Unbreakable MLB Records

Apr 18, 2014 5:06 PM

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All-Time 'Complete Game' pitching leaders vs current day leaders...

Career complete games probably takes the cake for me as far as records that will clearly never be broken.

The use of pitcher has clearly changed over the years. A guy today hits 100 pitches and he is done. That obviously influenced the complete games as it does innings pitched.

A reduction in the innings also means a reduction in strikeouts. CC Sabathia has already played for 13 seasons, is 33 years old, and is not even halfway to Nolan Ryan’s strikeout record.

With the increasing bullpen emphasis, pitcher wins also matter much less in today’s game. When guys were throwing a complete game in 95% of their starts though, they got a lot more decisions.

It also meant that they got many more losses, which is why Cy Young’s loss record will probably never be broken either. Ironically, to lose this many games means not that the pitcher has to be bad, but has to be good enough to hang around so long he can build up the loss tally.

Of course if Young’s loss record is broken, he will no doubt hold on to his wins record much longer.

Another change in pitchers has been the increase of the number of runs scored. It is unlikely we will ever see another pitcher with a sub-1 ERA over a whole season. Current pitchers are not necessarily less dominant, though, if we look at ERA+, which compares each ERA to the league average of the year many recent pitchers are in line with the historic seasons of Keefe and Leonard.

Perhaps it’s not a real record category, but Johnny Vander Meer’s feat of throwing two consecutive no-hitters will be tough to beat. Unlike most of the other records, some which take decades to accomplish, this one only takes 18 innings. So I could potentially see someone tying this at some point, but three in a row? Good luck.

On to offense, we find Dimaggio’s famed 56-game hit streak. Unlike the pitchers, there has not been a drastic change in how offensive players are used. So it may take a long time, but this one isn’t insurmountable.

Ichiro arrived in the US at age 27 and stole a career-high 56 bags during his rookie year. Had he started in MLB at age 21 and stole 56 every season until he turned 27, that would bring his current total to one more than Tim Raines for fourth all-time.

Derek Jeter has played at least 145 games in 15 of his 19 seasons. If he continued to hit his career mark of .312 and didn’t miss another game, he would need five more years to break Rose’s record. It’s a safe bet this one will stand for a while.

Another one that would take about five years under optimal conditions to break would be Hank Aaron’s career record for most total bases. A-Rod is doubtful to reach that. Jeter won’t make it either. Albert Pujols, at 34, is about seven great years away.

One you don’t hear every day is Chief Wilson’s record of 36 triples in a season, which he did in 1912. Only Granderson and Lance Johnson have more than 20 triples in the past 20 seasons.

It would be stretch for Pujols to play that long, but not so much for Cal Ripken, Jr. who as you know played every game for 16 seasons. Another cool fact someone mentioned: Japanese player Tomoaki Kanemoto did not miss an at-bat or an inning on defense for ten years.

Finally, we’ve got the Cubs’ drought of 105 years without a World Series. If Epstein can’t pull it off, it may take 200 years.

You can hear Doc talk about his game: http://youtu.be/_vUhSYLRw14

This is pretty fucking cool.

12 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Give me 317 starts and I bet I can beat Cy Young's loss record.

12 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Ichiro is in the 4,000 hits club.

12 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Cal Ripen Jr. is my favorite player ever. I did a 5 page paper on how he is a great American this year for English class.

12 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

http://imgur.com/q6w05G4 Randy fuckin Johnson.

12 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 0

Never Forget R.I.P.

12 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

I don't follow baseball, but if we can accept hockey, I'll be damned if we can't accept this too!

12 years ago | Likes 54 Dislikes 4

*raises hand sheepishly from the back of the room. Can we accept soccer?

12 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 2

hockey has violence and speed though. baseball is slow, calculated, much more about a 1 on 1 batter/pitcher duel.

12 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

I don't care about baseball but I love graphs, so I'll happily accept this.

12 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I find this interesting as hell! Baseball has changed a lot since first being called "America's Favorite Pastime".

12 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

Just because it isn't Supernatural doesn't mean Imgur needs to be blasting the downvotes. Content for all!

12 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Don't care about baseball or even understand what is good but +1 anway, want more of these for different sports.

12 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 2

Pitching strategies have changed so much. It's really unfair to current pitchers to compare them to those before the live-ball era.

12 years ago | Likes 38 Dislikes 4

Plus mound height changes took a huge advantage away from pitchers when they were lowered.

12 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Which is why it's saying that these are "unbeatable" records. It's changed so much, that those old records aren't comparable anymore.

12 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 2

Is anyone else worried by the giant gaps he's showing with the little blue arrow between the last two bars?

12 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

You're right. There's no way that those tiny arrows could support the columns, if those huge gaps started to collapse.

12 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Old Hoss Radbourn is one of the coolest names I've seen lately

12 years ago | Likes 20 Dislikes 0

I concur.

12 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Seriously. For some reason I imagine him as the great grandfather of Ron Swanson.

12 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I've got a book about him. The way they played baseball back then (He did that record in 1884 for the Providence Grays) was insane.

12 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Man, that's a little too graphic for me.

12 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 2

I was at the game for Cal Ripken Jr.'s record breaking feat. I love the Orioles.

12 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I'm a statistician, I make charts like these. Life is average

12 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

By far and away the 2 records that stand out as utterly impossible to replicate are most complete games and Cal Ripken's 16 year long streak

12 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Those will be broke twice befor 3 consecutive no-hitters are thrown.

12 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Billy Hamilton (Not that one) Lol I get it, not the active one with the reds.

12 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Yea I was playing MLB the Show and I saw that on a record and had to do a double take.

12 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I love your user name. Just sayin

12 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Increased bullpen emphasis has nothing to do with why pitchers won't ever come close to the wins totals, both single season and career (1/2)

12 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

it's that pitchers would commonly pitch every second or third game back in the day. Nowadays a healthy pitcher won't even start 35 games.

12 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

You get a +1 for the last graph, if nothing else.

12 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

From this point on I will always do LSD before I play baseball

12 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

NEEEERRRRD! How do YOU like it, huh?

12 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

All of this is REALLY interesting... Baseball's really changed. :O

12 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Re: wins: it's a bit unfair to compare old timey pitchers to modern pitchers because of the rise of the 5-man rotation.

12 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Well that and older pitchers were pushed a lot harder and were a lot more durable than today's pitchers. Today's pitchers are under pitched

9 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Dock Ellis's no-no was amazing. He wasn't peak-tripping, but he was def. still tripping, and had gotten some amphetamines from a fan.

12 years ago | Likes 122 Dislikes 10

The story is that he wasn't suppose to pitch so he took some lsd the night before, but then someone got injured or something and he had to

12 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

I read that he just fucking forgot what day it was.

12 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I wish that there was footage of that game. I've looked far and wide and have come up empty handed though

12 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Didnt David Wells throw a perfect game hungover and maybe still drunk?

12 years ago | Likes 20 Dislikes 0

David Wells did everything hung over.

12 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 4

Yah he wrote about it is his book, he was still drunk when he threw his perfect game!

12 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 0

I thought David Wells was always either drunk or hungover. He certainly looked it.

12 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

dive out of the way because he thought it was coming straight at him

12 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

go in and pitch. If you watch some of the hits, the ball would be going completely in a different direction then him and he would

12 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Here's a cute animation for fans and non-fans alike: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vUhSYLRw14

12 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Ah yes I was going to post this gem. "I'm higher than a Georgia pine"

12 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Ty Cobb was a crazy motherfucker. http://www.batoto.net/read/_/29913/the-lives-of-eccentrics_v1_ch1_by_hox/9

12 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

this was impressively good

12 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It was confusing to read, like right to left

12 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Baseball is a statisticians wet dream

12 years ago | Likes 56 Dislikes 1

As a baseball statistician, I can confirm.

12 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Give me a job! Lol, that's always been my dream but I guess census data will have to suffice for now ;_;

12 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Baseball is my wet dream. Wait, that doesn't sound as good as it did in my head.

12 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

It's okay, mine too

12 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Hold on a minute the cubs will continue to drought breaking their own record for decades to come

12 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

When (if) the Cubs win the World series, I'm pretty sure the whole city might burn down again.

12 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

As a Cards fan, We can only hope.

12 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

As a Cardinals fan, I find it hilarious that 2 Chicago teams haven't won a World Series in over 85 years but we've been there 4 times (1/2)

12 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

(2/2) and won 2 times within the decade. And hell, we could do it again this year.

12 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Jimmy Rollins hit 20 triples in 2007, his mvp season

12 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

thank you someone else for remembering this...i was like fucking phillies haters forgot jimmy.

12 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Should've went to Holliday.

12 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

As a phils fan, I think you're probably right, but it's almost impossible to win an mvp in Colorado.

12 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Many analysts said, that because of the Coors Field effect, their offensive productions were equal, but Rollins is a gold glover

12 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I have no idea what any of this means, but I appreciate bar graphs when I see them.

12 years ago | Likes 41 Dislikes 5

Can we summon an American to explain?

12 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Yes, I agree with that plan

12 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

American who plays baseball here.....these are terrible graphs.

12 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

What do you need help with? Most of it is pretty self-explanatory (if you know what baseball is)

12 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

My knowledge of baseball consists of a bat, a ball, and it's apparently okay to steal bases.

12 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

MRW I read "It's apparently ok to steal bases": http://imgur.com/Yz8lm8M

12 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Stealing is when you run to the next base when there isn't a hit

12 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Basically all you need to know is that the great players of the past hold the most coveted records and changes in the way games are(1)

12 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

played means no one will really ever come close to them. Not just because of the changes, but because they were damn good(2)

12 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Homeruns are when you hit the ball out of a field, resulting in an automatic score

12 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Not actually automatic. The bases still have to be touched in order, and passing the runner ahead makes you out. See "grand single"

12 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I left just after the 6th

12 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 5

Found the Dodgers fan

12 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

D-Backs, but close

12 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Downvoters: FYI this is a baseball pun not an anti-sports "tl;dr" comment

12 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Thank you

12 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Way to bring new fans to the baseball realm. Overwhelm them with graphs and stats.

12 years ago | Likes 226 Dislikes 26

I can only imagine you're a guy with lense-less glasses.

12 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

Yeah...aside from my kid's little league. ..o don't like baseball ...i found this quite interesting

12 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

I chuckled.

12 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

This is baseball! It's easy to lose focus of a game when it is out of context but the stats and records are what gives fans a connection 1/2

12 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

To the past

12 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Given that this came from r/baseball, I doubt that was their goal. More to point out some interesting record info.

12 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

it's from /r/baseball... doubt that is the whole reasone...

12 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Statistics does play a major role in baseball.

12 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

tbh that's pretty much all baseball is. statistics.

12 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

Stats are the kind of things that make me interested in sports. I LOVE football stats.

12 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Data is beautiful.

12 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I love data. Data is beautiful.

12 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

This... actually made me give a crap about baseball for a few brief, brief seconds.

12 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Baseball and statistics go together like the Cubs and failure.

12 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I love baseball and graphs. This picture gave me an erection.

12 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 0

12 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I would suggest the film Moneyball.

12 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

To be fair, this is more interesting than the sport itself.

12 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 3

As someone who likes statistics and plots but is not into baseball, this would probably be the best way to get me interested.

12 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

It's from r/baseball.

12 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Or overwhelm them with overly long games with very little action.

12 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 7

Downvote as much as you want, baseball is the most boring sport. Even curling is more interesting. Let me stand at the plate for 10 minutes.

12 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

I actually found it totally interesting and will be sharing it with my friends who actually like baseball

12 years ago | Likes 62 Dislikes 0

Same here. This is what baseball is about. You want flash and attitude go watch the NBA.

12 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

but then I'm a math teacher so...

12 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

You'd probably find a lot of stats sabermaticians use pretty interesting.

12 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

...my friends do not statistically exist.

12 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

You my "friend" need to get familiar with quantum physics instead.

12 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I do indeed dabble

12 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0