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Not OC, got this off my facebook feed
Apr 2, 2016 8:06 PM
GrumpyMarley
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Not OC, got this off my facebook feed
Edutittam
I'll teach my kid car safety too. When they're old enough to operate one.
Sagufu
Never leave a fire arm out in the open, always put it in a safe. ESPECIALLY if there are kids around.
NationalistCanadianMooseWarrior
... A kid doesn't have to know how to load a gun or anything else to know not to touch guns.
lemonfluff
Kids are naturally curious. The best option is just don't have a gun, especially with kids.
Godblessamurica
In New Zealand its actually against the law to have a gun sitting out and it must be kept in a secure lock box at all times when not in use.
FloydAgustis
I just passed my PAL today. There is a proper way to handle and operate a fire arm. Educate yourself, and those around you.
Step1GoIncognito
Walkin closet... make me think of. https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/ae/e4/b8/aee4b81ee03bbbe0628f5f589fc0617a.jpg
flatdeer
How could I have never seen that before? +1
prose11396
I'm not against people having guns. But if you do, you owe it to yourselves, your kids, and others to teach your kids that guns aren't toys.
prose11396
Like this guy. Good job, dude who taught your kid that guns aren't for playing. +1 for good dad skills.
TheWheelIsSpinningButTheMouseIsDead
Kids did good, but if OP doesn't start asking his friends about if they keep guns accessible before letting kids play, he's dumb as shit...
qvconthetivo
I mean, you could just not have so many guns, but you do you America
QuiteADapperAsshole
Good on this man for teaching his child gun safety, but you have to expect some backlash with posting a context-free "kid with gun" pic.
Satansyoungersister
He's a cute little smart boy. I'm glad he was actually taught not to touch and what it is not just told no.
duketor
Have a seat right over there
Satansyoungersister
Fuck you, chris!
Aelinsaar
Shit that never happened for 500 Alex
ratfaceddog
It's funny that obvious propaganda involves an unsecured firearm in a room with unattended children.
holgerdk
And in another house, "Last night my son, daughter and another boy were at someones house".
MrHailstone
Great logic. I dont have to teach my kids about gun safety because there arent any fucking guns around them.
LennyKoggins
By that logic, never teach your kids how to swim because they'll never, ever be near a pool.
pikebot
This sounds a lot more like a cautionary tale about not having guns in the house with small children.
esgedi
Not having guns IN THE HOUSE if you have kids? That's a bit extreme. There aren't many 6 year old safecrackers.
manboy
You missed the point of what he was saying
CorneliusCornwall
1. A gun is always loaded, never assume that it is not. 2. Never point a gun at anyone or anything you do not intend to destroy. 3. Always
ToastDNA
Just like sex ed. Learn from peers and porn or learn from people who know the safe way.
Sabyla
I agree op. I had a friend who had no gun knowledge, play with a gun at a friend's house and shot his friend in the head killing him.
canonlyturnright
In a closet? Are you for fucking real? Pathetic firearms security and shud never get to relying on a child.
neonfraction
All I got from this is that this moron keeps guns lying around.
TheWheelIsSpinningButTheMouseIsDead
And everything else about this story is worthless unless you recognized that part. Kids did good though, but shouldn't have to.
nananashisan
Let me yell ya, an 8 year old scolded me after I shot my foot (intentionally) with his springer airsoft gun. I realized I was fkkn retarded.
fjordmonster
What kind of idiot leaves kids alone with a rifle?
zerocoolisgod
That was natural selection being interrupted.
BlazeMarshall
I dunno, but I get the feeling the guy in the story had words with whoever's house they were at.
arcadia2000
My father hunted. We knew where his guns were, where his cartridges were, and to never bother them. And sometimes we were alone. Education.
ProblyNotTheOne
Well, it certainly isn't anti-gun people...
SamMan
The sort of idiot that writes smug facebook posts about it.
TysonGoesOutside
In rural areas it's common to leave guns handy for pest/predator control. It often results in kids being exposed to guns at a young age.
emotionallydevoid
There are ways to keep the gun away from the kids though. We have ours in the closet and up on the wall for now. Unless the 18m old can 1/2
TysonGoesOutside
I agree with you. But you can't protect your kids from other people's stupidity or absent mindedness.
emotionallydevoid
carry a 5ft ladder from the garage and up the stairs, we should be fine. 2/2
LeumisRichardson
Far far too many of them. I cringe when I hear of other gun owners who have had -unlocked- firearms stolen (or "borrowed") from them.
Insomnia297
Y'all see that raid on a gun store in (TX? OK?)
LeumisRichardson
I'm not sure what you are getting at.
SkyePyro
Video game designers almost always introduce new mechanics and enemies in a controlled environment before throwing you to the wolves.
SkyePyro
There is a REASON for this, and it's the same concept, and it actually matters much MORE in real life where there are no extra lives.
CountMeInFellas
I will never understand the gun thing. I'm 40 and have never seen a gun in my life, nor have anyone else I know.
blimpmode
Considering you've never even seen one, I think it's expected that you don't understand it.
CountMeInFellas
perhaps you're right.. as an Australian you'd think I would have a few, I did just remove a giant lizard from my yard with my bare hands.
Flyndaran
I'm American and have fired a few as a kid. I don't like loud noises and don't care about explosions. I'm a poor American. :(
HamboneHFY
I mean... as a Brit, I sort of want to own one for sport shooting purposes. It seems like fun. But holy shit I'd practice good gun safety.
AndIThinkToMyselfWhatAWonderfulWorld
Good luck getting a license, Cameron's government seems to want nobody owning any guns in the UK, even if they're a bloody Olympic shooter!
HamboneHFY
oh, I'm resigned to never owning one. I just think it'd be nice...
MARPATdroid
This is why you teach your kids about the dangers of life, so they know what to do when they encounter them. I own guns and offer to (1/2)
MARPATdroid
teach people about them including children of parents I know. Safety is taught, and the teaching needs to start before an incident (2/2)
nudistpriest
Having a "real gun" leaning against a wall in a room with three kids is beyond dangerous. /puffin
GhostofCain
But how will they otherwise LEARN?
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nudistpriest
That this guy is a self-righteous moron?
ZachPutland
They're at a friend's house where the gun-owner-OP's kid lives. I'm positive he doesn't support the behavior but his kid reacted properly
ratfaceddog
Seems obvious enough, but there are some stupid people in the world.
cloudtreader
Thats fine in all but the picture obviously has nothing to do with safety or teaching it and more about "guns are awesome son!"
thedewsta
They are awesome
blimpmode
How could you possibly tell that from this photo? I mean, seriously?
SamaelTheVenomOfGod
I am not pro-gun, but I am absolutely pro-gun education.
plzwhateverisokforme
You don't need gun education if you live in a place where you will never see/touch one.
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giveittomestraightlikeapearcidermadefrom100percentpears
No they're not.. And i'd say i have the same idea. I'm British and i like that we have very very tight gun control. But it still annoys the>
giveittomestraightlikeapearcidermadefrom100percentpears
fuck out of me when you hear about people being shot with an "unloaded firearm". And on my house i have strong locks, and strong windows.
SamaelTheVenomOfGod
Teaching children recognition and proper handling of a firearm is absolutely something that can be restricted to classes. 1/2
SamaelTheVenomOfGod
I don't need to have my children sounded by guns every day for them to understand how to respect them.
alliephotoshopsthings
You don't need to grow up in a house with guns to be taught to never touch a gun and always treat every gun like it's loaded.
dogenuggets
If you have no guns in the house then the kids can't pick them up and they still think they're scary because of TV & films.
TheDuke0fHazzard
It alleviates the mystery. Kids do things because theyre curious. If they know guns and theyre used to them, they're not as curious about em
Antennaehead
They might also be tempted to show off.
CthulhusGreasyBallsack
I was taught properly at a young age, the only time I touched a gun that I was not supposed to was when (1/2)
CthulhusGreasyBallsack
I thought it was one of my toys, and I dropped it immediately when I felt the weight of it
Samwabam
Guns like they're loaded but if they've never seen one or know nothing about them, curiosity will take over.
Samwabam
Its true. Stats have shown that if children are taught proper gun behaviour they won't be as curious. You can tell a child to treat all 1/2
MixMasterMike
That's why I let my kids use meth and prostitutes. Takes away the mystery and makes them not as curious....
MoonFaceinc
I want to see statistics that say that children who grow up in gun free households are more likely to be killed by guns before I accept(1/2)
MoonFaceinc
your argument. Otherwise it is a nonsense.
TheDuke0fHazzard
And I'm sure a kid growing up in a car free household has a lower chance of dying in a car crash
MoonFaceinc
I'm sure they do. That in no way invalidates my argument.
accipiter
Kids should also be taught not to touch heroin or meth. Should they be shown real drugs to teach them not to touch them? Photos work better.
alliephotoshopsthings
Sure, but it doesn't negate my point. Gun owners arent the only ones to teach their children not to touch guns & always treat them as loaded
IronMarla
I take some issue with that. They don't need to be the only ones, but they very often are.
Mr107
The other guy has a point. The kids who are taught and experience what guns can do end up listening more.
TheDuke0fHazzard
Of course, but it's a different method of teaching. If you tell a kid "Don't play with guns you find," they will to see what's so taboo 1/2
TheDuke0fHazzard
If you show a kid a gun, let them hold it, use it, they're usually not as interested in playing around and finding out how found guns work
TheWheelIsSpinningButTheMouseIsDead
Agreed, but after that, you lock it away safely. I have guns and kids, they are always locked away though. The guns, not the kids :-)
Sherissipoo
As a Canadian... I will never understand the pro-gun arguments.
WWisLife
Nope. You never will.
ahbiteme
Ditto from an Australian. And I even used to shoot rifles for sport. I was good at it too. I just don't get the need to have them 24/7.
FredNoodleRunner
It's a Pandora's box. Once you let people have them it's gonna be quite difficult taking them away if people are being stubborn.
YouSufferWithCognitiveDissonance
As a Canadian I will never understand the unlawful prohibition of owning property
TheFoxCouncil
You can't own a nuclear bomb either. Some property is considered to dangerous for the general public.
YouSufferWithCognitiveDissonance
Then how is the govt allowed to own them? Seeing how govts have murdered more people than any other entity ever.
InqSerena
me neither..
wolf123450
Anti-gun doesn't make sense. Banning guns for all because some abuse them? Banning fast food would save more lives, and be equally unjust.
ahbiteme
Lots of things are banned or restricted to minimise harm, e.g. medications, chemicals, grades of weapons. Should they be unrestricted too?
LennyKoggins
What's there to not understand? I'll be happy to answer any questions.
lemonfluff
It is unessecary dangerous even with guns safety. What's the point in having a weapon that can kill someone around your house? The only /2
LennyKoggins
Oh c'mon downvote fairies, I realize it's a controversial topic but I'm genuinely trying to start a discussion here.
lemonfluff
Reason I can think of is "everyone else has one so I need one to defend myself from their guns". Which would be solved be banning guns.
LennyKoggins
If we figured out a way to destroy ALL GUNS and ALL MEANS OF PRODUCING GUNS, I'd be ok with that. Until that happens, I'm keeping mine.
berq
But the government will always have guns, and Americans have never trusted government. The problem is our decreasing respect for human life.
esgedi
The #1 cause of gun related death is suicide. Banning guns wouldn't solve a majority of gun related deaths.
lemonfluff
It would prevent a lot of impulse suicides.
THATSTHESHITIDOLIKE
Why do you think owning a gun is necessary?
LennyKoggins
Not easy to answer in 140 characters. In short: not really "necessary" per se, I mostly have my guns as a hobby. In some cases: self-defense
LennyKoggins
I jumped thru the hopes, did the bg check, got fringerprinted, and now I have a CPL. I hope I never have to use my gun in self defense.
TheWheelIsSpinningButTheMouseIsDead
OK, good. But do you keep it locked away or with a trigger guard at least? Because "access to gun before gun safety" is a dangerous trend...
THATSTHESHITIDOLIKE
But do you not agree that if guns were illegal you would not need a gun to protect yourself.
esgedi
They're fun to operate, they're a cheap sport to get into, and they're no more dangerous than a claw hammer.
LennyKoggins
I would argue with "cheap", though :)
ahbiteme
As a sport shooter, totally agree. But I don't think we're necessarily talking about sport shooting here.
Melondwarf
Or you could do what other countries do, mandatory gunsafes so that the kids CAN'T get to them
mritty
right, because idiots always follow un-enforceable laws.
YouWasted10SecondsOfYourLifeReadingThisLol
Or you could not be fuckwits that think that they are so important that everyone wants to attack them and must have a gun as 'protection'
Rc58
In general I agree, but he never said that he didn't have a safe. He was irresponsible all around
DoubleUJayIsHere
Yeah because "education isn't the key, pretending like something doesn't exist" ALWAYS works out...
Melondwarf
you can have both you know
Djalabajoe
Scottish police checked my friends guns,he was away, his wife opened the cabinet,they confiscated the guns because she shouldn't have access
raidleadergutts
Wow. What absolute pieces of shit.
lemonfluff
Why? She's probably not trained or liscence do to use them. So she absolutely shouldn't have access.
raidleadergutts
But did they no trick her into accessing them? Which makes them assholes. They created crime where there were none.
MasterOfKarats
Why shouldn't she have access?
oOMagicalBlobOo
Don't know how it works, but I'll bet he was the only one licensed to use them and therefore only he should have access?
iravendarknessi
The gun SAFES are not the important part. The gun SAFETY is the important part. As in mandatory gun safety courses before gun purchase. 1/2
lemonfluff
Well I think anyone not trained I gun safety shouldn't have access to the guns, including kids, friends, other halves etc. So a safe would/2
iravendarknessi
But I also think that once people take a gun safety course, they are more likely to also invest in a gun safe/keep guns away from kids. 2/2
lemonfluff
Also be good.
Durgrumm
Well yeah, because everyone does what they are supposed to and never deviate or not do it.
AndIThinkToMyselfWhatAWonderfulWorld
So by that logic there should be no laws against murder and criminal theft, because those things happen in society? Smh
assuh9
Exactly I don't worry about my kids getting ahold of my guns it's what they do at other peoples houses who may not follow these rules
jsktrogdor
"People dont always follow it" is the most asinine justification ever invented for why we shouldnt have a law.
Durgrumm
I wasn't justifying why we shouldn't have it. I think it's a great idea. But no matter what and where there will be people who don't.
jsktrogdor
Yes you were. That line is a thing that people repeat all the time for why we shouldnt have better gun control.
Melondwarf
atleast then there can be legal issues if you don't do it
Durgrumm
Come up with a system that tells you whenever someone doesn't put the gun in the gun safe and I will be on board 100%
lemonfluff
Well mandotory checks, gun safety courses etc would be a good start. If people (kids, friends, SOs) haven't done these and uses the guns/2
lemonfluff
Then the guns and liscence could be revoked. That way you know everyone with a gun is certified and trained.
LeumisRichardson
Even if zero enforcement, just having a requirement would end up with more firearms being secured than currently. And that's a good thing.
Durgrumm
But to me, the people that would follow it are already doing it. I'm not saying he had a bad idea, I'm playing devil's advocate.
blimpmode
Such a law would require 1.) registration, and 2.) inspection of private homes, things I hope will *never* happen in the US.
germanturkey
Happens in some counties in NY already.
GrandHunterMan
Well, Canada has that and there aren't any mandatory inspections. There used to be a registry for rifles but we did away with that,
lemonfluff
Why not? It seems like a good idea of it makes the streets safer.
Groznek
I don't particularly understand what's so terrible about registration?
raidleadergutts
Because gun control has been used to hunt down dissidents in history ever since gun control was invented.
TheFoxCouncil
By very few societies. In the vast majority of them (such as Australia and the UK) it's used to reduce violent crime.
raidleadergutts
Few though they may be, the resulting one sided slaughters were astronomical. People are downvoting me because like most people who lived 1
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in oppressive regimes before they became oppressive, they believe that "It won't happen here". Maybe it won't, but then again maybe it will.
CivilizedUndead
Devil's advocate: anti-gunners probably don't own guns, so :/
LegendsOfRevenge
No fucking shit
glyphez
What if your child goes over to a friends house where there is a gun?
cakeflourz
The principle is solid, though. It's better to expose and explain the dangers of the world than to hide and pretend they don't exist.
Flyndaran
No one is anti-gun. That's a nonsensical strawman. Many want more restrictions on gun ownership and harsher punishments for law breakers.
Lambdafish1
A gun is just a tool, like a hammer or a knife. What we want is to prevent misuse
Flyndaran
Mainly by requiring education of use and keeping them away from those unable or unwilling to use properly.
thekcar
Problem: kids unfamiliar with guns find one, have no clue what they're doing, and screw off doing dumbsh*t maneuvers, often dangerously.
myusernamewillalwaysberelevant
You'd be surprised. The "some for we, none for thee" crowd is pretty common around my hometown in CT
EconomyWarf
I am highly skeptical that is the majority of people. Even so they probably just want better restrictions on guns.
xRocketman52x
Hell, it's not uncommon for anti-gun politicians to carry for their safety, I think
TomJohn19
Depends on the towns I think. Living in the boonies up here in the Ellington/Stafford region you hear gunshots ringing out fairly often. 1/2
TomJohn19
being vocally anti-guns tends to get the "aww...bless your heart" sorta treatment.
tidestail
Rather funny that Ellington's so vocal, and then there's Willington huffing and puffing right next door.
Atlas008
What happens when their kids play at a gun owners house?
HighrockTendales
Their grades suffer
EccentricNimoy
Be grown up and discuss the issue with said gun owner.
sicsided
You can be anti gun and still know about guns and how to be around/with them.
CivilizedUndead
Do the parents have health insurance?
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CivilizedUndead
I didn't wanna to get morbid. Anyway,here is a picture of a dead guy https://simonclark3.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/shakespeare_william.jpg
RubberCatTurds
And I'd still prefer to teach a 5 year old to not touch any gun that even might be real. "Oh, look! This one is fake!" Bang! OOOPS!!!
ProblyNotTheOne
Exactly.. Except I go the extra step and don't give kids fake guns either, just like I don't give them fake knives or fake drugs.
archekins
*thumbs up*
archekins
I was always taught to treat toy guns as real every time. Even a toy can cause significant harm.
MnemonicMonkeys
Depends. Nerf guns are pretty safe. Airsoft and BB are not
archekins
Unless I'm in a nerf, or airsoft game, the gun deserves the same respect. Nobody lies a surprise suction cup dart to the face.
LeumisRichardson
Problem is you can't control what othes do. Like teaching kids about matches, in America esp', kids need to know what not to do with guns.
ProblyNotTheOne
You don't have to let a kid play with matches OR guns to teach them not to play with matches or guns. What kind of logic is that even??
LeumisRichardson
I said nothing about letting kids "play" with them. Being able to recognize a real gun from a toy or replica however is a useful skill.
ProblyNotTheOne
Only if you're the kind of sicko who lets their kid have and play with toy-killing-weapons and play-pretend KILL other children. I don't.
LeumisRichardson
Not sure if you are actually presenting your views or are a deliberate troll...
ProblyNotTheOne
My child will grow up knowing exactly how reprehensible guns are, and would not think that playing murder with a fake gun is something "fun"
EvilBrainAngelHeart
This is a fantastic idea if your child has difficulty separating fantasy from reality. For well-adjusted children, balance can be best.
fauxglove
So when your kid visits his friend's house and the retarded father keeps a loaded colt in an unlocked cabinet...?
ProblyNotTheOne
My kid will know not to touch it because I taught him not to touch any weapon of any kind. He'd grow up without those sick toy guns too.
fauxglove
You're fighting a battle against a child's curiosity there. It's not a fight most parents win. If that's your path, I wish you best of luck.
ProblyNotTheOne
You make no sense and you are a danger to children. I really hope you don't have any. Or that if you do, they are taken from you by CPS...
fauxglove
I say that children are innately curious and should be taught why things are dangerous, and that's the reply? As I said, good luck.