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Jar Jar Fan Theory
*Disclaimer - I am not the author of this, all credit goes to Reddit user Lampawarroo whose excellent research and ideas have provided one of the most thought-provoking fan theories for the Star Wars universe. Original here: https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/3qvj6w/theory_jar_jar_binks_was_a_trained_force_user/
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Here I will seek to establish that Jar Jar Binks, far from being simply the bumbling idiot he portrays himself as, is in fact a highly skilled force user in terms of martial ability and mind control.
Furthermore, I assert that he was not, as many people assume, just an unwitting political tool manipulated by Palpatine-- rather, he and Palpatine were likely in collaboration from the very beginning, and it's entirely possible that Palpatine was a subordinate underling to Binks throughout both trilogies.
And finally, given the above, I will conclude with an argument as to why I believe it is not only possible, but plausible that Jar Jar will make a profound impact on the upcoming movies, and what his role may be.
So first, let's establish Jar Jar as a skilled warrior. While this does not in itself necessitate a connection with the Physical Force, it's highly suggestive in the Star Wars universe-- very rarely do we see "normal" characters exhibiting extraordinary stuntwork or physical feats unless they are Jedi, Sith, or at least force sensitives.
So here's Jar Jar nonchalantly executing a standing 20 foot twisting somersault:
Now, taken out of context, if you were watching a Star Wars movie and saw a character casually execute this maneuver, you'd probably assume it was a Jedi. In the context of Jar Jar, though, we don't... because elsewhere he so thoroughly convinces us that he's nothing more than a harmless dunce with his inane dialogue and cowardly-lion act.
He also manages to convince us that he's a bumbling oaf in the midst of pitched battle... even though he's always incredibly, amazingly successful. Whether single-handedly taking down a battledroid tank, or unleashing a barrage of boombas on their front lines, or precisely targeting multiple enemies with a blaster tangled around his ankle (!!!), we simply roll our eyes and attribute it to dumb "luck."
This is one of the main reasons we as an audience hate Jar Jar so thoroughly; he breaks the fourth wall, he shatters our suspension of disbelief, because we know that no one is really that lucky. We dismiss it as a lame, cliched trope-- the silly pathetic oaf who always seems to inadvertently save the day.
I posit that, instead, this is a deliberate facade on the part of Jar Jar as a character, and on the part of the writers and animators. As we know, the Jedi themselves are inspired by Shaolin Monks, and there's a particular kung fu discipline that Jar Jar's physicality is purposefully modeled upon which allows him to appear goofy and uncoordinated even as he lays waste to his enemies; namely, Zui Quan, or "Drunken Fist wushu".
This discipline seeks to imitate the "sloshing," seemingly random foibles of a drunkard, but in reality the staggering and stumbling is the use of bodily momentum, deception, and unpredictability intended to lure and confuse opponents.
Let's take a look at Jar Jar displaying some drunken fist techniques.
Jar Jar kipping up
Zui Quan comparison
Jar Jar "sloshing"
Zui Quan comparison
Jar Jar sweeps the leg
Zui Quan comparison
Jar Jar "centering himself" in preparation for a Force Jump
Zui Quan comparison
...ok, that's all well and good, but even if Jar Jar is a secret Drunken Fist boxing master, that doesn't make him a force user, right? Well, it should at least make us suspicious of his character period. It establishes that his over-the-top, childish antics are a veneer masking a more complex character than we're led to believe. But even if you choose to ignore Jar Jar's seemingly magical prescience in battle, I believe that there is a particular scene in which we do see him clearly make use of the physical force...
In TPM, when Jar Jar and the Jedi ambush the droids and rescue the queen and her entourage, Jar Jar "accidentally" botches his leap from the balcony. A few frames later, he is seen dropping from the opposite side of the balcony, which would seem to be quite be impossible without a force assisted jump and/or force sprint of some kind. Let's take a look
(Note that as they sneak up, Jar Jar is just as effortlessly stealthy as his Jedi counterparts. Interesting.) Now as I said, we see Jar Jar catch hold of the balcony on the far right side, but then he drops to the ground on the far left. Easy to dismiss as a continuity or framing error, I suppose... except that one of the droids continues to fire on Jar Jar's initial position, even as we see him drop elsewhere!
Here it is again, watch carefully where the droids are shooting, and where Jar Jar actually falls
See the droid that comes charging up, right behind the one Qui-Gon chops down? What's he shooting at up there?? And see its head swing back towards Jar Jars new position after the shot? You can also see another droid behind it tracking Jar Jar with its head, and manage a shot on the new position. This means that the animators knew very well where Jar Jar was supposed to be- dangling from the balcony over Qui-Gon's left shoulder- and purposefully animate the droids tracking his inexplicably fast movement elsewhere.
I think what has happened here, even though we don't see it directly, is that Jar Jar has purposefully split the attention of the enemies by grabbing on to the balcony as he falls, and then (using the force) propelled himself with a pull-up/flip to land in an unexpected place.
In fact, this is a maneuver we've seen before
... from a jedi. Twice, if you want to count Obi-Wan doing it in the Duel of Fates to take Maul by surprise.
In addition to this kind of highly suspicious physical "luck," I also believe that we're given enough clues to justifiably suspect that Jar Jar is also a master of Jedi Mind Control.
Consider: We hate the way Jar Jar influences major plot points for the same reason we hate his physicality- it messes with our sense of realism. Two experienced Jedi on a serious mission would never actually bring someone that stupid along with them. No character that idiotic would ever really be made a general. They certainly wouldn't be made a senator. How could anyone like Jar Jar really convince the entire galaxy to abandon democracy? That's ridiculous.
These things are just the political version of his physical "luck." Inadvertent, seemingly comical bumbling that just so happens to result in astoundingly positive results. But what if it isn't inadvertant, and what if Jar Jar's meteoric rise and inexplicable influence isn't the result of dumb happenstance, but the result of extensive and careful use of force mind powers?
Jedi (and presumably Sith) exhibit telltale signs when using the Mind Trick to implant suggestions or influence behavior.
For one thing, they always gesticulate
And they not-so-subtly wave their hands at their targets
Now here's a look at some pivotal Jar Jar moments during his political career...
Jar Jar hand-waving his way towards a promotion to Bombad General
Jar Jar hand-waving his way towards a promotion to the Senate
Jar Jar using Force Persuasion as he hand-waves the entire Galactic Senate and ushers in the death of democracy
Actually, if you watch the prequels with the idea that Jar Jar might be a manipulative, dark character, you begin to notice just how insidious and subtle his manipulation is, and how effective, in almost every sequence he's involved in, and also just how hyper-aware of the overarching plot he really is.
Examples: Jar Jar tricking the Jedi into traveling through the planet core (so that they need him). Jar Jar carefully causing a scene so that they run into Anakin. Jar Jar constantly mocking Qui-Gon behind his back while Anakin is watching (so that Anakin learns disrespect for Jedi authority early on). Jar Jar telling an 8 year old child that the queen is "pretty hot," fanning the flames of the child's infatuation that is exploited later on. I could go on.
Now if you lend even the slightest credence to my above points, and acknowledge the possibility that Jar Jar might notbe an idiot, you're almost forced to conclude that Jar Jar Binks and Palpatine were co-conspirators. If Jar Jar is putting forth an elaborate act to deceive people, it means he's not a fool... and if he's not a fool, it means his actions in Episode II that facilitate Palpatine's plans are not those of an unwitting tool- they are those of a partner.
Remember- Palpatine and Jar Jar are from the same planet, which in the scale of the Star Wars universe is like growing up as next door neighbors. It's entirely possible that they knew each other for years prior to TPM-- perhaps they trained together, or one trained the other. And Naboo is a really strange planet, actually; remember those odd ancient statues with the third eye? Naboo is the kind of place an "outcast" Gungan might find a Sith holocron or two.
But that's just speculation. Let's stick to what we know -- what we know is that even after Palpatine is elected as Chancellor, years after Jar Jar has been "tricked" into helping elect him, Palpatine still hangs out with Jar Jar in Return of the Sith
Why? Wouldn't he be a constant source of public embarrassment? This is the same character who can't walk five yards without stepping in poodoo or squealing like a rabid donkey, right? What use does he have now? Why is he still at the right hand of the most powerful person in the galaxy? Could it be that in fact Jar Jar is the most powerful person in the galaxy?
Fine. Maybe. Hilarious conspiracy theory, but why would George Lucas bother to create this devious Gungan character with an elaborate conspiratorial past, but then never actually reveal his true nature?
Here's George Lucas (from a documentary) talking about Yoda:
"Yoda really comes from a tradition in mythological storytelling- fairy tales- of the hero finding a little creature on the side of the road that seems very insignificant and not very important, but who turns out to be the master wizard, or the master thing..."
As we all know, one of Lucas' big deals with the prequels was that they were intended to "rhyme" and mirror the original trilogy in terms of general narrative themes. So there should have been a seemingly innocent creature found on the side of the road that later reveals itself as a major player. We do have a creature that this seems to describe precisely... Jar Jar... but of course he never develops into a "master" anything.
Here's what I think happened: I think that Jar Jar was initially intended to be the prequel (and Dark Side) equivalent of Yoda. Just as Yoda has his "big reveal" when we learn that his tottering, geriatric goofball persona is just a mask, Jar Jar was intended to have a big reveal in Episode II or III where we learn that he's not really a naive dope, but rather a master puppeteer Sith in league with (or perhaps in charge of) Palpatine.
However, George Lucas chickened out. The fan reaction to Jar Jar was so vitriolic that this aspect of the trilogy was abandoned. Just too risky... if Jar Jar is truly that off-putting, it's potentially ruinous to the Star Wars legacy to imply that he's the ultimate bad guy of the entire saga. So pretend he was just a failed attempt at comic relief instead.
This is why Dooku seems like such a flat, shoehorned-in character with no backstory; he was hastily written in to cover the plot holes left when villain Jar Jar was redacted. Yoda was meant to duel with his literal darkside nemesis and mythological equivalent at the end of AotC: not boring old Count Dooku, but Sith Master Jar Jar. And Binks was meant to escape, not just that duel but to survive the entire trilogy... so that he could cast a shadow on the OT, too; you'd rewatch the originals knowing that the Emperor wasn't necessarily the big baddie after all... Jar Jar is still out there somewhere. It would have been sort of brilliant.
But I believe it is likely that the writers of the new trilogy will resurrect this idea. Most people seem to think that Disney wishes to distance or somehow disassociate itself from the prequels... but this doesn't actually make any economic or marketing sense. There is far more prequel-era based intellectual property to capitalize on than there is OT, if only because of the Clone Wars movie and series. Billions of dollars in iconic toys, images, characters, games, park rides, etc that an entire younger generation grew up on. Disney is not going to pretend that over half of the $4 billion in IP they bought simply isn't worth acknowledging.
And further, we have behind the scenes footage from The Force Awakens which clearly shows imagery being reused from the prequels.
No, it stands to reason that one of their primary goals will be to reinvigorate and ultimately try to redeem the prequels in the eyes of the fanbase. To elevate and improve them retroactively, as much as possible. So how do you do that?
Jar Jar Binks has undoubtedly become the face of everything that is "wrong" with the prequels- he was too silly, too unbelievable, seemingly pointless. If you are able to somehow change the nature of Jar Jar from embarrassing idiot to jaw-dropping villain, suddenly the entire prequel trilogy must be seen in a new light, because it becomes the setup for the most astounding reveal in film history:
Jar Jar Binks is Supreme Leader Snoke!
AJMK
It is worth pointing out Jar Jar's original character archtype was supposed to be like a Jamaican pirate sellsword mercenary type...
ArmedWithANapkin
Knowing Jar-Jar's style now, I imagine a red, limp lightsaber. A plasma dildo of destruction that everyone laughs at before he destroys them
Myfirstnamewaschosen
So, a light whip?
ArmedWithANapkin
Yeah. Dildo just had more impact
He4rtless
Commenting too late but this post makes him sound like Vash the Stampede.
Midniteoyl
Yes!
JoshyFreddy
This totally seems like a rant Skinny Pete would excitedly shout at Badger while high.
Dsharppe
Pfft man.. that was Voyager...
lacole725
Just because he did all those feats doesn't mean other Gungans can't do them as well. They really didn't get "too much" exposure. Idk.
Bauerhaus
Long read, I had heard these points made before but not as succinctly or with images. Thanks!
Barley426
I don't think there was anything succinct about this post, lol.
GolFoehammer
to appeal to children, for marketing purposes, rather than any serious contribution to the story.
azarza
Yea cause kids hate spaceships and lasets
RottenKitten
Kids loevs clumsy chars, tho
HydrochloricKitten
I.e., Lucas wants to sell toys not tell stories.
MyMiddleNameIsAllen
Queue South Park: "THEY'RE RAPING MEEEEE..." - "NOW SQUEAL LIKE A PIG!!!!! SQUEEIEIIIIIEEEEEEEEE"
zackofspades
This was fun to read but I will eat a VHS copy of the original movie if Jar Jar is secretly a Sith all along.
TheSandwichExpert
If it happens, you will have to deliver.
zackofspades
There will be images and testimonial.
TheSandwichExpert
It has been recorded.
zackofspades
May the Force be with it.
NormalNoahC
Nah he's still a twat
Peenerpuddin
This makes me think of the character "Tobi" in naruto..
notacyborg
Funny, that was my exact thought as well. All I could think is Tobi and Lucas had made the original trilogy based on Japanese influence.
dbids
I'm not the only one!!
dbids
I'm not the only one!!
VexyneUchiha
Because in the beginning, we ALL knew Tobi was a diaper wearing 'I just shit my pants oops, why am I even a ninja' character. And then..
aguynamedDeadpool
he blows himself up and survives
VexyneUchiha
There are still massive amounts of fanfiction that take 'Tobi' as a separate character from who he really is, and makes him into a dumbass.
ICallThemAsISeeThem
This traits are continually expressed through the Clone Wars Animated Series... dear gods.
HatsAreEssential
Remember the bounty-hunter tanks he destroyed? That was soooo intentional. He KNEW he could do that by acting clumsy.
TheSandwichExpert
Like the time he controls a fucking fish? Or when he pretends to be a jedi and everyone believes him?
axelfive
Or the time he successfully lead a squad of Clone troopers to rescue Anakin, Obi-Wan, and Dooku from pirates.
ICallThemAsISeeThem
Not to mention scaling a huge fucking tower in that episode.
TheSandwichExpert
I know right !
AWizardOfLoneliness
He calms the entire Gungan army's fear by waving his hand and whispering "Steady, steady."
AstuteObservationsOfAnADDKid
misa wo jar jar binks actually translates to I am sith lord binks
Varroth
no it doesnt
Rainbowpanties
Didn't you see his post it clearly says it does
AstuteObservationsOfAnADDKid
Diddyu
*waves hand*
ddrt
That's too far of a reach.
JoshyFreddy
I hated Anakin more than Jar Jar. Creepy whiny bitch.
LlornDeIcamole
In fact he's a toy... all the saga!!!
Sprixxen
WE GET IT, STOP CRYING YOU LITTLE BITCH. Goddamn ruin Darth Vader for ever.
StandardDeviant
I personally hate C3PO most of all of them. What an annoying prick.
Lukapaka
"HE'S HOLDING ME BACK! WAAAAAAAH!!!"
Yay295
This post seems to imply it was Jar Jar who made him that way. Jar Jar persuaded Anakin to listen to his feelings over reason.
JesusWalkedOnWaterToDrownInWine
http://imgur.com/2gA9Js7
mamadoom
I always found his slit pupils pretty creepy.
NotQuiteThatGuy
PSUTerra
What the what?!
Trabant601
https://youtu.be/qFu_dxwU-sk?t=31s
PSUTerra
Ah. Never saw that before.
MACWE
That is beautiful
BroccoliBrob
I love this gif so much, spat out coffee onto my phone
ReposterCallerOuterMan
http://www.tickld.com/x/jaw/this-guy-just-changed-the-way-we-see-star-wars-jar-jar#page-3 look what i found
GarrettStopMotion
If every I wanted to favorite comments it is now
jamesshore
Oh god, please no!
SuwinTzi
"Meesa gonna avenge you, Ani!"
Kaplar
"Meesa gonna finish what you started!"
CarlosOfNightvale
I want this to happen so badly. Like, more than anything. I would sacrifice a lamb to Disney for this to happen
EverythingISeeIsAJojosReference
Just because we as Imgur would like to see star wars nerds be extra butthurt about it?
CarlosOfNightvale
I'm a star wars nerd and I would love to see other more nerdy nerds start WW3 about it. But it would also be fucking amazing.
AynCantStopThinkingAboutYew
This is Imgur... everyone here is a star wars nerd.
sexysexyhungarians
When you realize Jar Jar is the Phantom Menace.
Chouilste
Litteral phantom because no one sees it
Nottherealslimshadyjusthisbodydouble
Yasss!!
Gogazo
Holy shit.
Sprixxen
This is a fun theory, but it gives too much credit to George. Jar Jar's "rhyme" is C-3P0 (even though they had C-3P0 too!)
Sprixxen
The prequels were a cash grab or some kind of ego boost. George didn't take any big risks and cashed in on the fandom.
JustFoxtrot
Dude... that suddenly makes the first movie so fucking clever and Lucas the biggest bastard for not going through with it...
Vectorman2
He almost single handedly killed a beloved film franchise, what character is more deadly than that?
DefinitelyNotMundo
BEST. RESPONSE. EVER.
JabbaThePizzaHutt
+1
EscargatoireMunch
I had nothing wrong with any of the sequels because, like many Star Wars fans, I was a child when they came out. *gasps all around*
StrangeSavant
What, because you're nostalgic that means you can't be critical? Feh!
taytotom83
I don't hate 'em eiter. Sue me
TheBatleyTownswomensGuild
"Star Wars fans hate anything childlike, so when you introduce Jar-Jar, some of them become very upset and opinionated" -George Lucas.
1AMTHEBATMAN
The only thing i dislike is some of the dialogue (well from my point of view the Jedi are evil!) and the romance scenes in episode 2.
Naztynayt
Evil in an extreme christian sort of way
ginandtonicisanacquiredtaste
Agreed. There was zero chemistry between the two actors. The romance was painful to watch.
Cheomesh
I was like 12, and I still found Jar Jar awkward to watch.
AKiwiCrusader
I really found this interesting, I hope they go through with some form of hint at the puppet master that is Binks
pronacc
Yes, fun read. But it's just an extremely far flung fan theory, no possible way it will ever be on film.
yeaboy67
It's not too far flung. If you go to the original reddit thread there are some well made points supporting that Lucas changed his mind
JustCallMeBean
It's pretty far-flung.
5omeWhiteGuy
Consider this. throughout the prequel trilogy, the jedi council admits to slowly losing their grasp on the force. after jarjar arrives there
cptkipard
Now triple dip.
inspectordipstickmcdoodlefairy
Now i picture jar jar pulling a usual suspects moment and i cant unsee it you piece of shit +1
ThePastmaster
Only objection I have is his jumping thing. All Gungans can do that. They're an aquatic race with very powerful muscles and no bones.
Cheomesh
No bones?
ThePastmaster
Nope. No bones. Not even boners.
JaccoW
"extremely flexible cartilaginous skeletons" - http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Gungan
IAmAManofConstantSorrow
Look up Dan telfer comedian, his bit on jar jar is hilarious!
Bellerophone
#4 is wrong though. Listen to George's directions here: https://youtu.be/j8sBsnYNucM?t=3203 this is before anyone hated on jarjar
Bellerophone
#6 actually :|
axelfive
You know, now I remember... When he tells Padme that the Gungans have a grand army, he does the hand wave then too!
WeaselBandit
As it turns out... they did not have the balls to roll with it.
AWizardOfLoneliness
a GRAND army
sexysexyhungarians
They did have a grand army, though.
axelfive
Well yeah. I'm not saying he lied. Doesn't mean he didn't manipulate her into going to the gungans.
Cheesecakecrush
And he manipulated her with the truth which made her trust him afterwards.
Roque99
I love it when people blow my mind
MetalSkeletal
"mind"
humbledham
Well, to be fair it' called your second head...
sexysexyhungarians
OP's using mind tricks to convince us the Jar Jar fan theory is true.
BeefyMcAwesomesauce
I love it when people blow my..... preconceptions.
Incantanto
See, thats the bit I'm iffy about: most people wave their hands when they talk. I do it, and I am no jedi.
ThisIsDERPITA
Maybe you are
arrbos
*stare* Most people wave their hands when they talk. ... He is no Jedi; move along, sir.
ThePastor0fMuppets
He is no Jedi; move along, sir.
IDidNotKillAnyone
That's because we evolved from jedis and we do it on reflex
fozzseid
It doesn't really mean anything though, as jedi only possess the knowledge to use mind games on weak minded. Sith can use them on everyone.
Anticlere
Exactly what an undercover Jedi would say.
LegendofJoe
The theory is suggesting that every time he is influencing someone he is also waving his hands, the rest of the time would be the cover up
almostsomething182
I mean, perfect cover. He just does it more naturally than when it's an obvious mind trick.
CaptainDameron
He's always waving his hands around because he's a bumbling idiot!!!
SuperWackyWavingInflatableArmFlailingTubeMan
You also don't live on Naboo so there's that.
PirateMatt
sounds exactly like a SITH SPY WOULD SAY!
FartedWhileMakingUpName
Get 'im, boys!
Incantanto
Sith spys can be girls you know.
OHSger
Upvoting for awareness
TimothyHay
Interesting points... but I think most people will still have trouble seeing Jar Jar as anything other than an idiot
ImguriansFillMySaltReservoir
Only the weak-minded ones fall for jedi-mind tricks.
luckycharms4life
I buy in. Especially since I find child Anakin far more annoying than Jar Jar.
ScoreQuest
Yippie!!
tijgerhuis
Well, I've never seen the movies, so I'll actually keep this in mind when I get around to watching them for the first time.
tootiredtocare
That depends. If the reveal is done with an absolutely devastating act I think it would make it a lot easier to see him in this new light.
doesthisbricksmelllikechlorophormtoyou
Kill leah. kill leah so hard.
IKnowItsAlreadyRegistered
Not sure if it matters,but in the Nature universe there was Tobi who was a complete fool but turned out to be a major antagonist in the show
watery
That's how powerful Jar Jar really is!
AKiwiCrusader
But just imagine, Jar Jar with slow, deep sentences that have menace dripping from every word. A complete reversal of his character
Textuality
It would have been way cooler, yeah. But I think the theory might be right, that Lucas chickened out due to how much people hated Jarjar.
DildoSchwagins
Dude......... Ho.... ly..... shit.
sexysexyhungarians
Yeah, it is super exciting as a concept. Although if you didn't look into it, it would probably come like a sudden simply made up change.
wintercoat
Not if they added flashbacks of the previous movies and used them like OP did. Mid-battle boasting intercut with relevant scenes would work.
MagnetBox
Oh, missa afraid da deflector shield ganna be quita operational whena yousa friends arrive.
Ninenine
Special Officer Doofy 0_0
BiteTheHandsThatThieve
Where's that image "Don't worry, meesa gonna avenge you Annie."
gr0gdor
This. Yes!
WarriorSoul
You-sa gonna be joinin' the dark side now, Annie.
RhymingEverything
It would break the realism of the movie to me. I want this to be true, but I just don't think it can be pulled off
TheNextGuy
I imagine him more beastial bearing his literal fangs in anger.
michealikruhara0110
Its a cool idea and I hope you're right about Lucas' original plan for JarJar, but I think Chekhov's gun has sat for too long. (1)
michealikruhara0110
Not going with this or at least hinting at it in the prequels makes it feel like to much of a retcon. People just want to forget him. (2)
thatchrisprattissohot
Kind of like Quirrell at the end of the first Harry Potter...
jebascho
Or the gimp from the usual suspects.
MetalSkeletal
Verbal Kint
HydrochloricKitten
Can we finally just admit this: Lucas isn't a story-teller, he's a toy-seller. Gary Kurtz is the story-teller and he left after ESB.
RachTrap
Have you ever seen THX 1138? Or realize the fact that Lucas wrote the movies? It was only after star wars became popular he made the toys.
cracklinoatbran
Yes, & let's not forget his ex-wife Marcia. It was her edit of Ep 4 that made it to the big screen. The original edit was crap.
azurepenguin
Well he did put together an amazing team and came up with the idea to make a movie about space samurai. Kudos for that.
RachTrap
Also, most great movies end up having tons of edits. Also really bad movies get tons of edits too. Lucas is a great writer, just not perfect
pronacc
AlexPanciera
Yes.
itsimpossibletofindausernamethatisnttaken
If you're familiar at all with Dune, I liken Lucas to Holtzman. Had a couple legitimately genius ideas but was largely supported by others.
HappyEngineer
That 'Luke Goes Dark' article says RotJ originally had an ambiguous, darker ending but was changed to a 'euphoric' Ewok party for toy sales.
CrimeBrulee
Exactly. Lucas is shit for story telling. That's how I know none of this is true: Lucas couldn't ever come up with anything so subtle 1/2
theminutenewt
Can I just tell you I love your name, my fiance and I say it to each other all the time when one is rude
pirateninjaunicornattacksquad
Wasn't Kurtz brought in to help write the script for Force Awakens? I remember reading that he was involved in the early creative process.
LordSkeltal
yep.
HydrochloricKitten
1/2 I did a bit of digging and I haven't found that. The most that I've found is that he visited the set (see 2/2)
HydrochloricKitten
2/2 http://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/2014/12/more-evidence-about-the-force-awakens-practical-effects.html
Stolf
While I absolutely love this idea, they're giving George "I hate sand" Lucas way to much credit
mithiwithi
Since you bring that up, the only way I could make sense of the Anakin/Padme romance is if he were subtly mind-influencing her. 1/2
mithiwithi
An otherwise intelligent girl falling for such corny lines would only be possible with Force persuasion behind it. 2/2
Myfirstnamewaschosen
"They only work on the weak mind." Well, when it came to Ani (at the least) she was that.
Cheomesh
I thought that was what DID happen?
OneTripAroundTheSun
"i hate sand. it is rough. not like you. you are soft." - such prose.
Tjayebird
Omg I forgot about that terrible line *is crying*
MedievalExponents
I somewhat agree. Lucas seems to have gotten duller with time.
millenniumf
Lucas has ALWAYS been dull. Read any of his first drafts of ANH and they sound EXACTLY like the prequels.
RhymingEverything
Lucas was horrible at dialogue, a genius at SFX and underratedly clever at constructing plots
millenniumf
Not necessarily. George has always been a great "ideas man". I mean, if he hadn't been, American Graffiti, Indiana Jones, and Star Wars 1/?
millenniumf
wouldn't have been as good as they were. The ideas are always solid; it's the execution that's iffy. So I think this fan theory is 2/?
millenniumf
plausible. It could very well be that George had a great idea, but executed it extremely poorly. 3/3
Morsealworth
The only reason Star Wars 1 were as good as they were was because more than a half of the movie was comprised from ideas stolen from Dune.
millenniumf
I disagree. The story is one of seven classic story types, and besides the only parallel between Dune and ANH is the desert world.
Stolf
You mean how he wanted Indy3 to be in a haunted house, and Han Solo to be some frog thing? The man was saved by people challenging him
ScoreQuest
"I wish that I could just wish away my feelings." Yeah Lucas can't write dialogue.
damspam
Oh my sweet god, that was actually a line?
jrntn
It's definitely not a masterpiece. But isn't that how terribly people speak when they're emotionally under pressure, really?
BhawbTheMagnificent
No, in real life people always give perfect passionate monologues without a single mistake. /s
IgnatiusJReilly2601
I think Picard was better than Kirk.
SmittyShmee
http://www.quickmeme.com/img/25/255d775885092430cb726cbe8549b2cd4b93a63e0c48062aa21aebb567eae751.jpg
kumaclimber
Picard 4 life
Schralepin
Agreed.
NotDeadYet
Literally laughed out loud +1
MEL357
Picard did not crush pussy.
NarcissusInc
Storm trooper accuracy argument- https://www.reddit.com/comments/gwtio/regarding_the_accuracy_of_stormtroopers/
Sprixxen
Does it explain how storm troopers have brain damage too? (looking at you EP. VI). Fan theories are fun, but not movie accurate.
ButterNubbs
You should make this into a post
yeaboy67
It's been posted on imgur several times
GangplankTheSaltwaterScourge
Except its horseshit. Just watched ep6 yesterday. The troopers were shit-tier in every way. And those were apparently the best of em.
Cheomesh
That whole thing with the Ewoks is shit.
TreeSlippity
If you correct, it would be awesome. But Disney didn't buy SW from Lucas to take any chances. They are only in it for the money.
ButterfaceTaintClown
meesa gonna make biiig money master anakin, with grand poodoo...
Glumerlink
Disney's just trying to save the series from George Lucas
Stewker
Pretty much this. Excluding the last movie of the prequels, which was only passable, George Lucas ran that franchise into the ground.
sirkibblemunchkerflap
Jokes on you episode 3 is the highest rated of all 6 movies.
Incantanto
I thought the last movie was the worst: really stilted dialogue.
DarthFutuza
You say that like the prequels didn't make tons of money. Financially, Star Wars was still successful as ever.
MetalSkeletal
So was X-Men 3. Godfather 3. Fast & Furious 2 - 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000. etc, etc.
Glumerlink
Now all they need to do is get the rights to Indiana Jones and everyone will be safe from rape
laroline
what the fuck?
Glumerlink
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfMkvnyLYU4
Glumerlink
it was an entire episode of south park about how lucas and spielberg were raping their franchises
ButterfaceTaintClown
the most expensive intervention in history.
ILovePomeranians
If only GL actually had that much foresight.
lawlstudent
It could just be an homage to Issac Asimov's Mule character in the Foundation trilogy
ZiRiS
Well...he DID have the foresight to retain all marketing rights...
IJUSTMADETHEVOICEINYOURHEADYELL
IT WOULD MAKE FOR A GREAT EU BOOK, BUT I DOUBT THAT IN THE MOVIES HE WAS ANYTHING MORE THAN A SILLY CHARACTER FOR KIDS.
AdiHolm
Now I really want and NEED this to happen!
1AMTHEBATMAN
I'M BATMAN
FistfulOfAssholes
+1 for relevant user name
ChosenOneWeuWeuWeu
LOUD NOISES
PieAndPunch
God dammit you beat me to it Brick
sexysexyhungarians
Jar Jar was Anakin's father, but he got plastic surgery so he wouldn't embarrass him when he showed him his face.
HydrochloricKitten
THIS sounds like George Lucas.
Amandahugandmurder
But Anakin was born from the midochlorians, they say it in the first one, that there was no father, that's what made him the chosen one
MADMIKE
Would you admit that you fucked, Jar Jar? Nah midochlorians/immaculate birth was a risky gambit that paid off.
AKiwiCrusader
Haha
sexysexyhungarians
You know I feel like something stupid was said there by me, but I'm just going to roll with it.
DaPastry
You know you're one letter away from being sexysexygungarians
ConvokeMyropolist
Jar Jar : I'm your father. Anakin : Nooooooo!
gratuitousarp
Jar Jar: Annie, meesa you's father. Anakin: *blank stare at camera*
SmertNSpecial
There's that mirror thing again
sexysexyhungarians
I have to say, this alternate universe is growing more and more sophisticated by the minute.
InertUsername
I've read a couple of these and I actually think this would be amazing if they had the balls to actually roll with it.
zackofspades
My only request in this continuity is that JJ was using a fake voice and actually talks like James Earl Jones.
HOOMANGUY
People also fantasised that in matrix reloaded, the real world is a simulation too. But they didn't go with it and just made Neo jesus...
xrufus7x
That's what I thought. It would have fit with the whole humans need conflict thing. Also jesus neo was stupid.
respiratorradiator
"balls to roll with it" Have you seen BB-8? They are rolling balls, alright.
ThatCookieGuy
The only thing that I question is the falling/force sprint, the athletic jump and such that would to his hand to the jedi.
FinallyRElephant
I enjoy the Belated Media videos about one guy's really good ideas for the prequels Episode I: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgICnbC2-_Y
FinallyRElephant
Episode II: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAbug3AhYmw Episode III he said recently will be out before the new movie
tomyironmane
Episode 3 would have been an epic mindblow that would have made it a legend; millions of voices would cry out, only to be stunned silent.
LtKifKroker
A plot twist 15 years in the making
Str0phicus
http://imgur.com/rfmQqXc
MorganMcJiggleson
I would walk out of the theater if they did this, no joke.
Bellerophone
Me too. I don't know what's wrong with the internet today
APersonWhoUsesImgur
I think we all would eventually, like when the movie ends.
Daeus92
Yeh I don't think it's something I wanna see come to fruition either.
magus6796
Also, I just read that the voice actor for Jar-Jar said in an interview, that Jar-Jar's story arc was changed a lot after the first movie...
magus6796
...could it be true?! https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/236oks/iama_ahmed_best_actorwriterdirector_best_known/cgtzef8
ChristIHateThisWebsite
Actually
RottenKitten
Las personas tienden a ver lo que éstas quieren ver.
newsguycraigevans
No me gusto Jar Jar, pero cada loco con su tema.
jsd3306
I want... to believe...
nesurame
I think that never dropping the dumb-lucky-guy act when nobody was around made it hard for the audience to believe he's sinister.
tomyironmane
That's the point. The real bad dude is the one you never realize was bad, even when he "accidentally" kills you.
nesurame
I was talking about it from the Audience's perspective. Usually there are hints for the audience to put it together, like Palpatine from Ep1
ri59
Yeah there are times we see just him alone and he's still bumbling. Just a scene in the preqs being normal would give this more weight.
Bombpier
You gotta LIVE the long con
nesurame
I was getting more at how nothing about him seems sinister. Usually, there are signs that only the audience sees hinting at these things
Bombpier
I agree but some fan theories are so good even the creators will listen. I mean I would accept JJ as a sith, if when discovered he went evil
domenick91
But his jump isn't a force jump. The species is akin to something like frogs, right?
3u41a614
That's what I thought, but a bumbling idiot with that beautiful jump? Even if you disregard that one point, the rest still adds up.
ThatCookieGuy
Instinct? Or his clumsiness could be, not coordination based, but airheadedness.
LtKifKroker
Are there any other instances of other Gungans making jumps like that? If they could all do that they should've done it in the fight scene.
MvrdrH0rn3t
Yeah this is really cool... I actually wouldn't have a problem with him being in more movies. Except that voice... So bad.
Nottherealslimshadyjusthisbodydouble
Could also be an 'act' or at least altered after a reveal
zackofspades
Plot twist: real voice is James Earl Jones, Darth Vader's voice was a recording of Jar Jar's.
Bibulus
Darth Vader was Jar Jar all along!
zackofspades
Ani was framed.
magellan007
That'd be welcoming
alucardtnuoc
Even though people were pissed about jar jar, having him revealed as "this was planned and even YOU Fell for his tricks"
lronMaiden
And there we have it. On coming new "I'm your father" class of reveal.
alucardtnuoc
Would have been a good thing
zackofspades
If it goes forward though they would need a pretty intense explanation of where he is during the mid episodes.
tomyironmane
Really? It's a big galaxy. What makes you think you get to see EVERYTHING?
zackofspades
I'm saying why wouldn't he be involved in the obviously major events? Its not impossible but it better be a damn good explanation.
keyserv
I feel like they could have made it work.
SharkHero08
1-In the Reddit thread the author proposes that this was GL's actual plan with the 2nd and 3rd movies but changed it last minuet due to
SharkHero08
2- the backlash at the original depiction of Jar Jar
keyserv
Yeah that's in this post. I still think they could have made it work.
Geoffistopheles
Doubt it. It makes a larger continuity error than Yoda being Obi-Wan's master in the OT and Qui-Gon's appearance in the prequels.
NiceLegsDaisyDukesMakesAMAAANOUTOFYOOOUUUU
Jar-Jar Binks is the Star Wars version of Tom Bombadil. Hooleee shit.
watchrinserepeat
how "bom-bad"!
SickOfBeardsley
Bom-bad... ill?
Redmancometh
Wow. I've always thought the Bombadil scene was cut because he'd be annoying though kinda-sorta badass...jar-jar fits that perfectly!
DarthFutuza
This is by far the most convincing image that jar jar is evil.
goonitednations
is this from the trailer for the new one or from one of the other movies?
DarthFutuza
Episode III Revenge of the Sith
goonitednations
thank you!
Mr107
Yeah I totally don't remember that part. I'm waiting until December to rewatch them but this makes me wanna start now.
AtalanBeardy
I'm going to be doing a Machete marathon and a Ring watch.
kmlkmljkl
I started last week, gonna watch 1 to 3 this week
kmlkmljkl
gonna continue the clone wars too, but I doubt I'll be done before 7 comes out
iCommentPics
TrumpSuxIvankastoeslikechillidogs
What's happening in this image, other than Jar Jar being by Sheev?
DarthFutuza
Jar jar is accompanied by Sidious's most trusted advisors and fellow conspirators? Why is he in this group?
SomewhereBetweenTheSacredSilenceAndSleep
How do we know it's jarjar, do we see his face thereafter?
5omeWhiteGuy
yes that is jar jar. hes the only gungan known to be off their home planet during the movies.
notavampire
He's also the only gungan in the movie depicted with a reddish hue to his skin, if I remember. The rest were mostly greens and browns.
thunder2132
Even that, blues, greens, browns, all Jedi colors, but reds? Sith.
BiteTheHandsThatThieve
The robes, too. They look like sith robes.
KillerTofu615
Aren't those just the senate robes?
azureraptor
I don't think he would've worn Sith robes in public, though.
undungubungu
Didnt palpatine practically do that?
DarthFutuza
Once he became Emperor, yes. Before that point it was just senator robes.
azureraptor
I don't think they were his actual Sunday-go-to-murder Sith robes, though.
villlllle
This all would mean the Robot Chicken Star Wars specials aren't canon though. www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdS2kCUGvfo
villlllle
I don't know how to link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdS2kCUGvfo
DarthFutuza
He becomes a force ghost, which further proves Jar Jar can use the force, what do you mean?
villlllle
Well I was more thinking about the killing-of-him having a negative value for his living in the upciming episodes.
DarthFutuza
"If you strike me down I will become more powerful than you can ever imagine". Seems like it's all part of the plan.