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Modern lady roadblocks nazi demonstrators
This image has been making the rounds of Swedish press (and apparently some international) for a few days now. Figured I'd share it here.
The first of may (workers day) about 300 bona fide Nazis went to the Swedish town of Borlänge to march and demonstrate god knows what. The local church opted to ring their bells extra to take a stand against the Nazis (personally I find this weak as shit as compared to the inspiration, the town Jönköping. When Nazis marched there, the church rang their bells for alarm (signaling danger) during the entire march).
Some lady thought 'fuck this shit' and placed herself firmly in the way of the Nazi scum and someone managed to snap a photo before she was removed by police.
Some people thinks this is going to become the new "handbag picture".
Ancient lady handbag nazi demonstrator
This photograph were taken in the town Växsjö in 1985. Then too Nazis marched the streets of Sweden. The lady did not want to be part of the public discussion and declined interviews, so not much is known about her motivations. Her mother was Polish and some sources claim she spent some time in a concentration camp during WW2.
Even though (maybe) condoning violence against political dissenters this photograph is now iconic in Sweden. For sure its powerful though.
Edit: Whoo frontpage! Don't send nudes. Send money. To Amnesty. Or Doctors Without Borders. Or don't. I'm just some guy I have no power over you.
sweetfeetpete
kmac64
`Everybody knows he was good at the beginning, but he just went too far.'' -- on Adolf Hitler, in a 1996 interview -- Marge Schott.
SmurfEggs
Looks like they're about to scream about hate then handout "The Watchtower"
stonedkyuby
Why do these nazis look like Mormons with beards?
chinesedentist
Say what you want about Nazi's, but they're always dressed to the neins.
Mfoman
Keep in mind that nazis still are humans and aslong as it's peaceful they have their rights too.
zaahatchetman
Each and every man under my command owes me one hundred Nazi scalps. And I want my scalps. - Lt. Aldo Raine
thelastsamarrae
Bouwnjowrnoh
watercolortitties
naht-zee
dootdootfloop
how hard is it to scalp someone with no hair tho ? you have to get your fingers way under it
NoYolo4Jesus
Send in...the bear jeeeeeeww!
Capitalism
Das bear jewden es ein gollum.
SirAwesomeTheThird
Did you know Adam Sandler was supposed to play the Bear Jew? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inglourious_Basterds#Casting
DennisReynoldsGoldenGod
Good thing Roth and Tarantino are friends
NoYolo4Jesus
Really? Kind of glad they didn't get him. That would've been weird...
onrivertime
What is it with tough guys and cargo pants?
CommanderWilliamTRiker
https://media.giphy.com/media/QedtxFX2Axu1i/giphy.gif
HippieViking
Fuck those guys! That pizza place in the background got pretty good pizza for when you're drunk..
red666111
*unpopular opinion puffin* everyone has the right to peaceably demonstrate, even Nazis. It was wrong for her to disrupt the demonstration.
lute408
I hate racism in general, but I also like the right to a peaceful protest regardless of who they are. Then again, hate group
preaction
That's the problem. Public demonstrations of ... peaceful... hate normalize the sentiments, empowering less-peaceful demonstrations...
preaction
Not saying they should be disallowed, I'm a staunch free speech advocate. Just saying there's a lot of fun nuance.
Mailfunk
As a German, please let our grandfathers souls rest in peace and find a new type of racism. Mr. Trump surely helps you.
LP19
reminds me of http://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/styles/story_large/public/thumbnails/image/2014/06/03/22/pg-31-tiananmen-6-ap.jpg
Shimitzu
There should be image of 2 buttons "nazi" or "allaku akbar" and sweating Swissball.
CBScott
Do all nazi's wear black cargo pants?
dungeonsandsnuggles
How else would they carry all their nazi gear?
Stackalee
Maybe, but not all people who wear black cargo pants are Nazis.
HoneyBadgerSC05
*tips fedora*
rossome11
Big reason there isa raise in the Nazi movement now is the influx of Muslims into Europe. Dont agree with any of it but looks a lot like ww2
debunker
Don't know why you're getting downvoted. It's true. And like you said, you don't agree .. which is good.
CatsIsTheAnswer
That and a shitty economy. I don't know about northern Europe but I am fairly preoccupied by my Italian countrymen
debunker
Preoccupied with what?
CatsIsTheAnswer
Growing popularity of right winged movements opposed only by a shortsighted establishment concerned only with selfpreservation
LittleDipster
We also have these shitheads in Finland. They even started an anti-immigrant street patrol group.
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kungfuskunk
Racism isn't a form of protection.
valdbagina69420
It is for the weak minded and fragile of society. There is nothing easier than hating the unfamiliar
crazyhoborabbitman
Soldiers of Odin? We have them here too.. They are not doing too well though, leaders are jumping ship and local branches are discontinued.
stonedkyuby
Come on, Nordic mythology? Why do nazis have to ruin all the cool shit?
LittleDipster
Same group. Originally founded by finnish neo-nazis. They say that they're not racists but that's obvious BS.
HippieViking
Yeah, the Swedish SOO claims they're not nazis, it's just the manifesto that the Finnish ones wrote that is.. yeah right..
Cyclopentadien
I'm visiting Tampere for a Judo tournament next week. I kinda hope they try to start shit with our heavy weighter of Algerian descent. :D
Mulon
Unfortunately he would get jumped by multiple people :C
Cyclopentadien
Fortunately he will be accompanied by multiple people :).
underlord2132
Handbag lady has a badass facial expression.
SirFormidio
The problem is not the Nazi's. It's that the Nazi's can rally people to their side. You must tear out the roots, not trim the leaves.
hoffbox
I want Handbag Lady to be a secret character in the next Mortal Kombat.
ekwalters
Walter White's hair is growing in nicely.
SeriousScrotum
kitten86er
I kinda read that as nein swastika. Like it was denying its own existence.
RedWingsofSteel
That would be "kein swastika".
SeriousScrotum
HamburgersExclamationPointTardigradeIsAlreadyTaken
As much as I hate it, in democracy everyone has the right to have to choose a political side and demonstrate. From far right to left.
debunker
In Canada, you can do/say anything you want. UNLESS, it infringes on someone else's human rights.
causality
The idea that you can infringe on someone's human rights just by saying something they dislike is a toxic and dangerous one.
debunker
Promoting hate and intolerance by spreading the message through speech is what's dangerous and toxic.
cocoakoumori
1.2 This has been a debate in Japan for a while who are considering bringing in hate speech laws. Hate speech is awful but freedom of speech
cocoakoumori
2.2 is something to be valued. But it's oppressive to those on the receiving end (particularly nationalized Koreans, Chinese..) Just an
cocoakoumori
3.2 interesting thing I thought I'd mention.
causality
The definition of "hate speech" quickly expands to mean anything that offends anyone.
Macksiiie
Or we use common logic and determine the difference between PC and Extremism. Are we not capable of varying degrees.
debunker
You conveniently missed the part when I spoke of infringing on human rights.
NiskanensBureaucrats
My problem is: either everyone has freedom of speech, or nobody does. Alt-Right uses the same arguments as the intersectional SJW BS..
sethgeck0
If you're using freedom of speech to limit freedom of speech for everyone else then maybe...
NiskanensBureaucrats
How? How would you do that? Unless you're talking "hurt feelings", how?
sethgeck0
If you're demonstrating in support of a totalitarian ideology then you obviously want some people to not have freedom of speech
NiskanensBureaucrats
But if you're conducting a legal protest, then you're fine. My impression is that SJW's are advocating for an authoritarian system..
NiskanensBureaucrats
Can I do the same to them? Their basis is Marxist, arguably as violent and oppressive as Naziism. If they have broken no laws..
NiskanensBureaucrats
Same data, different conclusion (advantages deserved, segregated spaces). It's bull, but pretending these guys are the "power" in Sweden..
NiskanensBureaucrats
Is just as bad. They are a symptom of issues ignored and PC'ed to death. Of a monoculture that tries to force an idealistic multicultural..
NiskanensBureaucrats
Model that ends in parallel societies. Fight their arguments, look at the whole situation, but don't forget their humanity.
NiskanensBureaucrats
Oh: and let the downvotes rain!!
idontknowwhatwereyellingabout
The new nazis look like they want to forcibly fill out that women's tax returns. But seriously, fuck nazis.
TheGingerBeardedBiologist
They'd probably do better than the current administrators because a lot of tax fraud has been revealed recently.
PaintedSlate
Except that first one looks more like a time-travelling Freud. Which is kind of ironic for a Nazi.
WellTimedFreeman
If evil were shows on faces, there wouldn't be mirrors.
Snarkoleptic
I mean they're not exactly the epitome of human perfection, these ones...
DeathRatt1e
nah, they want her to listen to their Metalcore Mixtape.
BananaBard
They look like they want to go door to door with some religious thing, but at the same time they look like they want to start a nerd fight
temujin9
They're trying to look respectable. Key word: trying.
TakeItToTheHouse
They even have their ties tucked in so they don't get caught in the fax machine!
cocoakoumori
*Telegraph
FedericoAstica
Or better yet, stop fucking Nazis and they won't reproduce anymore.
t3hbernardo
they aren't nazis, they're national socialists. the nazis existed in the 1940s.
IShavedMyBallsForThis
woman's*
swimbikerunrepeatswimbikerunrepeatswimbiwhatwasidoing
Especially Illinois Nazis
flippywizgig
Ah, beat me to it.
noyougofuckyourself
That's how Mormons dress in the U.S.
bittergiraffe
We must go deeper.
digitalsky
That's wut she said
chastfour
Guys Mormons are not Nazis
digitalsky
Not all Mormons are nazis, but all nazis are Mormon.
HermeneuticalQuandary
I saw an article about this today and the only comments were about how actually it is her that is the racist for her "black power salute"
TheStealthHippopotamus
yeah, I could see that. And again if the Nazis bothered to get a permit she's also the one that could be arrested.
Buran
It's nothing to do with black power and all to do with anti-fascism/racism.
PatrickPunchhard
It's a socialist thing. The Black Panther Party were socialists.
rusty6899
So were the nazis
PatrickPunchhard
Not really, no. The "socialist" part of National Socialism died with Gregor Strasser.
rusty6899
They accepted private property rights, but wanted a state-controlled economy to be run for the benefit of the people. (scare quotes ommited)
PatrickPunchhard
No, they didn't. They privatised quite a lot of stuff that had been nationalised by the Weimar Republic
PatrickPunchhard
The only thing they did even resembling left wing economics is deficit spending to stimulate the economy
Baconthief1994
About as socialist as the democratic republic of North Korea is a democratic republic
crazyhoborabbitman
Didn't even cross my mind. I suppose that's a cultural difference between Sweden/Europe and America: gestures don't necessary mean the same.
CowriderAlpha
Isn't the right fist up a gesture of the "lefties" ?
thehandsomedoctor
yeah, that's why it's weird that people associate it strictly with black power
crazyhoborabbitman
According to Wikipedia its signifies Communism, or "lefties" in Europe. We're going to have to wait for an interview to know her motivation.
HermeneuticalQuandary
no no, according to them, she was a black panther spreading black nationalism in front of some innocent guys trying to keep home swedish.
Akratus
Guardian interview: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/may/04/woman-defied-neo-nazis-sweden-tess-asplund-viral-photograph.
crazyhoborabbitman
I only looked for interviews in Swedish press, but who would answer there when the guardian calls :P
crazyhoborabbitman
I meant more specifically about the gesture. Is it a black power fist? A communist fist? Or simply a fist of defiance? No use in speculating
Stackalee
Idk why but I kinda expect Nazis to look tough, not like terrible Shaun of the Dead cosplay.
ISellLies
It's on random
StarrrryNight
Back in the day, yeah, these days they are just pathetic angsty hate filled little shits
cyno01
SizzleSphinx
It looks like the one guy has a chain wallet. If that's not tough then idk what is.
SomeWhiteKid
After browsing /pol/ for a while you realize the difference between Skinheads and Natsocs and these are just autistic skinheads 1/2
SomeWhiteKid
Skinheads are just a bunch of wimps while Nazis especially the dedicated ones are scary as fuck since they workout like fucking crazy. 2/2
debunker
People who get brainwashed by extremism, whether Nazi, KKK, ISIL, etc., are usually the weakest humans.
aSeaPerson
That's... That's not at all how brainwashing works...
debunker
Please enlighten me then. Tell me how extremist groups don't prey on the vulnerable to become members.
aSeaPerson
Vulnerable doesn't equal weakest, and smart people can chose to follow extremist ideologies.
aSeaPerson
Saying only weak or vulnerable people get brainwashed into cults or such trivializes the processes of indoctrination that groups develop.
debunker
You obviously have trouble with English and don't know what the word "usually" means.
Lobuttomize
It's a nice image and all but you shouldn't try to stop someones right to demonstrate
StarrrryNight
Even though if these people got power they would do exactly that. It's your duty to be intolerant of intolerance.
TheGingerBeardedBiologist
Everything this happens there's a shitstorm crazy and mad people. "The police should only allow demonstrations I approve of hurr derr"
CitizenDickbag
I'm totally fine w/ Germany banning Nazi demonstrations.
GummyBearsHellYeah
When exactly did that happen?
CatsIsTheAnswer
I'm not. Don't give a shit about nazis' political rights, but attempts to establish historical truths by public force are counterproductive
CitizenDickbag
I think when your history includes a political group murdering millions of people and starting a world war, banning that group is A-OK.
CatsIsTheAnswer
I think vocal social responses are much more effective: a ban will easily become fuel for conspiracy holocaust denial theories
Potaterzpotateyo
So because we don't like their message they don't get to talk? As long as they follow the rules they get to have their chance to speak.
CitizenDickbag
I think when your history includes a political group murdering millions of people and starting a world war, banning that group is A-OK.
stonedkyuby
We need to let them speak. That way, they cannot play the victim card or feign martyrdom. It also educates people on their wrongs.
Potaterzpotateyo
They get their chance, just like everyone else. Either the rule applies to/for all or it's not a rule.
Potaterzpotateyo
Their history will speak for them, as we can clearly see in all of the derision they receive and the counterprotests.
StarrrryNight
And once they're in power they remove everyone elses chance to speak. So... ?
Potaterzpotateyo
You really think they're going to be in power? That, right now, they're gaining a foothold and undermining our government?
StarrrryNight
History teaches us that it's possible. I prefer to learn from history.
PatrickPunchhard
She's demonstrating too
HamburgersExclamationPointTardigradeIsAlreadyTaken
Actually, she is preventing political opponents from demonstrating, which is a tinny bit dictatorish
PatrickPunchhard
No, it isn't. The right to demonstrate means the government won't stop you, not that other people won't protest your protest
HamburgersExclamationPointTardigradeIsAlreadyTaken
Actually, it kind of does when it says you cannot interfere with other people's political liberties.
StarrrryNight
Which is all very lofty, then these people get in to power and they don't have the same ideals. Protesting is banned because you didn't
PatrickPunchhard
Counter protests are absolutely legal unless you use physical force, like for example the NRM in Sweden do.
StarrrryNight
confront them when you had the chance.
WorldsSmallestMegaDick
But does she have a permit?
PatrickPunchhard
She was a part of a counter protest so I guess
bobslydell
In Finland the counter protesters rarely apply for the permit
wenturi
As a Swede, I say, screw nazism!. But our totalitarian political system is even worse, which is one of the the reasons behind today's racism
CitizenDickbag
You think your current system is *worse* than Nazism? That's patently absurd.
wenturi
Is it? No one is allowed to say anything if its not according the totalitarian standards.
sethgeck0
So is SD not allowed to have their racist beliefs? Are they banned from Parliament?
bobslydell
Seems to me the others have really tried to ban them
CitizenDickbag
That is a pretty idiotic statement, and betrays a stunning lack of understanding of Nazism.
wenturi
My point. Those guys in pic havent done anything nazzis have, and still you call them nazzis. Double standards.
cocoakoumori
Not at all. Here, at least, they don't do those things because it's illegal but they /want/ to. They want the political power to do so.
CatsIsTheAnswer
Does present "not being allowed" mean "beaten to death or deported in concentration camp"? In that case you're absolutely right, otherwise..
wenturi
So you are saying that these people in pic above have reported people to concentration camps?
CatsIsTheAnswer
Really? They call themselves nazi so I treat them as such. Moreover, you started to compare present political system to nazism.