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Hello fellow Imgurians I am pleading for your help. I just recently found out about this current very important issue happening in my backyard.
The Issue:
Developer Gypsum Resources is seeking the Clark County Commissioner's approvals to rezone land from rural to high density so that he can develop a 5,000+ home community on the mountain in the heart of Red Rock. We cannot let this happen!
On Wednesday, February 22nd at 9:00 a.m. is the official date of the meeting that will determine the fate of Red Rock Canyon. I urge you all to please help by signing the petition. It does not matter where you live this is a world wide effort. I am trying to spread this like wild fire. I'm not doing this for up votes. I just want to help save and preserve Red Rock Canyons from unnecessary development.
Help us win this fight! You can:
-Attend the Clark County Commission meeting and wear red to show your support for Red Rock!
-Go to www.saveredrock.com to:
-sign the petition
-call your commissioners 702-455-3500
-donate
-learn more at www.saveredrock.com
•Get to know Red Rock Canyon•
The Red Rock Canyon National Conservation Area is located is located about 15 miles (24 km) west of Las Vegas, easily seen from the Las Vegas Strip and encompasses 195,819 acres within the Mojave Desert. The area is visited by more than two million people each year. The conservation area showcases a set of large red rock formations: a set of sandstone peaks and walls called the Keystone Thrust. The walls are up to 3,000 feet (910 m) high, making them a popular hiking and rock climbing destination. The highest point is La Madre Mountain, at 8,154 feet (2,485 m).A one-way loop road also known as The Scenic Drive is 13 miles (21 km) long. Red Rock Canyon National Conservation Area has one developed campground located two miles east of the visitor center.
•Natural Wonders•
The great sandstone cliffs at Red Rock, thousands of feet high, are made up of the Aztec Sandstone. This formation, about 180 – 190 million years old, is comprised of lithified sand dunes that formed in a vast desert that covered a large part of the southwestern United States during the Jurassic time. Lithification is the process of changing unconsolidated sediment into sedimentary rock. Massive cross-bedding, typical of aeolian (wind) deposits, is a result of the shifting wind direction across the Jurassic dune field, and is seen in the Aztec Sandstone rock outcrops.
Red Color
The red color of some of the outcrops of the Aztec Sandstone is due to presence of iron oxide or hematite. Exposure to the elements caused iron minerals to oxidize or “rust,” resulting in red, orange, and brown-colored rocks. Areas where the rock is buff in color may be places where the iron has been leached out by subsurface water, or where the iron oxide was never deposited.
Iron Concretions
Red spots in the Aztec Sandstone are iron concretions, where subsurface water has precipitated iron oxide around a nucleus in the sandstone. These concretions are more resistant to erosion than the surrounding sandstone, and weather into little balls known as Indian or Moqui Marbles.
Limestone
More than 500 million years ago Red Rock Canyon NCA was at the bottom of an ocean basin. Mostly limestone (and dolomite) accumulated in this ocean basin for over 250 million years during the Paleozoic Era. The limestones contain the fossils of sea life that flourished during that time. Thousands of feet of the gray Paleozoic limestones are exposed at LaMadre Mountain to the northwest of the Scenic Loop Drive.
(Picture credit: EddieLluismaPhotography)
•Protecting Endangered Species• The desert tortoise (Gopherus agassizii)
The desert tortoise (Gopherus agassizii) is a gentle reptile which spends much of its life in underground burrows. The burrows are excavated by the animals to escape the harsh summer and winter weather conditions of the desert. Unfortunately, the slow moving reptile is vulnerable to a number of threats which could led to the demise of the species. These concerns lead to a petition to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service in 1984 to consider listing the desert tortoise under the Federal Endangered Species Act. After further evaluation and public hearings, the tortoise was permanently listed as threatened on April 2, 1990.
•DINOSAURS!!! "TOP SECRET"•
The tracks of small bipedal (two-footed) therapod (meat-eating) dinosaurs have been found in the Aztec Sandstone at Red Rock Canyon. The small animal tracks made by proto-mammals, early mammals, and arachnids (spiders and scorpions) were also found. Paleontologists at Red Rock are trying to keep the sites secret, at least until they can be cataloged and studied.
Thank you all for taking a look and hopefully signing this petition. If you are ever in Las Vegas please take a visit to Red Rock Canyon. You won't regret your time there.
http://saveredrock.com
waytoocreamy
Misleading, won't sign
SergeantOldSchool
http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/las-vegas/clark-county-again-faces-proposal-develop-blue-diamond-hill
InternetQueen
Huh. Just killed a bunch of Great Khans here...
BlankhasdiedofDysentery
Why would Clark county care about a bunch of random people on a website signing a petition.
Sionas
apparently it's for an area 5 miles from red Rock, not actually in red rock. Misleading.
Rodeodoc
You object to everything, don't you? Even shit that isn't true.
PuellaSilentii
Misleading people while asking for aid was and is a stupid move.
Deermane
Idk living there sounds awesome
HeartsAndStars
Former Las Vegan here. Red Rock is a Haven those of us who felt trapped in the city. I'll sign and share!
puppydogtail
Thank you so much! You completely understand where I am coming from. We need to protect our small Haven.
njgroves
Is there a petition that I can sign to help build the homes?
OutrageousHemmorhoid
Don't worry, won't the wasteland tribe, the Khans, repel the developers?
Dots77
Red Dead Redemption....... Where do I sign?
puppydogtail
https://www.ipetitions.com/petition/save-red-rock-final/
SirRobinTheNotQuiteSoBraveAsSirLancelot
The Great Khans would like to be left alone.
SomeOwls
Best comment, and #never forget bitter springs
Mistruths
IDK the water there left a bad taste in my mouth.
sweetsasymolasy1234
Thanks for all the advanced notice.
Panda4hire
I grew up going to this place. I signed it.
thewalkendude
The big question: is it red, and does it have rocks in it?
FloydForward
At first I thought theese were screenshots from Red Dead Redemtion 2.
puppydogtail
Well at least I got your attention :)
MangoMonster7
Shouldn't petitions that would effect pretty much only the locals, especially seeing as this is for the strip mine and not red rock, be...
MangoMonster7
signed by the locals and not a bunch of random people that will probably never visit?
TwiceK
'Oh good, 8000 people from other states, and 1200 people from other countries agree with this petition. 9 locals though, so it stops nothing
BlankhasdiedofDysentery
The locals are in favor so they have to get random people on the internet to do it.
Blastergv9
Fuck man I only lived in Vegas for a year but I absolutely love climbing in Red Rock Canyon.
IveKilledBefore
If they close Red Rock, where am I supposed to turn in Daisy Domergue?
IronBaronOfDis
Thanks for the reminder!
puppydogtail
Direct link to the petition https://www.ipetitions.com/petition/save-red-rock-final/
Cheomesh
Building houses in the desert.
WarpedSense
Why not put an IKEA there so everybody wins?
Cheomesh
Building houses in the desert.
IronBaronOfDis
I live in Vegas and high density housing, traffic, litter, etc. will certainly impact the area badly. And animals don't see park borders.
aDefenseless9yearOldGirl
Umm, this area is not subject to rezoning. I don't know what your game actually is, but the area you are discussing is under no threat.
SergeantOldSchool
The actual area in reference is Blue Diamond Hill not RRC http://www.reviewjournal.com/sites/default/files/BLUE-DIAMOND-AUG15-16.jpg
OutrageousHemmorhoid
The game is Fallout: New Vegas. He must be a member of the Khans, a local wasteland tribe.
puppydogtail
Please visit the website to find out what the game is. http://saveredrock.com/current-efforts/
Dagordae
So you want to preserve an abandoned strip mine)"?
aDefenseless9yearOldGirl
Yeah see that's valid, and I'll sign, don't mislead people into thinking the land is getting developed.
ForgotMyOtherAcct
the actual canyon is protected. This is rezoning an area already industrially used.
WhyAreAllNamesTakenExceptForThisOne
Upvote for awareness.
PrinceMaggot
Houses can't be built on top of other houses. (Kinda) Overpopulation is going to kill us all, might as well get comfy while we can.
Zardif
We reached peak baby, fertility is dropping and the population is reaching a plateau.
PrinceMaggot
I dont believe that, but a good ol' source will make me believe otherwise
Zardif
https://esa.un.org/unpd/wpp/Publications/Files/Key_Findings_WPP_2015.pdf declining fertility rates from 1.24 to 1.18 projected plateau @2100
Zardif
http://www.economist.com/news/international/21619986-un-study-sparks-fears-population-explosion-alarm-misplaced-dont-panic
SergeantOldSchool
1 Misleading. Red Rock Canyon is a National Conservation Area and is not the subject of the rezoning. An abandoned gypsum strip mine 5 miles
neochiken1
Now I want a petition to stop this petition lol
fistermatic5000
Honestly I've never even thought about signing a petition I see on Imgur.
SergeantOldSchool
Present me with one, and I'll look at it, but I'll also look beyond it and if it's garbage, it's garbage.
SergeantOldSchool
4 Just reading the hateful comments on the petition makes me not want to support it.
Somnophobe
Isn't that where the Deathclaws hang out?
IronBaronOfDis
I live in Vegas and high density housing, traffic, litter, etc. will certainly impact the area badly. And animals don't see park borders.
SergeantOldSchool
I don't disagree, and in only 23 words, you've already made a better case than OP. No peripheral distraction, straight to the point.
SergeantOldSchool
5 they are literally wanting to build a community (not a housing project) on what is currently a stagnant strip mine.
Knukails
Thanks sarnt
SergeantOldSchool
The power of google compels me. I just wish others would use it, too. Unlimited information at our fingertips...
JustKiddingOrAmI
Dammit. How do I unsign a petition. I got played.
SergeantOldSchool
The overall idea of opposing the development has merit, but the subjective and down right deceptive manner they approach it does not.
SergeantOldSchool
Get people standing on the sidelines pumping fists and yelling "yeah!" to whatever you're selling; torches and pitchforks aren't far behind.
r0bber
My whole deal with petitions and protests is that organizers think that 1600 signatures or people is enough to get somebody's attention 1/2
derekjohn
As an ex-politician (in another country) you need to know that one well-written and cogent letter is more powerful than about 200 signatures
SergeantOldSchool
Objectivity is a lost tool, in an immeasurably large pool of the subjective fool.
r0bber
On top of the fact, and thank you for posting your sources, that most of the organizers lie to get their way
SergeantOldSchool
I work with multiple conservatories on a regular basis, and truly know and feel the aggravation that willful misinformation like this cause
geiokami
Similar to the petition a few weeks ago to "take away the big red nuke button from trump"
SergeantOldSchool
I'm often dumbfounded not by the ridiculous petitions, but by the number of signatures on the illegible ramblings that pose as petitions.
SergeantOldSchool
I urge everyone to support conservation, but do so intelligently and with due diligence, but do it the right way for the right reasons.
Wander1236
Source?
SergeantOldSchool
https://lasvegassun.com/news/2016/oct/17/with-a-development-near-red-rock-canyon-back-on-th/
SergeantOldSchool
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Rock_Canyon_National_Conservation_Area
SergeantOldSchool
https://lasvegassun.com/news/2017/feb/20/save-red-rock-clark-county-commission/
SergeantOldSchool
http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/las-vegas/clark-county-again-faces-proposal-develop-blue-diamond-hill
SergeantOldSchool
I love the part in this video where the lady starts talking about "the baby bunnies, coyotes, owls" when for every 1 rabbit hit by a car,
SergeantOldSchool
there's a dozen or more eaten by coyotes and owls. But, people will petition for baby bunnies vs. evil companies, every day, and never look
SergeantOldSchool
beyond that one narrow view. Later in the video, the big guy with the white beard, he's the only one who actually speaks any sense about why
SergeantOldSchool
3 provide all the information, and quit leading people to believe that someone is trying to build something INSIDE Red Rock Canyon NCA.
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itsfabulous
Pretty sure it's supposed to go "...high density. Provide..."
mylifeforhire
I think they're two different sentences, the full stop just didnt make it in.
SergeantOldSchool
Everybody got it right, it was a full stop, but I didn't get the . in
SergeantOldSchool
Thank you, @mylifeforhire and @itsfabulous for assisting with logic. We could use more of that around here, especially the topic at hand.
SergeantOldSchool
2 away is what is the subject of rezoning. It is currently zoned for rural (1500 homes) and the rezoning request is for high density (5000)
SergeantOldSchool
OMG, the more I read stuff on saveredrock.com the more my head hurts. They say that going from 1500 to 5000 homes is a 500% increase.
ForgotMyOtherAcct
..ew. Those statistics.
SergeantOldSchool
http://saveredrock.com/about/frequently-asked-questions/
PharmasaurasRx
MVP of the day
SergeantOldSchool
Nah, I'm just doing what I wish others would: Researching it for myself before jumping on a bandwagon.