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https://coloradosun.com/2023/04/28/colorado-governor-signs-four-gun-bills-into-law-erpo-age-red-flag/
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https://coloradosun.com/2023/04/28/colorado-governor-signs-four-gun-bills-into-law-erpo-age-red-flag/
SeasonCat
Vix4
Keep at it Colorado and you could become a Canadian province !!
SwayzeS
It's a good start, but a long way from protecting our population now that they have nationally allowed such a proliferation of guns to be distributed EVERYWHERE! How do we collect & eliminate all the guns already in the hands of every criminal & moron? Yes, allow law enforcement to have guns, & hunters, & even responsible adults, who pass gun safety courses, & agree to keep every gun they own in a child-proof gun safe. But still, it would take 100 years to collect & destroy all the illegal guns.
wheeeeeeeeeeee
HeRulesWithARubberFist
Way to go Polis!
Bob122872
I wish I could say that Boebert is spinning in her grave, but there's always tomorrow.
levelfivedetentionblockaa23
But what about muh freedoms? /s
witalaska4
palelunch
Western slope is not going to like this (which is a good thing)
shakedownblues
#allfirearmsrelatedsuitsthroughcolorado
savoryleftist
brb moving to colorado
morninggloryshade777
Yay! But something like...39?...states to go?!?!
themrwrong
It is progress and we have to start somewhere, but 3 day waiting period is a joke. We need to make sure we work to restrict firearms further if we are to save lives and hope for federal regulation
BenderRodriguz1010
mm2k
Make gun owners pay insurance
TheEvenPrez
Watch conservatives bitch about this, completely contradicting the 'state's rights' bullshit they employ in every other social issue.
Mohareb
One state tighten it and another slacks it
bstro932
Colorado proving that you lead from the front.
NayaTaylor
You need a password or thumb print to unlock your damn phone WHY is it so much to ask to have it on a tool for killing things?
unluckyandbored
A 3-day waiting period is not enough. 30 days minimum. Better than nothing, but not near good enough.
Munchman347
How about insurance like is mandatory for cars, because you might hurt or kill someone with a car...
FlyingTigerRose
Past fucking time for this. Good for them. Sounds like they care about their people.
dudeWith2dogs
Refreshing news
RockKickass
Meanwhile a trump judge blocked Illinois gun law today
SkaerKrowe
Not gonna lie. The headline had me worried. But they went the right way with these. Let's get the rest of the country to do the same.
Kamchatkah
Judging by the country's history, I thought it was gonna be about imposing a 4 gun minimum per person.
thedarkcanuck
In Canada our gun laws are all mandated at a federal level. I don't understand why it's not like that in the US
SkaerKrowe
Muh freedumbs!! /s
paulbloface
The states are almost like a bunch of individual territories hiding in a trench coat called America. Take how independent Quebec likes to act, double it, then apply that to every province and territory.
QuitLookinAtMineAim
Bobo is gonna lose her shit
CE0485
Bobo is a willful idiot….
unluckyandbored
Fuck that bitch, she can eat shit and die.
QuitLookinAtMineAim
I mean, ya, I stand against everything I've ever heard from her. No redeemable qualities, just pure suck
violentdosage
I live in Colorado. I am a gun owner. I am in full support of this. When Columbine happened, I was a child. My mother sat me in front of the tv to watch the unfolding horrors. Sounds terrible on paper, but it had a profound impact on me. They’re not toys. And that’s how most people treat them. I hate that I have to have a gun to feel a small amount of safety to protect me and my own in this country…
Thornaxe
I don’t think “most” gun owners treat them like toys. Maybe a majority of the ammosexuals you see with firearm in public though. Lots of people own guns and don’t ascribe to “gun culture”. Whatever gun culture even is…. At this point it seems like a mechanism for small minded, petty and powerless people to feel powerful enough to get a hard on.
Pervaroo
The waiting period for buying guns is a big one. Both suicides and murders go down when there's a waiting period.
tarnok
Keyword is "feel". We've seen way to much evidence that more guns doesn't make it safer by a long shot
hangemhigh13
Hah. Long shot.
LittleChickadee
These simple "common sense" measures can save countless lives, just by slowing down suicide by firearms. Never ceases to amaze me how anyone would oppose this
IDontKnowWhatToDoAnymoreAndImTired
Many states have had waiting periods for decades. Research shows that there's no significant effect on overall suicides--people who don't want to wait just kill themselves another way.
IDontKnowWhatToDoAnymoreAndImTired
https://www.rand.org/research/gun-policy/analysis/waiting-periods/suicide.html
gtawGeezus
If Boebert could read the bills, she’d be very upset
kmikl
She'll be really upset when someone tells her to be upset.
StuckHereWithYouAndThoseClowns
bcam23
golf clap
pendy923
What’s great is Lauren can’t do a goddamn thing about it.
PTK74
She can. Exactly what she does about everything. Bitch and moan.
Broken08
She is, and they are already suing.
OobedoobScoobyDoobyBenubi
If she could read I don’t think she’d be so fucking stupid
TheVampireDante
She's probably too busy out scouting parks for kids her husband can expose himself in front of to notice the bills being put forward.
StuckHereWithYouAndThoseClowns
I don’t think she can read…
ensensu
Good, let's keep it that way.
TheMightyMollusk
She's perpetually upset about something anyway. It's the GOP way.
commentsivehadafew
The ability to sue the gun industry could be huge
chefsoda
We’ll have to see how it works with the federal prohibitions, but it’s a huge step forward regardless.
wisher1977
Of all the manufacturers that sell products that end up killing people, how is it that these gun company’s have never been sued? Oh yeah…GOP pays their salary…
morninggloryshade777
The ability to shut them down sb real.
DirtySnakeEyes
i still feel like blaming the tool, and makers of them is missing the point entirely. in what world is it the weapons fault? the inanimate object, which is being used by some random jagoff with an axe to grind. if thats the case, why dont we blame bows for the deaths of all asian soldiers during feudal times instead of the archers themselves? or blame muskets for the revolutionary war? what we *need* is to hold the *users* of said firearms accountable. and proper regulations.
themullusk
Especially for Colorado. The Aurora area alone has serious issues.
BishlamekGurpgork
How does this interact with the ability to file civil suits in courts other than the state the infraction occurred? Could violence in other states use Colorado state law to pursue a lawsuit against a manufacturer?
SleventyEleventy
Not unless the company is based in Colorado, but then it would most likely go federal for diversity jurisdiction
metricman67
Are they currently shielded from being sued?
chefsoda
They are protected from collateral actions by federal law, not direct liability. The law was passed in 2005 to prevent manufacturers from being bankrupted by collateral claims, whicj became a public effort in the early 2000s
unluckyandbored
The Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act prevents gun manufacturers from being held liable if a gun they made is used in a crime.
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BishlamekGurpgork
I thought most lawsuits focused on their marketing to youth that was at risk such as Uvalde, or at their alleged courtship of illicit trafficking, such as the suits from Buffalo and Mexico. Maybe I only think that because those made the news?
zxwaffen
More than one gun company has been successfully sued for their advertising.
Slimewire
Opiate and tobacco companies would like a word
MangaSpawn
That one is a little odd to me. It’s be like suing Tito’s for a drunk drivers actions. I’m all for holding gun owners accountable like if a kid takes a parents gun they are as much to blame for what happens or a negligent gun store selling to someone they shouldn’t. But the company that made a gun seems a little removed or am I missing something?
Painahimah
It's more like suing the bar that overserved, which is a thing
Duros62
Haven't cigarette companies been sued?
ImHereToExplainTheJoke
We did this to the tobacco industry. We didn’t sue them for selling smokes, we sued them for false marketing, underplaying the health risks, marketing to kids and failing to punish resellers who broke underage selling laws. It worked.
leperoutcastunclean
It would more or less run contrary to a major legal principle, and open up a ridiculous can of worms.
Alango10
I disagree, the entire purpose of a gun is to kill
TheAsterite
car companies should be held liable too
WorthEveryPenny
You gotta go watch their ads. They specifically Market to unstable 2a loons and market their products as tactical weapons for use on civilians and 'thugs' as a veiled generalization for minorities
KileyBarker
If Tito's entire purpose was to poison and kill other people it would be banned from sale.
IDontKnowWhatToDoAnymoreAndImTired
You're not missing anything logical. The point isn't actual liability, it's to try and establish a precedent for nuisance suits making it impossible for companies to do business. It's basically the gun equivalent of Texas' abortion bounty hunter law.
Imalwaysready
If Tito’s made increasingly strong versions of its drinks and ran ads encouraging irresponsibly use of its product, like driving, it certainly would be sue-able for the actions of its consumers in some cases.
kinarism
Manufacturing and presumably profiting from a dangerous product should have the consequence of a share in responsibility in how that product is used. This would go a hell of a long ways across all industries in helping to curb corporate irresponsibility across the board.
WeSurvived45
It might be viable based on some of the ad campaigns from the gun manufacturers. Some of the company's ads actually market them in an aggressive manner.
MangaSpawn
Yeah that makes sense. Even as a gun owner though I can’t say I encounter many firearm ad campaigns.
Baelnorn
That's how they got Remington.
Sooner70
Yup. The lawsuit against Bushmaster was due to an ad campaign that had that tagline, "Consider your man card reissued." That said.... I think the best take on it I've seen is Beau of the 5th Column's (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbXTDuwSVkk)... And the ad campaigns feed right into that shit!
CE0485
Haha and yet a good chunk of that demographic that falls for that shit is so scared that a 2SLGBTQ+ person is/could be a spokes person that they pull a temper tantrum over it……
IHaveGreatKittenRecipes
I heard a radio ad for a gun store today advertising that they sell all their firearms as 'made in the U.S.A, or just not *made* at all' with an obvious inflection on the second 'made'. Like... were they seriously advertising that they sell ghost guns?
MangaSpawn
That’s weird. Or are they saying if a gun isn’t made in the US it’s junk? So strange.
StationMasterBabbleAxe
I could see either ghost guns or guns produced outside of the US as junk, however, I also thought about transgender individuals. A transgender friend states that he is now a self-made man. Just a thought with all of the current hostility towards an already marginalized community of citizens.
IHaveGreatKittenRecipes
Hell if I know, station broadcasts out of KY so that wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility.
MangaSpawn
Read it further and makes a little more sense. I guess the ability for it to happen may make manufactures be more strict with who they distribute to which is good.
NonMAGA
Cheers to you for researching the subject to have an educated opinion. Seems to not happen enough of late.
MangaSpawn
I try as I would like a reasonable solution and enjoy the conversation. The end goal would be a solution that lets responsible people enjoy something but stops the senseless violence.
TheNakedBanana
I see it as no different than the bar/bartender being legally liable for over serving a patron, and it leads to a death.
kindpanda
Which is a thing in some states but not all. E.g. WI doesn't have a dram shop law
MangaSpawn
Right but the bar and who made the alcohol are 2 very different things. I do agree if the manufacture is feeding into this with ads or distributing to known negligent stores then they should be held accountable. But in most instances they are far removed from the end user and what they do with said product.
Oooogabooga69
Bingo.
backrideup9
By that standard, manufacturers should be shut down immediately. They're not the ones running the background checks, approving the purchases, buying the guns for their crazy ass kids to take across state lines and kill people. The CEO of Colt has no say in an FFL holder selling a gun to a psycho or a lazy gov employee rubber stamping a background check. Those are the people that need to be held accountable.
NonMAGA
I agree. However, companies in any industry operate unethically and unethical gun promotion is a little different than soda companies making individual consumers fatties. The fact that firearms are basically the only industry mostly protected from these lawsuits at a federal level should be more concerning. The $73m Sandy Hook settlement showed Remington admitting their marketing of that weapon was basically as a weapon of war for the common man.
TheNakedBanana
I think everyone in the chain needs to be held liable. The kid who does it, the parents, the sellers, the manufacturers.