuy
They use wired Xbox controllers to control the periscope. They don't use wireless knock-off controllers to pilot the vessel.
gorramgomer
No, they use the expensive Thrustmasters.
dohcohv
It makes sense, many teens have hundreds of hours using controllers, why spend time and money training them on something custom made when you can just use something else that has billions already invested into its development. I've used brand new forklifts with modified 22re Toyota engines because it would take some serious cash and development time to match its reliability and price.
vcgetdown
I assure you they haven't spent billions on r&d for the controllers
dohcohv
The Xbox one controller had over 100mil in just R&D and that wasn't even tooling costs. The controllers have over 20 years of development time which includes investigating issues and ways to resolve them in the future. The only reason they don't cost more is because the sheer volume of sales.
5tradivariuS
yes ofc, but not a titan coffin for 5 people 3.7km underwater without any redundancy
pancreas
i believe it did have redundancy controls. it's just that, afaik they were also electronic and would have failed in a water leak
dohcohv
The rest of the sub was shit, yes. Building your own controller/controls without any experience is going to wind up very expensive and probably won't turn out as well as an Xbox controller anyways. Also you could just keep a second controller as a backup for very cheap, but this operation disregarded any backups anywhere.
minant
Among the issues with that thing, I would certainly put "doesn't use a fancy enough interface" way below things like "has no escape mechanism".
pancreas
needs more pointless buttons and switches to make the boomers happy.
Evi1Gav
It does have an escape mechanism - cut the ties to the weight. Once they are more than 25-30m below the surface, there's no such thing as an escape hatch, anything that can be opened at that pressure is a weakness waiting to break.
minant
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escape_trunk https://jmvh.o">pe_trunk">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escape_trunk https://jmvh.org/article/submarine-escape-and-rescue-a-brief-history-2/
DecapodianSaysWoopWoopWoopWoop
Problem is, the sub had no windows. Badum tss.
BishlamekGurpgork
thatlooksinfected
Problem is, maybe it did have a Window.
Green11ndys
Well they had view ports not rated for the pressure
BuickRiviera
I kinda feel like they might already be not very alive. But hopefully I’m wrong.
Richter12x2
They should know that ports rarely work as expected on an Xbox.
onlyhalfghost
yes, and then the pressure removed the window component
LaPotrilla
It had no windows?? How were they supposed to look at the Titanic then?
ID1746
It had a viewport, but a tiny one & not rated for deep ocean observing + toilet next to the viewport. You would watch the Titanic in the submersible on a (TV)screen with image provided by camera's.
LaPotrilla
🤦♀️ why not just stay on the surface and send cameras down?
ID1746
Beats me, especially when there's subs that actually have big windows: https://tritonsubs.com/subs/ Scroll to the Triton 13000, which is a glass bubble submersible specially made for visiting the Titanic wreck. Imo, when the first reports came out about the missing sub, I was imagining something like seen on that site, not a glorified sealed tube.
Canofminus
‘Badum tss’ was also the last thing they heard in the sub
Darkwell
"Imploding?! I'm a billionaire, how dare y-."