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Epic fantasy set in a world the "lighteyes" rule and the "darkeyes" follow or are enslaved. Thousands of years ago, great Heralds bore shard weapons and plate armor they summoned from the mist to fight the evil void walkers... One day they all left without explanation, throwing down their weapons and abandoning their posts. Now their legacy is tied to the fate of a large collection of main POV characters. It's part of Sanderson's Cosmere universe, so it has several ties to his other novels and series.
Nearly 300 years in the future, mankind has colonized the solar system and that's about it. 30 billion on Earth under the United Nations, nine billion on Mars under the Mars Congressional Republic, and 50 to 100 million living in the colonies, outposts, farms, water mines, etc. of the Belt. Tensions are high, as Earth and Mars (the Inners) exploit the resources of the Belt (Belters) while giving nothing but cracked skulls and bad drugs in return. Thanks to automation and the vast resources in the solar system, Earth is overpopulated by people who couldn't work even if they wanted to, so a large portion of Earthers are on Basic. Mars' technology, especially their military and navy, are the most advanced in the solar system. And now something has been found that will light the fires of war between all the factions. It also has a critically-acclaimed television show on SyFy/Amazon.
Another military science fiction series set in the far future. After Earth was destroyed a thousand years ago, Humans allied with two alien species to get revenge and eventually wiped out their aggressors down to the last child. Now that alliance has overturned the millennia-old bureaucratic empire that allowed Earth's destruction in the first place. One of the most powerful ships in that war becomes entangled in political subterfuge, blackmail, and assassinations, and the crew find themselves working with the aliens they just defeated to uncover 25,000-year-old secrets.
A military science fiction series set in present/near-future Earth. One day an alien species attacks Earth without warning, only to be fought off by a second alien species they've been warring with for centuries. Turns out there's an immense galaxy-wide war between two super-advanced alien races, but instead of fighting directly, they use various less advanced client species to fight an unending war.
These books are wonderfully different from pretty much anything else I've ever read. The world experiences apocalyptic, earth-shattering quakes and volcanic activity frequently enough that it has become a "fifth season." There are those who are born with the ability to touch and move tectonics, mitigating (or causing) quakes and volcanoes. These people are found at a young age and brought to a central city to be trained and conscripted into service to the state. Society prefers central latitude characteristics, such as dark skin and kinky hair, and disfavors far north and south latitude characteristics, such as light skin and straw colored straight hair. The books are inclusive and even celebratory of differing sexualities and genders.
A millennia ago, the hero defeated evil, and then the world turned to shit. Also set in Sanderson's Cosmere series, the books center around a group of free Skaa (the largely enslaved people in the books), specifically a young woman and a band of rogues who set out to change the destroyed world they've always known. Magic in this world involves consuming and using metals to enhance strength, fling metal, manipulate emotions, among other things. Ash constantly falls from the sky, the sun is cold and red, and the hero from a millennia ago is now the immortal emperor of a dystopian world. The real history of the world has been all but forgotten.
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EDIT: Damn, I guess y'all actually wanted fantasy/sci-fi series recommendations. Feel free to send your own, but also discuss below for the benefit of others! Happy reading!
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EDIT 2: Man, y'all some commenting motherfuckers. I LOVE IT! So great to see all you avid readers trading recommendations in the comments hours later. <3
HoernChenM
Otherland Series
psychobob19846
Just a FYI the way of kings is a great read, but years between books. And no where close to done
MotherOfEveryone
Brandon FUCKING Sanderson. I love that guy.
PatrickDiomedes
Everyone should check out the Shades of Magic series by V.E. Schwab. Especially if you loved Vin in Mistborn
Mitchz95
The Expanse is SO good.
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Drakon2k2
Illumine is also a good book series.
ivorht
DAMN FUCKING RIGHT, I DO!
ivorht
Tag me in, like a bitch!
DaMaffers
I'm about to finish the stormlight archive. IT IS AWESOME! Reading Warbreaker then onto the Mistborn series.
RatsLiveOnNoEvilStar
You might see some familiar faces in Warbreaker.
nyxandria
Expeditionary Force is a great. Less "Chosen One saving humanity", more "humans are here to fight everything. In space".
kei86
I was skeptical on the series. Its what I call fast-food sci-fi because it doesn't ask big questions usually. Its fun to read though!
FeChefImgur
yes, yes I do, thank you :)
SubtleHarbinger
I just finished Brandon Sanderson's Steelheart series. I loved it and highly recommend it.
clsairrifle
After reading all current Stormlight books, I’m now just getting to Mistborn. Kinda wish I had read these first but still a solid read.
RatsLiveOnNoEvilStar
If you’ve finished Oathbringer, make sure to read Warbreaker. There are some really strong Cosmere connections.
clsairrifle
Noted. Will probably get that after I finish Mistborn
Brandelo
Not one person has mentioned The Dark Tower. Disappointing seeing a fantasy book post without it listed.
sgtwhiskeyjack
It's a great series, and that's the truth.
noctynight
You should check out The Black Company by Glen Cook. Really awesome series and I love the writing style.
noctynight
Also, the Farseer Trilogy is fantastic too.
moose9377
Two great recs here.
TempusFugitive
If you enjoy Sanderson's writing, you'll enjoy Scott Lynch - the Lies of Locke Lamora is a good read. Also Brent Weeks, as others have said
TempusFugitive
If you enjoy excellent fantasy writing in general - Neil Gaiman, Steven Erikson and Steven King's Dark Tower are my highest recommendations.
AllThingsNinja
fucking love that series
HankHell2400
Thank god no one has mentioned Terry Goodkind. His Sword of Truth series is one of the dumbest, most awful things ever written.
norwegiansilverfox
Also Mark Lawrence's "Prince of Thorns". Icky blech.
riggeroo
Plot: main character is basically god in training. Becomes god in penultimate chapter. Forgets it all in the last. Rinse, repeat.
DamagedDingo
You forgot all the rape..
Retsam19
If you like Sanderson's stuff, I highly recommend checking out the Lightbringer series by Brent Weeks. It's really an amazing series.
sgtwhiskeyjack
It really does feel like a Sanderson series, doesn't it?
Retsam19
It's very Sanderson-esque in it's magic and worldbuilding, but a fair bit darker in tone. Not quite GRRM-esque, but tending that way.
yourebreathtaking
can't wait for "The Burning White"
yourebreathtaking
supposed to be out this month, although I heard it was delayed til next year.
Retsam19
Yeah, it should be out next year, probably about a year from now. (Late summer or fall)
riggeroo
Is the lightbringer series the one with the chroma?
Retsam19
Yeah, the Chromeria and light-based magic.
riggeroo
I heard that book 4 was mainly filler compared to the rest, so I’ve decided to wait until 5 comes out and binge the pair of them
Jhecht
Definitely upvote for both Brandon Sanderson novels. Also the follow up series to Mistborn is pretty good too (my wife and I both enjoy it)
RatsLiveOnNoEvilStar
I think he Wax and Wayne books are even better than the original trilogy. Sanderson has grown a lot as a writer
naddacop
WHAT?! I did not even know this was a thing. I was crushed when I finished the original trilogy. I need more!
Ganondorky
Alloy of Law, Shadows of Self and Bands of Mourning for the curious. Sanderson is working on the 4th book. Totally stoked for it.
riggeroo
Isn’t he doing a third trilogy set further in the future?
PatrickDiomedes
yep. after the last Wax&Wayne book, the next one will be set in the equivalent of the 80s, IIRC
Jhecht
I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THIS HELLS YEAH
RatsLiveOnNoEvilStar
There will be an 80’s/90’s technology trilogy and then a sci-fi level trilogy
ObscureReferencing
HYPERION
UmmonPrime
One of favorites https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperion_Cantos
GoodOmens
KWATZ!! Hyeprion contos is the best SF series i read...
Primordius72
And Endymion
slightlysavage
If I may suggest, The Name of The Wind and A Wise Man's Fear (both of the king killer chronicle series) by Patrick Rothfuss
AllThingsNinja
just finished those last week! =D
RatsLiveOnNoEvilStar
I loved these books, but I can’t recommend this series until he actually announces a date for the third book.
memphisfan92
The 2nd book kind of dragged on at parts compared to the first. I still loved it but I didn’t think it was as good as the first
RatsLiveOnNoEvilStar
I enjoyed them both as well as Slow Regard of Silent Things, but I just can't suggest it to people until I know the third one is coming out.
memphisfan92
Yeah I started reading way of kings right after, from what I understand he doesn’t have a problem putting books out.
RatsLiveOnNoEvilStar
Sanderson is a workhorse. Not only is he constantly producing but he is transparent about what he is working on. 1/2
GGCrono
Wishing no disrespect, am I the only nerd on the face of this planet who didn't like The Name of the Wind all that much?
kubit
I couldn't finish the book personally. I'm still very confused by all the praise it gets.
ConservationOfAss
Same
ffips
possibly. I just finished it yesterday in a week, thought it was great.
RandomLettersAssortment
We all have our tastes. I, for one, loved that book. I despise The Last of Us, so that's that. No judgement.
ConservationOfAss
NOTHING HAPPENED
TakWriterOfWorlds
They weren’t terrible, but they are way over hyped.
annoyingjoe
I agree. Wasn't bad but I'm struggling to get through the second book
TakWriterOfWorlds
It was good, he definitely put a lot of work into building the world. But I don’t really have any interest in reading the third book.
brekko
My favorite fantasy series ever is The Night Angel trilogy by Brent Weeks, didn't see anyone else mention it so I'll throw that in
TheBeastRabban
I read Lightbringer series before Night Angel series. I MUCH prefer Lightbringer and it seems to me that Weeks learned a lot writing Night A
ReignOfError
That's how I felt, too. Night Angel is fun, but Lightbringer is seriously up there in quality.
DamagedDingo
I just reread night angel and the new revision is a lot better. I think it’s left parts open for more like the woman he awakens in the tower
yourebreathtaking
I thought those were okay, but have you read his Lightbringer Series??? The final book is coming soon, and it is awesome.
totallyrealname
I started it before I found out the final book isn't out yet, now I'm stuck here with book series blue balls. Real good stuff.
trescatorcedieciseis
Yes! I just recommended to someone in the comments above. It's simply amazing.
Slytherwin
I was enourmously disappointed with Mistborn.
TheGhostofLionelHutz
I felt like the storytelling, world building, and crew of personalities surrounding Vin more than made up for her 2-dimensional set.
blessedbl4d3
That is a shame. The world building is great. The second trilogy might be my favorite sets of books ever created.
CameForNatalieDormer
Did you finish the trilogy? I have a friend who hated it for years then finished it and said the ending changed his opinion entirely.
Moghul
Yeah. The main character has less personality than a wooden plank.
OddOod
But, like, the reason for that is entirely justified by book 1. No one in the society (or at least the serf class) has personality.
Moghul
Yeah but the character still has zero personality by the end, after spending time with more interesting characters. There is plenty time 1/
Moghul
development, and it really feels like there's very little. I disagree that I should like the character just because they're MEANT to be 2/
Moghul
a brick wall. "This cake tastes like shit" "AH but it's MEANT to taste like shit." (time for development**) 3/3
socratesboytoy
Lol there is literally a blob creature with more personality than vin
ConservationOfAss
Mistborn is about 1/3 as engaging as the Stormlight Archives IMO
destinoz
No fantasy list is complete without Robin Hobb. Start with Assassins apprentice and read every trilogy set in that beautiful painful world.
gorbal
I read the first trilogy and it was so very meh. I like her world building, but not her characters.
yourebreathtaking
I liked them, but it really is fucking torturous. Poor protagonist can't catch a break, it's just so much self flaggellating agony
destinoz
Torturous is right, by the end I desperately wanted fitz to just be happy, but Robin Hobb did a big thing showing that winning doesn't 1/2
destinoz
heal the mental damage. He can never shake the fear, self loathing, or self sabotage. Rarely do we see a hero presented in such a way. 2/2
yourebreathtaking
Also the most retarded protagonist name ever, "Fitzchivalry".
OddOod
@OP Have you read any Peter F Hamilton? Try Pandora's Star.
Tchernobog
Thirded. Loved the books. I am trying to change my career to acting and I hope that they make a TV series and I can get a part!
OddOod
Awesome, though, I hope you have a fallback for that pie-in-the-sky goal.
Tchernobog
I see it more as an "eventually" thing. I have plans and a path I know I need to follow to get started. Funding's the issue!
RandomAbscessMemories
Seconded. Hamilton is a bit dry, and his characters aren't the greatest, but the worlds and technology he builds are fascinating.
OddOod
He did embed the best damn fantasy story I have read in the Void trilogy. Eddiard is an amazing character
RandomAbscessMemories
Indeed. The part where he figured out his time trick was one of the greatest roller coasters in a book I've come across.
destinoz
The man writes like he’s paid by the word but I really enjoyed Pandora’s star and Judas Unchained. Great recommendation.
OddOod
have you read the Void trilogy? It's 1200 years in the commonwealth future
destinoz
Not yet, but it’s on the list so I’ll work my way to it soon enough.
Tchernobog
I kinda found the 'alternate' part of that story to be more interesting than the commonwealth part, but still loved it all.
OddOod
I'm genuinely thinking about extracting all the dreams and making a book for my SO
spinedwurm
I recommend the First Law Trilogy by Joe Abercrombie. One of the best fantasy series I've read. It starts off kinda slow but it's great.
KnightsOfShame
Yeah, I don’t think it started slow. Any scene with nine fingers isn’t slow :)
AllThingsNinja
logan mother fucking 9 fingers
TheBeastRabban
Does it start out slow? I thought it started out with Ninefingers foightetin with some flatheads.
spinedwurm
yeah but that didn't seem interesting to me. I didn't get hooked til the Glotka parts and the character development of Jezal
AllThingsNinja
same
destinoz
Jim Butcher! Dresden, is basically required reading, but Codex Alera is a fun series as well. Then you’ll know about Steak and New Boots.
Christovsk
I love the lore of mythical creatures and magic in Dresden files. So good. Just wish he didn't write scenes with women like a horny nerd.
Bioxus
But his books are basically written for horny nerds xD
stinkingyeti
To be fair to that style, Dresden himself is a nerd who rarely gets laid, so it suits the character.
Traykin
Anytime Steven Erikson's Malazan Book of the Fallen is not on the list it instantly discredits the list :(
Traykin
dont get me wrong though I love Brandon Sanderson!
yourebreathtaking
I've tried to start that one a few times, it's tough, I couldn't do it.
Tortfeas0r
It’s too complex of a read for most people as you’re just thrown into a world with a well-defined (but not initially explained) magic/gods
socratesboytoy
It needs a list of its own.
LostWorm
I love the series, but it's not for everyone. I try to gauge a person's tastes carefully before recommending it; I don't think I have yet.
moose9377
If they have good taste, recommend it. If they're a pleb, don't bother.
totallyrealname
It's a love/hate kind of series. Either people couldn't even get past the first book, or its the best thing ever written. No inbetween.
DamagedDingo
I read them all but didn’t think they were that good.
uplock
And the paired Ian Esslemont books, the series is at the very top of my 'must read' list for anyone that reads fantasy.
Traykin
I wont lie, that first book throws you into the middle of it and leaves you to figure out the whole gods,races and magic.
Traykin
it honestly could use a companion book to explain it all lol but a quick wikki search can set it all quite easily strait for you.
Traykin
he just doesn't have characters or narration in it purely for the purpose of exposition. it wouldn't be organic. you wouldnt have...
Traykin
some randome recruit who has never heard of magic or gods and needed to have everything explained in detail to them. they would be aware..
anarklay
Have you checked out the Demon Cycle by Peter Brett? Also The Kingkiller Chronicles by Pat Rothfuss.. still waiting on book 3 of that tho
StrykersWill
Waiting like Sum 41
trescatorcedieciseis
I heard the 3rd book is about to get released. I'm actually reading again the first 2 :)
riggeroo
Blasphemy.
Shockandawmanwasthatdissapointing
you will never stop waiting XD
EmporioIvankov
The Demon Cycle began so promisingly. I won't pay money for them after the way Brett wrote about rape though. I can't support that.
SirGellahad
How did he write about rape?
tepidbread
The ending of the Demon Cycle was kind of “meh” imo. King Killer and Stormlight are much better series.
anarklay
Agree, i enjoyed the action and most of the story but the end left a little to be desired.Would be fun if Studio Ghibli got their hands onit
WoeToHice
Demon Cycle was such a disappointment: book 1 book was awesome, 2 and 3 were pretty good, 4 was a drag, 5 was predictable and uninspired.
riggeroo
The demon cycle lost some serious steam at book 3 though. I couldn’t continue after that.
Antalis
I agree.
jkirshy81
It's worth sticking with it. The new POV characters grow on you and the ending is satisfying.
Thrashface
I agree 100%
TimmyTheMonkey
Just finished last book and it was soo painful too read towards the end. Just wanted to know how it ends, but i am kind of dissapointed :(
daingledan666
Yeah, i waited so long for that and by the end it was just kind of meh. Loved the first four though and the series as a whole.
charliebrommel
The demon cycle is great if you love trash.
stinkingyeti
The demon cycle was an amazing random find for me. I picked up the first book in the sale section at a local bookstore and freaking lvoed it
CanadianWinter81
Patrick Rothfuss has been quoted in an article written by The Times stating "A trilogy? Who said anything about a trilogy? Its a Troll-ogy."
TakWriterOfWorlds
“I’m the guy that tricked you into reading a million word prologue.”
ffips
I just finished the 1st in Kingkiller in less than a week. it's Amazing
riggeroo
Don’t rush to the second. The third is like 5 years in the making.
ffips
Started it yesterday.
riggeroo
Oh no!
ffips
No worries, I have a few other series to tide myself over.
spappy
I did the same but it was both. And I immediately reread them. Best I’ve read in years
EmporioIvankov
Rothfuss writes these books so rereads are *required*. So read at your pace. Let it stew for a year. Come back. See twice as much as before.
ffips
Probably will.
jbkudos
Don't read or too fast... you'll be poised waiting for the 3rd
ffips
Starting the 2nd today. I'm aware of the wait. Between this and GRRM, so many other series to try.
admiralcrackbar
Rothfuss is garbage.
pandasmakemehappy
I wouldn't say that but I'd say he fucked up the pacing royally. Book 2 is over and his main character has barely finished puberty
admiralcrackbar
It's the worst kind of anachronistic, self-insertion, wish-fulfillment, power fantasy I've read in a decade.
admiralcrackbar
I've read novels for Halo and Warhammer 40k that were little more than advertising and were still better than the garbage he grunts out.
pandasmakemehappy
And he still has years to cover with this guy becoming this legendary figure before he can start the present day story
riggeroo
Still got 9 rings(?) to get. In. A. Book.
SkiptheMighty
Rothfuss is a serial reviser, like 300+ rewrites per book
imakeurglassesfoggy
No wonder its so good
SederHishtalshelus
Exactly
riggeroo
I also think he has realised that he left too much for the 3rd book. He’s better off making a trilogy of trilogies.
baiin
Yeah I remember finishing A Wise Man's Fear and going: 'ok there's no way he can wrap this up in one final installment!'
thefellerwhathadthatusername
Wouldn't be the first series to do so. I finally checked out the first 2 a couple of weeks ago and they were just EXCELLENT.
riggeroo
2 of my favourite books to date.
Diewithasmile
I heard book three is due out on the 29th of neveruary
TiniestFox
My hopes got SO high until the end of that sentence
Diewithasmile
Sorry, it just kind of came out...
TragicStory
Unlike the book.
TheNonInsestuousJaime
dragon3leg
Way of the Kings is the best high fantasy series I’ve read since The Wheel of Time. It’s no wonder considering Sanderson’s ties to it.
Diofant
Its an amazing series but you PROBABLY dont want to start reading Cosmere there. There's a decent reading order to them if you care.
riggeroo
The Witcher is pretty awesome as well. That needs some love in this thread.
Dalael
I loved Way of Kings. Never could finish Wheel of Time.
TygrF
@OP neglected to mention the amazing ARTWORK that's absolutely integral to the world-building in these books.
Imtheonecuttingonions
My favorite will always be the Codex Alera series
BayazTheBenevolent
I dropped Wheel Of Time halfway through book 7. It's become such a drag, nothing ever happens and if it does it's always some curveball
BayazTheBenevolent
that doesn't make much sense at that point and is explained late after the fact, if at all. I prefer Sanderson's works.
SpacemanSpiff1000
It really is, mistbirn and WotK world building is fucking astonishing. Also there is jasnah the most badass female character ever written
BayazTheBenevolent
Oh yeah, that's something I really like about Sanderson. He writes amazing female characters that don't EVER tug their braids!
SpacemanSpiff1000
Haha yes vin is a badass too. Except shallan, especially in the first 2 books, she whines sooooo much.
BayazTheBenevolent
To be fair Shallan went through some rough shit and seems to be getting worse compared to the others.
JoSTL15
I hate how he changes his books through his QA’s though. I’ve lost all interest in him
PatrickDiomedes
what do you mean?
socratesboytoy
But have you heard of our Lord Steven Erikson and the Malazan Book of the Fallen?
Antalis
Dont forget Count ian c esslemont. Those books have nice ties ins for the series.
socratesboytoy
True. He did co write it
dragon3leg
Absolutely loved that series as well
JayZZTopGun21
For coltaine, for the wickans, for the fallen!
az1471
Got to the second last book in Malazan and couldn't finish it. Absolutely love it until (spoilers next post)
az1471
Whiskeyjack got killed off
socratesboytoy
That is not the second to last one lol. That happens in book 3?
az1471
Yeah I kept going because I hate not finishing a series
ParsivaI
Same, I went from Mistborn to way of kings, and then just read every Sanderson work I could find. Favourite author by far
memphisfan92
The name of the wind is really good too
TheDweadPiwateWoberts
Straight up - when in doubt, I just read Sanderson. Currently making my way through Warbreaker
ReignOfError
Warbreaker was the first thing of is I read (besides Wheel of Time). Such a colorful universe.
JayZZTopGun21
Would it blow your mind to know they are connected?
Havak
I'm sure if they've read everything by Sanderson, they know this by now :P.
Tr3v0r07
Considering the Hoid/Wit appearances in every book.
Havak
Plus there's the Mistborn Secret History book which kinda starts to blow everything wide open.
JayZZTopGun21
The cosmere! Read all of them, not every Sanderson novel is a cosmere novel, and with each reread Sanderson's genius becomes more evident.
ParsivaI
He's right, I know about the cosmere, it is awesome though
filthyoldmanwhore
I've been trying to read way of the kings few times now, but I can't continue after the first 30 to 40 pages. Somehow I hate the way it's
filthyoldmanwhore
written
grumpydwarf
It is such a slow start, I agree. But power through and you will be rewarded. Know that the next 2 don't start as slow.
ChorizoPig
Me too. Liked everything else of his I've read. Can't get traction on WOK. It's unreadable.
memphisfan92
It takes a little bit to get into and the start doesn’t really make sense till later. It is definitely worth it.
ChorizoPig
I have tried four times to read it and just can't. Love all his other series though.
Tr3v0r07
Get the audiobook. Michael Kramer is a fantastic reader. They have them in Graphic Audio as well.
ChorizoPig
That's not a bad idea. I'll see if my library has the audio version.
memphisfan92
I just listen to it before I go to sleep or while driving.
Bulvox77k
The third book is amazing and very dark
socratesboytoy
I havent read it yet, just cant handle another engrossing experience that ends in another years wait. I only read finished series now
TheGhostofLionelHutz
Your loss. You may be in for another 15-20 year wait before Sanderson ties off the entire Cosmere, despite his prolific pace.
Tr3v0r07
At least read Mistborn. It has such a unique "magic" system in it.
socratesboytoy
Oh ive read everything sanderson has written besides oathbringer.
zakkyfarms
I lost all momentum in the WOT series when I got to book 8. Sanderson is even more detailed than Jordan.
Christovsk
Sanderson doesn't seem to grasp his Jordan's style. The final book felt different in tone altogether, and the epilogue was just unnecessary.
FractalChainsaw
The epilogue was mostly written by Jordan, iirc.
LordofGoats
You do recall correctly.
archerzone
8-10 are rough, but they pick up! 12-14 are incredible.
LordofGoats
The books 7-9 bog is the thing that prevents me from fully recommending the series. But those aren't Brandon. He's definitely less detailed.
LordofGoats
BS: She sat on a wooden stool. RJ: She sat on a stool made of rich cherry wood from the Mountains of Mist, carved in the Taraboner style.
BayazTheBenevolent
RJ, continued: Stools like this one weren't commen on this side of the Spine of the World for [launches into a story about Hawkwing]
EmporioIvankov
I used to complain about "the tapestries". "Ooooh the tapestries! Did you know there's a boar AND an elk? The tapestries! Hnnnnnnnng!"
imakeurglassesfoggy
I thought WOK was so boring! I got a third of the way through. sanderson’s other novels and the rest of the list is spot on.
ChorizoPig
Same. Love his other series. Can't plow through this one.
BayazTheBenevolent
WoK is like 90% world building, so it can be a harsh entry point. But for the record, the two books after that are the best I ever read.
bward141989
I'm weirdly the opposite. Love WoK, can't stand his other works for some reason
LordYathnon
Sanderson has said that WoK has the highest barrier to entry. But if you push through it and learn the world, trust me it's the best. (1/2)
LordYathnon
It has the most unique world, most diverse and interesting characters, and in my opinion, the coolest magic system in The Cosmere. (2/2)
Shineupordown
Before i read any of this books are they finished or you have to wait for the next one in 10 years ?:)
maynardboyz0224
There are 6 finished mistborn books and at least 4 more yet to be written
maynardboyz0224
And 3 stormlite archive books been written and Sanderson plans on writing 7 more.
Shineupordown
Wait,so complete story is not finished,those books arent standalone ?You have to wait 7 more (aka 10 years) for full story or?
maynardboyz0224
Stormlite 2 arcs each consisting of 5 books. You get a great story even if you just read the first 3, they are all about a 1000 pages.
Shineupordown
Still not sure does that mean mistborn complete story is finished or you need to wait for those 4 mores ?
maynardboyz0224
Mistborn has 3 story arcs the first one is done the 2nd one has one more book that has not been written and the 3rd one has not been started
Diewithasmile
The latest one in the series was simply amazing
Eightbitshik
I agree. I only dislike how much Kaladin struggles with what is right all the time =/
Diewithasmile
I partially agree, being a former slave must leave a man conflicted. I’m just waiting on the damned armor already lol
memphisfan92
Shallan is still kind of annoying to me, Szeth I am starting to like a lot more.
TheDweadPiwateWoberts
Yeah, but that's why he has made such an effective series - the characters have real dilemmas and aren't just tropes. Even Dalinar, the 1/2
TheDweadPiwateWoberts
paragon of virtue, has his moments of slip-up. Sadeas, himself, one of the villains of the story, has much of his agenda guided by 2/3
TheDweadPiwateWoberts
paragon of virtue, has his moments of slip-up. Sadeas, himself, one of the villains of the story, has much of his agenda guided by 2/3
TheDweadPiwateWoberts
paragon of virtue, has his moments of slip-up. Sadeas, himself, one of the villains of the story, has much of his agenda guided by 2/3
Eightbitshik
Yeah which I liked in the first book.
SpacemanSpiff1000
I'm on book 7 of wheel of time I still fucking hate a majority of the women. Why are they so hypocritical and sometimes just fuckin mean.
sgtwhiskeyjack
I truely hated that series. Even after Sanderson took over. I don't understand why it's so loved. I enjoy realistic characterization.
sgtwhiskeyjack
The whole relationship between men and women seems to be the outdated notion "Men can never understand women." So they make the women ...
sgtwhiskeyjack
Purely irrational creatures that will yell and scream at the drop of a hat. If this is how he views women. I truely feel sorry for him. Also
sgtwhiskeyjack
The bdsm made this feel more like a fanfiction at times. Spanked, beaten, and collared women. Not to mention a society of women that love
BayazTheBenevolent
Because Jordan had a very, VERY weird perception on women. This and his tendency to drag shit out over hundreds of pages made me drop WoT.
Diewithasmile
THANKYOU!! It’s like a SJW wrote that book in some parts! It was hard to get through at times
ArilynArt
Yeah Robert Jordan knew nothing about writing women sadly.
Christovsk
Partially as a departure from women fantasy tropes, partially because their culture raised them to behave that way, and some are just mean.
TsunamiJohn
Also, only women could use magic without going insane. A few thousand years of that kind of power imbalance would embed itself on a culture.
archerzone
Keep it up, they are annoying but it's worth it. I'm rereading them now and I'm on book 11. I think of the White Tower chapters as lulls.
Garmiet
The men weren’t great either. They alternated between shrugging submissively to throwing tantrums. Overall, the people were awful & weird.
RawSuger
you forgot brave, generous and clever. the irrationality...the men have their share of that and i definitely recognize patterna in the women
nihilistporcupine
Please hang in there- books 5-8 are a train wreck (could of good parts) but the end....ohh my.
SirGellahad
Are you KIDDING?? That's like asking someone to eat 4 terrible courses over the next 5 hours, but stick it out because dessert is good!
SirGellahad
I have TRIED WoT (really I have), but Cheese & Rice, people, nothing happens!! Begging someone to "stick it out" is not a good selling point
akom
Spoilerish info follows:
akom
I felt like the ending was somewhat unsatisfying. Not the overall story arc, that was fine. But Jordan loved every one of his characters(..)
akom
(..)and wrote each one as if they were the focus. There was no way to end each of their stories in a satisfactory way without the (..)
SaudadeOfSunday
Because the writer doesn't know how to write women. Same reasons all the relationships are just "and then they were dating/married/fucked"
ParsivaI
EXACTLY! I am so fed up of the Elaine chapters... I'm on the book 10 and I think I might have t skip 11 and get try the final Sanderson ones
mylastusernamewasmylastname
Sanderson saved the series in my opinion. His pacing is so well done.
RatsLiveOnNoEvilStar
Nothing happens in 10. You can just read the last couple of chapters and be good.
Whataimgur
Book 10 is the only one in the series I would consider as actually bad. Some great shit happens in 11 and much of the pacing is fixed.
LanceD85
11 on are fantastic. The pacing really picks up and you start seeing more action. Gotta get through Crossroads first, though. That’s a slog.
chromed
You really shouldn't skip an entire book... I guess you could get away with it if you read the chapter by chapter synopses on 1/
chromed
Library.tarvalon.net but that's barely shorter tbh
ParsivaI
I was going to skip this one and read the all the chapter synopsis, but couldn't bring myself to do it. Regret it now, but there are little
dragon3leg
It’s because they’ve gained Aes Sedai knowledge he says sarcastically, you’ll notice the characters get darker after the constant stress too
SpacemanSpiff1000
What about when Matt breaks them out of that locked room the black ajah put them in (I think book 2 or 3?) Never said thank you or (1)
SpacemanSpiff1000
Showed any kindness at all just yelled at him for coming there and asked him why he was there
SaudadeOfSunday
Spoilers. Ironically that gets addressed in the book you are on. I just finished it and moved to book 8 this week. But still a good point.
SquirtleSquad420
A constant theme is Matt never getting the respect he deserves, but he commands it by the end of the series.