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TheyCallMeMrPigeonCuzImJustSoCoo
"How nice of you to say. But you of all people should know... there's plenty wrong with me."
DormammuLordOfTheDarkDimension
Jared Leto, the Fuckboy
quadralol
Leto just looks like Marilyn Manson circa 2003.
Jonsse
"The Juggalo"
gageendal
Jared Leto's performance was more of a Thug to me. Wasn't a fan.
LapisScarab
Leto was basically a mix of Ledger and Nicholson but if neither of those actors understood how the Joker worked.
NaamMeinKyaRakhaHai
I believe Jack Nicholson was better than Heath Ledger.
MissingLia
Jared Leto, the Hot Topic salesman
Schmaron
Yes! Batman Animated Series was the best!
hzltorio
Markuseous
The anarchist all the way!! Best joker IMO.
YesIamTheDevilButIDontExistSoDontListenToMeBesidesIamNotADoctor
those adjectives belong to all jokers...
yourbassist
Since Leto's Joker was never fleshed out, it's hard to say, but it seemed like they were going for some of the gangster elements too.
DaddysHome
agreed. also, joker has always had a gangster element in him
DarthXerxiis
Shouldn't he be called "The Pimp" rather than "The Psychopath".
HonestCatContentReviews
I often wonder if the world would be so wet-tongued about Ledger's Joker if he hadn't died. Good, but I don't like the film overall
Hannya
Yes... Mark Hamill's a great Joker voice. But not the best to cast for the role live action.
NinjaTroii
Mark hamill played a joker like character in the flash series. It's on Netflix (great show) and he even makes a subtle Star Wars reference.
OrgasmicOreos448
Heath Ledger still played a damn good joker though a lot better the Leto that's for damn sure
how so? they're different. ledger was no more joker than leto, cause ledger was no comicbook joker
corvandus
Jared Leto's Joker is just the word "swag" that time-travelled five years forward, listened to Lil Wayne, did meth and dyed its hair green.
piraterobotninjacowboy
Shut up already with this crap... jeez.
DownvoteOrDie
You forgot the OG Joker
FutureHylian
DC movies dont really do their villains to well. Luthor was the Joker, and The Joker was a... Really excited kingpin
WaitIsntBukkakeARestaurant
RIP Heath Ledger
man it would be so cool to have him as a cameo in dark knight rises
yelyah13
I loved all of them.. but super obsessed with Mark Hamill joker.. if I could marry him I would
jimcake
I'd love it if Mark Hamill was slimmed with CG (a la Captain America) and did a live version. Don't think it's in the cards, though.
i dunno.. i dont kinda feel like he has the face for it either
I'd have definitely said the same about any of the men in OP's image. Actually the most about Ledger and I think he was the best of the four
by all means, i totally agree. but i still think leto has got a chance. but joker is not one thing.
alittletime
Fun fact: in the original comics, when batman asks the identity of the joker, it turns out there are three jokers, respecting the three (1/)
Ages of the comic book eras: the gold, the silver, an the bronze eras. Some believe the live action movies pay respect to that storyline.
BuzzKiIlington
Leto's joker takes on a very "boss" like persona. Aside from all of the club dealings (which I'm still iffy on), the new joker likes 1/?
....to be very dominant. He wants to be in control of the situation and the people around him, and he makes sure they acknowledge his 2/
....position as the alpha of the group (I.e. guard kissing the ring, making Harley swear her life to him, ect). 3/3
agreed, but isnt that how the joker rolls though
Corki
sound like trump yet?
HotShinglesInYourArea
Can't argue with Hamil being the best, but on-screen best is Ledger by far, IMO.
wutangbarrett
I'm pretty sure 95% of people think this lol
7heGunslinger
*fist bump
tobygee
I concur
Not really a fan of Ledger's Joker. He's great at his own thing, but I always preferred the Joker "doing things because it's funny".
kansas555
My favorite has always been Nicholson.
SwaghettiYologneseWithMemeballs
Ledger comes third on my list.
SkellingtonBones
Ehh, at first I enjoyed his interpretation of it but over the years I've found Ledger's role to be stale. It isn't timeless like others'.
I kind of feel that a bit, but I think it's just that I've seen it waaay more than the others
dothesnozberriestastelikesnozberries
Hear this a lot about Hamil, having not seen his portrayal how can he be the best given he's voice only, all due respect. Its a half job no?
parabolic000
Watch him as the Trickster in Flash. He can pull the whole thing off.
zPapa
Yea I don't get the circlejerk over him too
FBIhere
2 be the iconic laugh, or it could be his general cadence, but Hamill's portrayal is just what they think of, no matter the context.
It's not really a circlejerk, so much as, when people think of the Joker, in any context, they think of Hamill's portrayal. It may just 1/2
Oakshand
Theres an Episode in The Flash tv show where he plays the trickster. Its literally just the joker. Seriously go watch that. Hamil is best.
I'll do some digging, thank you
TheAdventuresofStealy
Not exactly. The voice he does is tremendous and requires serious skill. It's not like he's using his own voice. He also did the Joker (1/2)
thisguy79
It's not like the others used their normal speaking voice. They all changed to create the character.
voice for most of the Arkham games if you've played them. (2/2)
Oh yeah I've played! he does a great job in them. But im just feeling the others have voice, expression, mannerism etc to do. Ledger for me
The problem is that the image, and the people who state it, are talking about how the Joker is delivered in the final product, not the 1/2
Oh yeah Ledger is still definitely my favorite Joker but Hamill as Joker in the animated series and some Arkham games is absolutely iconic.
4 Joker overall.
3 hands down, but because the voice Hamill lends blends so perfectly with the rest of the work the animators do, it just works as a better
2 measurement of the work of a single actor. If we're measuring how far an actor has gone into portraying the Joker, then yeah, Ledger,
RegalJen
To everyone sitting on leto. I for one found it to be very entertaining, and I don't care if I'm down voted for it.
Ryutohara
Leto sucks massive horse cock
how in-depth of you. please keep on ranting
Leto was amazing, he was a new take, just like ledger was in his time. he was no comicbook joker either.
misslavada
Since no one else is saying it...I would GLADLY sit on Leto, if you know what I mean! Also, I liked his Joker in Suicide Squad.
i can honestly see people growing on leto. at first he was HATED by, like EVERYONE. and now i see more andmore warming up to him. thats good
profanelogic
I agree. I need more for a full assessment. He was genuinely creepy though. I'll give him that.
Eldibs
Joker was superfluous in Suicide Squad. So was Harley. Deadshot was the main character.
CanadianThemedName
I mean, to be fair even in the comics, Deadshot was the main character as leader.
ThisIsSteel
Nothing like telling us you don't care to convince us that you actually don't care.
SomethingSomethingThisGuy
Hes a highly underrated actor, and brought the comics into his Joker, every J has to be different. He thought it to be an insult to channel.
Ledgers or others' Jokers.
thank you. comparing is useless, and wrong. ledger was good, but sorry, we was no comic book joker like hamill. dont get the hate on leto
slasher88bravo
I liked Leto's work as the joker. I thought it fit the tone of the other characters.
Kacesofaceis
Didn't see enough of him to judge quite honestly
madeofspam
This. I don't hate on the movie like a lot people seem to do. Quite enjoyed it. Not enough Joker to be really feel his take on the Joker.
WalterSobchaksWorldOfPain
Why are people sitting on him?
KanzenChowa
I really didnt like his laugh. That was like 50% of it
well he did only laugh like 3 times. maybe it'll improve
SeitanTaisei
I agree with you.
Wolfyboy
Heath was slated for not being jack. Leto was slated for not being heath. His acting, his character were fucking amazing.
indeed. i will guarantee you that the next joker will be compared to letos, and it will be this all over again. "omg he's no leto
TheCockSlinger
Loved Letos Joker. He was crazy. I hope we get the deleted scenes on blu ray
do you know if we'll get an ultimate cut, like with BvS?
David Ayer said that this was the director's cut but I don't believe him. I hope we get one though
EducatedKitten
For me, it's all about the "Joker effect": the sense of uneasiness, if not borderline dread, when the character says or does anything (1/4)
on screen. When someone portrays the Joker, I expect them to essentially terrify me, because that's what the Joker is for me. He's a (2/4)
symbol of terror so ingrained in human psyche that he makes me feel scared to be around him. Leto....didn't do that, for me. He (3/4)
came across like a watered-down imitation of Ledger, without that element of fear, which took away from the character for me. (4/4)
FishLords
I feel like Leto could be a fine joker, if given the opportunity.
maybe he'll get there, he had little screen time to really determine him yet
Well, and I feel like whoever wrote his script never read the comics. I don't mind a different take on the joker, as long as it's still him.
i see your point, but that being said, your argument could also be used on ledgers joker then.
Good point, good point.
MegaDeuce
His acting wasn't the problem, it was the direction and the whole approach to the character.
can i ask why? because he's not comicbook joker? neither was ledger
The Joker needs to have a sort of overarching sense of humor about everything. This guy was too serious. Not the real Joker.
i'm sorry, but so was ledgers. yes he also had humor but very serious. leto might be like that, we havent seen enough
I've seen enough of Leto ;)
rxse7en
I liked the movie—doesn't deserve 26% on RT. But, I always felt like Leto was trying too hard. Ledger really sold me on his Joker.
i respectfully disagree. i felt leto was good as a joker. comparing is useless cos theyre different and ledger was no more joker than leto
The movie definitely doesn't deserve that score, it's weird. But Leto's Joker was dreadful imo, it just wasn't the Joker.
obizues
I would disagree. The movie as a whole was completely broken by the editing alone.
paulthebipolarbear
ledger hd a very interesting take on the joker that really hard to beat
Didn't love it at first. Now I really appreciate his mannerisms, look and delivery. Leto came off as a poor imitation. Did like HQ though.
I see your point about leto joker maybe he should have played it more like the joker from the animated series but too late for that
The whole movie was trying too hard.
Story was decent. Execution was bizarre.
Agreed. Just trying so hard to be "edgy" and cool, and grab some of that Deadpool money.
hibsta
Leto wasn't a psychopath, he was a snore fest. All he did as the Joker was put the theater to sleep
you people fetishize ledger way to much. yes he was amazing, but leto nailed it. ledger would never fit in in this universe
HappyShark
Imo they didn't give him alot of time to be fair. I liked the part where he shot the guy in the club
Mobileuserwholikestoberandom
Spoilers! What's even the point of watching the movie now?!
The majority of people actually like Leto's Joker.
canigetacorgiplease
I actually really liked him!
Rickeno
... in the Theater I was in, everyone loved it.
kunaiwithchain
I literally fell asleep during the movie. My friend fell asleep twice. An actual snorefest
personal opinion. I saw this movie as the perfect
comic book movie.
DontL0seYourWay
Really? If you don't mind could you explain why. I'm genuinely curious because I sincerely want to know what perfection anyone saw in it.
well, It was entertaining, and captured the characters fairly well. it felt like the comic, and that's why it appeals to people.
Welp I honestly went into the movie not expecting much. Action was meh, characters were meh. It just didn't interest me much
TheyCallMeMrPigeonCuzImJustSoCoo
"How nice of you to say. But you of all people should know... there's plenty wrong with me."
DormammuLordOfTheDarkDimension
Jared Leto, the Fuckboy
quadralol
Leto just looks like Marilyn Manson circa 2003.
Jonsse
"The Juggalo"
gageendal
Jared Leto's performance was more of a Thug to me. Wasn't a fan.
LapisScarab
Leto was basically a mix of Ledger and Nicholson but if neither of those actors understood how the Joker worked.
NaamMeinKyaRakhaHai
I believe Jack Nicholson was better than Heath Ledger.
MissingLia
Jared Leto, the Hot Topic salesman
Schmaron
Yes! Batman Animated Series was the best!
hzltorio
Markuseous
The anarchist all the way!! Best joker IMO.
YesIamTheDevilButIDontExistSoDontListenToMeBesidesIamNotADoctor
those adjectives belong to all jokers...
yourbassist
Since Leto's Joker was never fleshed out, it's hard to say, but it seemed like they were going for some of the gangster elements too.
DaddysHome
agreed. also, joker has always had a gangster element in him
DarthXerxiis
Shouldn't he be called "The Pimp" rather than "The Psychopath".
HonestCatContentReviews
I often wonder if the world would be so wet-tongued about Ledger's Joker if he hadn't died. Good, but I don't like the film overall
Hannya
Yes... Mark Hamill's a great Joker voice. But not the best to cast for the role live action.
NinjaTroii
Mark hamill played a joker like character in the flash series. It's on Netflix (great show) and he even makes a subtle Star Wars reference.
OrgasmicOreos448
Heath Ledger still played a damn good joker though a lot better the Leto that's for damn sure
DaddysHome
how so? they're different. ledger was no more joker than leto, cause ledger was no comicbook joker
corvandus
Jared Leto's Joker is just the word "swag" that time-travelled five years forward, listened to Lil Wayne, did meth and dyed its hair green.
piraterobotninjacowboy
Shut up already with this crap... jeez.
DownvoteOrDie
You forgot the OG Joker
FutureHylian
DC movies dont really do their villains to well. Luthor was the Joker, and The Joker was a... Really excited kingpin
WaitIsntBukkakeARestaurant
RIP Heath Ledger
DaddysHome
man it would be so cool to have him as a cameo in dark knight rises
yelyah13
I loved all of them.. but super obsessed with Mark Hamill joker.. if I could marry him I would
jimcake
I'd love it if Mark Hamill was slimmed with CG (a la Captain America) and did a live version. Don't think it's in the cards, though.
DaddysHome
i dunno.. i dont kinda feel like he has the face for it either
jimcake
I'd have definitely said the same about any of the men in OP's image. Actually the most about Ledger and I think he was the best of the four
DaddysHome
by all means, i totally agree. but i still think leto has got a chance. but joker is not one thing.
alittletime
Fun fact: in the original comics, when batman asks the identity of the joker, it turns out there are three jokers, respecting the three (1/)
alittletime
Ages of the comic book eras: the gold, the silver, an the bronze eras. Some believe the live action movies pay respect to that storyline.
BuzzKiIlington
Leto's joker takes on a very "boss" like persona. Aside from all of the club dealings (which I'm still iffy on), the new joker likes 1/?
BuzzKiIlington
....to be very dominant. He wants to be in control of the situation and the people around him, and he makes sure they acknowledge his 2/
BuzzKiIlington
....position as the alpha of the group (I.e. guard kissing the ring, making Harley swear her life to him, ect). 3/3
DaddysHome
agreed, but isnt that how the joker rolls though
Corki
sound like trump yet?
HotShinglesInYourArea
Can't argue with Hamil being the best, but on-screen best is Ledger by far, IMO.
wutangbarrett
I'm pretty sure 95% of people think this lol
7heGunslinger
*fist bump
tobygee
I concur
Hannya
Not really a fan of Ledger's Joker. He's great at his own thing, but I always preferred the Joker "doing things because it's funny".
kansas555
My favorite has always been Nicholson.
SwaghettiYologneseWithMemeballs
Ledger comes third on my list.
SkellingtonBones
Ehh, at first I enjoyed his interpretation of it but over the years I've found Ledger's role to be stale. It isn't timeless like others'.
jimcake
I kind of feel that a bit, but I think it's just that I've seen it waaay more than the others
dothesnozberriestastelikesnozberries
Hear this a lot about Hamil, having not seen his portrayal how can he be the best given he's voice only, all due respect. Its a half job no?
parabolic000
Watch him as the Trickster in Flash. He can pull the whole thing off.
zPapa
Yea I don't get the circlejerk over him too
FBIhere
2 be the iconic laugh, or it could be his general cadence, but Hamill's portrayal is just what they think of, no matter the context.
FBIhere
It's not really a circlejerk, so much as, when people think of the Joker, in any context, they think of Hamill's portrayal. It may just 1/2
Oakshand
Theres an Episode in The Flash tv show where he plays the trickster. Its literally just the joker. Seriously go watch that. Hamil is best.
dothesnozberriestastelikesnozberries
I'll do some digging, thank you
TheAdventuresofStealy
Not exactly. The voice he does is tremendous and requires serious skill. It's not like he's using his own voice. He also did the Joker (1/2)
thisguy79
It's not like the others used their normal speaking voice. They all changed to create the character.
TheAdventuresofStealy
voice for most of the Arkham games if you've played them. (2/2)
dothesnozberriestastelikesnozberries
Oh yeah I've played! he does a great job in them. But im just feeling the others have voice, expression, mannerism etc to do. Ledger for me
FBIhere
The problem is that the image, and the people who state it, are talking about how the Joker is delivered in the final product, not the 1/2
TheAdventuresofStealy
Oh yeah Ledger is still definitely my favorite Joker but Hamill as Joker in the animated series and some Arkham games is absolutely iconic.
FBIhere
4 Joker overall.
FBIhere
3 hands down, but because the voice Hamill lends blends so perfectly with the rest of the work the animators do, it just works as a better
FBIhere
2 measurement of the work of a single actor. If we're measuring how far an actor has gone into portraying the Joker, then yeah, Ledger,
RegalJen
To everyone sitting on leto. I for one found it to be very entertaining, and I don't care if I'm down voted for it.
Ryutohara
Leto sucks massive horse cock
DaddysHome
how in-depth of you. please keep on ranting
DaddysHome
Leto was amazing, he was a new take, just like ledger was in his time. he was no comicbook joker either.
misslavada
Since no one else is saying it...I would GLADLY sit on Leto, if you know what I mean! Also, I liked his Joker in Suicide Squad.
DaddysHome
i can honestly see people growing on leto. at first he was HATED by, like EVERYONE. and now i see more andmore warming up to him. thats good
profanelogic
I agree. I need more for a full assessment. He was genuinely creepy though. I'll give him that.
Eldibs
Joker was superfluous in Suicide Squad. So was Harley. Deadshot was the main character.
CanadianThemedName
I mean, to be fair even in the comics, Deadshot was the main character as leader.
ThisIsSteel
Nothing like telling us you don't care to convince us that you actually don't care.
SomethingSomethingThisGuy
Hes a highly underrated actor, and brought the comics into his Joker, every J has to be different. He thought it to be an insult to channel.
SomethingSomethingThisGuy
Ledgers or others' Jokers.
DaddysHome
thank you. comparing is useless, and wrong. ledger was good, but sorry, we was no comic book joker like hamill. dont get the hate on leto
slasher88bravo
I liked Leto's work as the joker. I thought it fit the tone of the other characters.
Kacesofaceis
Didn't see enough of him to judge quite honestly
madeofspam
This. I don't hate on the movie like a lot people seem to do. Quite enjoyed it. Not enough Joker to be really feel his take on the Joker.
WalterSobchaksWorldOfPain
Why are people sitting on him?
KanzenChowa
I really didnt like his laugh. That was like 50% of it
DaddysHome
well he did only laugh like 3 times. maybe it'll improve
SeitanTaisei
I agree with you.
Wolfyboy
Heath was slated for not being jack. Leto was slated for not being heath. His acting, his character were fucking amazing.
DaddysHome
indeed. i will guarantee you that the next joker will be compared to letos, and it will be this all over again. "omg he's no leto
TheCockSlinger
Loved Letos Joker. He was crazy. I hope we get the deleted scenes on blu ray
DaddysHome
do you know if we'll get an ultimate cut, like with BvS?
TheCockSlinger
David Ayer said that this was the director's cut but I don't believe him. I hope we get one though
EducatedKitten
For me, it's all about the "Joker effect": the sense of uneasiness, if not borderline dread, when the character says or does anything (1/4)
EducatedKitten
on screen. When someone portrays the Joker, I expect them to essentially terrify me, because that's what the Joker is for me. He's a (2/4)
EducatedKitten
symbol of terror so ingrained in human psyche that he makes me feel scared to be around him. Leto....didn't do that, for me. He (3/4)
EducatedKitten
came across like a watered-down imitation of Ledger, without that element of fear, which took away from the character for me. (4/4)
FishLords
I feel like Leto could be a fine joker, if given the opportunity.
DaddysHome
maybe he'll get there, he had little screen time to really determine him yet
FishLords
Well, and I feel like whoever wrote his script never read the comics. I don't mind a different take on the joker, as long as it's still him.
DaddysHome
i see your point, but that being said, your argument could also be used on ledgers joker then.
FishLords
Good point, good point.
MegaDeuce
His acting wasn't the problem, it was the direction and the whole approach to the character.
DaddysHome
can i ask why? because he's not comicbook joker? neither was ledger
MegaDeuce
The Joker needs to have a sort of overarching sense of humor about everything. This guy was too serious. Not the real Joker.
DaddysHome
i'm sorry, but so was ledgers. yes he also had humor but very serious. leto might be like that, we havent seen enough
MegaDeuce
I've seen enough of Leto ;)
rxse7en
I liked the movie—doesn't deserve 26% on RT. But, I always felt like Leto was trying too hard. Ledger really sold me on his Joker.
DaddysHome
i respectfully disagree. i felt leto was good as a joker. comparing is useless cos theyre different and ledger was no more joker than leto
LapisScarab
The movie definitely doesn't deserve that score, it's weird. But Leto's Joker was dreadful imo, it just wasn't the Joker.
obizues
I would disagree. The movie as a whole was completely broken by the editing alone.
paulthebipolarbear
ledger hd a very interesting take on the joker that really hard to beat
rxse7en
Didn't love it at first. Now I really appreciate his mannerisms, look and delivery. Leto came off as a poor imitation. Did like HQ though.
paulthebipolarbear
I see your point about leto joker maybe he should have played it more like the joker from the animated series but too late for that
MegaDeuce
The whole movie was trying too hard.
rxse7en
Story was decent. Execution was bizarre.
MegaDeuce
Agreed. Just trying so hard to be "edgy" and cool, and grab some of that Deadpool money.
hibsta
Leto wasn't a psychopath, he was a snore fest. All he did as the Joker was put the theater to sleep
DaddysHome
you people fetishize ledger way to much. yes he was amazing, but leto nailed it. ledger would never fit in in this universe
HappyShark
Imo they didn't give him alot of time to be fair. I liked the part where he shot the guy in the club
Mobileuserwholikestoberandom
Spoilers! What's even the point of watching the movie now?!
Hannya
The majority of people actually like Leto's Joker.
canigetacorgiplease
I actually really liked him!
Rickeno
... in the Theater I was in, everyone loved it.
kunaiwithchain
I literally fell asleep during the movie. My friend fell asleep twice. An actual snorefest
Rickeno
personal opinion. I saw this movie as the perfect
Rickeno
comic book movie.
DontL0seYourWay
Really? If you don't mind could you explain why. I'm genuinely curious because I sincerely want to know what perfection anyone saw in it.
Rickeno
well, It was entertaining, and captured the characters fairly well. it felt like the comic, and that's why it appeals to people.
kunaiwithchain
Welp I honestly went into the movie not expecting much. Action was meh, characters were meh. It just didn't interest me much