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Mar 19, 2025 9:55 PM

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Greenpeace ordered to pay hundreds of millions in damages to oil firm

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Yup, awful, horrible America, holding a trial where the results didn't turn out favorably to a criminal organization. Remember when France snuck a bunch of military agents and limpet mines into New Zealand, and used them to bomb and sink Greenpeace's flagship, killing a photographer and blasting a number of her crew off the deck and into the water? Yup, only America ever does bad things to an organization like Greenpeace.

1 year ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 5

This is fucking bullshit!

1 year ago | Likes 97 Dislikes 1

I completely assumed it was an American decision, and I was completely right.

1 year ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

Well if Trump and co don’t need to follow legal rulings I don’t see why Greenpeace should. Two can play at being disrupters of the system.

1 year ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Republicans don't pay, so why should anyone else?

1 year ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

This is the darkest timeline

1 year ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Sounds to me like SLAPP (Strategic Lawsuit Against Public Participation). See also https://apnews.com/article/eu-greenpeace-court-case-enengy-company-bdab76fe6014e4d680b6af6d273e5420

1 year ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

Greenpeace is not an environmental protection organization, it is an anti-nuclear organization that uses the environment for publicity.

1 year ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

What a load of shit

1 year ago | Likes 30 Dislikes 1

Well it's an american court. We can now ignore them, they hold no power anymore.

1 year ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 0

And Greenpeace responded with a huge middle finger, right?

1 year ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

Green peace I guess have tried doing it the “legal” way and it didn’t work. I guess a lot of oil execs are about to find out what happens next

1 year ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

And hopefully their fucking lawyers and the judge too

1 year ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Gotta love how it is barely a footnote that they do not even have the permit to Start the pipeline that is currently running, for years.

And all of that ignores the point that, oh right, international law says they can't give that permit without the consent of the indigenous groups that were protesting, because they have sovereignty on their land.

1 year ago | Likes 40 Dislikes 0

They had the permit when the pipeline was built and became operational, but it was temporarily suspended by a judge over three years later. The judge was overturned by the appeals court, who let the pipeline continue to run. The same court en banc later upheld just part of the judge's ruling. The full appeals court said the judge's conclusion that a more thorough environmental impact report probably should have been done was sound, but declined to uphold his order that the pipeline, already

1 year ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

in operation for years, had to be shut down pending the report's completion. (And it was the Army Corps of Engineers who was found delinquent in not doing the impact report, not the pipeline's operators.) The SCOTUS refused to hear an appeal of it, since the pipeline was allowed to continue operating pending the report's completion. The matter was moot, unless the completed report actually did recommend shutting the pipeline down.

And the pipeline runs underground beneath tribal lands, not

1 year ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

over the surface. As you say, they have sovereignty ON their LAND. But that sovereignty does not extend to an arbitrary depth, only to a depth where artifacts are found. Nor does it extend over a lake. The issue is not one of sovereignty but reliance. The claim is that a leak could contaminate the PUBLIC lake, which the tribes do not own (the Federal government does); but that the tribes have standing because they rely on the lake for drinking water.

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They did not have the permit, at any point in its operation, they had a permit at one point during its Construction, but was invalidated by the courts because it was lacking multiple things including environmental impact studies. The property rights include mineral rights and all depths for that sovereignty you have no clue what you are talking about on that topic at all.

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It was invalidated three years (well, 2 years and 11 months) after the pipeline was completed and already in operation.

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