Aug 27, 2020 7:03 PM
LetsBuildSnowman
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walnussbaum
And then they're like: look, they would manipulate even that to give us the wrong impression - another proof for flat earth
Op010101
A turtles shell has a curve
diphenhydraminehcl50mg
(I don't know which one is the flat earth one)
tappersparty3
explain that flat earthers
YouEatYellowSnow
Sure, this makes sense.
baiin
Jokes: https://youtu.be/iYZbQIXoVMY
Undrave
When I went to Japan I saw the vast frozen wastes of the Canadian Arctic... majestic!
HenryLongfellowIII
It was very clever of the sphereists to work all this out before jets could take you over the North pole in a matter of hours.
ComradeGorbash
Want to get really fucked up? Depending on frame of reference, the top one is the straight line and the bottom one the curved.
shredder134
One of many things Stephenson has painless explained to me.
CoffeePleaseee
If they could read they’d be pissed
LosPer
moweener
So flat earthers are obi-wan? You don fucked up son!!!
TheyDontKnowAndYouCantTellEm
Flat Earthing >>> Shitposting. PROVE ME WRONG!
OrionRed
You didn't show me any proof, you just showed me a cartoon.
Tomdafunk
This topic is extremely interesting in topology :)
NoUserNamesLeftToChooseFrom
I detect flat earthers among us. Also, how do they know which way is down? How can they down vote something if there is no down?
IMustGrowUpReally
That's easy to explain, using the following conversion rate: - 1 bent km = 1.188 straight kms C'mon round earthers, open your minds!
FubarJunkie
That will cause them a shock: v
manulofdoom
they'll just call it fake news, as usual
nevergoingtogiveyouupnevergoingtoletyoudown
There's so many ways to make flat Earther's look stupid. I mean where's that edge of the world video guys?
Odballl
What happens when flat-earthers talk to hollow-earthers?
scuba7jb
erwanairone360
Burn it!
DeliciousMeatCurtains
All around the world lalalalalala
TheresnoDanaonlyZuul
Do they still exist or did they just switch to Qanon b.s and anti-mask?
They still do, but it's starting to die down.
simonsaysabunchofstuff
Flat earth model only falls apart if you show the same scenario in the southern hemisphere
Guidocat
There are a number of flat earth experiments "proving" it to be true and most of us couldnt explain why its wrong.
It's fun to laugh, but we could learn enough to refute the flat earth hypotheses instead and better ourselves.
ImGoingToHellinEveryReligion
sometimes I wish the earth was flat, so I could push the stupid ones from the edge.
destinychopsticks
I'm not a flat earther but even I don't really understand how this works. I get the premise, but why can't we flatten the line like the map?
It goes against the projection.
Dagordae
Because the map isn’t actually accurate. Because we’re trying to put a spherical image on a flat map it distorts the hell out of everything
That isn’t actually on the equator. Greenland, for instance, is shown as the size of Africa when in reality it’s less than a 10th of it.
CRTBOTF2
1) Imagine cutting open a paper sphere. You can't flatten that without ripping it many times. Some maps incorporate some of those rips, but
2) not all as you'd need hundreds and they'd go through continents which would be annoying. So instead the map image is artificially
3) distorted so it does lie flat. This is a "projection", ie after you'd ripped the paper globe apart and spread the curved bits out as best
4) you can, you "project" what's left onto flat paper, so it's distorted - Your straight lines come out curved.
Waistedspace
Makes perfect sense if you live on a globe.
anotherhippynamedcosmicsomethingoranother
Right “if”, but since we live on a giant, flat planet, it’s just weird how nature do that.
Imakethingsweird
Who lives in a globe under the sea?
Aeav8r
You believe we live?
DeepFriedAndSanctified
Is there someone who doesn't?
MonsieurLeMoustache
but do we ? HA !
Stop globeearther, science proved we're on a cubic planet and you have to admit it.
imitatedself
Only if you use a specific projection for the map. You could just as easily draw a map in which a straight line is fastest as well.
HappyEngineer
Would need a new map for each journey though?
random360
Not each journey, each map has a set of true lines depending on the projection used, but functionally yes when dealing with most cities.
Leithoa
Yes, you do. Pirates often prioritized stealing maps over gold when looting ships. Accurate maps are expensive.
Psionickitten
Indeed. Most flat maps gradually enlarge land masses the farther they get from the equator to make it "fit."
That's not really true. Most flat maps are oriented around a specific area. Outside of that area you either distort areas or angles.
2)Like a map of Belgium is accurate within Belgium but using the same projection would be innaccurate in California.
Its true, just you're more descriptive about how he distortion is actually done.
It's not. There are loads of different projection schemes, only a few of them skew things based on latitude.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Map_projection#Classification
Illithidbane
May as well use the map they believe in. Still stupid, but at least honest about their stupidity.
AlaSnackbar
Flat earther map is carbon copynof the map from UN logo. So flat earther are a UN consipiracy.
AvielMenter
This still doesn't work at all; try the same maneuver in the southern hemisphere, for example.
PokoOnoandtheJamJams
Here I am doing crs projections like some chump when I could just be plotting linear distances to everything
ExTechOp
This of course totally fails to explain why the stars "rotate" counter-clockwise in the northern hemisphere and clockwise in the southern.
AnonymousNPC10
That's the old wizard's robe as he walks around making sure the sun and the moon keep spinning.
katsumiblisk
How do they account for the South Pole - a point being 38,000 miles long?
jehone
?
Lokenessluke
Never seen this before, thank you. Very interesting. I see someone said they believe an ice wall surrounds it, how high I wonder?
YouMayFindThisMildlyInteresting
Sounds like they were totally high.
TheRealXeromaus
You make a valid point; how high can the ice wall be before the flat earth becomes a cylinder and invalidates itself?
150 feet high, apparently. https://wiki.tfes.org/The_Ice_Wall
Buddasac
Man whoever created that page needs to not be part of the human race anymore.
Rhythmaster
At this point they could claim everything is still pangaea, it's no more ridiculous than all the other claims and easily disproven theories.
Looks right to me....and explains why a flight from Rio to Sydney takes two days
They have some bs about airliners being in on the cover up, they fly in very broad cycles to pad time or some dumb stuff like that...
Elmarrr
I went from Europe to New Zealand over India and Western Australia and now I know why it took 26 hours lol
Youhavinagiraffe
And why it takes 3-4 times as long to fly from West to East Australia (e.g. PER to BNE) than to fly from North to South (e.g. DRW to ADL)...
chewbaccawakka
Two days? Flight time or included timezones? Granted I didn’t find any direct fligjts but syd-rio (1 transfer wait 1h20min): 18h
I think he/she would have did the same thing, but, you know, low cost flight, could have been 3 days for cheaper...
ijoinedtoolate
Flat days or round days?
FelonyFerret
When they gotta believin' the planet ain't a polydodecahedron... smh.
genericusernamewastaken
Question: how do FE-ers explain the climate shifts from the equator to the poles? It’s coldest in the center and on the edges on this map
If you think earth is flat, I imagine that climate shifts is a non sense thing, as God only knows.
GodsFoot
You are thinking to hard that they think hard at all. It is just excuses as their reasoning, not actual reasoning
They generally do have an answer for everything but don't seem to care that none of these responses are coherent with each other
The ol' "thermodynamic donut"...60% of the time, it works everytime.
Jroll2011
My favorite is when you ask them to explain a lunar eclipse
Mewlies
They say the sun moves around the equator slightly faster than the moon and we get an eclipse on days the sun laps the moon. lol
InTheDistanceAPlaintiveEnglishHorn
Or why the moon and the stars look different in the southern and northern hemispheres
The sun apparently travels in a circle above what we consider the equator.
Textuality
And yet somehow we don't see it curving away as it's rotating. Because "it's too far to see properly, herp derp" or some such crap.
CrimeBrulee
I love the amount of effort that goes into being wrong. They have to be kidding right??
OctopusStinkhorn
And is a spotlight
Millsslslsls
but sunrises and sunsets...?
if it was like this then everywhere would have eternal daylight like the north/south poles get seasonally
cearn
Y'know how things appear lower when moving away? They argue it's like that. It doesn't work ( ~10° would be the lowest point), ...
but you'd have to understand geometry and vision to understand that. They don't. In fact they vehemently deny both.
NowDoThatVoodooThatYouDo
Is that a literal Arctic Circle
aThingWithTheStufAndTheJunk
Which one?
TheHippieDrood
What am I looking at here????
So, there's a theory among flat earthers that Antarctica is just a wall of ice but that it isn't the edge of the flat earth. Whence lost 1/
continents, etc. Then people ran with it. I think there's an even bigger one with more rings. I have no idea where most of the continent 2/
DoorTable
Pure, undeniable, unbiased truth!
Lamiaaaa
medieval ages
Override9636
2 Questions: Where are "Set" and "Anubis" in our sky? and Is Ho-Ho the plane of existence where Santa lives?
Omg there's a continent called "Kek" and "Gonoria", this had to have been made by 4chan trolls lmao
The moon. Black moon, white moon = moon phases. Because it can't be the Earth's shadow because the sun's up in the sky and so's the moon.
So flat earthers believe in two moons orbiting each other? Are they round despite the earth being flat?How do objects orbit without gravity?
ipeeinyourshowertoo
I want to know more, please. The RPG ideas alone...
It represents a lot of crazy flat earth theories. Note that each ring has its own sun and a light moon and a dark moon because that's why 1/
moon phases. Yes, really. Moon phases are because two moons.
Yes. FE believers claim there is an ice wall surrounding the Earth that prevents anyone/anything falling off the edge.
ZVMaker
Well, some of them. It's really a lot of distinctly different conspiracies under the umbrella category of "thinking earth is flat"
Yes absolutely, so don't vote Trump who's a climate sceptic or all off theses ice walls will heat and disapear and destroy mankind...
TheRicM
I think it's true. Otherwise how do you explain why cats haven't knocked everything off the earth already
But is it in the southern hemisphere tho? I think the centre of the world is Antarctica!
Flibbertyjib
But are they really believers? I just can’t grasp they aren’t all trolling us and actually do believe it. It boggles my tiny mind
SteelyDad
Much like QAnon, it started as trolling but took on a life of its own.
AlmightyElephant
https://youtu.be/2gFsOoKAHZg enjoy. Also there's a documentary on Netflix called Behind the Curve, which is alright.
daugbret
It started out as a debate exercise. Try to argue the most ludicrous thing you could think of.
Huh TIL
DarkBusterBaron
Also Australia doesn't exist if you book a flight to Australia you get drugged taken somewhere else and told it's Australia.
EvilStarLegacy
Also, the reason the center and edges have ice is because the Sun is swinging around the flat earth like a pendulum.
Oh...yikes ?1
TheRimOfTheSky
That would almost make sense if it wasn't fucking insane
walnussbaum
And then they're like: look, they would manipulate even that to give us the wrong impression - another proof for flat earth
Op010101
A turtles shell has a curve
diphenhydraminehcl50mg
(I don't know which one is the flat earth one)
tappersparty3
explain that flat earthers
YouEatYellowSnow
Sure, this makes sense.
baiin
Jokes: https://youtu.be/iYZbQIXoVMY
Undrave
When I went to Japan I saw the vast frozen wastes of the Canadian Arctic... majestic!
HenryLongfellowIII
It was very clever of the sphereists to work all this out before jets could take you over the North pole in a matter of hours.
ComradeGorbash
Want to get really fucked up? Depending on frame of reference, the top one is the straight line and the bottom one the curved.
shredder134
One of many things Stephenson has painless explained to me.
CoffeePleaseee
If they could read they’d be pissed
LosPer
moweener
So flat earthers are obi-wan? You don fucked up son!!!
TheyDontKnowAndYouCantTellEm
Flat Earthing >>> Shitposting. PROVE ME WRONG!
OrionRed
You didn't show me any proof, you just showed me a cartoon.
Tomdafunk
This topic is extremely interesting in topology :)
NoUserNamesLeftToChooseFrom
I detect flat earthers among us. Also, how do they know which way is down? How can they down vote something if there is no down?
IMustGrowUpReally
That's easy to explain, using the following conversion rate: - 1 bent km = 1.188 straight kms C'mon round earthers, open your minds!
FubarJunkie
That will cause them a shock:
v
manulofdoom
they'll just call it fake news, as usual
nevergoingtogiveyouupnevergoingtoletyoudown
There's so many ways to make flat Earther's look stupid. I mean where's that edge of the world video guys?
Odballl
What happens when flat-earthers talk to hollow-earthers?
scuba7jb
erwanairone360
Burn it!
DeliciousMeatCurtains
All around the world lalalalalala
TheresnoDanaonlyZuul
Do they still exist or did they just switch to Qanon b.s and anti-mask?
OrionRed
They still do, but it's starting to die down.
simonsaysabunchofstuff
Flat earth model only falls apart if you show the same scenario in the southern hemisphere
Guidocat
There are a number of flat earth experiments "proving" it to be true and most of us couldnt explain why its wrong.
Guidocat
It's fun to laugh, but we could learn enough to refute the flat earth hypotheses instead and better ourselves.
ImGoingToHellinEveryReligion
sometimes I wish the earth was flat, so I could push the stupid ones from the edge.
destinychopsticks
I'm not a flat earther but even I don't really understand how this works. I get the premise, but why can't we flatten the line like the map?
OrionRed
It goes against the projection.
Dagordae
Because the map isn’t actually accurate. Because we’re trying to put a spherical image on a flat map it distorts the hell out of everything
Dagordae
That isn’t actually on the equator. Greenland, for instance, is shown as the size of Africa when in reality it’s less than a 10th of it.
CRTBOTF2
1) Imagine cutting open a paper sphere. You can't flatten that without ripping it many times. Some maps incorporate some of those rips, but
CRTBOTF2
2) not all as you'd need hundreds and they'd go through continents which would be annoying. So instead the map image is artificially
CRTBOTF2
3) distorted so it does lie flat. This is a "projection", ie after you'd ripped the paper globe apart and spread the curved bits out as best
CRTBOTF2
4) you can, you "project" what's left onto flat paper, so it's distorted - Your straight lines come out curved.
Waistedspace
Makes perfect sense if you live on a globe.
anotherhippynamedcosmicsomethingoranother
Right “if”, but since we live on a giant, flat planet, it’s just weird how nature do that.
Imakethingsweird
Who lives in a globe under the sea?
Aeav8r
You believe we live?
DeepFriedAndSanctified
Is there someone who doesn't?
MonsieurLeMoustache
but do we ? HA !
erwanairone360
Stop globeearther, science proved we're on a cubic planet and you have to admit it.
imitatedself
Only if you use a specific projection for the map. You could just as easily draw a map in which a straight line is fastest as well.
HappyEngineer
Would need a new map for each journey though?
random360
Not each journey, each map has a set of true lines depending on the projection used, but functionally yes when dealing with most cities.
Leithoa
Yes, you do. Pirates often prioritized stealing maps over gold when looting ships. Accurate maps are expensive.
Psionickitten
Indeed. Most flat maps gradually enlarge land masses the farther they get from the equator to make it "fit."
Leithoa
That's not really true. Most flat maps are oriented around a specific area. Outside of that area you either distort areas or angles.
Leithoa
2)Like a map of Belgium is accurate within Belgium but using the same projection would be innaccurate in California.
Psionickitten
Its true, just you're more descriptive about how he distortion is actually done.
Leithoa
It's not. There are loads of different projection schemes, only a few of them skew things based on latitude.
Leithoa
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Map_projection#Classification
Illithidbane
May as well use the map they believe in. Still stupid, but at least honest about their stupidity.
AlaSnackbar
Flat earther map is carbon copynof the map from UN logo. So flat earther are a UN consipiracy.
AvielMenter
This still doesn't work at all; try the same maneuver in the southern hemisphere, for example.
PokoOnoandtheJamJams
Here I am doing crs projections like some chump when I could just be plotting linear distances to everything
ExTechOp
This of course totally fails to explain why the stars "rotate" counter-clockwise in the northern hemisphere and clockwise in the southern.
AnonymousNPC10
That's the old wizard's robe as he walks around making sure the sun and the moon keep spinning.
katsumiblisk
How do they account for the South Pole - a point being 38,000 miles long?
jehone
?
Lokenessluke
Never seen this before, thank you. Very interesting. I see someone said they believe an ice wall surrounds it, how high I wonder?
YouMayFindThisMildlyInteresting
Sounds like they were totally high.
TheRealXeromaus
You make a valid point; how high can the ice wall be before the flat earth becomes a cylinder and invalidates itself?
Illithidbane
150 feet high, apparently. https://wiki.tfes.org/The_Ice_Wall
Buddasac
Man whoever created that page needs to not be part of the human race anymore.
Rhythmaster
At this point they could claim everything is still pangaea, it's no more ridiculous than all the other claims and easily disproven theories.
TheRealXeromaus
Looks right to me....and explains why a flight from Rio to Sydney takes two days
AnonymousNPC10
They have some bs about airliners being in on the cover up, they fly in very broad cycles to pad time or some dumb stuff like that...
Elmarrr
I went from Europe to New Zealand over India and Western Australia and now I know why it took 26 hours lol
Youhavinagiraffe
And why it takes 3-4 times as long to fly from West to East Australia (e.g. PER to BNE) than to fly from North to South (e.g. DRW to ADL)...
chewbaccawakka
Two days? Flight time or included timezones? Granted I didn’t find any direct fligjts but syd-rio (1 transfer wait 1h20min): 18h
erwanairone360
I think he/she would have did the same thing, but, you know, low cost flight, could have been 3 days for cheaper...
ijoinedtoolate
Flat days or round days?
FelonyFerret
When they gotta believin' the planet ain't a polydodecahedron... smh.
genericusernamewastaken
Question: how do FE-ers explain the climate shifts from the equator to the poles? It’s coldest in the center and on the edges on this map
erwanairone360
If you think earth is flat, I imagine that climate shifts is a non sense thing, as God only knows.
GodsFoot
You are thinking to hard that they think hard at all. It is just excuses as their reasoning, not actual reasoning
Youhavinagiraffe
They generally do have an answer for everything but don't seem to care that none of these responses are coherent with each other
TheRealXeromaus
The ol' "thermodynamic donut"...60% of the time, it works everytime.
Jroll2011
My favorite is when you ask them to explain a lunar eclipse
Mewlies
They say the sun moves around the equator slightly faster than the moon and we get an eclipse on days the sun laps the moon. lol
InTheDistanceAPlaintiveEnglishHorn
Or why the moon and the stars look different in the southern and northern hemispheres
Illithidbane
The sun apparently travels in a circle above what we consider the equator.
Textuality
And yet somehow we don't see it curving away as it's rotating. Because "it's too far to see properly, herp derp" or some such crap.
CrimeBrulee
I love the amount of effort that goes into being wrong. They have to be kidding right??
OctopusStinkhorn
And is a spotlight
Millsslslsls
but sunrises and sunsets...?
Millsslslsls
if it was like this then everywhere would have eternal daylight like the north/south poles get seasonally
cearn
Y'know how things appear lower when moving away? They argue it's like that. It doesn't work ( ~10° would be the lowest point), ...
cearn
but you'd have to understand geometry and vision to understand that. They don't. In fact they vehemently deny both.
NowDoThatVoodooThatYouDo
Is that a literal Arctic Circle
aThingWithTheStufAndTheJunk
Which one?
TheHippieDrood
What am I looking at here????
aThingWithTheStufAndTheJunk
So, there's a theory among flat earthers that Antarctica is just a wall of ice but that it isn't the edge of the flat earth. Whence lost 1/
aThingWithTheStufAndTheJunk
continents, etc. Then people ran with it. I think there's an even bigger one with more rings. I have no idea where most of the continent 2/
DoorTable
Pure, undeniable, unbiased truth!
Lamiaaaa
medieval ages
Override9636
2 Questions: Where are "Set" and "Anubis" in our sky? and Is Ho-Ho the plane of existence where Santa lives?
Override9636
Omg there's a continent called "Kek" and "Gonoria", this had to have been made by 4chan trolls lmao
aThingWithTheStufAndTheJunk
The moon. Black moon, white moon = moon phases. Because it can't be the Earth's shadow because the sun's up in the sky and so's the moon.
Override9636
So flat earthers believe in two moons orbiting each other? Are they round despite the earth being flat?How do objects orbit without gravity?
ipeeinyourshowertoo
I want to know more, please. The RPG ideas alone...
aThingWithTheStufAndTheJunk
It represents a lot of crazy flat earth theories. Note that each ring has its own sun and a light moon and a dark moon because that's why 1/
aThingWithTheStufAndTheJunk
moon phases. Yes, really. Moon phases are because two moons.
Illithidbane
Yes. FE believers claim there is an ice wall surrounding the Earth that prevents anyone/anything falling off the edge.
ZVMaker
Well, some of them. It's really a lot of distinctly different conspiracies under the umbrella category of "thinking earth is flat"
erwanairone360
Yes absolutely, so don't vote Trump who's a climate sceptic or all off theses ice walls will heat and disapear and destroy mankind...
TheRicM
I think it's true. Otherwise how do you explain why cats haven't knocked everything off the earth already
InTheDistanceAPlaintiveEnglishHorn
But is it in the southern hemisphere tho? I think the centre of the world is Antarctica!
Flibbertyjib
But are they really believers? I just can’t grasp they aren’t all trolling us and actually do believe it. It boggles my tiny mind
SteelyDad
Much like QAnon, it started as trolling but took on a life of its own.
AlmightyElephant
https://youtu.be/2gFsOoKAHZg enjoy. Also there's a documentary on Netflix called Behind the Curve, which is alright.
daugbret
It started out as a debate exercise. Try to argue the most ludicrous thing you could think of.
NowDoThatVoodooThatYouDo
Huh TIL
DarkBusterBaron
Also Australia doesn't exist if you book a flight to Australia you get drugged taken somewhere else and told it's Australia.
EvilStarLegacy
Also, the reason the center and edges have ice is because the Sun is swinging around the flat earth like a pendulum.
NowDoThatVoodooThatYouDo
Oh...yikes
?1
Illithidbane
TheRimOfTheSky
That would almost make sense if it wasn't fucking insane