TheBloodyLady
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Dehumanizing groups of people is the first step in a genocide. Be alert for the kinds of language used to other people.
Dec 10, 2023 7:02 AM
TheBloodyLady
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Dehumanizing groups of people is the first step in a genocide. Be alert for the kinds of language used to other people.
cuddleskunk
Straight guy outed as a pedophile: "What a sick bastard!". Queer guy outed as a pedophile: "Those people are disgusting and need to be hunted down!"
JustAnotherVictimOfAmbientMorality
That's my secret. I'm angry all the time.
thepicklebucket
This is also true for big, tall, sketchy-looking people.
backroadstoboston1
Cancel culture jumps on your unfortunate moment as an opportunity to define your behavior as purely ill-intended and deem you forever unworthy. Those who hunt for any fault like it’s unearthed offensive buried treasure, why?
heydevildevil
as a divorced dad i feel this so hard. i’m just expected to accept a shit sandwich, take a hearty bite and smile. show any sign of negative emotions about a generally negative situation, stand up for your parental rights that are being taken from you solely by merit of the bits between your legs and you’re a fucking monster trying to separate a child from their mother
Endocrom
HOOMANGUY
When people get cut off in traffic that person is called an asshole. But if the driver is foreign the entire culture is to blame.
TheLastBootyBender
No that's just a racist asshole
MissSiesta
I'm sure I've read this applies to black women as well: they're condemned as unhinged if they become upset, but they absolutely have a right to be upset, especially in America.
valinnut
When I was 17 I got angry at a female teacher and I noticed she got afraid of me. This was a gender defining moment, noticing how men and therefore I will always be perceived as being capable of violence and therefore have to be careful in my very natural expression of anger.
guyintoga
https://youtu.be/SC1MSxv-DUU?feature=shared reminded me of this.
meanMemes
being othered; ostracized, harassed, ridiculed, alienated et m daily by dozens of different peoples to the point of absurdity but I take it in strides. May even be considered provocations (i.e. provocative statements) which have slowly escalated to them pushing the bounds of civility. I do my best to NOT REACT. As I realized that I'm clearly and presently being "baited". Essentially being bullied to the point where playing a violin makes seance. However, worse I'll do is keep a diary...
meanMemes
... the best revenge is served via cold fusion? [wordplay]; the bestist sweet-revenge is understanding and empathy. And remaining polite and civilized. I try to channel any emotional responses unto creative nonfiction and have self-published a few things via #KDP Worst I'll to is write a #shortstory A boring alternative where everyone gets along and next to null interesting ever occurs because those haters thrive on drama
GborCseh
A friend of my was talking to a coworker of mine: "you know I don't think I've ever seen Gabby angry before.." I told her the last time I showed outerly how angry I was I was 'hospitalized'. I've been over 6 foot since grade 5 and over 200 pounds just slightly before then. at that size every fight is your fault, even if your jumped. It's why season one of Beastar was so emotional for me.
ThatWhichRemains
Reminds me of stan edgar from the boys saying "I can't lash out, like some raging entitled maniac. That''s a white mans luxury"
MorrowDisca
Terry Crews made a similar point recently about being sa'd. Paraphrasing ofc, but he said something like "I'm a large black male, it's dangerous for us to show anger."
catrov
That is true to a lesser extent for large white males as well. Not the same thing, but the prejudice/fear of large people, males in particular is a general thing nonetheless.
TheFastpaws
My entire childhood. As bullies literally dumped piss on my head. Yet I was not allowed to get angry about it or be considered an out of control monster. While the bullies were just ignored. The American school system is trash at every level.
neffstradamus
Your parents too.
StevenFarmer
It's the same across the board, my guy, little comfort as it is. I'm in the UK, had a girl literally announce at the top of her lungs 'Hey, I just had my period and I'm ready to fuck!' in class. Who did the teacher pay attention to? Me and my friend talking quietly in one corner.
Drakknfyre
"Be the better man, just ignore them. They'll eventually go away." No, they won't. Your inaction only encouraged them endlessly because they know you won't fight back and there's zero repercussions for bullying you. "Be the better man", bullshit. Be the person who shows them actions have consequences.
modus0
Bullies tend to not like it when their prey fights back - it's just about the only way to get them to stop.
crusadurus
Yep, FAR too often it just protects the bully. Silence only helps the oppressor yet the staff is far too silent and too often has their hands tied.
maeta
If you think this is how Terry Pratchett writes you cheeky have not read enough of his work.
VaultGirl69
This is the mentality of me training my pits. The positive reinforcement training must be constant. What if they jump on the wrong person, just wanting pets and kisses and hugs? As soon as we step outside the rules change. But we try to get all the snuggles out of our system before we do outside. The walks happen after they're worn out and dogs are rarely ever fully worn out. They're smart. Always stopping before crossing the street, even if there's no cars. My sweet puppos.
InboxMeYourHDGIFs
I'd only ever seen my old dog get aggressive with someone once in her 11 years. She was ~2 at the time, and always tried to run past our legs out the door when we opened it. She got past us one time, and ran across the street to somebody just walking down the sidewalk. She loved meeting new people, but this guy only saw an unknown dog running straight at him, and kicked her when she got close. Obviously she didn't like that, but I got over there a second later and pulled her back in the house.
VioletCatastrophe
As a queer person, knowing any rightful and justified anger I show can potentially be collated and used as ammo to convince others that queer people are unstable and crazy is always on my mind. It doesn't matter that I know the tactic is to wear down everyone and latch onto the one person having a bad enough day to let it slip... because in the end the only thing I can do is carefully manage my own outwards emotions to an absurd degree. Its exhausting and that's the point.
GravyEducation
Also reminds me of literally my favorite scene in Endgame. Where Hulk shows restraint. https://youtu.be/Pzp_iSUExes?si=118FSkaLE_Ph8GkS
mullinsmark007
Why is this tagged as funny?
soyouwanttobeapirate
I guess it's tagged "funny" and "memes" cause people block "deep for 13 year olds"
Isalenna
It's important to realize how many people this metaphor can apply to - I recall the subject matter being brought up in a TV show some few years back regarding women, and how when a man has an outburst of anger, it's often normalized, but with women you're lessened for it and it's treated as proof that you don't belong in the space you're in. As mentioned elsewhere here, it also applies to black people and other minorities.
doctorId
I remember being baffled that anyone thought Trump was a lesser evil than Hillary because while she had her own issues as a politician, Trump has always been one of the worst human beings in the public sphere hands down, it's so obvious. A female friend of mine pointed out that for a lot of people, a woman has to be perfect to even be considered baseline competent or moral. Any flaws are seen as proof of her unsuitability. I was like "Oh, right."
ADDGirl
Women are emotionally unstable and will bomb another country "at that time of the month". That was commonly said when I was younger. It's more subtly said now.
WrathOfJigglypuff
Werewolves tend to eat people when they are angry? Maybe not the best metaphor?
Munchman347
Turning a marginalized group into 'The Enemy of Our Way of Life' is a go to distraction used by all manipulators and grifters...
CrimeBrulee
I hate how when you have an outburst when you're angry people at like "OMG THATS WHO YOU REALLY ARE" like you're a bad person who pulls off a good person disguise 99% of the time. Not fair.
fenick
Others judge us by our actions. We judge ourselves by our intentions. When your good intentions result in bad outcomes….
KetchupAndCheese
I left a job partly because of something like this. Most of the time, people complained that I was too quiet and they couldn't hear me. My volume gauge trends quiet. There was one time I had clogged sinuses, and I spoke too loudly because I couldn't hear. I was also under some stress because my boss was keeping lists of every mistake I made, so my words might not have come out right. I was told I was aggressive and warned I was in danger of being fired. So, I left.
TheBloodyLady
Anyone who says that isn't interested in playing fair anyway, they just want to kick you down.
Derfboy
Yep. I usually end up being the one kicked down but I never know it until I realize I'm in a hole and can't find my way out.
DisgruntledFerret
I mean, it depends on the outburst. Like if you scream that Hitler was right and then drop n-bombs, I feel fine saying that's the real you.
meanMemes
took me a while to learn that there are sadists that get-off by pissing others off to the point of getting a negative reaction /wiki/Attention_seeking
Youhavinagiraffe
It's even more annoying when people do this with "freudian slips". Sometimes people don't words good and it's very stupid to believe that misspeaking or using the wrong word/phrase is somehow MORE accurate to a person's true beliefs compared to the expression of a well thought out opinion or how they consistently act in life
Ilovebri1
That's not true. I can feel it in your words. We all act shifty sometimes.
RVAALLDAY
My outburst at Joanne fabrics does not define me
TheMightyMollusk
I'm a fairly large guy. When I get mad, people act like I've always been some kind of dangerous threat and I've just been hiding it. No, the real me is the quiet one who just wants to be left alone, the angry version is what happens when you keep provoking me for no reason. I hate angry me too.
ruint
Same. Fighting my emotional lability = exhausting hypervigilance & self-reproach, forecasting to avoid bad interactions/prepare safe responses & plotting positive/subservient interactions to score points Vs possible past/future outbursts. 'Not my fault' not meaning 'not my responsibility' is the real burden of poor MH & only one life-ruining facet of my ADHD. I can only relax alone & shun company. I wish people would see the work I put into peace, and remember more than my mistakes, or my anger.
ruint
^liability
EverNotRelevant
The idea that your "true" personality is only revealed in extremis is so frustrating to me. Especially when prove are so eager to excuse bad behavior when someone is under stress: "I'm so sorry, this isn't who he really is!"
HandoB4Javert
EverNotRelevant
*people
Corrodias
Oh yes, how does the excuse usually go, in court? "Those actions do not represent who I am"?
Crunkmaster5000XXXL
Great point.
PosthumousExile
I hate people who assume no one is actually kind. Says alot more about them than their target imo
nichfra
Maybe it's just me but comparing marginalized groups to what's usually a literal mindless killing machines isn't the great look people think it is.
nevinera
It worked pretty well when Pratchett did it, but he built up the context over a whole novel. In isolation, it still _works_, but only if you already understand and agree. It's certainly not a great argument to give to (eg) an actual racist asshole, since they actually do think the standard werewolf is a good metaphor for the object of their bigotry.
ArdentSlacker
... what's the sample size of werewolves you're basing this "usual" on? Hell, Butcher's Dresden series had, what... 5 kinds? Six? None of which are real, and only 2 were crazy. (Hell, one didn't actually *change*, they were just kinda berserkers.) Or maybe the Twilight kind?
nichfra
I base it on texts like "the lycanthrope reader: werewolves in Western culture", as well as common myths regarding werewolves like the loup garou in Gévaudan.
Raoul97533
Does you getting angry come with a history of you screaming words and closing doors harder than usuall, or does you getting angry normally end with one or more people dead or injured? Thats a big factor here...
Raoul97533
No idea why this is getting downvotes, not everyone "gets angry" the same way. I know people who get angry, they scream around, they smash doors, they dont talk to you for a while, I know people who get angry, they break stuff, and I know people who get angry they assault people. I am not afraid when the first one gets angry, but I am scared as fuck when the last one gets angry.
tooomanystevesgotbanned
You point isn't wrong, just irrelevant to the point OP was making.
TinyOctopus
Tiny octopus will help. Because this isn't about someone getting angry. It's about a group of people, like LGBTQ+ people. Or People of Color. And when they collectively get angry at society's bullshit and protest and cause a ruckus, then society points the finger and says, "OMG SEE WE WERE RIGHT." It's not about your cousin Jim, or your friend who yells. It's a metaphor for othering groups of people that conservative society wishes would just go away.
TheBloodyLady
Thank you tiny octopus, I did not have the energy to engage with someone so blatantly missing the point today.
SomeDetroitGuy
Well put! Thank you for putting to words what I couldn't.
meskarune
Also true for angry women vs angry men. A woman showing anger has a permanent personality flaw. Men can be angry and its understood this is a justified and temporary emotion.
PballQhead
This was where my mind went straightaway. The Barbie movie, not Discworld.
matthias451
As a 6' 2" heavily built man that is not true at all. I have women friends who can get upset, yell at their husband's, slap or punch them even and it's like, well that's just X, she gets mad easy. Meanwhile I have had to hold my tongue my whole adult life cause if I get mad and yell I'm "scary and dangerous." And one of my closest friends is a strongman competitor who literally had police called on him because he yelled at a couple who where mocking our friend, because they were suddenly"afraid"
TharrickLawson
I am a larger man. I have to be incredibly careful with the volume and tone of my voice because at least one of my female co-workers have made complaints that I scare them - difficult to do, as I'm also deaf. I have to be so careful in how I stand, how I move, the expression on my face, at all moments, because all it takes is one misinterpretation and I'm back in front of my boss facing disciplinary action because of how I'm shaped.
LoquaciousDude
Angrey men are sometimes seen as aggressive and dangerous tho, esp larger men
maeta
Absolutely. It's so fucked.
2Ghoul4School
As a guy, my experience is wildly different. I can barely raise my voice in public without people looking at me like I'm a domestic abuser. Meanwhile, the wife can physically hit me in the middle of a crowded street without anyone so much as turning their heads.
matthias451
Same here. I'm both semi tall and pretty broad across the arms and shoulders and these days rock a stout beet gut. I've had to consider my body language, the volume of my voice, and just what other people think/see when in public since I was in my early 20s because people complained I was too loud or intimidated them while talking or arguing about stuff at events and learned to give people space especially ladies cause it's real easy to say the big bearded guy did something bad and be believed
2Ghoul4School
Aye, likewise. I'm big, have resting bitch face, and, on account of ADHD, am naturally energetic in my expression. I also quickly realized in my early 20s that I must put active effort into subduing myself, keeping my voice low in volume and a little higher in pitch, my eyebrows raised and my eyes a little more open, smiling politely - but not too politely - when making eye-contact, and entirely restrain all body language, because I realized that when I don't, incidents happen. I wouldn't be -
2Ghoul4School
aware of it until much later, but people would build these stories I'd sometimes happen upon through mutual acquaintances where I could scarcely recognize myself. Like, this one time, I was picking up my much younger little sister from her kindergarten, and I was late. When I got there, it was entirely empty, and I got nervous, so I called out for her. A woman found me and explained the kindergarten was closed, and that's when I remembered my sister had just switched kindergartens. A few weeks -
2Ghoul4School
later, I heard through my mom that some woman had told my old nanny that a drunk mad man had been stumbling around the kindergarten, yelling and screaming for a child, probably there to kidnap a kid he'd lost custody of. My old nanny was mortified, until the woman said the name the man had been calling out - my sister's name - and realized it was me the woman was talking about. Thankfully, she defended me and set the story straight, but it scared me. That woman looked at me and saw a monster. -
MrSwissroll
Terry Pratchett?
ArdentSlacker
I think this is from the game "Coffee Talk". There are werewolves and allegories there.
artrald
The sentiment could have been, but I am 100% sure PTerry didn't write that unless he did it before I was born.
Eridianne
Naw that's not really his writing style
upsidedownhead
Maybe not exactly his style, but close, and with similar thoughtfulness and philosophical depth.
Eridianne
Oh like, humanizing a monster? Absolutely. But all Pratchett's writing is super recognizable, this just isn't how he put words together
purgruv
Terry Crews?
Eridianne
I mean none of the characters are referring to themselves in the third person so probably not
stoutde
I think we're trying to figure out who the Terry in the title is.
Batmannequin
It's Terry The Fat Shark. His gift this week is wisdom.
Eridianne
Maybe it's the guy from Fatal Fury?
GravyEducation
I'm not angry. I'm just trying to make a point
robingal1
The lighting was really nicely done.
dontmagpie
Matt Smith was soooooo good as the Doctor
GravyEducation
GravyEducation
thedarkdesert
Any idea which episode this was?
tooomanystevesgotbanned
S6.E7
- A Good Man Goes to War (2011)
GravyEducation
Demons run
tooomanystevesgotbanned
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1777781/?ref_=ttfc_ql
Midioto
It was the one with the doctor guy in it (whose name I can’t remember atm).
thedarkdesert
Thanks for clarifying. :P
WitchyVixen
unbreathless
Oh come on people! That was a good joke.
magitek
Who the fuck is downvoting that comment? Imgur confuses me sometimes
Midioto
ROFL! Well at least one person got it. ^_^