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Groznek
Good god shut up
notaballoon
What if I told you only worrying about oppression in the context of telling certain people to stop complaining is a dick move?
DoubleStashed
Get your redpill bullshit off the front page. That movie was written by two trans women.
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MayraV
What if I told you it's so easy to say anything you don't go through is not a problem.
BallsToYouSirAndOrMadam
And yet, here we are, using the greatest tool we have ever devised, to bitch about people bitching, probably while on the toilet.
gnomedeplume
What if I told you real privilege is being able to make shitty old-ass memes about other people complaining about problems the OP never had
ASuhDue
"For all its material advantages, the sedentary life has left us edgy, unfulfilled..." Carl Sagan
scanlon180
moodytravesty
I consider it a problem that others consider it a problem. I couldn't care less.
AOCsUnshavenChode
Agreed. Walking away is something everyone should be able to do. Oh wait. Everyone can.
DudePlayinADudeDisguisedAsAnotherDude
I'd say you don't know what you're talking about, OP.
rambot
Every now and then I think a good old fashion war round these parts would REALLY help people prioritize problems in their lives.
TestAccount321
Oh, fucking lord. Unapologetic Redpill shit on the front page.
kiticakes
The username tops it off too.
DepIorable
Volimar
I mean, you don't ignore the little things just because there are also big things. You can focus on more than one thing at once.
Anthraxwastaken
Beong trans often isn't a little thing for people either, itms a really major thing
Volimar
True. I'm speaking in general. The people complaining don't seem to have these issues as part of their life experience.
CidColetti
I don't understand what is happening. I'm 35, am I old? I don't feel too old. Do I just not get stuff anymore?
youresowrongImadeanaccount
Everything you need to know about this post is in the title. Ignore and move along.
preaction
I'm 34. OP doesn't want to care about certain people, so he makes fake arguments like this one to dismiss them.
imyourrealdad
edgy
GuardLLama
https://imgur.com/3MTRQ9w
Groznek
About the gender mislabelling...You don't know, because you're not trans. It hurts to have your identity denied. It may seem trivial to you,
Groznek
but it really ain't to the people it matters to.
Zombraina
My cousin is trans, ftm, and he cried when a family friend of his finally called him by his chosen name and correct pronouns. It means a 1/
Zombraina
lot to them. Hell, I'm a cis woman and I'd be upset if people kept calling me a man. I am not a man.
TestAccount321
"Dur, there's not a famine here, so you should consider it a privilege to be here if we vote in laws to take your rights away!' Great logic
Darkspire
Shhhh, shhhhhhhhh, go back to sleep, everything is fine. *slowly sharpens cleaver*
Ferrumkit
Anything that can be taken away, which under law BoRs can be curtailed if you commit felonies, is a privilege. G.C. explains that mess well.
TheSidewinder17
I feel like i have a counter argument for you sir but i just woke up and cant think, so just have this +1
ButtersakaProfChoas
Who and in what fashion?
TheStaleBread
I swear to god, imgur's one of the few places where the comments are smarter than the posts
KCandtheIliotibialBand
I'm a white, Christian raised, republican voting (not Trump though) male in the south and I approve this comment
BushelOfLabeouf
"Hey minorities, just be happy we aren't bigger dicks to you. If you can't accept it gtfo." -OP
NamelessAndrew
This is such bullshit on so many levels.
seriouslyguyscmon
I think that was the point of the post...
NamelessAndrew
Was it? Maybe I am just stupid. @OP an you confirm?
meltdown2
Or claiming your religion is under attack because your coffee joint stopped putting Christmas on their cups.
theresgarlicinthatnebula
Or, more recently, because we didn't actively give you an award for excellent character because you're an unrepentant bigot.
theresgarlicinthatnebula
Or, more recently, because we didn't actively give you an award for excellent character because you're an unrepentant bigot.
GraffitiHeysoos
What if I told you that things YOU consider to not be problems can be actual problems for the people that have to deal with them?
seriouslyguyscmon
Then I guess the rest of us would tell you to stop being such a pussy.
GraffitiHeysoos
Fight me, bitch.
seriouslyguyscmon
Ok, *now* I'm laughing at you. Get those emotions under control, big guy.
GraffitiHeysoos
Yeah, that's what I thought. Pussy.
seriouslyguyscmon
Dude. You're being a telephone tough guy on the internet. Now you're not just a whiny little bitch, you're also a complete fucking retard.
Irishda
"I'm pretty sure all these minorities and women are just making things up" -Red Pill
GraffitiHeysoos
It's the only logical explanation!
GraffitiHeysoos
Oh. I'd get downvoted. Ok.
GraffitiHeysoos
I didn't mean for this to get upvotes. Downvote this an equal amount to compensate for the cheap upvotes!
MeanGreenMemeQueen
Whatever helps distract you from our inevitable death
azurevin
Please no though or, rather, keep them to yourself. These things have brought down the gaming industry already, fucking oppressed victims...
DSVII
Psychick
And the inevitable heat death of the universe
LarfleezePlz
SnoopyDancing
ain't that the truth!
CheesyPoofsWithSomeFavaBeansAndANiceChianti
Seriously this. Bullshit pseudo-problems stopped bothering me once constant awareness of my mortality set in around the time I turned 33.
Gatadata
meme's
FlintStick
I like you
ijoinedtoupvotestuff
And climate change
hankitae06
You hear that, Mr. Anderson? That is the sound of inevitability.
RichardButtsonthe3rd
You'll be wishing for death after the anti-aging drugs hit in 2025. Don't worry, only the rich will afford them.
CheesyPoofsWithSomeFavaBeansAndANiceChianti
I'll only be 45. Why would rich people staying young-looking make me wish for death?
CheesyPoofsWithSomeFavaBeansAndANiceChianti
I'll only be 45. Why would rich people staying young-looking make me wish for death?
Enohpoxas
pepaa
I really widh I could favorite this comment
UrsaUrsa
Take the URL, remove the .png, go to page, favorite. You're welcome :)
pepaa
mindblown
soulscythe
Wow, I don't remember writing my innermost thoughts on a meme, and yet here we are.
Foxyfox135
Bruh
BryantTaylor
Well shit if this ain't me
UpvoteTotem
Surprised it took me this long to see this
kaarbaak1337
We all live. Not all of us truly die.
Sadsquid
isn't this supposed to be the opposite?
100PercentCanadianBeef
r/im14andthisisdeep
CheesyPoofsWithSomeFavaBeansAndANiceChianti
Wait, what?
SteevyT
Can entropy ever be reversed?
ComradeSillyOtter
Life is existance's shot at it!
GreatGopher
There is insufficient data for a meaningful answer
mugiwaranoSimon
perfection
EmergencyAustralian
In an isolated system, entropy can only increase!
Thefear1984
Negentropy
degenerator
Sure. "yportne"
PugLife2000
"LOL butthurt libtards!" - OP masturbating alone at night
IHateYouMyselfAndEveryone
I agree with him. Ive seen shit that makes US issues absolutely pale in comparison but, am glad for it. Id rather most people not understand
IHateYouMyselfAndEveryone
what its like watching infants bleed out from bullet wounds and die of injuries sustained from a brutal rape on a tiny body. Id much prefer
IHateYouMyselfAndEveryone
a country where gender issues have the time and space to be actual issues.
residentolive
DRC?
tiarali
You know that transgender people in the US are being actually murdered right? They want language to change so that they can stop dying.
IHateYouMyselfAndEveryone
Are you trying to compare issues? Transgendered people have every right to exist in the US.
DepIorable
The suicide rate among trans community is alarming.
Rednustard
Non problem problems have been getting bigger and bigger the last few decades.
AlexanderTheGood
It's like non-ironic first world problems.
AccioCatGIFs
The smaller problems appear bigger on social media.
MajorPubes
It's only on the internet it seems, this has never once come up in conversation irl...maybe it's just me
doodybird
It's pretty much only on the internet because that's where the freaks go to live out their shameful fantasies and pretend to have any power.
AgolfHiller
We have been at semi global peace for a long time
NotACanadian
Hierarchy of needs.
Marvellous86
People really want to go to war.
TheBritfag
We need another big war.
HaYouLose
Definitely a possibility. Yet, as we all know, war today carries greater probability of mass destruction than it did 100 years ago.
GraffitiHeysoos
Non problems = Things I don't care about. "Get over your stupid depression! People are dying in Syria! Gah!"
Rednustard
Our conscious thoughts greatly affect our psyche. I think life sucks therefore it does. That is 90% of depressed people.
DrNadz
I completely realize you said this sarcastically, but the fact that u feel that your sadness is more important than children's lives is sad.
llamalibrarian
are you saying someone with depression can will themselves out of it by going "well, at least I'm not a kid dying somewhere else" ?
DrNadz
No I am saying comparing dying kids to depression should be eyeopening to the world, & that sometimes we have to figure out our priorities.
GraffitiHeysoos
You completely missed the point of what I said, I'm afraid. The point was that depression = minor personal prob. Syria = Major global one.
GraffitiHeysoos
Um... I'm not sure how you get that from what I said.
BadgerSims
Homosexuality was a crime for a long time. Alan Turing helped end WWII and was then jailed. It's good when society gets time to think
Svartlebee
And that was a bigger issue than some people getting into twists because whites have dreadlocks.
ARSONlST
Anyone wanting to learn more The Imitation Game ( http://m.imdb.com/title/tt2084970 ) is a good movie on the subject
Individualsocksinthewashingmachine
One of the single most influential people in the outcome of the war and how he was treated makes me ashamed of our history.
Deszie
Beautifully said
wurdtoyer
He did recently recieve a post-humous pardon from either the crown or the British Government. For what that's worth.
afriendofmine
You're downplaying the role of Aran Turing to society. Basically any fucking computer in any of its forms is a Turing Machine. He created
BadgerSims
Yeah I had limited text and kinda wanted to mention the war given it was a different time when people were focused on all out war.
afriendofmine
Sorry if it seemed I was accusing you of something, tho. I just wanted to mention how, in context, his WW2 effort is kinda small by compare.
BadgerSims
;)
senefen
I mean, you only get 140 characters here. They probably wanted to keep it one comment rather than deliberately downplaying imho.
afriendofmine
NO! ALAN IS LOVE, ALAN IS LIFE. Seriously, though, the implications far exceeded the immediate contributions, as we can clearly see.
afriendofmine
not only the first theoretical model for an information handling machine but also proved its fucking computational limits in a clever manner
afriendofmine
Reducing that Turing's contributions to humanity to WWII is like saying that the French Revolution helped a few guys vent their anger in
afriendofmine
monarch-era France. Yes, I'm a Turing fanboy. I'm a straight man, but if there is _one_ person I just might consider going gay for out of
afriendofmine
sheer admiration and respect, that person is Alan Goddamn Turing. And to that badass we, as a society, betrayed. #WeAreNotWorthy
DoubleStashed
'The Matrix' was written and directed by two trans women. I feel like the irony is being missed by OP.
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DigitalMau
no, it was written by 2 men who years later decided to jump on the transwagon. who they are now doesnt change who they were then
fleshytrumpet
Is it difficult to be such a cunt?
BigSnicker
Dammit man, why do you make us dig this far to find this gold?
TunkkisOfFinland
I thought just the other one was trans, and I believe they directed The Matrix before coming out.
DoubleStashed
Lilly only came out last year.
TunkkisOfFinland
Makes sense.
magoslich
*was outed by a magazine if I remember rightly. Didn't want to come out beforehand I think?
Spearse
I don't believe they were trans when they wrote and directed the movies. Lots happen over the years.
DrSchmolls
probably more accurate to say that they weren't out as trans, gay people still gay even if tehy say they're straight in high school
DoubleStashed
I don't want to speak for Lana and Lilly, but most trans people feel that they always were trans, before they were 'out' or transitioning.
Spearse
All I'm saying is at the time they were identifying as men to the public.
theresgarlicinthatnebula
That is not what you said.
DoubleStashed
Okay, I'll give you that. They were men while filming The Matrix the same way Neil Patrick Harris was straight while filming Doogie Howser.
Ringshadow
I believe Turing was also forcibly castrated.
Individualsocksinthewashingmachine
He was sentence to chemical castration but then he comitted suicide
preaction
Sentenced to chemical castration in lieu of prison, yes
Sikea
Forcibly chemically castrated then?
MASSIVESPACEMONKEY
It was a horrid and disgusting choice to be made to make....But a choice it was.
Dogstarlives
No, he chose it. It's no better than being forced it but he chose it with his own will, which is important.
drkepper
and 2 years later committed suicide...
DJNinja
What was castration gonna do for a gay? Keep him from making babies with other men?
HopefullyMadeYouThinkCritically
Yeah! Let's pump everyone full of questionable chemicals to make ourselves feel more comfortable with who they are!
ifuckdragons
Kill his sex drive, for one
Vercci
further stigmatize them.
pudgychicken
sorry if I appear dense, but what's castrated?
TobyHinloopen
No more kids ever
Karilyn
Chopped off his balls.
AnAsOfYetUnidentifiedIndividual
It was chemical. Simmilar effect though
Nightelfbane
Removal of the testicles
pudgychicken
oh okay
NaivePulp
Watch the movie The Imitation Game. Itll get the point across.
theironWombat
Shit I JUST downloaded it the other day I'm not gonna like this am I
Draciallia
It's a fantastic film, and it's a lot more about his sexuality than I thought it was going to be.
pudgychicken
uh well I'll try to remember that
seriouslyguyscmon
Holy False Equivalency, Batman!
BadgerSims
The argument above would be better applied to something like vaccines, where using them has allowed us to reach the comfort to deny them.
BadgerSims
They are all oppressed minorities that require enough progress in society before they feel safe enough to be themselves and demand equality.
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BadgerSims
I just don't think we get to judge what free people do as long as it isn't directly harming others. As much as I find furries strange.
inkpod
Oscar Wilde spent his life doing hard labor after confessing to being gay. OP is right: privileged people obsess over trivialitie s /1
afriendofmine
I was not aware of this. Thank you for educating me on something so important. It already drives me fucking insane with rage over what
afriendofmine
Turing had to go through after what he did for the world, this only adds to the, imo justifiable, fiery rage. Fucking idiots.
inkpod
But wrong by implying that labeling has no consequences /2
protocube
the whole oscar wilde case and the fallout from it is a large source of the origin of modern homophobic attitudes actually, even now still
ThePartyLeader
Exactly. We're so privileged we can start to give a shit about other people. Hence why we help these minorities.
DepIorable
Virtue signaling benefits no one except ones self worth.
AOCsUnshavenChode
You're being downvoted, but at least you're right
ThePartyLeader
I said we. Not I. Plus I would think me saying something good is better than OP insulting people. If not should I instead insult op?
scaredplatypus
When my trans cousin killed herself because she thought her family rejected her, I thought my new born advocacy for trans rights was due 1/
DysgraphicProgrammer
But actually having Virtue is what distinguishes decent people from, well.... you.
scaredplatypus
to a deeper understanding for how hard it can be to live in a body you hate. Turns out I just wanted validation from internet friends. 2/
ThePartyLeader
Imagine how upset these people, who hate lgbtq people, would be if they were called the wrong gender their entire lives.
scaredplatypus
Well considering they can't handle treating others that are different with basic human decency....probably pretty upset.
MushroomCloudsForJesus
I agree but don't fall into the jackass stance of dismissing a problem because a worse one exists elsewhere.
tankdog420
Keep coddling your baby and see what kind of adult it becomes.
Housemaster
How dare you be happy when other people are clearly having a better time!
Strostkovy
I'm not really a fan of people creating problems over nonissues either.
minkuschild
And all of us are not fans of catering to the asshole snowflakes who are plural/none sexes/species.
Strostkovy
Are you agreeing or disagreeing with me? It's meaning seems like agreement, but it's worded really aggressively.
Mostlydeadpool
yeah. Louie CK talks about that. "white people problems" (aka: "man, i hate it when i have to push 1 for english! that's bullshit!")
RoninKai
>Wants to solve bigger problems first >Jackass
ratfaceddog
First. Because things are strictly sequential, in order of importance, right?
MushroomCloudsForJesus
Agreed. But most of these topics are only up for discussion. Not action. Otherwise we can just dismiss everything because of child armies.
dryerlint777
Yes? I want to stop child armies before pretty much anything else.
whatupmyknitters
so what's the reason you're not doing that now?
Youwillneverknowwhoiam
doesn't mean we should only talk about child armies until there are no more child armies.
SpiciestPepperoni
What if I told you even aboriginals with no bed to call their own still don't like native mascots.
TheStaleBread
Yeah, that's really insult to injury. "We don't want to help you, but watch us praise a caricature of your race"
Sloppydrunkcatlady
Maybe it's just me but there's a huge difference between that and people getting pissy over someone wearing dreadlocks or getting henna IMO
Irishda
There is. Thank God we focus so much on the henna and dreadlocks then so we can believe there's no white privilege
jessinthedark
I don't get the dreadlock thing, because, its what hair does naturally when not brushed?
jessinthedark
I don't get the dreadlock thing, because, its what hair does naturally when not brushed?
RoutemasterFlash
Ends up looking like a crow's nest if it's long, is the usual thing.
SukumaRicky
Eh. It takes more effort than that. If that's all you do you end with with deadlock. Not dreadlocks. And that's only if your have kinky hair
SukumaRicky
It takes a lot of work to make nice dreadlocks happen. It takes a lot more if your hair is straight.
4775795f4d616e
Not really related, but why do people still call them Indians? It's not like it's racist or anything, it's just a silly mistake that stuck
GasBandit
Less syllables.
nihilityfarce
The story goes that Christopher Columbus was trying to reach India when he landed in Central America and thought he had succeeded.
CanadianFurr
And it just stuck...
mohammadbinsalmon
because there isnt really enough of an uproar to fix it. i know a fair number of native-canadians that just call themselves indians
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FartedWhileMakingUpName
"Man. The Middlebury High Congolese are tearing it up at the state tournament this year!"
lifeofabaddog
The high school I went to is still the Indians.
alwaysupvotecanadianhistory
Because Indians are from India and, I can't stress this enough, aboriginal peoples actually have their own names for themselves.
mwoodman
Indians from India call themselves Bhāratavāsī if they speak Hindi. Rather insensitive, gōrā ādamī. Or is that not what you call yourself?
GiantBlueSpaceship
During my entire childhood growing up back in India, no one called themselves that... usually "desi" , occasionally "bharatiya"
alwaysupvotecanadianhistory
It's like if the rest of the world suddenly decided Americans weren't gonna be called Americans-from this day forward they're chinese.
alwaysupvotecanadianhistory
"But why are you offended it's just a silly name."
AxelYamanaka
Nah, it's like calling someone on Mars Venitian because you thought you were going to Venus.
flapperfemmefatale
Academic here, I tend to use the term "indigenous Americans"
4775795f4d616e
"Aboriginals" comes from Latin meaning "First population", so I use that.
AmaIthea
Aboriginals makes me think of Australians.
flapperfemmefatale
like the other person said, Aboriginals refers specifically to indigenous Australians.
ratfaceddog
No, it doesn't. Where did you get that? http://www.dictionary.com/browse/aboriginal
RoutemasterFlash
In theory, 'aboriginal' means a native person from anywhere. But yes, in practice, it's almost only ever used for native Australians.
ratfaceddog
Btw, the other person didn't say that.
AgainstMethod
This chick is missing that even poor people and abused people would prefer you call them by the right gender.
TheStaleBread
Yeah, there's a lot of homeless trangender people
GrassfedChicken
Yeaaah. I'm poor and it costs nothing to get the damn gender right.
notkvothethebloodless
I think the point though is that poor/abused people likely have more pressing concerns such as staying alive, instead proper pronoun usage.
GrassfedChicken
You do know that people can have a problem and be annoyed by other problems, right?
barrowboy42
I think that the people who want me to pretend my gender is something it's not don't understand my daily pressing concern of being alive.
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UnifiedHivemind
They get professional help. The current best professional help we can give is transitioning. The body is more easily changed than a brain.
barrowboy42
I've gotten professional help. And now I'm a happy, functional person. Just because you don't get it doesn't mean you get to be a dick.
BardicLasher
I 100% believe that if you want to be something else, and it's not harming anyone, there's no reason not to indulge you.
chopchoptime
Yea I mean I wouldn't want it to be illegal for people to do as they want. But if I can give advice to seek professional help I will.
barrowboy42
It's not about WANTING to be something else. about a disconnect between the brain and the body & there's already an established treatment.
whatupmyknitters
they do get professional help. the most effective treatment known so far is transitioning. don't talk about shit you know nothing about.
chopchoptime
I do know that suicide rates among the transitioning are very high. Is that helping?
woefullylucid
Even if you don't understand it, is it really this big of a god damned deal to change from him to her? Talk about a non-issue.
CheesyPoofsWithSomeFavaBeansAndANiceChianti
I mean, technically yes it's a big deal, just not the kind of big deal conservative asshats make it out to be.
PoliticallyIncorrectAndSoIsYourMom
You said it: "Talk about a non-issue". When they appear to be one of the 2 sexes, then I will address them as such. Otherwise, piss-off.
ArcherGifs
THERE ARE PEOPLE STARVING IN AFRICA HOW CAN YOU EVEN THINK TO BRING UP SUCH A PROBLEM!
NaughtButOne
Yes. These words exist for a reason and should not be subject to the whims of insanity.
PieluverCaolan
Not at all, I have met many people who are trans, and have a few people I already knew transition. Personally my only issue is those who 1/2
PieluverCaolan
think that not using their pronouns should be an enforceable/fine-able offence. This is a minority of a minority though so...MEH MEH MEHHHH!
HopefullyMadeYouThinkCritically
Thank you for recognizing outliers as such.
ZerginfestorHOTS
No, but hyper-socialist libtards need some excuse to make any fucking thing special and tell everyone else they're scum. :^)
theresgarlicinthatnebula
Good lord go back to facebook you emoji-using clown. "libtard", seriously?
MASSIVESPACEMONKEY
I'm happy to call anyone anything they want, it's not like it matters to me. I dont want it legislated to force me to do it though.
HopefullyMadeYouThinkCritically
That's not at all what (most) people want. Stop looking at the outliers.
MASSIVESPACEMONKEY
Did you actually ready anything i put? Unless you are saying that the majority don't want me to use their pronouns of choice?
HopefullyMadeYouThinkCritically
Most don't want it legislated.
MASSIVESPACEMONKEY
Did i say that they did sorry?
mebe21
When they actually definitively make a change, I can do it no problem. I know a few that change 3-5 times a year. I pick one and stick
woefullylucid
dasbounty
If it isn't that big of deal, according to you, why should either side care?
steponabich
In real life people don't care. People online get mad about people they've never met and know nothing about because they don't like the idea
AnalTelescope
No, but if I don't do it once in a while don't get fussy over it. It makes no sense
GrassfedChicken
I changed my name before coming out as trans at work. Name change was easy for people to remember but nobody can get it right.
Textuality
Most people are perfectly fine to use him/her for someone who's actually transitioning. It's the people wanting to use "bun", "zhe", etc.
PhailRaptor
Him-to-her or vice versa are not the problem, and to my knowledge, never have been
TheEightfoldPath
Imgur needs to circlejerk both ways. If you disagree with zir/xir zip zop zoobity bop then you apparently hate the sane ones as well..
HopefullyMadeYouThinkCritically
So if you disagree with calling people by what they prefer you don't necessarily disagree with calling people what they prefer?
TheEightfoldPath
There's a difference by degrees. Not a chance that I'll entertain a mentally confused transdwarf mutated deerwolfkin system.
HopefullyMadeYouThinkCritically
That's what people used to say about trans people too! Funny how we progress over time...
sobermoose
People are entitled to see it as a sin or mental illness. They comprehend, they don't approve. 1/2
sobermoose
If you only approach issues with a condescending tone that devalues another person's opinions then all you will ever achieve is argument 2/2
sobermoose
ps I don't see the LGBT movement as sinful or a jumble of mental illness. I believe those who do have the right to express their opinions.
IronMarla
I mean... there is such a thing as an opinion that is shitty and nasty for no reason. Plenty of people are neo-Nazis. They're allowed, but
IronMarla
their shitty opinions absolutely do not deserve respect. They're basically there so that people can learn how not to suck by example.
sobermoose
So you're saying one person's opinion should be valued higher simply because you align with it?
sobermoose
It's not that someone doesnt get it. They just see it as a sin or mental illness. And guess what; they're entitled to think that way.
afriendofmine
They are entitled to think what they want, they are not entitled to protection from public outrage over their fucking assbackward ideas.
sobermoose
If you attack someone physical for their ideals, you're the ass.
afriendofmine
who said to attack physically? I think they do not belong in a civilized society and that they should either adapt or move away.
sobermoose
So they should adopt your opinions or fuck off? How do you possibly see that as okay?
Freyja33
As a trans-woman: THANK YOU!
Dondarian
What're you talking about man?
Freyja33
What do you mean?
willfullyspooning
They're being an ass or they're joking.
HuntingButcher
I think he is asking which gender you are now
LeninaCrown
Geez this is dense.
Freyja33
Well if that guy's reading this, I'm a chick now (really kinda always on some level), but I was born with dude-parts
Anthraxwastaken
No, but hyper-conservatives need some strawman non-issue to be upset and condescending about
nihilityfarce
"UGH liberals need to stop talking about trans issues and just let us pass bills controlling their bathroom habits already, sheesh"
Kimozabi
OP talks about pronouns and cultural apropriation not laws. You really have no argument, huh?
PugLife2000
"But caring about other people distracts me from my golf game!"
LitteralyHitler
Nononono, he is defeating ISIS one stroke at a time.
ishkaga
Sadly there are more pronouns than him / her / they that some people insist be used for them. Which I will not.
theresgarlicinthatnebula
I mean the other pronouns were developed when people like you got triggered over the whole pleural-singular thing, so make up your damn mind
ilovebees
No, there aren't. There are a small fraction of tumblr users, most of which are under 18, decided on pronouns outside of those.
steponabich
My friend goes by "they/them" and it's not a big deal. They don't care if people mess up. I don't see what the problem is.
NegentropyX
Others use plurals (either you - Tu/Vous - in French, or they - du/Sie -in German) as a polite, formal pronoun. English had Thou/Thee.
flapperfemmefatale
Why? Why does it matter to you?
ishkaga
I'm not calling a person "ze". I'll use him, her, or they, that's it.
UmamiMama
I haven't heard about this
ishkaga
I'm not calling a person "ze". I'll use him, her, or they, that's it.
flapperfemmefatale
Why?
nihilityfarce
Have you ever actually met someone who goes by "ze"? I know quite a few people who prefer "they," but never "ze."
TF2215
Is it also a big issue if someone calls you her instead of him?
CreativeGimmick
Go through this chain. They come to an understanding at the end <3
barkthepolarbear
I don't generally care what you call me other than late to dinner
MoriartysTeaGirl
If you're trans... yes.
revcleo
It's a big issue if someone refuses to call you her instead of him. Mistakes happen, bullying is a big issue.
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whatupmyknitters
TIL his/her are 'actual scientific definitions'
TF2215
I never said that, but if thats your rebuttal nice work
Anthraxwastaken
Yeah, if you're going out of your way to do it, because you know it upsets them, it's bullying.
TF2215
Kinda going away from my point though. I'll do my best to call you whatever you want, but if I refer to someone what they biologically
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LassieCrumby
Yes. This. To be fair, I've only seen it online, but it drives me mad. Him/her is no issue
Hextant
As a trans person, I want to sob seeing these people. He / she / they. The only pronouns I really respect. Otherwise, I just won't talk to
Hextant
you, because clearly you have some stupid idea of how the world works and I won't be able to tolerate you anyway.
InternationalPhoneticAlphabet
have you ever met someone who did that?
antiartificial
It's going off in Canada: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiijS_9hPkM
chammycham
I have a coworker who prefers neutral pronouns (they) but never makes a big fuss either way. I often just use their name so I don't fuck up.
bridgebrain
Several, most non-confrontational and lovely people, but some people areassholes who happened to have odd outlets for their assholishness
steponabich
Have a friend who prefers to go by "they/them" and it's really not a big deal. People say the wrong thing all the time and they don't care.
sobermoose
I have lol
ImADoctorNotAnImgurian
I have. Bun hit me in the head with a book. Yes, bun. That's buns pronoun. (For about a week, then it became them or smth)
ImADoctorNotAnImgurian
Context: person was/is a lolita obsessed w bunnies, they were about 17? When they changed pronouns. Yes. A real life bun/buns/bunself.
TiannaTV
I have. I didn't know any better it was 7 years ago so not common, and I called someone dressed feminily "her" they stood up and yelled at
TiannaTV
Me that I was an insensitive bitch for not knowing they preferred to be called "they"and I should know better. It was the first I met them.
TiannaTV
And obviously, had they calmly corrected me different story, but they decided to literally cause a scene & curse me out. So I think it fits
GeneralWhisker
My sister just got reamed by some people for starting off an email with 'hey guys' as she was assuming/assigning gender.
RoutemasterFlash
That's ridiculous, because people use 'guys' for men and women all the time now. Maybe it was more the casualness of it?
Znayx
Do you mean "as if she was..."? Assuming that's what you meant, that's a pretty strong reaction. It was likely very innocent, no mysogyny.
RoutemasterFlash
As a grammar dick, I'd like to point out that it should be "as if she were..."
GeneralWhisker
The folks that got upset said that the salutation implicitly assigns gender. Idk if they distinguish btw "as" & "as if" (1/2)
InternationalPhoneticAlphabet
that's kinda different, though, and it should be easier to understand why some people don't like the "male as default" thing.
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lilchan16
And that is what this person is talking about. Why would people get offended by something silly as that
GeneralWhisker
I dunno if it makes it better or worse, but she was writing the email to ladies book group she is a part of. I think the reaction is too 1/
Znayx
I'm going to agree with the 90% of people responding here: It's the same as saying "dude" to any gender. I've been told that's totally fine.
Althekingsmen1
But language changes, is it default male if it also refers to women? I know I've used it to talk to a group of only women before