henryclairmont
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Bye bye bunker
Russian stuff will always work
Attack on a British ship didn’t do much
Effects of an RPG on an Abrams
17 pounder didn’t do what they wanted to that panzer
End it with Iowa Class munitions punching a hole in Yamato Class armor FP Edit: send boobs a/o nudes
erickwhite9
This is going in my cool shit folder.
GendouLovesDucklings
somanywonders987
First one says "attention: death risk"
PeterParkerPickedAPeckOfPickledPeppers
That's direct damage, not collateral damage.
SvenPek
I love #3 he is standing there being like "Hmm I wonder what happened here!"
undateabledave
ThisIsNotMyTrueName
Sign in #1 says "Attention: danger of death"
tiderfish
Always amazes me to see how much steel goes into armor plating
WillyWinkey
ICallHerVera
I don't think that's what "collateral damage" means.
GodEmperor0fMankind
Goddamn. It must be a bitch to fix those tanks.
transjeander
the spauling on that 17 pounder was probably lethal
Precastbubbles
The second to last would likely have killed/wounded any crewman nearby, from the spalling it kicked out.
JustHereToFactYouUp
Duct tape
GentlemanScientist
#7 What was it and what happened to it? #9 When were an IS-3 ever in a situation to be shot at? Afghanistan?
metalfoto
Yeah wtf with the carrier. Looks modern/recent stuff
trumpypumpyinyourrumpy
RiftandRend
Glorious BRRRRTTT!
zenoshogun
#8 is HMS Boxer which was used for target practice after being decomissioned.
TheresAGermanWordForThat
Todesgefahr
bubsassian
#9 is the Russian female badass pilot
wuppieigor
Nah, the real badass ones flew in shitty biplanes doing night raids 588tu bomber regiment
Donth101
Nice, I don’t think I’ve seen many photos of battle damage before.
CapitalNick
Some of these were used as target practice after the fact.
SLUGGOMATIC
Both amazing and sobering.
MidlandRedux
What hit that ship with the helicopter landing pad?
clk62
Harpoon Missiles
MidlandRedux
Falklands, then?
clk62
No, SINKEX. https://www.reddit.com/r/DestructionPorn/comments/5aemav/hms_boxer_f92_after_being_hit_with_two_harpoon
clk62
For the Falklands, it was the HMS Sheffield. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Sheffield_(D80)
icounttopotato
None of this is collateral damage, this is all intended damages..
izzysage1616
This was pissing me off also
LitchLitch
That was driving me nuts
ISayFuckAllTheTime
I was like, "Either you or I don't know what collateral damage means, and I'm pretty fucking sure it's you..."
icounttopotato
But still quite cool
Asteroidrules
The sign post probably could be considered collateral.
DeathAnGravity
Bingo
fleacollerindustry
Well, slightly less than intended on some of them. Cuz I doubt some of them INTENDED to let their opponents survive to tell their tale...
Lambast
But these all look like really expensive machines. Why would anyone want to damage them?
Altanese
I dunno, that sign post and maybe the fighter cutting into the tail of the bomber with it's wing.
VirginSurgeon
What peppered the Sherman in pic 3?
vampirehedgehog
Not the same, but similar results:![]()
ARandomHelljumper
I’d guess HVAP/APCR sub-caliber 20mm shells. .50 cals wouldn’t pen that far and too small and numerous to be 37mm.
xDOSRx
VirginSurgeon
My thoughts exactly. Not penetrating shots but looks like too much spread to be anti tank round. Almost looks like a direct fire frm AA flak
theunderwhelmingone
METHematics
I couldn't imagine how loud that must be to the person sitting inside one of those hollow metal tanks getting slammed with rounds.
Sm9yCg
"shell shock"
biblioteker
What?
NachoPete
He couldn't imagine how loud that must be to the person sitting inside one of those hollow metal tanks getting slammed with rounds!
Kendren
HUH?
GerberLegalTeam
Jesus. HE SAID HE COULDN'T IMAGINE HOW LOUD IT WOULD BE.
allezcats
Yeah I don’t think the passengers heard much after the initial sound
PatrickRob82
Purdy loud, I reckon.
AlcoholicsAnonymousBYO
WHAT ?
Janusha
They would have been empty at the time. Abandoned or broken down tanks were usually used for target practice.
PancakeFaker
Well what about actual combat? IE the Abrams pictured. I know it's not what you mean, but you make it sound like every tank is always empty.
Janusha
How fucking dumb are you willing to admit to being?
Cyclicus
Tanks, hell...imagine being in the Yamato when that shell hits its hull
noname117spore
Didn’t happen. They found some armor from an incomplete sister ship and did gunnery testing on it.
AliitOriShyaTalDin
The Yamato was sunk by aircraft if I recall correctly. Never really saw surface combat with other battleships.
cyanideslushie
Truly badass, although i don’t think any constitute colateral damage. They seem pretty intentional to me
EKOasaripple
Airplane prop one looks like it may have been accidental. The bends are going outward like the machine gun timer failed and he fired 1/
EKOasaripple
through his own prop
thankgodfordeaddinosaurs
Thank you!
bitemark
Really they were shooting at the people inside, the vehicles just got in the way
skelitor120
If I'm in war and I'm shooting at a tank and I disable it but the driver gets out and runs away, I'd feel absolutely no need to kill him.
skelitor120
-- and scarier than the human inside it lol
skelitor120
-- so when you think of it that way you either want to kill the man operating the tank or kill the tank but either way the tank is bigger--
whyamihererightnow5
Last picture, An Iowa class battleship never engaged the Yamato...
peekinginwindowspassestime
That was part of an 18inch gun turret from yamato used for pen testing at point blank range watch "Nazi Mega Weapons" s03e06 Netflix hasit
whyamihererightnow5
Not from the Yamato, but a sister ship a point blank range. Never combative damage.
knighttime
Hello fellow history nerd!
peekinginwindowspassestime
Hello.
whyamihererightnow5
Hello fellow history channel fan before it went to shit haha
knighttime
Oh god. Just like the discovery channel. Remember when there were actual programs that you could learn something from? Good times
whyamihererightnow5
Worse is that those channels didn’t upload their programs to YouTube a few years back, now it is just a bunch of bad recordings to watch
Smagalicious
I completely agree!! WTF happened to the good shit?? I miss the REAL Discovery channel and the REAL History channel. The stuff now is crap!
LeumisRichardson
I'm guessing it is the result of a proving ground test. "Iowa class armament, Yamato class armor".
Thor73
You are correct. It was a test of turret face armor recovered from Kure, Japan and tested after the war in 1947. The relevant doc follows
Thor73
http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a955281.pdf
LeumisRichardson
Yup. I found that. Thanks. : )
whyamihererightnow5
Why? The Yamato was sunk before we even knew its true size and capability
LeumisRichardson
If you had some reasonable guess as to the enemies armour would you not test your gun on that to see if it would work? "know" vs "estimate".
whyamihererightnow5
We didn’t know, the first US fighters to spot it where amazed by its size. They couldn’t believe it was that big.
LeumisRichardson
But surely they would have guessed that the Japanese had large battleships and what state of the art was likely to be. But I'm guessing too.
noname117spore
It’s post war. The armor was either taken from either an incomplete ship or removed from Shinano during her carrier conversion.
Thor73
This is the test he was talking about. http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a955281.pdf
LeumisRichardson
Correct. It was Shinano's, but was never installed on her. Test was conducted Oct 16, 1946 on the Potomac River. See NPG Report 5-47.
DurendaI
Go'bless that Abrams. Those beasts are champs. Except when they are submerged upside down in a sandstorm and their convoy leaves them to die
RoscoeLuvsBosco
It’s crazy how vicious mankind can be. Sad really.
zooumberg8
No challenger two has been lost to enemy fire, one was hit by 70 RPG's and survived.
Kazpur81S
I remember that happening
Kenona
They are bloody great MBT's, untill a Chally rolls up and you realize you were just 'mirin a glorified trash can in comparison.
HaveScotchWillTravel
Or when a 9mm gets inside any of its turbines, or some fool hits the fire suppression system conveniently located outside the damn thing
TheAlmightyJesus
Welded a plate over ours. In Iraq, top wasn’t happy but fuck him he didn’t know what happened if it’s pulled... damn scouts.
HaveScotchWillTravel
How the fuck did top not understand, if it were a butter bar I could see it but top... that’s scary shit! Co2 + crew cab = free tank
TheAlmightyJesus
Not worried about the Co2 more worried about the engine kill switch
MisterLemons
I understand the concept of the external trigger, but was it really necessary for it to be so goddamn easy to pull?
jerethdatiger12
On the pic shown it seems like a lot of damge was done i thought abrams were mostly immune to rpgs
LeumisRichardson
From the front. From the sides and rear they are much more vulnerable. Tis' why tanks don't go into to town alone.
GadenKerensky
Tis' also why Merkava MK IVs and Namer APCs are equipped with the Trophy APS.
HalfOpenSkies
Abrams are being outfitted with Trophy APS actually.
GadenKerensky
I thought they were being outfitted with something similar? Or did they decide the Trophy was proven enough to use instead?
ARandomHelljumper
The turret has side coverage with composite/Chobham armor that can stop RPG-7s very effectively, but the hull side and rear are unarmored.
aegis27
Not as bad as it looks. It hit the track covers, and there's a solid few feet of empty space between them and the hull of the tank.
sitarhero
Resistant I think but not Immune. RPGs work by shooting a concentrated jet of super hot copper that more or less liquefies other metals >
sitarhero
> sending that stream straight into the tank's interior with devastating results.
ARandomHelljumper
Tanks can defend against that. The Abrams has both composite and ERA armor. ERA reacts to shaped charges by detonating a small explosive 1/
ARandomHelljumper
layer typically woven into a ceramic tile, which causes the jet to fragment and deform away from its normal path, effectively negating it 2/
ARandomHelljumper
In short: (ignoring the Fedayeen propaganda commentary) https://youtu.be/nNL46-FEpWM, multiple RPG-7 hits, no damage and no crew injuries.
ARandomHelljumper
The fires that you see are from insurgent molotovs; not from fuel ignition from the Abrams, which is very, very rare.
Donth101
That’s very specific, is there something you want to talk about?
DurendaI
Because you asked: http://www.leatherneck.com/forums/showthread.php?5424-Crew-drowns-as-Abrams-plunges-into-Euphrates
agermanguy
Not much details in the article . Why couldnt they come out of it ?
ButWhyThough
Why couldnt the vehicle be recovered or why couldnt they get out?
Notanotherdamnone
Best thing that came out of that was the CO clearing the TOC while it happened.
DeathAnGravity
"No enemy fire had ever destroyed one, and no crew member had ever died fighting from one." Sadly, this is no longer a true statement.
overlordchris666
Wired, I heard during the early days of Afghanistan invasion, that suicide bombers drove fully loaded explosive trucks into them to stop it.
overlordchris666
Maybe because they were not well known incidents that it wasn't counted and recorded? But I was not in that city so I don't, I was @ Airbase
DurendaI
I only know about this because my uncle was involved back when it happened.
ButWhyThough
Damn thats sad. Theres not much to be done if a M1A1 goes down though, theyre pretty much impossible to winch without the right recovery :/
DeathAnGravity
While i was in Iraq, I'd heard of a HUMMWV that rolled in the Euphrates river and Iraqi civilians dived in after it to rescue the crew.
HerrFraeulein
This may be a dumb question, but aren't tanks waterproof? Did the water come in through the exhaust pipe and the cannon?
RecurringNightmare
afaik a tank has to be prepared before driving through a river, and even then its not entirely waterproof, i mean, not even ships are, if >
RecurringNightmare
> there is a shaft or something going through the hull then water comes in and has to be pumped out again...i gues if that wouldve happened>
Donth101
That is a fucked up way to die.
MajorLeagueFister
Honestly when I deployed rolling over into water was one of .y greatest fears. More than IEDs or enemy fire.
m053486
It’s a shitty way to go for sure, but the high op-tempo (which probably lead to it) also saved incalculable lives in the push to Baghdad.
tbkelley1498
is there any special reason they were stopped on the bridge instead of one side or another?
Donth101
I know.