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anotherdickat
If you need the threat of hell to be good, you are not a good person, you are just a bad person on a leash.
HighMagosSquidward
You can justify anything as divine will. So it's almost like believing in nothing.
theInfinitelyProlonged
LaffertyDanie1
Iaimtomisbehave
The founders understood history and what religion had done to Europe and the Middle East and South America etc. for two thousand years hence the separation. And yet here we are.
Nnoodles
It is 100% dependent on whether or not you are a part of their religion. It is unfortunate that discrimination and bigotry exist. With the sheer amount of different religions, the major differences with those religions, the inspired cult like following a lot of them create.... It is no wonder that it would have the opposite affect like Rooney suggested.
trippingthelightfantastic
CloseupCaptionReaction
Not only Christian love...
SergeantMajorSpoiler
As a recovering Lutheran, it absolutely does not.
VibratingNipples
Just look at human history, people has killed each other because of religion
theInfinitelyProlonged
Still are.
Isgrimnur
Andy Rooney was a treasure. And a storied WWII reporter.
ThePastmaster
My favourite bit about 60 Minutes when I was a kid.
ThePunishersVengefulBrother
I read him voraciously as a fatherless kid. I think he helped to mold (mould?) my character. I also think that was a good thing.
lucidbarrier
It definitely helps teach the basics like being good to other people, having patience and just generally being a good person. The main problem with religion is people become extreme and try to force it on other people.
Trelis
The book teaches that, but the right wing doesn't read. Or rather they intentionally misread, both the bible and the constitution.
lucidbarrier
I didn't say anything about right wing or left wing. Absolutely not one thing about politics. What's funny is that average imgurian shits on religion but is a fanatic about Star Wars, LOTR, D&D and anime characters and can deep dive into all those subjects like a religious zealot. Talk about hypocrisy
Trelis
The amount of people that believe SW, LoTR, D&D are real, are practically zero, and none of them are trying to enforce any rules from those unto other people. They have no evil impact upon the world, unlike religious texts which have been and are being used for a lot of evil in this world.
AgnosticPaladin
This is extremely stupid. Can you point out some instances where anyone believed Star Wars or LOTR are the true history and scientists are wrong? Or where people decided to write laws based on them, or discriminate against Star Trek fans? Because i can open the news any day and see examples of that with religion.
JobbieFace
The difference is we know those things are fantasy and appreciate them for their art
MajorNikon
The reverse is true. It just makes people feel better about being a festering asshole.
BatmanAndCradleRobin
It straight up gives justification for being evil while feeling like being good and regarded by others as good.
SpaceballsTheComment
Counterpoint:
MajorNikon
Pretty sure Fred Rogers would have been a nice guy with or without religion.
atheosxlii
SarcasticComment
the largest assholes in my family are the most openly religious. it's a disgusting statement of judgement and ego.
JackieTreehornProductions
Being forgiven for your sins isn’t a green light to continue bad behavior
SarcasticComment
I'd be shocked if they saw their acts as sinful. Instead, it's the ego of being "the best good boy to ever good boy" which gives them the moral authority to never be wrong.
SarcasticComment
the same way millionaire preachers see their wealth as a "blessing" instead of a systematic system of abuse often targeting the needy.
ArcanisTheOmnipotent
So the issue is not having religion doesn’t make you a better person either. It’s almost like if people are jerks their belief system doesn’t change that.
AgnosticPaladin
“With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil - that takes religion.” Steven Weinberg.
ArcanisTheOmnipotent
I disagree with that statement. I don't think good people need religion to do evil. I don't think good and bad people exclusively do good and bad things. In fact, the idea of someone being a "Good person" or a "Bad person" is naive and childish.
AgnosticPaladin
A quick example would be: a person who thinks someone is a witch or possessed, and torturing them to death would save their soul. I agree it's stupid (and never that clear-cut), but that's the point: if you believe crazy, stupid and unproven stuff, you will do crazy, stupid, and sometimes evil things, even with the best intentions.
ArcanisTheOmnipotent
I understand and there are clear examples of that through history. But I think it is inaccurate and unfair to paint a certain group of people with only the bad that some members have committed. And to task all of its members with the regulation of its other members. It's like me telling you that you are a bad person because of the billionaires ruining the environment, weird example but you see what I mean.
schrodingerscatfood
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can also be dismissed without argument.” – Hitchens’s razor
MajorNikon
The strength of your conviction should be commensurate with the strength of your evidence
Nowisgood1951
" I burned the candle at both ends and bathed in its warm glow"
shyasen
PROVE IT!
Nowisgood1951
it was a Christopher Hitchens quote before he died
TalkingSnake
tiderfish
Ugh what a weird time
TheRealDale
I didn’t believe that Bible story about a talking snake, but I do now.
TalkingSnake
I was framed.
chewybrian
^When you look up 'hypocrite' in the dictionary and they have a picture...
GonnaGitChuSucka
I’d imagine that dictionary picture to be a photo collage of every politician in American history
CheeseGreaterGood
Every conservative politician ever and the occasional liberal politician*
GonnaGitChuSucka
Bwahahahaaa. How’s the Kool-Aid taste this year?