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#memes #funny
Apr 19, 2021 11:35 AM
ThePeoplesBard
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#memes #funny
kspice
More teacher memes, pls
deadonmyfeet
I guess there is no point in teaching any subject then? Nice attitude she’s got there.
Gamemaster64
and if they listen, they will forget about it.
IBareAssPublicToilets
I love when the parents say it too. Like, dude, YOU could teach your kids how to file taxes.
Rifneno
By this abortion of logic, why have school at all? Also, since she's a teacher maybe she can teach you what "funny" means? Cuz it ain't this
Warune
Ya know what I woulda liked to learn? Not everyone knows what they want to do, and shoulda went for a trade school to make good money
Kakakarrakeek
At least then it would be your fault
saxon2060
Good point. Also, schools can't teach you everything. Your guardians have the responsibility for making you a functional adult and >
saxon2060
integrating you in to society and allowing you to live independently. That's not school's job at all.
usernamei
In my HS the required personal finance class was literally pretend playing stocks. That’s basically it.
Neurisko
Bad students do exist; mostly, children of dullards. But teachers have to be able to get kids interested, too. And they should be paid more.
thefuzziestofbutts
But there are weird moments I remember in middle/high school that I thought were SO boring but as an adult those tidbits have helped a lot.
AtlasFutureOverthrowsAmerica
The amount of people that don’t understand tax BRACKETS is staggering
P0sterNutbag
‘If I get a raise, I’ll make less because of taxes’ has to be the most annoying myth out there.
AtlasFutureOverthrowsAmerica
SmolPinkDragon
I never learned how to do my taxes in school nor did my parents teach me. I had to learn on my own with Turbotax holding my hand.
prattlepro
Still be more useful than 'standards-test taking tips' like when it makes sense to guess on multiple choice if wrong answers = -.25 pts.
itsfivethirsty
glassware
The tax forms change every year. If you learn math you know how to do taxes. Schools teach math. They don’t teach forms.
SewerRanger
But they certainly teach reading comprehension and word problems. Most people only need to fill out a form1040; it's 37 questions and
SewerRanger
You can skip most of them.
FuzzyWolfy329
Sounds obvious, but to someone who’s newly independent, it’s not.
jacquesmehoff
A bunch of people who got a C- in taxes class would still complain that now there are “new taxes”
MyGreatestFearBoner
The why bother argument. Cause it's too hard. Conversely, pull yourself up by yourself boot straps
Nobody7713
You realize the bootstraps metaphor is made up because it's impossible to do, right
jimmyhowlett
We have new science. That's life. We still teach people about the science we know as we know it today. Do the same with taxes
jimmyhowlett
E.g. forensics classes and computer science are both common in high schools today (at least here)
Articate
My dad always said that school teaches you the skills to figure this out yourself
ObliqueRay
Yet when I remind people here that it's their fault they were blowing spitballs at the back of the class, they get maaaaad.
onyxrubies
We had this class when I was in high school it’s honestly the only class that stuck with us into adulthood.I feel lucky that it was offered
SeansModernLife
There needs to class that explains basic financial things you'll come across in your adult life... Tax Returns, 401k/IRAs, mortgages, Credit
SeansModernLife
Scores, etc. Just so you at least have some sort of reference to these things for later. That and a Civics class
backoffman
As the meme says, you wouldn’t have listened in class anyway
SeansModernLife
Probably enough to be more aware of these things later, and at least retain the general idea of what they are and why they are important.
StorytellingSalem
Not a good enough reason not to teach it and this post says more about you
mooseablethenok
How bout this, at 16 I was already doing my taxes cause I had a fucking job and it wasn’t that fucking difficult to require being taught.
StorytellingSalem
Yeah no. Need to take care of that quick to get angey phenomena. No one but you wants to tolerate that. K thanx byeeeee
StorytellingSalem
Angry*
mooseablethenok
Go find the biggest bag of your favorite genitalia and eat just...ALL of them. Some things in life don’t have to be handed to you.
cjandstuff
"Your parents should be teaching you that stuff." How, if they've never learned it themselves! My parents introduced me to a loan shark 1/2
cjandstuff
when I turned 16, because "that's the way poor people borrow money." Took me a decade to realize my parents had NO financial education. 2/2
JessicasJonesing
Honestly, if i didn't use the info, i wouldn't remember it. I could learn in high school but forget by the time im no longer a dependent.
JessicasJonesing
We just need a tax system overhaul. The government knows how much we owe. They need to stop making us figure it out. Fuck our tax system
thevortexmaster
Our?
JessicasJonesing
They're in NY in the meme and a country with decent tax laws probably already teaches tax law appropriately. This is a US meme.
thevortexmaster
Hmm, good take away. We did have a resume and tax class when I grew up. I didn't pay attention hahaha
JessicasJonesing
Hopefully your government isn't trying to fuck you and taxes are easy. They make it complicated here intentionally.
Antiriver133
Its like this because of before computers it would require tons of workers that get paid and you have to add nonreported incomes.
seiken82
It's so wild to me that no other school districts in the U.S. had an econ class. we learned all this in school, why didn't everyone else?
SoSorryImNotEvenCanadian
We had home econ class. Where I learned to dye a shirt draw and cook a dish
seiken82
We also learned how to balance a check book, even though that has been irrelevant since almost immediately after graduation.
SteveNotSteve
Yeah, but the principal of making sure you've always got enough in your account is still relevant. Some people struggle with this.
Gerjager
I live in kentucky, the focus was largely on college preparedness and act scores.
Gerjager
The only econ class was a specialized entrepreneur business class, nothing general
yallmfsneedjesus
They do. The people that complain are the ones who didnt take the course pay attention or skipped. Finance and Home Ec were electives..
yallmfsneedjesus
..at my school. Both taught personal finance. Cant tell you how many of my classmatea i see on facebook complain our school didnt teach it.
gir2195
I had econ in 3 different high schools, and none of them taught anything personal. They only taught how the government and economy interact.
gir2195
For the curious: South Georgia, Rhode Island, Central Pennsylvania
iamthisguy247
Honestly even when you don’t listen or care for what you’re learning, you probably retain some of it. By this principle why teach anything?
Qualtagh
School, up until PHDs and job certifications, is less about learning information than it is about learning how to learn.
P0sterNutbag
The thing is, you learn everything you need to know to do taxes, and should learn the critical thinking skills to look for the info you lack
intelligentplanet
Gerjager
I agree. Even if some people won't listen that doesn't mean you should screw over the students who would listen.
rubesqubes
It takes about 15 minutes to Google how to do taxes, pay rent, take out a loan, etc. Logical problem solving takes a bit longer.
PWBoiler
The internet had plenty of “they don’t teach this in school” posts about stuff that they do, in fact, teach in school.
PWBoiler
Has. Not “had.” I’m not communicating with you from some distant, post-internet future.
tareatingrat
The thing is, what people don't retain, they bitch about, hence this meme. Chances are good you were taught taxes at some point.
Gerjager
Ky resident, taxes were never covered
PimpinKen
Not in school I wasn't. The only thing I learned about taxes is the old "only two things you can count on in life" adage.
jimmyhowlett
We were taught compounding interest but not taxes
drcookieninja
Yeah we were definitely taught how to do taxes. And world history, fungal life cycles, acceleration vectors, basic carpentry... I use none
drcookieninja
... Of these topics in my regular career or 95% of my daily life, but it's basic knowledge. It's important.
drcookieninja
Use an accountant by all means, but you should know the basics of taxes, how they work, and how to learn more about them.
takebackmath
Taxes are percents, adding and multiply, I teach that in 6 and 7 and, yes, many don’t pay attention.
TheVenerableJudgeTaintyMcPoo
I’m guessing from your broken English that you aren’t American. In the US, taxes and tax forms are inexcusably difficult to understand.
takebackmath
Lol, no I’m a math teacher in Northern California, and I’m English speaking.
TheVenerableJudgeTaintyMcPoo
Lol oh dear
gir2195
The laws, what are and aren't deductible, dependencies, etc, and how to navigate the ever-changing system are where we lack.
sman123123
So you expect each district to come up with curriculum specific to their municipality for something that you describe as 'ever-changing'...
gir2195
Federal tax laws have changed multiple times in the last few decades. A curriculum can teach basic legal/tax literacy, and where to begin.
nero4ty2
and those are highly individual, should schools estimate where everyone will be at every point in their life and tailor a class to them?
gir2195
What you can personally do is individual. How these things work is not. What to look for when preparing is not.
jrntn
It's amazing to see someone so proudly and condescendingly admit that they fundamentally don't understand taxes
Evi1Gav
You mean the way you just did?
jrntn
Nobody who has ever seen a tax form would think that the only thing you need to know to file your taxes are arithmetic. Not a soul.
rudejohn
You get a W-2. You pay a few bucks for TurboTax. You answer all their questions in about an hour of time. You're done.
jrntn
Okay. And that's covered in 6th grade arithmetic? No? Well there you fucking go.
InspiredForestRaptor
This is not accurate
matthiasfactor
How much of your grade school career can you remember
InspiredForestRaptor
Honestly, i remembered more of the methids i was taugh and some of the "everyday" reminders i still used back in school.
InspiredForestRaptor
Taxes though would be nice to understand the logic behind it all and why so many things semm not make sense....
thevortexmaster
We had a taxes, resume writing and personal readiness class when I was in school. I didn't pay attention
Svartlebee
Hot take, if you understood math class, you can calculate taxes.
TargetedAdBot
Calculating taxes is incredible boring for a child. It's not about ability to do calculations.
thevortexmaster
I tried. I spent an hour the second question about my t1 that I couldn't find anywhere. The hard part isn't usually the actual math.
OriginalSyn
We have a course called Career and Life Management, it teaches you a bunch of pretty basic things but as OP said, no one pays attention
TooMuchDad
Still probably more useful for the average person than like a second semester of not paying attention to chemistry or something
WhatallWhatnot
Yup. They taught me to do taxes in that class (in 2015) but by the time I had to do my own I really didnt remember anyways. And I got an A+
synco94
Wish we had that in high school when I was going. Most of the kids I meet these days must'nt've paid attention.
Etereo
Try doing it maybe
IAmFaucetFailure
This! As well, they’re all just concepts until you actually do your own taxes, purchase a new car and have to choose a type of warranty, etc
itscaecilia
I had the same thing in high school. I took the course with ppl who complain about not having learned this shit in school. Ppl dumb.
daimomusic
Oh shit, I had that class to. In our school we called it CALM-20.
Patte319
Yeah, I had this class almost 20 years ago. Just like anything in highschool, you learn what you're willing to learn.
daimomusic
Thanks for reminding me Highschool was 20 years ago
OriginalSyn
That said still important to teach & I there ought to be a class dedicate to taxes & one that teaches you how to spot statistic manipulation
binaryspike
Statistic manipulation isn't a big a problem as you think. I would say teaching "credible source" is better. We also need to define a—>
binaryspike
<—a "lie" as a fallacy, so we can shit on liers more.
CommsAreDown
Schooling is designed to give you a survey on a wide range of subjects and build critical thinking, so you can go out and learn on your own.
SteveNotSteve
My High School taught critical thinking, mostly through history and literature. When I got to college I learned others were not so lucky.
smax410
Have you been to school in America?
gir2195
I'm with you. Our school system just trains you to be a mindless test taker.
nero4ty2
maybe that's all that you got out of it, there is definitely a lot more to it than that
CommsAreDown
Design isn't always the same as the implementation. I was lucky to have a good US public school system. Many aren't as lucky
FussyZeus
I mean that's part of it, but it's naive to ignore that the growth of the education sector was sponsored by industrialists looking to 1/
FussyZeus
save money on training people how to do clerical work and middle-management type shit. And that's not horrible by itself but with the 2/
FussyZeus
huge spike in standardized testing, and the threat of lost funding for failing at it, has lead many schools to prioritize that over 3/
FussyZeus
anything else. As with most things "it's complicated" but you can get a good idea of the problems if you look at who benefits from them. 4/4
SuperBeetle76
Thank you. Yes
ChrisYourself
Does that mean we shouldn't at least try though?
Grey56
This.
evasiveinaction
We teach it at my school. The kids are 100% not interested.
swatz
Most people used the 1040ez when they got out,my cousin just did her taxes the first time by herself with turbo tax and told me it was easy<
swatz
>so how far do you want to teach, about filing schedule C's and quarterly payments? Or just how to do the 4 lines of add/subtract?
Whelpthisisawkward2
I'd favor an overall simplification of taxes. They're only complicated so that companies can sell you software to make it easier.
wipethatfaceoffyourheadbitch
Focus on core subjects is more important imo. Most people don’t have complicated tax returns so it wouldn’t benefit many to burn a whole 1/2
wipethatfaceoffyourheadbitch
class on it. Budgeting is pretty simple algebra (+/-). A quick lesson in more effective budgeting and investing would be good for all. 2/2
blainetog
No, we should just make the government do our taxes for us. The only reason we do it ourselves is to give H&R Block a chance to grift us.
HistoriesOfXandY
The tax code changes pretty regularly, so even if you learned it that information might not be good. Basic economic literacy is what ya want
SuperRockinMrMagic
Did they not teach arithmetic and algebra at your school? Tools are there just have to apply them now
DavidBrooker
Most schools / curriculums do. I'm assuming most think it isn't taught because no class was called 'taxes' and they didn't pay attention.
MrMineHeads
Just fucking learn it yourself or use any of the hundreds of free programs. It really isn't rocket science.
abrahammabraham11524
yallmfsneedjesus
Most do but kids dont remember because it was done in the classic blow off class called Home Ec.
imapencil
For 95% of the people, all they need to do their taxes is basic math, basic reading, basic computer literacy, and some time.
DavidBrooker
Taxes seem to be either 'trivially easy' or 'retain a professional accountant' with very few people in the middle.
chemed
My HS teaches personal finance as part of Econ/business
Zanzetuken
Mine had us play a sim where we owned a convenience store. Guess which one of those would've been more useful?
tootsie87
We did too and I graduated 05. Consumer ed had budgeting, balance checkbook, stocks/investing, touched on taxes, ammortization calculating
insegrevious
I learned taxes and how to write a check and balancing your budget and many home care things in -Home Economics-.
thegregorious
Yeah we had a class that was part cooking/baking and part taxes and balancing checkbooks and budgets
insegrevious
It was an elective, one of the reasons I actually signed up back then was "checks", and I wanted to know how to do checks.
insegrevious
Surprising how many other things were taught that I used in my adult life. I believe these classes are/have been still available, but
Stampedeo
They probably did, I know they did at my school. Thought taxes, stuff on stock and did mock job applications and interviews.
Tonberryc
My high school had us fill out a 1040 one time in a US government class using fake information. That was the extent of my tax education.
swatz
Economics. We did the same.
ChrisYourself
Mine only taught apps and interviews, they stopped at taxes
wyccha
we didnt even get that at ours, personal finance was optional until very recently at my district, nothing about apps and interviews
SomeDetroitGuy
Remember those basic algebra classes everyone whined about how they'd never use it? That's taxes.
BunterTheMage
It’s also demonstrably useful? Like even high schoolers know everybody pays taxes
ChrisYourself
Yes, that's calculating taxes now they need to teach how to file your taxes and everything else associated with it
EngineerforPresident
Or maybe we should get to the root of the problem and deal with the overly complex tax system that was lobbied for by TurboTax and H&R Block
ChrisYourself
That's the ideal solution but it'll be awhile before that changes
Dhalmelpunch
nero4ty2
it's literally just filling out a form or going to a website, and all the instructions are given for how to fill out the form
EngineerforPresident
Maybe if there have been zero changes in your life during that year, or perhaps if you don’t live in America.
nero4ty2
even if there have been a ton of changes, it's just filling out different parts of the form
BunterTheMage
And we still teach algebra, dude. And some of us liked it and learned a lot. So why not attempt to teach taxes?
BunterTheMage
How the fuck is “let’s teach kids more things” a controversial opinion, guys?
DefinitelyNotMadeOfBees
The point is you already learned how to do taxes. If you can do basic math, you can do taxes. It's not hard.
theVAsucks365
This is the exact statement people make to the CPA as they are getting audited. LMAO. CPA's have a place for no reason, am I right?! Hahaha
DefinitelyNotMadeOfBees
Yeah but the average person doesn't really need that. And if you think you might (eg you have substantial investments), do some reading.
ChrisYourself
There's a lot more to it than just calculating taxes is the problem
Dagordae
Are you running a business? No? Then there’s not. Follow the written instructions, do basic math, taxes done.
nero4ty2
for the majority of people it's just filling in a few lines on a form
SciGuy
There really isn't, unless you've got a business.