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The joke caught my eye and since my motherland doesn’t celebrate any Independence Day either, it led my curiosity into some digging;
Come on Britain. Seriously..? Lol
Found a visual map of how vast the British invasion have reached during the years and I guess, technically there should be at least 22 countries celebrating Independence Day ...unless others have tried of course.
My further investigation around what country has never been invaded kind of led me into a slippery slope; unless specified “not successfully invaded”, I actually found none. We all have been invaded at least once... it’s just that 22 of us have not been invaded by Britain. You little rascal.
ImRelevantToo
Those 22 countries should have a not conquered by the UK day
mity0k23
I like how Britain is one of the 22 countries never invaded by Britain.
Notazombietip
Considering how small Britain is. You've got to admit it's pretty impressive
someguythatmakesmodelkits
Thanks for telling us which ones we have left to do.
MarioBoon
Belgium has never been invaded by the British... they DID uphold and defend our independence, tho'
davesrandomstuff
I mean everyone was doing it back then, France, Spain etc. The UK didn't want to be left out, like when someone has a pie, you want a slice.
ionicseraph
Argentina shouldn't count because the British only invaded what was already British. Falklands.
RisingPhoenix92
Agreed
Slarti54
We've been invaded enough, thank you.
notFromHereButStaying
So just annex it is, then?
DavPaz
Polish?
Slarti54
I meant the Romans etc. The Polish have good beer and hot women, they're welcome.
Rogahar
Then we got bored of owning everything, gave it all back (minus the parts we liked), and invented Cricket so everyone could beat us at it >
Berethian
Australia would beg to differ as to cricket :P
Rogahar
> and forget about how we used to own them.
allahkirby
I thought you guys called that "football".
pavelo
Wait, when were Central European states invaded by Britain..?
UnluckyLunkhead
When was Switzerland invaded? I mean they were on the same side as Napoleon but it's a long way from Waterloo.
LizardEnterprises
During WWII both sides routinely violated Swiss airspace, and the British and Americans bombed several Swiss towns
LizardEnterprises
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombings_of_Switzerland_in_World_War_II
UnluckyLunkhead
That's a thin definition of 'invasion',
LizardEnterprises
I mean, if British planes flew over my house and dropped a bomb on it, I'd consider that an invasion.
prodmerc
And for all that, the UK has a sad selection of public holidays, most of which are bank holidays. The British peasants never had it easy
SirDuddleZboob
There's a difference between invaded and conquered tho
BlackDeathZombieSwede
It’s correct, I tried find a list of countries never conquered but too many contradictions; between 10-16 seems to be the agreement
SirDuddleZboob
Plus depends what you call "england" like do the saxons counts? If not england never really conquered anything in europe for exemple
BlackDeathZombieSwede
Britain/British, bud. Never used “England”.
llamasaylol
The list is copy and pasted all across the Internet, no one knows the original source, and it's utterly wrong. (1/2)
llamasaylol
I have tried finding a proper list, but none were convincing. (2/2)
thanksalottodd
The term “Invaded” was used very loosely in that study
RepetitiveStrainInjury
Like OP's mom
CascadianTwilight
The Allies in WWI invaded Russia to try and stop the Bolsheviks. The Russians remember this. We don't.
mangsImaginationDog
Yes it is called Intervention and played major role in Civil war in Russia. British had invaded together with french troops in European part
mangsImaginationDog
And japs and US in Far east. Also Britain invaded us during Crimean war.
allahkirby
The US was with the Brits at Archangel and Lake Onega.
discostoou
Fun fact: up until recently, the sun technically didn't set on British soil lol
jaffa5
I'm pretty sure that it still doesn't as all british millatry bases are classifed as being british soil. same with our over seas embassies.
BronzeLeaguePro
As a Norwegian: The list does not specify that the invasion succeeded, merely that they had a go.
HeinekenBottle
It’s very flexible with the definition of invasion
usernamenamesolongifyoutagmeinyourcommentyouwonthavemuchspace
Unless there was another occasion, wasn't the only time the Brits "invaded" Norway, a failed liberation attempt in early WW2?
BronzeLeaguePro
No, that was a planned invasion, but the Germans were more efficient. So after a quick rename... But seriously though, the RN has had a go
BronzeLeaguePro
several times. Never really ended well for them. There was that time a bunch of locals threw cannons onto rowing boats and licked a Frigate.
BronzeLeaguePro
Unless an invasion means boots on the ground and there for a long time. There was IIRC, one time during the civil war era which also failed.
MakePasteShadowfax
ErinInStereo
Note how the majority of the invaded countries have coastlines. Royal Navy really... "got around".
stulfer
Slut
ReposterCallerOuterMan
ship of the line OP. and that +1 movement speed....F
UmmRonYourOn
UmmRonYourOn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtbKSXoueks
RedIronCrown
The majority of countries have coastlines, it would be weirder if the list of invaded countries didn't reflect this.
Sdogofdoom
I think it is more that the UNinvaded countries tend NOT to have coastlines. Implies they didn't push past the coast.
saigondevil
Those sluts!
Gatzarlok
When you're an island country surrounded by water, I'd hope your navy was powerful.
RedIronCrown
That's not accurate, most island nations have weak navies and most of the strongest navies are not from island countries.
BronzeLeaguePro
Most nations have coastlines, or their territory consists of worthless sand and angry people with weapons...
Adualion
and tons of black water underneath the sand !!!
ReposterCallerOuterMan
wasn't oil only recently used?
madpathmoth
The sun never sets on the british empire!
UWantSumFuk
+2 movement to all Navy units. +1 spy.
Counterfit
It did in 1997.
RedIronCrown
It did not. https://what-if.xkcd.com/48/
RoarL
That was the Spanish empire .-.
PowwerOrb13
Spain never had any Asian colonies to keep the sun up.
RoarL
I know it's been over a year, but, seriously? Philippines?
nateglen350
Philippines are in Asia
PowwerOrb13
Barely and the sun can easily set in the Phillipines before rising in Spain. England has the true empire on which the sun neve sets
Kehmon
https://what-if.xkcd.com/48/
threelittledwarfs
Science, bitch!
immoral0
That was a fun read, and I'm going to blame you in three days when I come back from rereading xkcd.
invaderkendall
They have something. "Remember, remember, the fifth of November. The gunpowder treason and plot..."
peridotstar
Is that to the tune of that song by Earth, Wind and Fire?
ijustimguredtosay
I see no reason that gunpowder treason, should ever be forgot...
TheGingerZombie
Yeah that's not an independence day though, we just like to celebrate the time someone nearly blew up parliament.
ChloeRed
often quoted as the only person to try to enter parliament with honest intentions...
UnluckyLunkhead
A bunch of religious terrorists, no less.
maratet
That map is utter bullshit. I'm guessing it labels all military presence in a country for any reason or context as "invasions" because (1/?)
TheManInTheWall
It just means invasions, not neccesarily successful ones
jaffa5
By definition an Invasion is an army or country that uses force to enter and take control of another country. sucessful or not it counts.
Berethian
Australia, for example, wasn't a military incursion. Settling != Invasion.
wolf387465
Muszkatela
Author meant it as that British military was present at the country at some point, same as Poland- been kicked by everybody but not by Brits
Berethian
Then the author needs a dictionary as to the definition of 'invasion'.
maratet
that's the only way it makes even the minimal amount of sense, but the reason why that's pants-on-head stupid is because Portugal is (2/?)
maratet
labelled as "invaded". Do yourself a favor and read about the Anglo-Portuguese Alliance for even 1 minute in Wikipedia and you'll find (3/?)
maratet
the following: 1) possibly the oldest alliance in the world, 2) still active, 3) participants have never been on opposing sides of an (4/?)
reaperkronos1
Britain invaded Portugal when it was occupied by France during Peninsular War, and while it was part of the Iberian Union 1/
reaperkronos1
And they were supporting the Prior of Crato against Philip II 2/2
maratet
armed conflict. So how come the map shows Portugal as being invaded by the British? For one simple reason: because it seeks to spread (5/?)
maratet
misinformation for whatever narrative its creator had in mind. In other words, it's anti-British propaganda of shit-tier quality and (6/7)
Whynot8888
allahkirby
https://imgur.com/ZA6CrRq
Counterfit
Old Ironsides is still afloat, you tea-stained motherfucker
prodmerc
And still failed to gain anything from it :D
evasiveinaction
Emerging as the dominant global power for the next 100 years not enough?
prodmerc
That would've been the case regardless
evasiveinaction
Securing North America allowed Britain to expand elsewhere. It ensured that the US emerged as a relatively friendly/benign power.
prodmerc
OK, I'll admit I don't know that war very well.
FreddoFroge
I'm Portuguese and I'm fairly sure we've never been invaded by England, they aided us multiple times through history
cynitelligence
You got invaded...... suck it up and accept it.
vavu17
Unless they're counting the invasion of English people to Algarve every summer
CephalopodLodge5
I always forget we're BFFs with Portugal haha ^.^
vavu17
Not always, we've had our fights over African territory (our Idea of connecting Angola to Mozambique to yours of unite Egypt to south Africa
Cpthornswoggler
We have the world's oldest alliance still in force dating back to late 1300s.
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Hybris51129
Well if you are a Tavern owner the sudden on rush of British soldiers drinking in said tavern would be a form of invasion.
bat3au12
We attacked you through the medium of football. Now you're hosting packs of semi literate booze hounds that riot and smash up your towns
badyams11
Portugal is a country? I thought it was a Man!
mdzmdz
The map counts us having fought there during the Peninsular War
honeybunchesofpwn
How fun. Your ancestors invaded my Indian ancestors and had a religious inquisition. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goa_Inquisition
honeybunchesofpwn
No worries though! It's all good now :)
vavu17
Well, our prime minister is from goan ascendancy, i think that make us even
captKidd907
Because they hated the spainiards.
prodmerc
Smart choice sailing for South America instead of North :D
ArmourersBench
Britain's oldest ally.
LizardEnterprises
You have, actually! England launched failed invasions of Lisbon and the Azores as part of the Anglo-Spanish War (1585–1604).
LizardEnterprises
At the time, you were in a Personal Union with Spain, and England was attempting to start a revolt.
FreddoFroge
while that is true, our people were really against the Filipine Reign, so they were kind of helping out Portugal...
sergiuuzz
Funny how portugals strongest moment was under spanish rule. 500 years later and your still under us
Exceptionelli
Nevertheless, an invasion
FreddoFroge
You are technically correct, the best kind of correct
Nakeela
I thought that about Denmark as well, but Britain kind of seized our entire navy in 1807, which was pretty much the entire army at the time
RisingPhoenix92
Im also questioning the Brazilian one for the same reasons and the Monroe Doctrine
PoorSucker
Bad map, Norway, Denmark, Finland never invaded by the British, the other way around is true.
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Misseskat
That is actually debatable...
BronzeLeaguePro
The English did had a go at Bergen, Norway in the 1500s. Their navy got beat back. Then there was the whole "starve 'em to death" thing...
OhNoPotato
True; I believe the correct wording would be "Countries the UK has declared war on".
thorkun
Well then the map is wrong cause technically they declared war on Sweden although nothing came of it.
PokemonNumber351
Finland is only there because of the battle of Bomarsund, aka. Åland war. Brits bombing a castle is invading I guess.
PoorSucker
Finland was not a sovereign country then ,so does not count.
HeinekenBottle
The study used a flexible definition of invasion
mormacil
Euh https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Copenhagen_(1801)
mormacil
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunboat_War
mormacil
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_V%C3%A5gen
xn1992
Came to post similar
DefinetlyNotARussianSpy
Ah yes, the time when Britain assaulted the neutral sovereign nation of Denmark because they feared they would join France, which caused
DefinetlyNotARussianSpy
Denmark to join France
Freightshaker
Britain violated Norwegian neutrality during WW2 and a full invasion was pre-empted by Germany by only a few hours.
Counterfit
Britain was pursuing a German warship that was carrying POWs in Norwegian waters. Neutrality isn't worth shit if you don't protect it.
Freightshaker
Britain was mining Norwegian coastal waters. I wasn't referencing the Altmark incident.
Freightshaker
The mining took place on the same day as their aborted invasion, since the German invasion beat them by a few hours.
TheFozzieBear
They invaded Finland in the Crimean war.
JAPONfan
The thing is that, no. It's not true. For example Britain never invaded Poland.
jaffa5
Poland may count as part of the 30 years war against germany and Bohemia before you eventually became poland.
TwoBitGreaser
Allied troops invaded Poland when it was part of the Third Reich. The death camps were liberated by British, US and Russian soldiers.
ForlornFennec
When you're attacking a place that's been invaded by someone else, that's normally called "liberating". With extra quotes if done by Soviets
JAPONfan
By that logic Poles went on a moon because Pole was in space.
TheAngryEngineer
Can Poland into space? Kurwa!
BlackDeathZombieSwede
I agree, you’re technically correct: it seems like the creator of the map includes Poland being invaded by Britain, as part of the WW
JAPONfan
Rather when Poland didn't existed but it territory was under Russian who had a war with Britain and counting it as invaded.
ForlornFennec
Or, more likely, back when we were allied with Napoleon and he had *his* scrap with Britain and the lot.
JAPONfan
Go back to school.
ForlornFennec
Are you denying that we were on Napoleon's side? I mean, we've even got the bugger in our national anthem.
FlyingGiantElk
“The list of countries invaded by the UK is incomplete, you can help by expanding it.”
Whynot8888
In the name of Margaret Thatcher HUZZAH!
Fairdinkums
*puts on helmet and picks up sword and shield*
WhenYouMissoutOntheCoolUsernames
*Musket *
RulesOfImgur
*holds tea over harbor* don't try it
goflyblind
*rule, britannia! intensifies*
NarcolepticOwl
BRITTANIA RULES THE WAVES
QotU
“Britain never, never, never shall be slaves.” Irony level: 100.
HexerGeraltVonRiva
You sir, deserve an upvote!
MalNebiros
I considered but decided the military didn't pay well enough to offset the hazards.
RexZE
thebillyofthewest
The Roman empire took over Britain you bitch
Eddi3v
https://imgur.com/lkBxIWu
thebillyofthewest
Bitch you wait when I'm king of the Americas I'll fucking destroy Britain fucking superiorists
WelshArtist
Wales was the first, Wales will probably be the last to seek independence.
flavivsaetivs
"The list of provinces conquered by the Romans is incomplete, you can help by expanding it."
RADICALFREEDOM
On it.
attofreak
YAS QUEEN, YAS
spookytwigg
Gotta catch 'em all!
KingOfAntarctica
British invaded the world in search of more spices. Then, having found plenty, promptly decided they don't like them. Boiled food for all...
spookytwigg
Mostly we just fry shit or put it in bread or pies. We're getting better with spices... It just took us a while.
bat3au12
Apart from Indian spices. We like them alot
227Recon
But they've been reduced to owning an island instead of an empire...
notFromHereButStaying
Well no I'm not British.
DorthLous
Heh, Canadian, we'll work something out... As long as they take the Queen, really :P
notFromHereButStaying
But she seems nice
DorthLous
I mean take the Queen as their Queen too. She's still ours and Australia, on top of being Britain's Queen
ClemFandangoAskingCanYouHearMe
Not yet.
Ibringchocolate
Ahahaha. Nice. Very nice.
notFromHereButStaying
Wait what
iHaveANewPuppy
It'll happen, we'll get you. We will have it all!!!!!!!
AntRam95
I’d like to see that war, britain verses the rest of the world, the USA could always use another state
bat3au12
Why fight somewhere we already invaded and beat? Boring.
AntRam95
Because britain is known to make stupid decisions
mdzmdz
We'd bide our time until the American government was shut down...
AntRam95
And you would still lose
TheValiantAdmiral
We'd just bribe the Vietnamese to do our fighting for us.
AntRam95
They’ll probably remember what britain did to the Middle East
orbitlives
Military isn't...
mdzmdz
We'd tactically insert in caravans through the national parks
orbitlives
Damn. Found our Achilles heel.
Diplomatti
We almost unified the world. Now look at the mess its in lol
thebillyofthewest
Fuck you, you dumb British shit I'm taking your fucking country new Hitler style
RyBarr
Conquered*
thebillyofthewest
Now look at you shriveled up and cuckled a fucking puny island easy for the taking bitch
PlantainSuperNova
If by unified you mean conquering countries to plunder their goods and resources then sure.
Fairbas
https://youtu.be/iyIOl-s7JTU
DukePhelan
Then went and ruined the term 'Empire' into the bargain. Now its considered rude to just go a conquering. Thanks limeys!
BobbyBobbston
Imagine if I said that, being german and all
bakulaspectacula
Oof
TheRuckestRick
Yeah well, no one likes a copycat
purdhapley
lol
prodmerc
Well you almost unified Europe, but then had to invite Russia :D
JadawinUK
Brits usually say "at least the trains would be on time." They have no clue. a) think of the destination! b) German trains are not on time.
acme64
It's a ww2 thing
Melonfish
Compared to British trains they are.
jaffa5
thats not hard when they are always a replacement bus service
Cheomesh
The "Trains on time" thing stems from supply train schedule policy in WW2.No one was allowed to alter them or stop the trains.
JadawinUK
That's why I said "think of the destination".
BobbyBobbston
German trains dont know what "being on time" means. When a train is on time, everybody on the train and at the station breaks into applause.
JadawinUK
... until they realise that the driver forgot to halt at one station and this isn't the one he was supposed to stop :)
ChloeRed
But do you just cancel them if they are late, because it's cheaper then the fine for being late? That's the UK way...
BobbyBobbston
I honestly can't say I really know. Haven't had to take public transport in years, thank god
WTFJohnny
Arent you giving your country to muslims? i mean your capitol has already been taken
Doomgriever
I don't trust people who don't know the difference between capitol and capital.
PirateRubberDuck
Integration of other cultures in London is a thing that we should be proud of. Beats being racist.
SiIverSoul
Yeah sure, until you take people from cultures that treat women like tools. So you are saying those who have been thrown acid at 1/2
SiIverSoul
2/2 should just suffer because its so fucking great to have more different races?
PirateRubberDuck
We have done similar things in the past, we didn't get an empire by being nice people. I can't hold that stuff against a race.
PlantainSuperNova
The last major acid attack in Britain was committed by a white guy...
SiIverSoul
WOAH U TOTALLY JUST SHOWED ME THERE! ONE CASE! Amazing. What about the grooming gangs and all the rape? Which all of you twats downplay?
WTFJohnny
think its funny you wanna call out “racist”yet side with maybe the most conervative/oprressive religion in the world. Western values please
PirateRubberDuck
I'm my view you are right but I view all Abrahamic religions as one religion. They are just as good and bad as each other.
WTFJohnny
I’d disagree but ya I’m not a fan of religion to begin with.
WTFJohnny
if they are all onboard with western values. then yes. or would you like to go back to stoning women, FMG ,killing gays, killIng apostates
PirateRubberDuck
Those are things that Christian communities have been doing in recent history too.
AreYouSuggestingThatCoconutsMigrate
Stop reading the Daily Heil mate. It’s fucking poison.
WTFJohnny
Ya clearly you are just ignorant to the facts. I don’t read the daily mail.i also don’t virtue signal in the face of information .
SiIverSoul
And you open your fucking eyes. People lie and downplay crime statistics by foreigners because they dont wanna be seen as racists.
BazzyMuffin
Didn’t Britan get invaded by Saxons and Romans and others?
captKidd907
That was before Britain was.
jiankui
The British are descended from wave after wave of invaders from continental Europe. You could say invading is in their blood.
jaffa5
yup a lot also settled here so our DNA is full of those past invaders genes. it's no wonder we ended up so good at invading in the end.
dimensionlessQ
And the Dutch too, but they decided to call that one the glorious revolution...
HeinekenBottle
It was more of a civil war with the Dutch invited along
End1ng
...England was part of the Roman empire, or at least half. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadrian%27s_Wall
TheManInTheWall
You could argue that Britain only really got going after 1066 meaning only invasions post Normans count. You could also argue otherwise tho
Earlkay
We learnt from them.
removekarling
Weren't really britain at that point tho.
jesusedgarhoover
Read Caesar. It was Britain before the Romans came.
removekarling
I mean as an identity, not literally.
jesusedgarhoover
Yeah, the Britons were there thousands of years before the Celts.
removekarling
Mate, I mean the identity British, as it is today, not the previous iterations of it. I'm not sure if you're being deliberately dense or (1)
sirmixanaverageamount
Taught them everything they know!
Hucklepuck
Some angry guy at the pub was ranting about us being invaded by the normans..... I had to remind him that we are the normans.
X23LauraKinney
The British were fucked over pretty bad by quite a few different countries especially the Romans who destroyed the early religions
UnluckyLunkhead
Plus Isabella of France with Roger Mortimer, also Simon de Montefort, also King Louis (son of Phillip II of France)
alpacasaurusrex
Isabella was already there. She just came to fuck her demon of a husband who stole her children because he was a spoilt cunt. He got what he
alpacasaurusrex
deserved. As did his best friend/supposed lover.
UnluckyLunkhead
She came from exile in France, landed in Harwich (contested by 55 soldiers who didn't try too hard).
alpacasaurusrex
Yes, but it wasn’t an invasion so much as “I’m coming back because you’re a cunt and no one is gonna stop me because you’re a joke and
alpacasaurusrex
everyone hates you anyway so suck it.”
YourNeighborhoodLesbian
Hitler tried but fails greatly
TheArtistFormallyKnownAs
Yes we did! Everyone was Kung Fu fighting, we were just horrifically good at it. Sorry about that.
CascadianTwilight
The Normans invaded in 1066 and I think that was the last time
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CascadianTwilight
Thank you for the correction! I am often wrong.
mormacil
In rapid succession like a cascade? :P
amundost
Also, the vikings took all the pretty brits, so there was no point coming again
ChillaAquila
Took them all back to Sweden :(
snail131
WRONG they didn’t take me ? ♀️
Dedeurmetdebaard
notFromHereButStaying
I mean look at them now. Then look at Sweden. Man I dont want British teeth mixed with swedish blondes. Thanks Vikings!
Carvingmydragon
What's teeth?
notFromHereButStaying
Plural of tooth
peridotstar
Toofs (I had to lol)
RadishIsAMeat
Britain has the best dental health in the world, are you just believing an American stereotype from the colonial era?
notFromHereButStaying
Like you said. It's a stereotype. Just a joke me lad. I'm german an I constantly make fun of our non existent humor and obsession with shit.
notFromHereButStaying
Everyone gets their share of stereotypes and really noone should be offended by them.
iRespondBasedOnMyMood
Swedish are voted most sexy
TheGreatAtomsk
my porn collection tells me there are still some hot girls in the uk.
TheAnswerWasAlwaysMoreLube
Immigration.
TheArtistFormallyKnownAs
Ha.
infernalcombustionengine
The internet also says some of them are single and in my area so not a bad day all things considered.
14November
Those are the swedes or norwegians that stayed in Britain for sure
ThatWillBuffOut
The Spanish regular army invaded in 1719 and the Dutch in 1688. And the French raided in 1405 and other times. They tend to get forgotten.
CasinoV
Don't forget one American ship also raided Britain in 1779
ThatWillBuffOut
A brave man, given the odds.
WinstonSmith101
Well JPJ shelled Whitehaven which is still a shithole even now, so...
derekjohn
There was also a huge French invasion plan in about 1540, when the 'Mary Rose' sank.
ThatWillBuffOut
Yes, there were lots of French raids along the south coast. There's a church in Sussex that still has the burn marks from a raid.
removekarling
Which failed
derekjohn
It's the thought that counts.
bat3au12
1688 was more of a civil war.
psidetracked
Well we sort of invited them
davieHitBandit
The Romans got as far as Scotland. That was enough for them
kibbypie
Guess building a wall does work o.0
davieHitBandit
Maybe that's where Trump got the Idea from
kibbypie
I think he wants the legions too.
FisterMantastic
Built a wall to keep the Scots on their side too lol
davieHitBandit
You haven't been to the Highlands and Islands, every second person is English
FisterMantastic
Honestly would love to go. Otherwise, just having some fun :)
TheN8
To be fair to the Romans, not even the Scots want to live in Scotland. It might as well have a wall of ice running through it!
davieHitBandit
I don't know it's like summer here just now. It's 8 degrees C outside it could be July out there
TheN8
8°C - Jesus Christ, have you stocked up on sunscreen?
davieHitBandit
Aye sunscreen factor 50
acme64
Where they Britain by then?
jesusedgarhoover
It was Britain in Roman times. You're confusing that with England which was much later.
ZombieZooZombieZoo
" 'oo are the britons?"
SafarimanHubertLegrange
Were
adamzeebear
Britons?
acme64
this answers nothuing
budgerygarr
Not really. It's complicated. Basically the English are a mongrel breed of all of our invaders: Angle, Jute, Saxon, Viking, Roman, Norman 1/
budgerygarr
The Norman invasion was the one that gave the English the societal/ military framework to really start throwing our weight around. You 2/
budgerygarr
could argue that we were fully formed by the end of the Plantagenet era (Norman family tree) but we didn't actually unite until 1700. It 3/
budgerygarr
was a case of the native Britons trying to fend off the English but we eventually wore them down. Ireland managed to break free recently.
Kbantar
That's true of any modern ethnicity. People have been fighting and mixing since long before our species began.
budgerygarr
True. My understanding is that we don't have any recorded history pre-Romans so anyone around then is just considered native.
budgerygarr
To the next person to downvote this. Could you please tell me the recorded history pre-Romans. I'm obviously behind on recent archaeology