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I thought Moria was an entirely different mine with a different tribe of dwarves.
Sep 12, 2018 1:12 AM
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I thought Moria was an entirely different mine with a different tribe of dwarves.
Lovezombie
You fool of a Took.
Odballl
Poor Grumpy and Sleepy.
JWT07
We cannot get out.....they are coming
Freakzio
If you're interested about more of dwarf tribes in Tolkien's world check a vid by Men of the West YT channel or just other LotR world's lore
dormfive
TheDaharMaster
How did Gimli not know about Moria???
paddypaddypukepuke
Well thanks for all the replies! I feel much more informed now. It’s been 20 years since I read the books.
Dontputitinmybutt
The part were Gandalf reads their last words from the book is my favourite
jiankui
Yup. And Oin (guy with the ear horn) was killed by the Watcher in the Water.
TheJonatron
Oh shit. Never heard it coming. D:
mycatsanarsehole
It is a different mine but some of the same dwarfs apparently.
ForeverVoteless
And you call it a mine. A MINE!
miserablepileofsecrets
It’s impossible to appreciate fully the work Tolkien has done if one has not read at the very least Beowulf, Edda and Kalevala.
0000013
Moria is the elvish name of the fortress, meaning Dark Pit. For dwarwes it was Khazad-Dum, ”the dwarwen delve” it was the largest (1/2)
0000013
Dwarwen city after nogrod and belegost were destroyed near the end of Silmarillion, disappearinh with rest of Beleriand after War of Wrath.
teslina
Spoiler alert would have been nice !
Baelnorn
It's been over half a century. And this Lord of the Rings live action was done before the Hobbit.
teslina
I know but I only recently discovered Lord of the Rings. I’ve been living under a rock, I know lol
TheGuyWithTheHeadphones
AlwaysAdventurous
Drums.......drums in the deep......we cannot get out.........they are coming
Nova5269
*CLANG*
WeMistbornsNeedNotMakeSense
To be fair, Gandalf already warned them not to.
flaskfullofcoffee
True, but Moria was a point of pride & well “Dwarves”
WeMistbornsNeedNotMakeSense
lol They learned exactly nothing from the past.
harbingerjo
If i remember correctly, Gandalf says, "So he is dead then", upon discovering Balin's tomb. He suspected something bad happened. 1/2
harbingerjo
Hence he feared going into Moria. Discovering Balin's remains confirmed it. #sad 2/2
SunnyDaysandBlueSkies
He only feared going into Moria because of the impending doom that was the balrog. That's why he attempted to move swiftly and quietly 1/2
SunnyDaysandBlueSkies
Without possibly notifying the beast of their presence. It was Gandalf's own power that had awoken it. Not Pippin knocking the bucket.
joshhamwright
Still hurts that the Hobbit movies were so average. So much opportunity wasted.
MyTrueIdiotSelf990
Maybe I'm just easy to please, but I really enjoyed the hobbit movies.
evolution4407
Not trying to disagree; curious, rather: How could they have been better?
L3uCh7f3u3r
Dont make three of them, dont add shit, less cgi, more costumes, smaller story focused on the important part, more hugs for gandalf
NZSheeps
Let Peter Jackson do it properly
0000013
By making a movie or 2 from the book rather than generic action movie: middle Earth.
harbingerjo
Balin left Erebor and entered Moria with a company of dwarves including Flói, Óin, Ori, Frár, Lóni, and Náli. He discovered Durin's Axe. 1/3
harbingerjo
Balin's colony was overrun by orcs soon afterward, and Balin was killed by an orc archer in the Dimrill Dale in 2994. In The FotR, they 2/3
harbingerjo
discover Balin's tomb in the Chamber of Mazarbul. Gandalf finds the dwarves' book of records and discovers that Balin was killed by orcs.3/3
HerpeFreeSince93
Just out of curiosity, where did you find this info? I’d love to know more about the lotr lore..
Superking360
TiffaliciousA
Lmfao
ghostanom
This is beautiful
GingerLaird
I still laugh at this because this is how people would react to seeing that.
JeffersonSalesrs
"Time to unleash my full power"
thatlamer
Legolas, what do your elven eyes see?
SoludisSnake
Dont ask - legolas
RaynWisp
Lemon Party
0000013
After the events of Hobbit, around 30 years before LOTR Balin mounted an expedition to reclaim moria. They reopened some of upper chambers
0000013
And sent messages back to erebor of their proceedings. Unlike movies let to suggest Moria was not an orc dungeon, it was mostly empty.
ddTurak
The orcs moved in after the balrog killed the dwarves? Or they moved in to kill the dwarves when the dwarves tried to reclaim it?
0000013
When the balrog emerged dwarves left moria, and orcs moved in.
0000013
After the first fall of moria dwarves tried to reclaim it once (the war badly and confusedly depicted on hobbit movies) and then later
0000013
Balins expedition. The films make this confusing since these events themselves happen over such large scale If time so they dont really
0000013
For five years Balin kept khazad-dum , and after that, silence. Since erebor (lonely mountain) is FAR from misty mountains there wasnt
0000013
Really a way to check up on Balin n Co, So nobody knew What was going on. However prior to LOTR sauron sent an enjoy, a nazgul, to erebor
0000013
To Ask about bilbo and the ring, who implied that if King Dain helped sauron out sauron would ensure dwarwes would get to hold khazad-dum.
0000013
This is the reason gimli and gloin (Yes the old dwarf in LOTR on lothlorien council scene is from hobbit) are sent to ask elrond what to do.
Jounan
I get very upset when I see this pic. Mostly because people can't follow along enough to remember a name.
nagelbett
I think these were Prancer and Dancer.
AwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwYiiiiiiiis
Go to the mines of Moria they said. There would be a royal welcome they said.
dudeandthecatastrophe
In their greed, they dug too deep
k0pkl
Classic dwarves
lokishadowgirl
we cannot get out... we cannot get out... we cannot get out
dudeandthecatastrophe
FOOL OF A TOOK!!!
Septagrim
And they awakened a fiery boi.
Worldf1re
Here comes flame boi
grandslamdolf
Way fiery, like “whoosh!”
Septagrim
Like, “Fly, you fucks!”
getmo
YOU Shall Not PASS! https://youtu.be/UUmd6lujmuE
travelintimeinc
He burn..
vauhtihirmu
He attac...
commenter1337
but more importantly, he dead as fac
0000013
Moria was originally lost to orcs and the balrog right after sauron was first vanquished, nearly a millenia before LOTR. Celebrimbor who
0000013
taught Sauron how to make rings of power (sauron was posing as redeemed, Now-Good guy after silmarillion and War of Wrath) lived on
0000013
The elven city near moria during that time. That area was demolished during the Last Alliance (beginning war of LOTR movies)
Scamsquatch
Really?
Baelnorn
Ye.
JeffersonSalesrs
I didn't get it. Is the old guy, the young guy many years ago? Or they are both dead and those are their tombs?
TheJonatron
The old guy is in the tomb, the young guy was the one writing the book that Gandalf reads about the "drums in the deep" of endless goblins.
TheJonatron
And the young guy's skeleton is holding the book so he's dead. They were characters in the hobbit.
JudgementalMan
The top two were characters in the hobbit, during the LOTR trilogy, their corpses are found in Moria.
LagginAintEZ
And Oin met his end by the swamp octopus. Probably never heard him coming.
LiteCow
The D is silent
TinyOctopus
Nobody ever hears the swamp octopus. Unless, Tiny Octopus posits, the swamp octopodes are riding in their fan-boats.
Chron121
Deep in the wilds of the comments, a Tiny Octopus appears.
CyclopsSpike
*gasp* It's a TinyOctopus, in the flesh
thisaccountisnotentirelyjustforsmut
Didn't Bill die too?
Shepsus
I mean, Tolkien wrote out about 1000 years after the events of this Age, so e'erybody died
MD2Be
Actually, by various and hidden paths, Bill found his way back to Rivendell iirc
thisaccountisnotentirelyjustforsmut
Hm. Worth a reread. He *did die in the Bakshi LOTR, Im certain.
GadenKerensky
The Pony?
FloofTumbleWeeds
Bill reclaimed Moria for all the brave ponies left behind by Rohan in the final war against Sauron as they fought beside Gondor. Only >
Squossifrage
Yeah but did you see the season three finale where Bill got turned into an alicorn
FloofTumbleWeeds
No. That never happened. Bill went to live with Sam for a bit to smoke some weed
FloofTumbleWeeds
The horses were allowed to ride to battle & glory as we saw when Merry on his pony was told he could not go by King Theóden. The ponies >
FloofTumbleWeeds
We're sick of carrying children & supplies around so they grouped together & took back Moria while everyone else focused on Sauron. >
FloofTumbleWeeds
They rid it of orcs with bites, rears & kicks & then took up residence there until middle earth was safe again.
fadingtheory
Yes. Some of the dwarves who quested in the Hobbit went and colonized Moria (Briefly, obviously).
Gammelfar
I am glad that those idiots from the Hobbit movie got what they deserved
CiphersEnergise
Preferred them in fellowship over the hobbit tbh
MildlyConcernedTV
Well at least they had 50 more years of happiness (time between the books)
S4mw1se
I mean, we all saw those rows and rows of pillars in what I assume is the great hall. Those alone must've taken decades.
MortallyChallenged
That was all already built centuries before, the ones who died in pic above were only trying to take it back, they didn't build it.
Shepsus
Until Gimli goes and reclaims it again, if memory serves
Mizven
Wrong, Gimli went to creat his own in the caverns of Helm Deep.
TheJonatron
With glittering rocks, and dwarf hookers.
Cineric
And blackjack
fadingtheory
Durian VII did.
AngMoPrime
The smelliest of the Dwarf kings
Faustbear
Ah yes, Durian VII, the Dwarf King of Fruits
paddypaddypukepuke
Okay so SOME of those dwarves, not the whole group, and it’s a totally different mine than the Misty Mountains?
evilgriff
Same mine as the LOTR movies. Different mine from the Hobbit.
VileSlay
Only Balin, Oin and Ori were the only ones of the 13 that went to Moria.
TheJonatron
Only only.
MantisTobagganMD
Also, an Oxford comma wouldn't go amiss here.
SamanosukeOnimusha
Yes it is different.
PhantomOfTheDopera
Yes. I suggest reading the books
paddypaddypukepuke
Read them 20 years ago
ExtremelyHilariousandSexy
Just skip all the Tom Bombadil bullshit
otempura
Hey dol, merry dol! Ring a song Dillo! I love Tom bombadil he’s a sweetheart
ExtremelyHilariousandSexy
He nearly ruined LOTR for me
aeronaut005
Why would you skip the best part of the books?
otempura
But I hate autocorrect for changing dong to song :/
Thorinori
Moria is under the Misty Mountains, the Lonely Mountain is VERY far to the East of the Misty Mountains.
Squossifrage
Not very far, no. It's actually closer than the Shire, about the same distance as Bree. But it's much further north than Moria.
Thorinori
Overall it is still pretty damn far
Squossifrage
About two weeks on foot, maybe less, if you don't get waylaid and imprisoned by wood elves on the way.
levelfivedetentionblockaa23
That’s why Gimli loses it when he sees the carnage.
Solblazer86
I guess the correct term is "Aftermath"
Odincdaj522004
Here lies Balin, son of Fundin, Lord of Moria
AzgarOgly
Balin Fundinul Uzbad Kazaddumu
Chron121
He is dead then. It is as I feared.
Zreen
They have a cave troll.
asianmilkspray
I always find this bit a little weird. How can Gimli not know Moria is lost? How can his clan not know 1 of the biggest dwarven society 1/2
asianmilkspray
all perished? Is it better explained in the books? 2/2
airforceteacher
Much better. Gimli knew all about the fall of Moria and the attempt to reclaim it. He wanted to take that route.
Chron121
No, Balin wasn't from Moria, he tried to reclaim it. By the time of the books it had been empty for centuries.
AttackoftheRobotMonkeys
like so much better explained, read it for sure
Camelspotting
Iirc dwarves have very insulated communities that they rarely leave so they don't talk m
Camelspotting
*much
Tassyr
At that point is it carnage though? I always assumed carnage implied 'fresh.'
Insomnia297
'Carn' talks about flesh. Carnivore, carnival, carnage.
bosskcradossk
The ghastly remains
dogbeachesarethebestbeaches
gigaimpact
I'd say it's fresh to him though. Believe in the appendix it tells of Balin taking an army to secure the mines and weren't heard from sense
gigaimpact
Since*? Weren't heard from again lol
HaniiPuppy
Hyperion319
Too soon man, too soon
Gloobert47
Just think, those firebenders were roided out on Sozin's comet.
SamanosukeOnimusha
Carnage : the flesh of slain animals or humans. OR : great and usually bloody slaughter or injury. -Kerrigan Webster
FrostyOblivion
In other words, no, this would not be carnage as all the flesh is gone and there are no injuries, only the dead.
cowpiefatty
Im sure the queen of blades would be okay with this definition.
Ryebread91
Who’s she?
DanBearCat
Sarah Kerrigan, the Queen of blades, is one of the primary protagonists and antagonists in the starcraft series.
SamanosukeOnimusha
Merriam*
Ultemus
No, the Queen of Blades defines carnage, no one else
DeadlyFood
I like that it autocorrected to Kerrigan
IllychTortorovald
When the zerg overmind took over Tarsonis, Kerrigan devoted her life as the Queen of Blades to writing dictionaries.