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rufisium
Wait so what happened?
Paleomon
Can we all just start using this to reply to Elon Musks's posts?
dogestyle
C - O - O - L COOL https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9mK08VpFa4
XXXSpork
The privatization of space travel and exploration is a huge mistake
RVME
The free market is not really "free" when it is subsidized by import tariffs, tax cuts and preferential laws like old minimum wage laws.
expectnothingstillletdown
being a billionaire is substantially morally worse than being a serial killer.
Superkraut
Elon? That you?
HOOMANGUY
Jeff Bezos on why he wants to go to space: "I have so much money there is no other way to spend it!" I would know a few ways, jeff.
furezasan
Working class earth serving Martian upper class.
SomeDetroitGuy
Missing the part where his attempts to "save the Earth" actually make things worse but make him more money.
depressedscientist
Elon Tusk
Luciferswings
Elon is that you?
FartPoweredPogoStick
LETS GO TO MARS!
TheHorseShesElbowDeepIn
MrBlueSands
"The whole world cries out for Peace, Freedom, and Less Fat Bastards Eating All the Pie."
PballQhead
Heh...funny how everyone is OMG TAX BEZOS but Elon, who's even more exemplary of the overvaluation of stonks, gets a pass.
Ikwilstroopwaffels
The only thing Musk deserves is a blindfold followed by a pine box.
Elonth
Can someone please inform me why everyone is up in arms? I can't find anything about what Elon has done recently for this sudden wave.
Jandegrote
When do rich people even pretend to save the earth they are all trying to get into space before its to late.
urgotobekiddingme
Fuck the rich almost all of them. Nobody needs that much fucking money.
BahamutBBob
Elon, you're pushing good things for humanity, but you're still pretty fucking scummy. You need to do way more good to balance the karmic
BahamutBBob
scales.
SomeDetroitGuy
He's *pretending* to push good things for humanity while causing demonstrable harm.
Bastoid
Oh wow, he sure done convinced me! What a cool guy!
CrappleJack
Oh Musky, you rapscallion, i mean plutocrat fuck...
jennym123
I wish Elon Musk was half as cool as I used to think he was. He's so damned charismatic but also a massive douche.
SarcasticComment
He was always a massive double. The only carisma he had was to make incels ignore it.
jennym123
I'm not arguing that he's not a douche, he's always been a douche. I just wish he wasn't one.
laurenfirefairy
Elon musk gives me super villain vibes
railgap
What, just because the richest man in the world is building giant rockets by the dozen and just purchased to enormous ocean-going/
railgap
two
railgap
platforms to launch them from? Dunno what yer on about, mate. ^_^
GentlemanJawa
I grew up watching Star Trek and dreaming of the day when we would explore our solar system. Now I hope we don’t.
adiving
Expanse or Killjoys more likely... maybe Dark Matter if we are lucky.
derscur
Haha BASED cool billionaire amirite? How fucking POGGERS is that fellow internet users?
UnoriginalPieceOfRepeatingShit
Its totally YEET yo
nxrble
...flight logs?
Colopty
Yeah not sure what's that referring to either. Any dedicated Elon critics who know?
beneaththeradar
He flies on his private plane a lot, tried to say its because he's so busy doing business things but many of the trips were frivolous 1/2
beneaththeradar
And this coming from a guy who tries to pass himself off as cool and saving the world from fossil fuels. Elon is a chode.
beneaththeradar
Also apparently he flew with Epstein more than once. So he's basically like every other asshole billionaire, just with a skateboard.
CrisprCAS
Is the answer 'Actually pay taxes'?
Truckin
Yes AND unionize. Be willing to stop work. Be willing to stop scabs. Take video of pinkerton and police union breakers make it public.
AtypicalMammal
Pinkertons are after us again? We have to move camp, Dutch.
YouMealyMouthedCrotchPheasant
If you allow me to be stinking rich, I'll allow you the dream that you could also be stinking rich. Not that you will be, but you can dream.
crazyspelling
Sounds like "Royalty"
AtypicalMammal
I don't care about being stinking rich. Like, I really don't. I have enough. But I'm glad the richest guy is doing crazy space shit with it.
AtypicalMammal
Unlike Bezos who was just sorta hoarding it pointlessly and boringly.
RayMC
And THIS is the mentality of Elon fans. There’s nothing irrational about it; no one thinks he will take us to the future. It’s just nice (1)
RayMC
seeing a billionaire do SOMETHING with their money instead of sitting on it. (2/2)
AtypicalMammal
That's exactly my point. His Starship vanity project is creating much more jobs and scientific knowledge than a mansion on an island would
RayMC
Oh yeah, I understood you. I was trying to reemphasize your comments.
LurkerOfDarkness
No, I don't want you to pretend-save earth, there's already a plan and if you had something better you'd share it freely.
skyconb
Also making us a multiplanitory species is not to abandon earth, it is to stop us to go extinct from a single event.
skyconb
To play devils advocate. What plan?
LurkerOfDarkness
The Paris agreement, plus all the more local plans around the world.
skyconb
The PA just says to reduce Greenhouse Gas emissions. Technology like carbon capture and electric cars are how we would meet those goals.
skyconb
Elon musk has a lot of flaws, he treats employees bad. But he he supports the PA https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/870369915894546432
skyconb
Please, can we criticize people for their flaws, and acknowledge the good they do. People are not black and white
LurkerOfDarkness
SausageCowboy
Everyone gonna be shocked when those Mars colonies turn into multi-billion dollar hostels for the well-to-do fleeing global warming.
Atomsk
Nah, people will go there and die b/c of the hostile environment and it will be a monument to overreaching.
muchLongerUsername
Which is dumb. Even with global climate change, earth will be vastly more hospitable.
WoeToHice
That's actually optimistic. I'm envisioning something between The Expanse and Red Rising.
BryanNeff2000
A small windowless building buried under several feet of Martian dust to reduce - not eliminate - solar radiation. It’s basically prison.
smsbuCandyMonster
I thought it was going to be the penal colony for debtors.
buttfumbledeluxe
Did you all think you were coming?! No, no, no, the meek inherit the EARTH you see..
demergivore
E-fucking-xactly
colt64
I hate it, but if that's what it takes to get humans off-planet I'll still take the deal. We need a backup. This one may already be toast.
JhericFury
I remember when musk first got popular and people would get shocked when I said I prefer a govt in space more than private companies.
TheobromineAddict
Nope. Not gonna be shocked.
hetriedtokillmewithaforklift
Or a mining colony. REEEEED FACTION!
Thephedora
Not... entirely.
TheSmallTennisRaquetUsedToStunFlies
Jesus Christ let bing on Mars would suck balls! Donkey balls. What a shitn hole!
HerrBisch
Nah man, he already said he's planning to turn Mars into a debtors' prison.
IamNotAshamed
a lot of bad needs to happen on earth until it becomes less habitable than fucking mars. nuclear annihilation scale bad.
jdfotopoop
nuclear annihilation would still be more hospitable than mars. mars is a dead planet.
RideTheStimutacs
They can maintain it themselves then.
byohzzrd
Hmmmm if only there were dozens of movies with that premise we could watch and see potential futures...
CyanideBreathMint
Not everyone. Hopefully less <25%.
AtypicalMammal
Meh. Planet is fucked anyways. We all fucked. At least this way we'll get to see some cool sci fi shit before most of us die.
SausageCowboy
Why do my tax dollars have to pay for it? And how come a guy who doesn't pay taxes get to keep what they fund?
AtypicalMammal
If NASA was doing it (more expensively and wastefully), would you still complain? NASA doesn't pay taxes either...
SausageCowboy
Yes. NASA is a boondoggle, but at least the shit they do with my money doesn't immediately become the private property of some foreigner.
AtypicalMammal
Musk is a foreigner because he immigrated to the US and became a citizen? Well, so did I. Your xenophobia is showing.
Ninjainslippers
It's funny that you think we'll establish colonies on Mars before societal collapse. 50 years is a best case scenario for both.
cyborganism
Didn't Elon say that those traveling to Mars can pay off their debt for the trip by working for him on Mars?
madeejit
Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.
cyborganism
Les rois sont maintenant des milliardaires. Ils n'ont qu'à payer les partis politiques pour avoir ce qu'ils veulent.
GoodKingFuzzwumps
Indentured slavery isn't slavery if your making money /s
Sphinct182
There's no unions in space!
RideTheStimutacs
What's he going to do? Earth-sue them with his Earth-laws for Earth-money?
galiean251
Will he name it the Ultor Corporation?
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LonelyHumanBoy
As long as the Orokin never exist we should be fine. That said, the Corpus will be an issue.
Darkspire
Be sure to stop by the company store to spend your Musk Tokens!
mmartin762
So basically indentured servitude. But I feel a little less bad knowing it will only be the uber rich who are the victims
OtterOfDoom
Why do you think the Uber rich are going to require a loan that needs paying back?
chrisdafurfox
lol elon would still take the money and then force them to work anyways what are those scared rich people gonna do fly the rocket back?
chrisdafurfox
he literally got a his start and wealth growing up from his families emerald mine during apartheid the red flags are there
AnonMasterRace
It’s gonna be great being forced further into debt by buying oxygen for an immense price on a planet you can’t escape.
chloramphenicolderivative
If you can't afford to buy a ticket don't go to mars then. It's also not like paying people in money on mars is worth anything because the/1
chloramphenicolderivative
production on mars is going to be limited to bare sustenance at first, so there is no market to buy anything in yet. 2/2
Eldibs
Red Faction, The Outer Worlds, background world-building in Cyberpunk 2077, etc...
sebastianthelobster
On Earth we call that indentured servitude
shinagami091
Of course. Billionaires need slaves to do all the dirty work for them, don’t they?
Psyman2
Elon said a lot of shit over the years. "If you're poor you can arrive on Mars a slave." is just his latest stunt.
SausageCowboy
Taxation is evil. But serfdom is a fair and balanced institution.
hwatL4bloopy
Indentured servitude is partially how the USA was colonized and built.
Rheios
I mean, if you're dumb enough to *elect* it..sorta? Its why you shouldn't pen contracts with devils, especially charismatic ones.
LordofSandvich
Serfdom on an inhospitable, nigh uninhabitable rock sounds a lot like some things we outlawed
Igotthemeatsweats
Nah man Australians just take care of themselves now
superbest
Serfdom 2: Mars Boogaloo
thatfellathere
Mars boogaloo: alien gigolo
SausageCowboy
Just wait 'til they orchestrate the Mars Soylent Green Famine of 2064
HaydukeLivesGoddamnit
We have serfdom with banks and lending institutions instead of lords. Old boss is a dick until you meet the new one.
DukeSamuelVimes
Yup, the credit based society is just a modernisation of feudal serfdom. Nothing more.
LurkerPilot
Also maintains International law doesn't apply on Mars. Get ready for some proper dystopian stuff.
SarcasticComment
Finally. A Bioshock that isn't underwater
thomerow
Don't worry. I know it's a controversial opinion, but I don't believe we are advanced enough to successfully colonize another planet as 1/2
thomerow
a species. Technologically speaking we are many decades (if not centuries) away from that development stage. 2/2
SmashySashimi
Yep. Biosphere 2 failed twice, and no one’s taken up the mantle in over 20 years.
grandslamdolf
“Quaid! Start the reactor!”
bward141989
If international law doesn't apply on Mars then he can't actually legally force me to pay him back once I'm there
somethingawesomeandgreat
The mars will have its own contract and lots of small prints
RetiredPlumber
Asset#367474636, you have insufficient work credits in your account to afford lifesupport for this quarter.
Vojens
And you can't force him to supply you with food, water, oxygen, shelter.....
cyborganism
Then I'll start my own colony. With black jack and hookers.
warp10
Which, iirc, is the entire plot of the game Red Faction
DanielReader
Also see the opening of Outer World's. Also a great song related to it called "the fine print". It is excellent
TangledHeartstrings
Fucking love Outer Worlds. Such a great game - and a BIG YIKES to indentured servitude by major corporations
RealTurdFerguson
Made a short distance from my hometown in Champaign Illinois. Such an amazing game.
LonelyHumanBoy
Guerilla is still the only game i have encountered with full structural physics, it pisses me off it never took off in mainstream.
RealTurdFerguson
AND it had a sweet “multiplayer”mode, too. Rail gun FTW.
spiceass9000
I mean you’d have to work for someone else and probably never make enough to get on a trip there so idk it’s bad but is it really different
cyborganism
It is. If you can't work once you're there and can't pay your debt, what will they do to you?
AHDaniHodd
Indentured Servitude is bad, yes. You should research it. There’s a lot of history with it and you’ll see that it’s not a good thing at all.
spiceass9000
I understand it’s bad. What I’m saying is minimum wage already is indentured servitude essentially and will never get you to Mars
AHDaniHodd
Minimum wage isn’t that though? MW should be higher so people can afford living but MW allows people to have a choice. For example: you can
spiceass9000
I’m not saying he’s right for doing that I’m just saying really what’s even the difference at this point