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Jul 1, 2024 9:27 PM
Rammsteinstochter
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DALLASLAVOWNER
Orange cat: "Huzzah, he caught it!" Black cat: "No you dumdass, thats a leaf" Orange cat: "oh right...but hey, he caught it!" Black cat: "Ugh, I give up. Im out.."
henryv1598
Way to go, Larry!
kaijuuGold
larry the vegetarian you crazy for that one larry
TerribleAwful
classic larry
The22ndDoctor
That was definitely a butterfly that was killed and flattened by Larry.
IWantToHugEveryCat
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
"Look guys, I'm a human hurr durr. I eat plant durr"
jesseCandyBaroness
Ah, the indoor/outdoor cat debate. The picture & text do not detail the exact nature of the cat’s outdoor excursion. Yes, cats can be incredibly dangerous to the wildlife and to themselves if given a free range. My neighbor has a wonderful cat that he has as an indoor/outdoor cat, in a secured and fenced in back yard. I see him checking the yard regularly for its security. The cat gets to enjoy being outside without the danger to its self or others, do we have to condemn everything?
Sebastopol140
larry lacks the skills but has the will. Good start Larry.
Hemelsblauw
I prefer him catching leaves instead of birds.
trumpypumpyinyourrumpy
The other brothers are impressed. Larrys like no big deal bros. My hunting skills are plain to see, gosh.
thedudeman519
Other cats like "How much you wanna bet I can hock a hairball over that mountain ?"
wodensday
I am shocked that in a cat situation with two voids and an orange, it isn’t the orange who is named Larry
mtyree42101
Did anyone else see a 3 eyed cat at first? No? Me neither.
SomeOneHasBeenLookingForYou
I'd much rather a leaf than dead or half dead rodents and birbs in your shoe or on the pillow
247Lurker
Level21Magikarp
No one saw. Still counts.
TheShoggothOfMosquitoCreek
Attacking plants seems funny now, but nobody will be laughing when the killer triffids invade.
thedudeman519
Looks right up my alley
Quichita
I loved that book! I didn’t know it was a movie!!! Eeeeeeee. Now I will search ceaselessly until I watch it.
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
https://youtube.com/watch?v=8hVUuRAAF_s - there's been other versions
FrostyLady
Potentially unpopular opinion: Cats are an invasive species and incredibly damaging to the local ecosystem; they SHOULD NOT be allowed to roam free outdoors. :/
I love my kitteh, but she does not get to go out and kill birds and small mammals, nope. Leash only.
AngryHelpdeskAgent
Not to mention they can get killed by vehicles, other predators, or evil people
CanadianLadyMoose
This is the way. Why own a pet if they can’t be responsible for it? It’s lazy and dangerous. All my friends with cats take them for walks (Protip: get them used to wearing their harness at home with no leash, just lounging about. It can be too stressful to mix used to that and a leash all in one go!)
N000dle
It highly depends on where you live
onecatnokids
Cats who live outdoors live on average about 3-4 years due to diseases, etc.
SciencePetsComputers
Just to expand on the danger : Feline immune Virus(FIV, kitty HIV) and Feline Leukemia virus spread through bites. Other than cars and other animals you have cat haters as a danger as well. To top it all off, cats have horrible kidneys making a large amount of things lethally toxic to them, including pollen from the True lilly family and dog flea/tick treatments(permethrin when wet does to cats what it does to insects)
FrostyLady
It is DEFINITELY less safe for them :( vehicles; depending on where you live, predators like coyotes.
"Outdoor cats" just should not be a thing for so many reasons, in my opinion.
xsculder
Put a bell on het collar. Thats what i do with my two cats. Scares away the prey.
ExorionPremier
Putting a collar on an outdoor cat is breaking rule n1 of letting a cat roam outside. They get stuck with collars and die all the time.
munkis
Got 4 bells on ours, he got good at walking quietly with one. Hasn't caught a bird since but sure brings us lots of mice torn in half. Good boy
TheHappyFrenchCanadian
Seem a bit extreme no? As long as as they can't freely reproduce they won't become invasive. As for damaging for the ecosystem, we the Human have totally destroyed thousand of ecosystem blaming the cats for eating mice seems like a stretch and a gross redirection of the actual problem, just my take
mouthfullofpebbles
It may seem extreme at first thought, but sadly cats already are an invasive species in many places, and have been the prime reason for extinction. And Felis catus (the pet cat) IS one of the ways we humans have used to destroy ecosystems. It isn't the cat that did it, it was US who brought them. So it's OUR responsibility to try to lessen the damage. Using a leash on a pet that has a super strong prey drive is the least we can do.
TheHappyFrenchCanadian
I agree with you as long as human are pointed as the real problem here because it is, feral cats decimated a population of bird in your town? A bunch of human released them without the operation. Feral dogs roaming the streets? People giving up on there dog. An invasion of rats in your town? We created perfect condition for them, it's us the problem
mouthfullofpebbles
Exactly. I don't hate cats, I only want human responsibility. I realize that cats are a great resource as vermin control if you farm for example (but there are other natural predators that often can do as good a job, for example inviting owls by providing habitats), but if you don't farm then the cat is most likely a pet, and one of the most important responsibilities of pet ownership is making sure they don't cause harm.
TheHappyFrenchCanadian
Right on ^_^
burpwind
Keep your cats inside.
StrawberriesandSunshine
Or at least supervised. (My cat LOVES outside. But the birdies/wildlife are safe!)
friendofafriendofyourfriend
My cousin's cat liked going out a lot. One day she slipped from a roof, not sure if she was fighting another cat or something, but fell and broke her hip. The recovery was very slow and her quality of life declined quite a bit, she can move but with difficulty, which gave her weight issues among other things. Please be careful with your cats!
Frederf
Keep your children in the basement for the same reason.
pimt665
Or let them roam the streets unsupervised
Frederf
Exactly
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NotAPervert
Outside cats endanger ecosystems with bird hunting. Cats are awesome but not that part.
kletskoek
??
NotAPervert
They were saying indoors isn’t devoid of danger to cats
kletskoek
Yes, that’s what I found confusing
Moose79
70% of the cats affecting the bird population in NA are feral or unowned. There are 50-160 million feral cats, 80% live in urban areas. Housecats are not the problem.
pacanukeha
inside only cats live longer. fuck the birds, I don't want my cats getting run over and/or eaten
burpwind
You can jam that made up bullshit fair up your arse.
Moose79
*Easily Google-able fact pertaining to my location*
pimt665
What about the dangers to the cat? Disease, cars, native predators, poison, cruel people.
burpwind
Or people who value wildlife.
Moose79
Yeah if you think it's unsafe in your area but some cats like to explore and it's totally safe for them to do so, always spay or neuter your pets tho, the problem is homeless pets it's very sad but nearly 400 million dog and cats die every year on the street in just the USA, we should be looking after all the homeless pets and people. Start a program to give homeless people homes and pets to go along with em
pimt665
It's never safe. Ever. It can be resolved with leash training the cats or building a cattio though. And yeah, I agree with you, stray pets shouldn't exist in an ideal world. Your idea sounds great tbh, I love it. We have the same problem in my country, lots of stray or totally negleted pets that are left outside all the time. And when the animal dies or gets sick, people just get a "new" one :(
burpwind
The problem is the fucking things kill wildlife and shit and piss on people's stuff.
AShartInTheWind
Intact housecats are. Besides, 30% is nothing to scoff at.
Moose79
In the grand scheme of things, it kind of is, especially when there are only about 42 million cats as pets in the US and there are 10-20 billion birds in the US alone, about 1-3 billion die a year from both feral and housecats combined. So, about 2.1 billion birds are killed by feral cats every year. Less than a billion by housecats.
It's like if a Elon Musk-rat spent 900k on a boat, he would barely notice it leaving his bank account.
AShartInTheWind
If a virus had a 30% mortality rate, societies would collapse.
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Moose79
Yeah, and if 30% of astriods entering the atmosphere impacted, we would have some serious problems.
LittleLionMan63
30% of a population of living creatures could repopulate the entire species. It is not comparable to money. 30% is massive in species conservation.
Moose79
30% of 20 billion is 6 billion. 4<6. If you live on an island your making a valid point, if you live on a massive land mass, house cats kill about as many birds as cars do. Feral or owned cats are the problem. Spay or neuter your pets.
LittleLionMan63
Dude you lost this fight before you typed your first letter. Every study ever done on the subject shows that domestic cats are the driving factor for the extinction of many native species. And even IF your stats are true, the 30% is still a massive contributing factor and can breed with the other 70% increasing the problem further. Just keep your fucking cat inside.
Moose79
Except when you look and see that 900 million birds die by car related injuries every year. Just keep your car inside.
pimt665
Also this is not a competition
pimt665
1.3 to 3.7 BILLION bird and 6.3 to 22.3 BILLION mammal deaths by cats. Just in the US. Drive responsibly and don't let your cats freeroam
pimt665
Also yes, using cars to go everywhere is complete bullshit. But if you are talking about the US, as far as I remember you have no trains/bike lanes/busses/sidewalks, I am really sorry about your lack of human-friendly transportation infrastructure.
Moose79
Buddy, did you look at the stats because 70% of 3.7 billion is 2.6 billion, and 30% is 1.1 billion. Cars are literally more deadly to the bird population than your pet cats. Feral or owned ones are the issue.
Also, 3.7 billion birds are still less than 20% of the bird population of North America. We kill more birds with habit loss and pesticides than cats could ever even dream about. Keep humans inside, too.
Leaps
30% more birds sounds pretty good. Keep your cats inside. And spay and neuter them too.
Moose79
I mean, a lot of other stuff eats/kills small birds they're pretty low on the eco-web. Even other small birds kill other small birds, butcher birds, and such.
pimt665
The thing about cats is that their saliva contains bacteria that is deadly to wildlife and nasty overall, even for us. So the smallest, invisible skin lesion can kill a bird in less than 24 hours. Now think about nesting season, when juvenile birds are on the ground and learning to fly. A cat comes, plays a bit with all the fledglings, leaves without eating or mangling any of them. The next day, the entire nest is dead, and basically an whole generation of birds is wiped out in a few minutes
Moose79
How would a flightless bird get back into the nest? Also, how would it not sustain an injury of some sort if it fell out of the tree? I've also never seen wild birds in good health, let a cat anywhere near them, let alone play with them. This seems like a huge "what if?" Way more likely to just eat the thing or kill it than this happening.
Leaps
Sure they do, and we try to control other invasive species too.
Moose79
It's not just invasive predators, they are literally prey for dozens of native wildlife. Other native birds just kill each other over competition to resources, that's why some species have like 6 nests during mating season,
Also, predator birds will totally kill a cat, hawks or eagles or falcons, or some owls, I also think vultures might have a shot.