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Edit: MOST VIRAL! Woohoo! Send Italian food.
Kitastrophe
Your engagement is not a gift you give to her, it's something you enter together. Keep Christmas to Christmas and propose some other time
Troybeam
When asking to marry think this: can I look at that face over the breakfast table for the next 40/50 years and be happy as you are now.
avastmehearty
I met my GF after we were both widowed, we are in our 50s, getting old, but her face makes me happy :-)
icanmakeayomamajokeoutofanything
Divorce is draining my money. But it's better than letting this bitch drain my soul.
VivianVonBoom
Yessss!!!! Only I'd replace bitch with bastard. Go you, get happy.
NegentropyX
Money can be replaced.
houseofnifty
It is surprisingly cheap to liquidate your assets and live forever in Thailand
EngineerforPresident
Divorce is only expensive if you have something to lose.
BreadyStinellis
True, my dad made out like a bandit! Mom, not so much.
absolutelyido
Its expensive if you have kids you wanna see And she doesn't want you to see them
EngineerforPresident
Which means... Drumroll... You had something to lose.
EngineerforPresident
Sorry about that though, shit sucks.
rindawg
My mom always hates Christmas/birthday proposals. She says they cheat you out of a gift.
Hybris51129
When you ignore social pressure and not rush into marriage:
WinterGrasp
I was gonna be like: "ppl actually do this?" N thn i realized that yes, ppl do this kind of shit. Life has simple answers
Lucallia
you know what's worse? Some people think if their relationship is having bumps before they're married then marriage will somehow
Lucallia
smooth it all out. Then they still have problems and somehow think having a child and starting a family will smooth it all out.
Lucallia
Then when everything is too far gone divorce will smooth it all out. now there's children with a broken family and years of all party's
Lucallia
lives wasted.
NegentropyX
So buy a dog!
unclemeat70
If there is the slightest question - DON’T!
Quizz25S
Learned that the hard way. Premarital counseling would have saved me a world of hurt.
CheesyPoofsWithSomeFavaBeansAndANiceChianti
Divorce isn't just for married people: I own the house my ex lives in. I moved out on her because I had to get away, and not only 1/
CheesyPoofsWithSomeFavaBeansAndANiceChianti
2/ can i not get ahold of her to try to make arrangements to at least give her the opportunity to buy the house, she changed the locks, 3/
CheesyPoofsWithSomeFavaBeansAndANiceChianti
3/ and has a new live-in boyfriend, who I could only kill in a fight, not beat up. In my state we have squatters' rights laws which 4/
CheesyPoofsWithSomeFavaBeansAndANiceChianti
4/ prevent me from simply kicking her out. Even with notice, she has to leave willfully because all she has to do is say she has 5/
CheesyPoofsWithSomeFavaBeansAndANiceChianti
5/ no place else to go. She wires money to me automatically every month to cover the mortgage payment, so I can't even say she's not paying.
quietextrovert
I made my ex wife pay for everything. I had some pretty damming texts between her and her new boy toy. Bitch.
thebigfriendly
Also, diamond rings are a scam. Got my wife a Sapphire ring.
sonic745
Got my wife a cubic zirchonia. She doesn't know.
reverendbonobo
When I found out how many child slaves die in the diamond mines, I decided to cut out the middleman and I just bought my wife the slaves.
KentuckyFriedChildren
True gentleman, right here
MapleSyrupFreedomTacos
Legitimate fear I have! I love my boyfriend, but I dont think we're at that stage yet & every holiday I worry since he's a hopeless romantic
Gaelwyn
Just tell him you’re not ready to get married. Assuming you’ve been together a while and it wouldn’t freak him out to talk about it.
avastmehearty
My GF puts me off when I bring it up, but says that long term she sees us together. Good to have lots of discussion before engagement
avastmehearty
We're both widowed with older kids, part of the delay is making sure they get launched before we make big changes in housing
MapleSyrupFreedomTacos
Oh we definitely have discussed it, but he is a much more naively optimistic type of person than I am hence the concern :/
Gaelwyn
You can lay out some life milestones you want to achieve before considering marriage. My BF wants to buy a house.
Gaelwyn
But be flexible so you don’t miss other things you want to do. Like if the milestone doesn’t happen by a certain age, maybe forget about it.
MapleSyrupFreedomTacos
That's actually some pretty good advice, thanks @Gaelwyn :)
Gaelwyn
You’re welcome! :)
dantheman728
My dad actually proposed to my mom on Christmas. It was her first actually celebrated Christmas after she left her crazy Jehovahs Witness 1/
dantheman728
Family. My dad tied it around the neck of a teddy bear. Took my mom a few minutes to find it while my dad's entire family was waiting 2/
dantheman728
In anticipation for her to find it! 22 years and 4 kids later, still happily married :)
Ilovebuns
Why is divorce is expensive? Because it's worth it.
ilovecake
It doesn’t have to be. Mine only cost us a total of $30. Just work together and don’t be a spiteful, childish asshole/cuntbag.
Quizz25S
I'm recently divorced and I disagree. Being married to the *right person* can be amazing. But divorcing the wrong person is liberating
MiercolesAddams
I concur
Gaelwyn
It doesn’t have to be expensive. It only is when people can’t agree on the terms.
Ilovebuns
We had a mutual divorce. For me it was expensive because I had to support her with the kids for 2 years while she was job hunting.
Gaelwyn
But side from duplications for rent and utilities, that cost would be the same if you hadn’t divorced. Wouldn’t it?
Ilovebuns
No she moved back to Texas and I continued to stay in California for work. Aka US Navy.
Gaelwyn
I just mean you’d be paying for food, clothes, etc when you were together too if she had no job. Texas cost of living should be lower.
Shjohn
Keep in mind everyone that a wedding ring is a special condition gift. If your fiance dumps you then you have a right to get that ring back
avastmehearty
Better to only spend on it what you can afford to give away. Diamonds are a racket anyhow (speaking as an amateur jeweler)
lurch9944
It's a verbal contract is how I always see it, break a contract lose the benefit.
revilespace
Please don't buy diamonds. The entire diamond market is a scam. And if you saw the conditions of the mines you'd be appealed. ASHA rings FTW
rshini
and honestly while diamonds have gorgeous sparkle to them, other less hyped stones have a beauty of their own
24ever
Your right it's cheaper to just buy your own mine and slaves these days.
AuthorJcooper
Also expensive when you buy an engagement ring and propose and she ghosts you 3 month later without a damn word and keeps the ring
mykeg
File a lawsuit
AuthorJcooper
I can do that? I thought it would be considered a gift or some shit like that.
shedooooooooo
Depends on your state. Also, if she had a good reason for calling it off (ie you cheated) she gets to keep it. It’s kinda case by case.
AuthorJcooper
I did not cheat. I suspect she was cheating, since she told me her new boss had asked her out, but she said no. Two weeks later she was gone
midnightpain
Check you local laws, but in many states an engagement ring is considered a contract.
BreadyStinellis
Nope. It's a contract that she broke. It's only a gift AFTER marriage. Granted, you're going to get a fraction of the money back in resale,
BreadyStinellis
But it's the principal.
VivianVonBoom
Nope, it's yours. Unless y'all marry, the ring is yours. I'm in Texas and it's that way here, anyway.
AuthorJcooper
Thanks. That actually helps me.
ToastMasterLex
I would never want to be proposed to on a holiday or my birthday. It would be much more romantic on its own day.
NemoElcon
+1 because truth
vidrographer844
I look forward to the day when things are so equal that divorce is nothing but a breakup and not about material things
GoniMaster
Well, this is tough, eg cuz the person who didn't "work" would've still worked had they not got married, things are complicated
BreadyStinellis
I don't foresee that happening without a lot more social programs, like univ healthcare, being a thing.
smoothoprater
Probably not gonna happen. 3rd wave feminism is about cherry-picking and this they definitely want to keep
BreadyStinellis
You realize that men can receive alimony too, right? More and more dads are staying home now, and whrn they start getting divorced, guess
BreadyStinellis
Who's going to want/need alimony and child support? It's not about gender, it's about who sacrificed a pay check.
smoothoprater
You realize that divorce is not just about alimony but also about splitting assets and usually men enter marriage with more because women
smoothoprater
seek men with a higher status than their own. So as a man there's more to lose than to win and this is why the MGTOW movement is getting so
smoothoprater
much traction.
JAPONfan
True. Also, Venice and Paris are cliche. And you are poor (and you are because you think about those places) save money.
AllIHaveHadTodayIsLikeSixGummyBearsAndSomeScotch
I can go to Paris for like 30 bucks. Never done it, but I'm thinking about it :P
creamedLead
Go to Russia on honeymoon. Is more memorable.
KentuckyFriedChildren
In Soviet Russia, engagement honeymoons YOU
JAPONfan
In soviet Russia Moon engage honey
darwinhacker
Love is grand. Divorce is 10 grand.
kakao13
KentuckyFriedChildren
lolz
Chadkos
gerrylarryleslieandmargoandmother
Don‘t leave her in a box at a shelter in January, please.
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Grenther
And male victims have nowhere to go https://nationalparentsorganization.org/blog/3977-researcher-what-hap-3977
Trumpelstiltskin
Finally, someone adding the joke
TheBalto
Or under a bridge...
carolInternetHero
I would rather stay a single cat lady then get a proposal on christmas.
YoureyouandImnot
It's because you're a cat lady you haven't gotten any proposals.
tacocatrose
dwgeo
I nearly said no because partner proposed on boxing day, but I didn't want to not be with them forever
z3lfmoord
*than
CoolSnackChris
Ah the difference between then and than.
IllegalDuckling
My SO said the same at one point. We're going to be a crazy cat family now.
DevilLeDoguex
Sounds like you’re well on your way!
Chandler920
My husband proposed in his parents carpeted bathroom after I asked him for tweezers to pluck my uni brow with. Romantic.
SterlingDangerZoneArcher
Sounds like you were marred already by that point
fleXbad
He was a keeper. The hairs....less so
SurelyNotHitler
What about if i propose to you on the 26th?
gd07291991
You mean Christmas Adam?
AustenFan
HAHAHA! Stealing this.
CrazyMrowLady
I'd rather stay a crazy cat lady than get a proposal at all.
governmentgavemeagun
Uzsername checks out 100%
Mjhusn
How many in the collection thus far?
CrazyMrowLady
One...
njorunn
Why not both?
CrazyMrowLady
Why not another cat instead of a husband?
RisingSol
Cats can't wash the dishes and clean up after the other cats?
CrazyMrowLady
That's where the crazy bit comes in.
walkingtallmachinegunman
Well... then I'll be right back. I have a receipt to find...
IAmNotMisterLebowski
Nobody's gonna propose to you with improper use of the word then like that
sharkkibble
As a female,I’d like to believe that she wanted to be single cat lady and then get engaged on Christmas. I’ll start working on my proposal
Gaelwyn
I think you mean, as a person who likes correct grammar. Not sure what being female has to do with it.
IAmNotMisterLebowski
Nobody LIKES to correct grammar... it's just the right thing to do.
Gaelwyn
Likes correct grammar. Not likes TO correct grammar. Smh.
sharkkibble
Because I know what women want!
sharkkibble
As a female, of course.
KlatchianCamel
Can we interest you in some frumpy clothes, cat toys and some curtains?
carolInternetHero
Yes.
rainyrivers
Lol. I told my husband no on Christmas in front of his whole family. Told him yes 3 months later at the laundry mat!
inyeranes
Why do people propose in front of others? Why put such pressure on a person to decide about their future in such little time.
inyeranes
2/2 I never understood proposals in general. It's a really big decision! I would like to discuss instead of just answering yes or no.
rainyrivers
We discussed extensively beforehand. He thought he was being romantic. But for the pressure rain I said no. It should be private
inyeranes
I'm glad you gave your answer in private later so you could think it through. I wish you a happy marriage! :)
SupraLove
Lol geez, how did he handle the shame and ask you again? I feel like I would die from embarrassment
DowneySyndrome
Yeah same, that’s gotta be a huge downer for the holiday
IllegalDuckling
Depends on what kinds of people they are to eachother.
rainyrivers
We've always been very honest. I'd told him don't do it on the holidays. To stressful. And DON'T do it in front of others I'll say no...
LadyCottonHead
That... Doesn't that seem unnecessarily mean?
rainyrivers
Why? I'd previously told him not to, that it would make me anxious and uncomfortable. When he got his yes we were folding laundry. No stress
LadyCottonHead
But. He wouldn't have asked you to marry him maliciously. Just seems a touch harsh to reject him in front of his family.
rainyrivers
Ok. From my point of view I had told him several times that I didn't want to be proposed to in front of family and friends. That it the...
PleasantPeasantPheasant
Good on you! don't make special days overlap ppl.
MrDrWatson
But then don't complain if we forget about the anniversary...
rainyrivers
We got married on pi day so we're good
Forzablu
Is this a girl thing that I don’t know about? I gotta take notes.
CatsandDnD
Depends on the woman, I'd say. Being proposed in front of mine/his family would be a total turn-off for me, but I know some who'd love it.
AustenFan
I say don't substitute a holiday gift for the ring. They should be two separate things.
lowetzark
I dunno... my wife said yes on christmas, so it probably varies based on the woman.
asquiiiiiiisha
Gosh, what a concept.
loversitsar
Proposing in public (baseball games, family gatherings, etc.) can put pressure on the girl to say yes even if she doesn't want to.
rainyrivers
The thing you should take from this is real about marriage first and listen when she says oh I'd like that or ick makes me uncomfortable
rainyrivers
Talk*
GoldenLarsen
Prenup works as well i believe.
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TheSublimeGoose
Not everyone can see the future, so they get prenups.
kr18
Holla we want prenup we want prenup yeah!!!
johnnydangerous
So ... you're telling me a 'prenup' isn't a kinky sex position?!
IllegalDuckling
He never said that. It could be kinky to the point of making a divorce unnecessary.
Upvoter2000x
prenup just means she will spend more of your money on her divorce lawyer looking for loopholes
TheJudgeHasItBackwards
I firmly believe EVERYONE should have a prenup. Plan for the worst while you still like each other, then hope you wasted your time/money.
LowlevelRebel
Doesn’t a divorce court trump any agreement in a prenup?
governmentgavemeagun
They take it strongly into consideration, especially if it is valid under law, seen as fair, and recent.
Gaelwyn
Only in situations where the prenup isn’t legally binding for whatever reason. Like if the stipulations go against the law.
Quizz25S
Once you're married both people own everything, and split everything upon divorce. Prenup prevents that.
adishdelish
Also keep in mind that regardless of intentions rings given on a holiday/birthday are considered gifts. Gifts aren’t split during divorce
kubricky
Ha, the attorney is right...a proposal is a gift...period. Don’t give heirlooms...they don’t come back...but it’s cool, fk it...it’s over!
WhyWouldIUseMyRealNick
Something is wrong with the society, if you have to worry about this.
alcaray
If you've been through a California divorce, then you will worry about this.
WhyWouldIUseMyRealNick
I take your word for it. But i do think it shouldn't be like that. (Side note, i went through my divorce on a different continent,
WhyWouldIUseMyRealNick
so my view point is probably quite far
itrhymeswithclark
Good looking out. I did not know that.
ilovecake
Wedding gifts. Those are split. Source: separated in 2013 and happily divorced. An engagement ring is always a gift, regardless.
Wolokos
Oh wow, always? So then those family heirloom rings are maybe a bad idea
ilovecake
In California at least, yeah. I’d hope that the woman was classy enough to give it back, but you never know. That’s what I’d do.
Wolokos
I mean some people get crazy in divorces... so I dunno
ilovecake
Sure, but people can be adults as well
RegginaPhalange
I gave my ring back to my ex husband. Why would I want to keep a piece of jewelry or $ that was a symbol of so much sadness and heartache?!!
MrSpookywasagoodboy2
Diamonds are worthless anyway
AwkwardKeming
Divorce attorney here. If you're really worried about getting it back, just don't give it in the first place.
krankenwagen
Do you have any crazy stories?
AwkwardKeming
OmNachoMama
Definitely this.
JustTheBeerGuy
Going through a tough time currently. She left the rings. Never would have asked for them back.
PutInaThumbnPulledOutAPlum
Hang in there. My hub and I split up twice, even filed. Took a shit ton of work but we came out on the other end happy. It does happen.
JustTheBeerGuy
Thanks. This is why I like Imgur.
GreenYawgmoth
It actually depends on the state. Look up your laws on "conditional gifts".
Nize426
Huh, I thought that goes without saying. I guess they can get pretty expensive and you'd be pretty salty in a divorce
luckyflavor23
I heard if she ends engagement then she has to return the ring
WhereDidILoseMyPants
We should ask Dear Abby ;)
Kitastrophe
Not if you give it to her as a gift. Gifting is a transfer of ownership to the recipient, while sealing an engagement w/a ring is a contract
psychotropicwanderlust203
One time I broke up with a crazy bf and he wanted me to reimburse him for every date he took me on (Which were very few).
luckyflavor23
Give him the money, but bill him like a lawyer for the time spent with him
psychotropicwanderlust203
Nice xD lol
Wolokos
Oooooh, I like that
FarNorthFarLeft
Exactly! You're not legally obligated to return it IF the engagement is broken.
slabaReactionSmuggler
That's the only case where you are wrong. Ring is engagement to be married, engagement broken ring is no longer yours
PapaBear2020
Fun fact, you can be legally forced to. Under the premise that the ring was a promise of marriage on acceptance. Promise broken, ring gone.
AllYourBaconAndEggs
I think they were referring to post marriage divorce, not calling off engagements.
ReverseTrapTsukasa
An engagement is still a promise to marry. Calling off the engagement is breaking the promise to marry.
AllYourBaconAndEggs
Ok that's great but they're vastly different situations legally, hence the distinction. One is a divorce, with its own set of laws.
AccountCreatedToUpvoteDogs
*Can*, but when it's given on a holiday, there have been precedents set where it was ruled a gift, not a promise.
MatissesPieces
Another fun fact: The $12,000 ring you buy might sell for 3k tops. GIA versus EGL grading is very important.
toiletsweepclogwench
sub $10k rings bought in by shops are purchased for the gold value alone. unless the stones are above 1/2 carat each, they're worthless.
BreadyStinellis
Spending 12k on a ring is ridiculous.
NarfButterslut
I won't spend more than $100.
Quizz25S
I'm actually trying to get my cheating EX wife's ring back right now. It cost 7k and I'm still paying it off.
johnnylobes
Pay it off, move on.... think of it like you got a raise once you are done.
Quizz25S
Would you just roll over if your cheating wife divorced you? Easier said than done. But I'm not suing her I'm asking for it back.
Wolokos
Is she the kind of person who would give it back, or keep it?
Quizz25S
Honestly? I don't know anymore. Shes changed. If she doesn't give me her answer I'll ask her again in person in January.
smoothoprater
7k?! I'm guessing she's hawt af?
archygreen
is that how it works? hubby paid 8k for mine. does that automatically mean I'm not?
smoothoprater
It was more of a joke than anything but given the fact that 8>7, by that logic it would mean than you're hotter af
archygreen
thank you random internet stranger, I'll take the compliment! lol
Quizz25S
She's pretty, but it was more of an "I'm madly in love and I'm spending the rest of my life with this woman" decision.
JustTheBeerGuy
$10k, here. Should've just been a piece of rice on a string.
Quizz25S
Yeah. I don't think the price was crazy, I think not knowing what I was doing was. I thought I knew her but I didn't. Hindsight is 20/20
ShepskyHuskherd
That's bonkers. Why spend so much on a piece of jewelry?
NarfButterslut
Stupidity.
dbrsong
Seriously, we went to a jewelry exchange, my wife is into vintage stuff which helps, but it was 1,200 and gorgeous.
ohhaidoggy
Don’t they say three months salary?
ShepskyHuskherd
Yeah that just seems ridiculous to me. I would rather we use that money for travelling or food
NarfButterslut
"They" are the ones selling the rings. Don't be a bozo.
Quizz25S
Because I was ignorant and thought 1. she was worth it and 2. I could pay it off. I've since learned a LOT about money and relationships.
toiletsweepclogwench
those are the toughest lessons to learn, but as long as it sticks, it's worth it.
ShepskyHuskherd
Yeah that's nutso. I set a $1000 max limit for my SO. He got me a second hand ring for cheap. What if she lost the ring? I'd feel awful
WookieWookieWookie
They're insured, but still don't go into debt you can't afford for it.
FarNorthFarLeft
You are not required to give back an engagement ring given on a holiday. It's considered a gift. If it's not on a holiday then it's part 1/2
cdolvs92
depends on what state your in
magila
y time.
rexjellis
This is an underrated comment.
magila
I try.
FarNorthFarLeft
of an unfulfilled contract & you are legally obligated (in most states) to return it. **Tuesday's Fun Fact**
sonic745
Why would you want to keep it, if the wedding is off?
AnHour
Rings cost money.
sonic745
Who ever bought it, recover money from It. The wedding is off.
thingssomeonesays
This seems... wrong. But I'm no expert.
ThatPersonStalkingYou
Its true. http://family.findlaw.com/marriage/what-happens-to-the-engagement-ring-in-a-broken-engagement.html
ManHasNoUsername
Really fun 1L property case. Because it's considered a "Conditional gift" on the condition of marriage.
2AlakHul4U
I hope your property professor also told you it also depends on the state as well. Some old states have weird marital property laws
ManHasNoUsername
Yeah, but that exam was like a whole year ago. I don't have to care about property for like another year when I take the bar.
2AlakHul4U
Fun fact, there was a family law essay question that involved in part college degrees as marital property on the RI Bar Exam this past July
Jawsmine
Actually depends on who calls off the wedding!
Redacted197358462
What does and doesn't matter depends entirely on the law of the state you're in.
Jawsmine
Yay Canada! Across the board
mykeg
Not true actually. Regardless it's a voided contract.
OmNachoMama
If the fiancé voids it, from what I understand, the fiancée gets to keep it.
Jawsmine
Exactly.
Jawsmine
Depends on our area. Here, yes. Whoever calls of the wedding, the other party keeps the ring.
payoffmystudentloansplz
Cost me 10 grand but I got my happiness back, and also the waking up with out stab wounds ratio has gone up exponentially since then.
DougTheLlama
Tell me you don't miss the stabbing. Even a little?
TimNorris
Kind of dark but I'm still giggling a little.
CptRobotNinja
"I dunno man, I mean she wasnt perfect but at least she cared enough to stab me every once in a while. Thats gotta count for omething right?
thesauceisboss
StrangerDangerToTheRescue
Marriage is grand! Divorce is 10 grand!
p7hk9
I’m at 250k and out clean. Even got to keep my house! “Why is divorce so expensive? Because it’s worth it!”
sheeshadsrrdrgfyh
In the process of getting a divorce. You can't put a price on peace of mind, my friend.
JimmyJabs
Did you sleep with wolverine?
HEXADECIMAL
Sent my papers after she demanded it, now she is claiming every criminal offense possible and won't sign, its like Loving the devil.
StraightOuttaUsersub
Who ever Got that 1000th up vote, fuck you.
fastfire57
59 YEARS, ALWAYS SINGLE, DO WHAT YA WANT...
Zachwithahhhhh
That’s a spicy meatball
oxyincontinent
Cheaper to keep her
efemral
Well done mate
BecauseCanadian
I feel ya. I only get on average 2.7 stab wounds in my sleep a year these days
payoffmystudentloansplz
Have my upvote sir
BecauseCanadian
Why thank you
NinjaCongo
NearlySoExalted
User name does not check out. Shirley you’d be “kickedthaypsychobitchtothekerbguy”
Imthekinginyellow
How many times were you stabbed?
payoffmystudentloansplz
Once. She grazed my hand as I jumped back. That was the end of sleeping in the same bed with her
NegentropyX
I recall: in bed one bad night, arguing woman standing over me with a drink in one hand, other hand behind her back. I genuinely was scared.
Curiousone545
Your wording, of that statistic, hurts my soul. Also, grats on less stabbings.
Mechlai
dat oxford comma tho
Toqueman
that's not an oxford comma though....
Mechlai
Just looked up the definition... Has... has everyone I've ever known been using it wrong? or am I thinking of some other grammatical 1/2
Mechlai
thing entirely? Nevermind. I said something stupid. Will try to figure out what it is I don't know later.
IFoughtTheLawAndTheLaw1
If he had put “” around the phrase it really wouldn’t have so bad
payoffmystudentloansplz
It hurt me as I wrote it
Telkesh
Hurt less than being stabbed I assume
whydouwanttoknow
Mine was and is ugly still but I never got stabbed. Thats brutal. I can't say I never had to dodge a remote or phone that came flying at me
HugoArtemisRune
Simon?
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payoffmystudentloansplz
Im sorry OP. Every day I’m glad I didn’t have kids with her.
VivianVonBoom
Woah, what a monster she is! How manipulative!!! So sorry.
EnjoyTheLifeYouHave
My dad paid 250k for one and 200k for the second recent one. I wonder what number three will be
nullpotato
150k, just to keep the pattern.
viking272
Looking at your trends and current statistics your provided I can confidently predict it will be 150k
VivianVonBoom
No whammies, no whammies, no whammies!
NegentropyX
Note, you can only give half of your assets away so many times before you become a math exam question.
mypeesmellslikeluckycharms
At that rate he really should look into lease rather than purchase.
WhispererInDorkness
Yo Daddy rich! Can I be wife number 4? I'm a dude though, no homo, bromo, but a 200k is a 200k.
5NoteHalf
For $200K I'll homo, bromo.
EnjoyTheLifeYouHave
Right?! I told him to get a boat instead of another wife and he listened
thesauceisboss
Boat party!! But boats are how rich guys get roped in to ex-wife number three. Pre-nup upon boarding is what my buddy always says!
EnjoyTheLifeYouHave
I would be pissed if he doesn’t get a prenup
Throrf
Your dad seems like a glutton for punishment...
EnjoyTheLifeYouHave
Hopefully not, just a couple bad decisions over a couple decades
Batonrougeisnotsobad
$200K+ for an engagement ring...twice. He knows he doesn’t have to marry them, right?
EnjoyTheLifeYouHave
Fun fact the first one was me!
glear
Your bank was only worth 20?
payoffmystudentloansplz
No, she didn’t get half. Judge said I had to pay half her medical bills and her car
glear
Ah ok
glear
Ah ok
whydouwanttoknow
I'm at $40,000 and counting and my divorce went final last summer. She cheated, filed when she got caught and is pissed i have 50/50 custody
Mordecai213
Bitch needs a car accident.
c0smicj0ker
That must be rough sounds like a terrible wife but unless she's a terrible mother too isn't that best for the kid? ( obviously her not being
c0smicj0ker
A cheater and ruining the marriage would have been better for them but you get what I'm saying)
whydouwanttoknow
I have no problem with 50/50 custody. I pushed for it as fair. She’s angry because she doesn’t receive any child support.
c0smicj0ker
I misread your comment to say you were pissed she had 50/50 somehow. My bad
whydouwanttoknow
She told me when everything happened that she needed my income to survive and I could see my kids every other weekend. That’s not ok for me
Mjhusn
Down that much when *she* is at fault? Yeesh
KapnKershaw
Welcome to the shit sandwich that is divorce law. I have a friend whose wife cheated, got knocked up, he filed, and court stuck HIM(1of2)
KapnKershaw
2/2...paying child support for a baby that is CLEARLY not his. Fun stuff, MN state divorce laws.
c0smicj0ker
If a Paternity test a was taken and found he isn't the father then that makes zero sense? Did he do one
mcof
Maybe you missed the $10,000 repeatedly-stabbed-in-my-sleep guy up there.
Strongharbour432
Oh you know how it is
CptRobotNinja
You made me laugh while poopin
z3lfmoord
KonEl252
My papers are still pending. Apparently she gets to keep the $10k ring though.
Ryebread91
Someone mentioned earlier on here that rings given in proposal are considered gifts and not required to be returned.
APinkDragon
Shes probably intending to sell it. Just to spite her, try to get the ring split into gems versus metal. Keep the metal part. Diamonds are-
APinkDragon
Actually almost worthless.
FooQuuxman
Well that is what rings started out as.... a deposit.
Mdp2525
That’s because it is her property. Wedding rings are “gifts” legally and cannot be taken back.
PKBitchGirl
OP isn't talking about wedding rings, they're talking about engagement rings
payoffmystudentloansplz
My ex sold everything we had two of ( electronics mainly) before she kicked me out, then demanded she get the other one in the divorce.
cupcakegirl77
Was her name Sabrina? This sounds like my evil red headed roommate who like to destroy men. She was a real life Lifetime evil female
BatmanRidingANarwhal
Holy fuck. I hate people
GlacialAsh
I mean... is the ring not a gift? Should you have to give back every gift she's ever given you?
KonEl252
Yes, it was a gift, but I feel like it's a gift with symbolism of love. Now that that love has ended, why hold onto the symbol? (1/2)
KonEl252
It isn't that I want it back, or even that I would want to sell it. Honestly, it just stings and I want my wife back. (2/2)
GlacialAsh
Well that's an entire other issue, im sorry you feel this way. I hope you find happiness, even without the ring.
HorribleWifey
My advice is shit, but my tits are okay lol
lzyeydpsycho
Mine sold her 10k ring for 4k during a separation, before it was paid off... Then we got back together for a couple years, she wanted...
lzyeydpsycho
a replacement. She got a placeholder, which she eventually stopped wearing. Surprised for some reason when I refused to sign another...
lzyeydpsycho
lease with her. Papers have been filed.
Mdp2525
Sounded like you both didn’t trust each other to do right by each other. No marriage can withstand that. Hopefully u are happier now.
bethesda13187
I am sorry, but i dont get why you bought such an expensive ring in the first place
kittyclawz
Don't worry, it stopped being worth that much as soon as it left the store
KonEl252
Because I loved her and wanted to express that. The price wasn’t an issue, but in hindsight it clearly wasn’t the best idea.
SisterSinister
So, you single?
CrotchRash
Been there, friend. The shit sucks!
Dontyoudaremister
Honestly. I'd be cool with like... just a sapphire ring instead. Cheap, cute and we can spend more money banging in cool places
bethesda13187
I guess i am simple cheap
FrenchieSan
Why do they decide that ? If that's not too personal.
ImpliedConsent
You gave it to her. So it was her personal property before the marriage. Source: lawyer
BatmanRidingANarwhal
It was bought for her
ImpliedConsent
Alternatively, it was an item given with a promise to perform. She performed (got married) so she gets to keep the item.
Gaelwyn
I think it’s a matter of fulfilling a contract. You get married, you get to keep the ring. You don’t, you have to return the ring.
thedissident
You should stop think about that statement for a second.
KonEl252
Ya, I’ll keep that in mind if there’s a next time.
WhateverYouTalkedAbout
I just realized divorce wasn't mentioned in this comment. For all we know, this person might just have found an anti stabbing shield for 10k
payoffmystudentloansplz
No. There was divorce involved
VivianVonBoom
It's awful that you had to live through that. That's terrifying. On my way out and it's no fun, but can't imagine it being that bad.
payoffmystudentloansplz
Borderline personality disorder is a devil. She thought it was amusing to try to get me killed.
VivianVonBoom
Oh, god. Yeah. That's so sad for her and for you both. Well...now you will recognize it if you see it again. There's that.
thegif420
SendMePicturesOfYourDog
I thought the stabbing comment was a joke
Bullheadbelly
I got my divorce settled for like $600, because despite our differences, not being assholes saves money.
VivianVonBoom
You're lucky you have an ex who is reasonable. It takes two to fight but only one to be an asshole and throw money at attorneys. :(
imachikenlol
My dad died divorcing my mom. They separated when I reached my teenage years and he died the year I turned 18. Both my parents are assholes.
snotwasabi
me too! It may have been the easiest divorced ever filed in CA.
Powerband07
Don't marry an asshole. Noted.
FartSmarterNotHarder
So much this. Mine cost a little over $800 including parking.
thatwoodguy
Didn't they validate it? They don't miss a trick, do they?
IllegalDuckling
$780 was the parking. It's a big boat.
BOILINGWATERCANNOTMELTSPAGHETTIBEAMS
I wish my ex wife knew that.
johnnylobes
Mine was 100% zero out of my pocket.
Misora
Law firm near me advertises civilized divorces for $500. 2 lawyers and if there's no kids you file in their office. W/ kids you go in once.
5NoteHalf
Yeah, my wife and I are still great friends, we just didn't need to be living together anymore. 19 years was apparently enough. $700 in fees
IAmTheLegendOfZelda
Just watched one finish in October for over 30k each.
whydouwanttoknow
You’re lucky. My parents divorce cost them $250 because they were able to act like adults and put us kids first. Something my ex failed at
FireAndStone
Same here. Being civil made it cheaper and easier! Lost money selling the house we just bought was the only downside due to poor timing.
PolarChi
Right now, I've talked my husband into pushing divorce off & using work's EAP for free marriage counseling... so fingers crossed...
archygreen
if you both really want it to work, the counseling will work! put in the work to reap the rewards is very true in this case. good luck!!
ptenopus
Good luck!
PolarChi
thank you so much! I haven't even put up my tree and can't afford presents this year. He moved out 3 weeks ago & I haven't told anyone:(
nononini
I hope it turns out for the best!
PolarChi
Thank you!!! ;)
heyrelaxfellayouneedarestguy
Takes 2. Good luck
booshnana
I wish you the best!
AwesomeMixVol6
Get at the root. individual therapy to find the source of unhappiness.
PolarChi
We're going to go separately at first and then go to one together. I'm just glad we've taken a step forward.
archygreen
you've got this! one step forward every day :)
Kokoroko1
Good luck. Prayers. God bless.
Bullheadbelly
I tried that, wanted to exhaust all options because I took the commitment serious.
walmartwarrior
All the best for this .. hopefully everything will be good .. rooting for you guys
Sayagain
Did it work?
HelpNeededIHave
Being a child of divorce, I really hope this works out for you....divorce doesn't just mess up your lives
PolarChi
Thank you. I'm also a child of divorce. My daughter's real father died 1 year ago. My husband is the last male role model she has...
slothlikemammal
Shit, I could be out for $600?
FireAndStone
Same here. Being civil made it cheaper and easier! Lost money selling the house we just bought was the only downside due to poor timing.
FireAndStone
Same here. Being civil made it cheaper and easier! Lost money selling the house we just bought was the only downside due to poor timing.
FireAndStone
Same here. Being civil made it cheaper and easier! Lost money selling the house we just bought was the only downside due to poor timing.
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Bullheadbelly
That sucks
archygreen
:/ how?
CoRektiveAction
Just walked away. Didn't want to fight and didn't want my son to see a drawn out legal battle. I made the money. I'll make it again.
mikoroshi
$27,000. :*(
Braytac
No kids i guess?
Bullheadbelly
No kids, no shared property
ilovecake
Mine cost $30. He had gotten laid off so no income, so he filed to get fees waived. No lawyers needed. $30 came from notarizing papers.
ILikePugandFrenchiePictures
So when the man has no money divorce is cheap?
ilovecake
It’s not gender specific. It’s if the person who files has no/low income. They waive the $500 filing fees and subsequent ones. Because he 1/
ilovecake
Got laid-off, we discussed who would file and I said he should so we could save $. Makes no damn difference really who files.
AGrammeIsBetterThanADamn
Much much less to fight over
itsdaFoodHero
Dude has anyone married and not been divorced?
Curiousone545
Yes. My mother has. My bf's mum and dad. There are many couples that enjoy happy marriages. :)
Tisbutafleshwound
I'm still married.
atarang
Mine cost just about $400. I kept my things, he kept his. Easy.
MuhammedGarza
What about the things you bought together?
atarang
No joint debt and nothing owned jointly. He owes me money so I got to keep a few things we both wanted and he does repairs for the rest.
5NoteHalf
This is how we're doing it. We still act like the stupid Looney Tunes gophers. "You take it" "no, you. I insist." "Oh, I couldn't..."
trinabeana23
Ex & I got into a fight about who would "take" the orange 70's acid trip colored couch bc had to have apartment cleared or lose deposit :)
5NoteHalf
Heheh, something on the order of "I'm not taking that piece of ####, YOU take it?" We've had that discussion, too. ; )
trinabeana23
Those were pretty close to the exact words of the fight :D
atarang
Lol I forgot all about those gophers
DrKriegersClone
Canadian divorce
5NoteHalf
Heheh, close enough: we're in Ohio. Toronto's a hop skip and a jump to the North. = )
DrKriegersClone
Well that's coincidental. I'm in Toronto and work with a guy from Akron :)