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sonnydojo
Ah imgur, where science and disorders don't exist, child abuse is good, and south park is still fresh.
WhatRaySay
and those methods produced the wonderful array of bitter, resentful, hopelessly ignorant adults who just put a juvenile manchild into office
LiterallyYourMom
I love when people use South Park to support their arguments, not realizing South Park is using satire to directly criticize them.
Cloudfallxx
When I acted out in elementary school, i'd just get timeout and sit facing the corner.
HurrdurrdurrdurrHODOR
I was biking home and saw a father hit his little child in the face. I had no idea what to do :( poor child
elliedoodles
We also once used bloodletting to cure ailments. Thank goodness we let the scientific method determine what's good medical practice.
TheAnswerWasAlwaysMoreLube
SATIRE ALERT!
fentanylpush
Yinyang107
Hooray, I'm useful! I'm having a wonderful time.
JakobThor
Thats a upvotin? Thats a paddlin.
WhatTheDormouseSaid
That's an upvote
boobphysicist
TheVelureFog
You better believe that's an upvoting
MisterEcal
Gotta adjust for larger class sizes.
mrmeeseekslookatmee
My parents taught me to emulate their patience rather than lashing out physically when frustrated or unable to cope
StevenQUrkel
Really? My parents essentially told me to stop being a p***y when I came home crying after being bullied.
And mine told me to defend myself and that most bullies model their behavior from home so feeling sorry for them might be a consideration
AHorticulturistIsJustANerdyGardener
Of only slapping a kids actually changed brain chemistry.
SirBrendan
America, stop it. You stop it right now. You know what you're doing, and you're doing it on purpose.
roxyamused
yeah, positive reenforcement is better.
brainplay
High on emotion, short on science. https://www.sciencenews.org/blog/growth-curve/debate-over-spanking-short-science-high-emotion
BrockenSpectre
Yeah turns out this didnt work.
Eeko390
See, I was spanked as a kid, and it didn't teach me respect or even right from wrong. It taught me that hurting someone was a valid (1/2)
form of argument. If you disagree with someone, just instill them with enough fear so they'll never do anything ever again. (2/2)
Argondey
One of the important ways punishments like this go wrong is teaching the wrong lesson. Personally I just learned to never allow my 1/2
parents to learn anything that would cause them to punish me. I ended up making every choice in life they didn't want me to, but by the 2/?
time they ever found out about it, it was far too late for them to do anything about. Granted I still stand by most of those choices, 3/4
but they are definitely not what my parents would have wanted for me. 4/4
ShmooThaSchmuck
Ah yes, the scientifically proven method of creating asshole adults!
wofulunicycle
What annoys me is people who say things like: "You don't spank your kids?! Ever?" as if I'm some kind of deviant that needs intervention.
SuzetteTheSmoreSchnappsGirl
or how about I stop being called an abusive parent for actually disciplining my child?
How about I won't tell you not to spank your kids if you don't tell me to spank mine? PS if you lay a hand on my kid I will ruin your life.
thanatos777
Imgur sure does love hitting kids.
Iamblaine
and women
PeakyBIinder
Cause they deserve it. Some of us dont like raising pussies.
EndersGame
You sound like a cunt, and I'm sure your children will be cunts too
No, my children will respect me more. No one here is talking about beating children daily just when they fuck up how else are they going to
Understand consequences of their actions
you can do that without hitting them
respect through violence? yep youre a cunt
Coogizephyr
Although funny, hopefully parents don't get too surprised when their kids use violence to solve their problems too. #Justlearningbyexample
danielpkendrick
Do you know of this actually happening? Violent people who are violent because of no other factors than having been *responsibly* spanked?
Purplegill10
I unfortunately do. He managed to get over it eventually after getting therapy.
I'm 33, was spanked, turned out fine and I respect it. I have 3 kids, and they get occasional spanks too. I'm not at all worried
IHateOrange
So you, as an adult, still use violence to solve your problems.
taghashtag
People don’t get it. He says he turned out fine but to my eyes he uses violence against his own children. Doesn’t sound fine to me.
Funtclaps
Don't know how you lot are so forgiving. My parents were physical with me; now I deny them access to their grandson.
dexterousgek
I sense other issues than just them spanking you.
Icallitbullshit
And right so
I love that this is angering child abusers; I'm getting constant "this post has 10 points!" spam to my phone as the votes go up and down.
bonanox
Puzzy
They obviously didnt hit you enough!
I often feel that way, which I'm told is a result of the abuse I received. Fuck me, right?
My comment was just a joke so I wanted to apologize as j dont know what kind of childhood you had. But i kinda appreciate my parents hit me
God you people are fucking stupid
Yupurineutah
Yerp.
agreed. reading these comments gave me a headache.
Medwards86
As a father of an autistic child with diagnosed ADHD if someone touched my kid like this I would beat the ever-living fuck out of them.
CascadianTwilight
thank you
Krzyjoe
As someone who supports spanking, you shouldn't be downvoted for this. Real mental issues are valid, people.
Correct. It's easy to mistake a kid who is "being an ass" with one who has underlying issues.
SAWhowhatnow
Why do you support beating kids? Are you really so stupid you can't figure out how to talk to a child? Or are you just too lazy to do it?
There's a big difference between spanking a kid and beating them. Are you really too stupid to know that?
Then give me the exact difference in PSI or fuck off, you child abusing coward.
Don't know what PSI is, but me getting spanked didn't produce an angry keyboard gremlin such as yourself, so there's a positive.
that's why you do both. explain why you spanked them. "I told you to stop kicking me multiple times and that deserves punishment"
"Mommy hit you because she isn't smart enough to raise you right, and she's a coward that knows you can't fight back." -Suzette to her kid
SergeantOldSchool
If a kid got a paddlin' at school today, parent's head would
SnorkeldinkCameltoe
aDefenseless9yearOldGirl
28 years ago if my kindergarten teacher had hit me my parents would have flipped the fuck out.
That long ago, if I came home without a paddlin', my mom would give me one because my teachers didn't catch whatever I did that day.
GoodGameYoungLad
Well did u do stuff the days you weren't caught?
I don't know what you're talking about. I was an absolute angel and the highlight of my teacher's career.
Well your mom sounds like a lunatic.
Thank you for your kind words.
WhatTheFrench
I spanked my kid when he was little, but I would lose my shit if a teacher did it, you betcha.
First day of school, my mom met all my teachers and told them that she EXPECTED them to. That's the way it was back then.
I don't trust their judgement today. Spent last year with a loony teacher who contacted me over minor issues and wanted my kid (1/2)
AppleFoster
Glad you ignored her. Many times parents dive right into shitty advice "because a teacher said it."
evaluated for ADHD medication over minor attention issues that didnt exist before her and vanished with a different teacher this year. (2/2)
rocketman89
You would think so but still legal in many US states https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_corporal_punishment_in_the_United_States
Legal? Yes. Practiced? Only in the most rural of schools, where parents actually still discipline at home, too, AND back the school paddlin'
Yeah, you're right about that but still pretty crazy we haven't nailed down the whole "physically abuse schoolchildren" thing legally yet.
See, therein lies the problem. Discipline does not equal abuse. A firm thwack across the buttcheeks - discipline. Across the head? Abuse.
Well, if the parent approves of someone else hitting their child then more power to them.
Back then, if you came home and told your mom that you got a paddlin', the first thing she would say was "what did you do to earn it"
lemonfluff
Is imgur really full of bitter, conservative "back in my day" types?
honestb
Shit like this, or making fun of feminists, or lecturing black people to pull up their pants always gets upvoted.
pettyreprobate
yes.
Mithi
Culture of Violence
lanceconstablebluejohn
It hasn't always been this way, i want to know what happened to take it so downhill
cowarddogcourage
Wrong. It was like this before the tumblrinas took over imgur. Guess the original imgurians are trying to take their site back.
Indactil
Yeah... No. You don't know what the fuck your talking about
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA you're going to MAKE IMGUR GREAT AGAIN. whatever you say, champ
Wastyvez
Yep. Apparantly people still think it's okay to hit children as discipline, because that's how they got disciplined when they were young...
Because for the entirety of human history until a few years ago, people have been disciplined physically and humanity has carried on.
LegitPoptart
I think its okay, as long as the kids truly deserves it, you warned them several times, and u never hit the face, i think its fine
goodgodgetagripgirl
And yet, applying that same logic to hitting an adult is battery. It's almost as if hitting people is bad.
peanutbutterandham
Can you hit a coworker when they screw something up a few times over? No that's called assault and it's no different just bc it's your kid
Yes there is lol. Thats your coworker not your kid you mean nothing to him so it is called assault.
Seriously people wtf
idclimbhimlikeatree
Well I cant fire my kid.
Haha! Touché
chuckinnnpoppin
Please do tell under want circumstances a child, who is 1/20th of your size, who depends on your love to get food, deserves to be hit? Ffs
inmat
vsauce's video 'why do we kiss' is semi-related and explains why so many people believe they turned out fine.
Thank you. These are the responses, reasoning and understanding I expect in 2017 not, "damn snowflakes not letting me hit my kids".
TayTay051
damn snowflakes not letting me hit my kids
Yeah it's just funny cuz I'm no where near a feminist or an swj, but fureal don't hit people who want your approval more than food and water
StinyZ
I got spanked as a kid. I hated it. But if my parents told me to stop or I'd get spanked, I listened. I'm not bitter, I'm grateful my 1/2
b00mh34d5h0t
I got spanked as a kid with branches over my whole body now im a drug addict failure hah
Yes, but you also grew up thinking it was ok to physically abuse children that can't fight back. So it seems like it wasn't worth it.
U1Love
It taught you to fear authority and to work like sheep for your corporate masters. Your parents taught you to wear a collar like a dog!
IDontWantToSetTheWorldOnFire
Its people like you who have those awful kids that scream for no reason and wreck shit while you just look at your phone.
LiquidMilk
Lot of judgment going on in a thread limited to 140 characters per comment
Itinerate
Don't talk to me, dog. I don't talk to dogs, only humans. Humans who stand up and defend our country like patriots, you unamerican dog.
I bet you're proud of yourself because this is the first comeback that you felt didn't need proofreading by your mother to confirm your wit.
This is the best response you got? SAD! As low energy as Jeb!
Genotex
...do you need somebody to talk to about those issues of yours?
The only person I need to talk to is God and the Republic. I don't have justify my actions to anyone else.
spankythedog
fencerman
I'm sure any kind of abusive threat would get the same effect. That doesn't make it not abusive.
hank2247
As someone who is legally still a child, It's not fucking abuse. It's discipline, and there is a difference.
So then get your ass over here for speaking rudely to your elders.
There's a difference between elders and superiors
How regularly do your parents still beat your ass?
And there's a difference between disagreeing with someone and being a rude little brat.
my parents loved me enough to teach me to behave and respect authority. 2/2
michonnedisapproves
Did my parents not "love me enough"then because they taught that hitting the tv won't make it work?
missmalice
I got spanked as a kid. Now I'm married to my Dom and spanking is one of my tamer kinks. Can't complain. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
PhilKenSebban
With my dad it was just the threat of violence was enough. Once he sent me to my room so I kicked a pillow (total badass) in a second 1/2
he was across the room and in my face and just said "room, now". After that never really played up around him. Good fathering.
theashman69
Yep. Your parents are exactly that. Your parents. Not your friends.
revcleo
I got spanked as a kid, it just taught me to be craftier.
Rarely spanked, I'z rarely naughty. What would have worked way more would be just talking me through stuff. My brother who was naughtier
than me (stuff like throwing parts of his kens at me and once throwing a metal bar? he was like 7) was hilariously scared of being smacked.
So just the threat of it by my parents would upset him, he said he was allergic since his skin went red, haha. What stopped him being a dick
isweatergawd
spanking had the same effect for me.
But you learned something. ;)
Such as how to sneak downstairs on the outside of the banister instead of taking the squeaky stairs.
MajorLeagueFister
Outside the box thing and creative problem solving skills, I like it.
WhiteRabbit86
My parents loved me enough to not hit me.
waldosbabe
With that attitude, they probably should have.
A spanking isn't hitting, mate.
The fuck it isn't.
It literally is. ..
Dexx000
Aww...isn't that special...
finallystoppedlurkingonimgur
Ha! Our special little whiterabbit86
Never in any legal trouble, good job, happily married, large house, fast car, room full of vintage guitars. I've done alright.
Mayonnaiseisainstrument
How does this guy get so many downvotes, since when is it a bad thing to not use violence?
Momolicious
It's because he/she/Apache helicopter implied that our parents didn't love us if they spanked us.
you guys know there are other ways right
MarkyBoyAce
For a month I've tried to get my 3 yr old to stop hitting his older sister. Finally lost it and gave him a smacked backside and he 1/2
batmanfreak64
I just say to my husband, "bring me the hanger" and my son eats like it's his last meal.
TheVainyKnight
He asked for the rusty jumper cables
NazgulJim
I never got hit as a Child. But i still had an insane respekt for my Mother and father. But they were guiding parents. Not teenage friends
Fyrebaugh
Not every infraction requires physical punishment. For many children just being led properly is enough. 1/2
That doesn't mean that physical punishment is not needed at all. Just as a last resort or for actions that need a complete and total stop.
BlindyBlindMansSonnySon
I taught my toddler to stay away from the cooker by slapping the back of his hand every-time he touched it, hurts us more than them
MistyNoble
I do the same with light sockets plus a loud scream to scare the hell out of him.
it has to be done, I'm not the type of person to beat the hell out of my kid but I'm not above giving a spanking if he deserves it.
I agree. I love my son more than life itself and it definitely hurts me more than him. But, I'm happy he's alive and not electrocuted.
TheNax
Great, you created the next BTK. Gheeez
MrJackedBroccoli
My mother was always a tiny lady. But to this day I can still feel the inhuman death grip on my forearm when I really messed up as a kid.
Which was usually followed by a smack on the butt.
So u too have experienced the superhuman strength of an angry mother
superbadonkey
2/2 looked me dead in the eyes and said "harder mommy"
WhiteKnighted
Geez dude. Fine, +1.
OneWingedWolf
This is going to be one of those subcomments that outscores the original comment.
StonedBoneMalone
http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/e7/e7a8e4961f6f087fb99c3b691a590f6a6c7e22a69e978e18ccb3dbca8fa6b092.jpg
SebastianCrab
PornHubOfficial
Yes!
I was seriously confused for a atm, had to check usernames. good one!
thisismyusernameanditsucks
Glad I checked the usernames..
JeffreyBarter
Beats me, I do not get it.
Sh4dowWalker96
Different people.
therealpaul9
I'm glad that you checked the usernames. :o
Jestantay
I'm glad that you're glad.
SDOMO
Im glad that you're.
TheScarletBitch
I know this is a joke, but my son did something similar. He thinks spankings are hilarious. We use time outs for him now.
abacab87
I can remember when I first realized that spankings didn't hurt.
serpentinebaboo
Hit him harder. Laughed at my dad once as a kid. Once.
Time outs are much more cruel for him. He's the definition of an extrovert. Being alone in his room is brutal torture.
SweetStache
I feel spanking and beating kids are 2 totally different things. No shame in a few spankings every now and again!
chrishallett83
Only fucking idiots don't know the difference a disciplinary smack and beating a child.
grimfandango
My dad would spank me when I crossed a line. I see my friend's kids sometimes and think they should try it. Theirs cross that line all day.
MadAsAFrickenHatter
Part of the reason I don't want kids. I'm afraid I'd beat the living crap out of them.
Well u definitely don't wanna do that
You're right. Id go to jail
ishouldnothavesaidthat
My dad didn’t. You’ll be fine.
LandonSlayz
I said the exact same thing. There's a difference between dragging a kid across a room and giving a firm smack when they wont be reasonable.
Hasn't done it since. Go figure.
CHICKINGNUGGER
Now he understands how it feels.
Wow. How retarded are you that you can't figure out how to talk to a child?
Timothytheterrible
Violence is universally understood
DankeBrutus
As someone who has worked with children, talking doesn't always work. If the kid doesn't learn to respect authority nothing you say works
If you can't handle the slightest bit of difficulty without resorting to beating a child you're too retarded to work with children.
I realise I actually commented on the wrong thread. I have never hit a kid, but I can tell which kid had firm or lenient parents
A smack on the ass is not beating a child. Honestly, how old are you?
He will probably remember that moment for the rest of his life. Up to the point where you are the one who throws tantrums and uses diapers.
ehhidunno
My daughter bit the shit out of my leg and I reflexively threw her across the room. I felt terrible but she never bit again. Go figure.
Irish1228
Agree. My nephew was 4-5 or so and bit my mother once. She gave him a stern but not hard open handed pop in the mouth. He never bit again.
Arcian
No, instead he's going to "pop" his own children whenever they step out of line.
+1 but not necessarily. One love tap from a loving mother can seem so traumatic that a kid can behave and never do it to their child.
d3jake
That is one possibility, yes.
TheThoroughbredOfSinBadHorse
When I bit my siblings, my mom bit me back. I didn't bite very many times.
I used to pull hair. One day my mum gave a little tug to my hair, I cried for a little bit, never pulled hair again.
Yep, not saying it was the right thing for my mom to do, but it worked.
Saytin666
Guaranteed that he will again. You just taught him that hitting is ok. He just won't want to be on the receiving end.
WallieWhale
-145 points havn't seen that before
Potaterzpotateyo
That's when you get out the jumper cables
ThePhoenix204
Vurmalkin
... hitting him once is saying hitting is ok?
KrackWrinkle
You are a dumbass
Not really
FoxySpirit
As someone who was hit by his sibling, I disagree.Though then we went Judo, hated it, sibling promised to never hit me again for no Judo :-P
SweetieMcSugarbomb
We found the person who's not a parent and/or who has a "special snowflake"
Found the pussy who's only brave enough to hit a child.
Whereas you are normalizing the physical abuse of children who can't defend themselves. I mean, for fuck sake.
JohnnyTitelips
@Saytin666 when he sees someone parenting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBipMHCUXjo
It's sad that we live in a society in which it is perfectly legal to assault the only people who have no power to do anything about it.
It's not assault, it's spanking. Grow up and shed the safe space mentality.
RoombaTheAssaultVacuum
Not at all guaranteed. A child's mind doesnt work like that. Sometimes a small amount of physical discipline is absolutely necessary.
Pulling a child away from a hot stove or pushing them out of the way of an oncoming car, sure. Beating them as punishment? Not so much.
There's a fine line between beating and discipline. A spanking is discipline. A closed fist with a pop to the face is beating.
JudgeMentalCat
You know, Imgur likes science until science tells them they need to stop hitting their kids.
LoTRFanatic42
Yeah I think OP (and everyone upvoting this) completely missed the fact that South Park is satirical. They're not actually supporting this.
yodaisnotgod
Satire is using humor to prove a point. They're definitely supporting it in a roundabout way.
https://www.sciencenews.org/blog/growth-curve/debate-over-spanking-short-science-high-emotion
cleverbeans
This is manufactured controversy. The American Psychiatric and Pediatric associations have consensus on both its harm and uselessness.
wertetet
Amazing how many here approve of hitting a child.
Just a sad reflection of how many people out there were hit when they were kids. It takes a very long time to change a culture at that level
Sasarious
"Worked for me"
http://www.newser.com/story/224147/study-spanking-is-nearly-as-damaging-as-child-abuse.html
ASFEFZZFF
http://www.nature.com/news/over-half-of-psychology-studies-fail-reproducibility-test-1.18248
So good to know this wasn't one study, but a multi-decade analysis of many studies conducted on the same subject
It doesn't change the fact that these studies are probably not reproductible.
SIrEvilMustache
Serveral studies, over several decades, but not reproductible? Do you know what that word means???
Well I'll put it like this if ppl are so concerned about how I raise my kids then they can come and provide for then but until that day 1)
I will discipline my kids if needed because I refuse to have them grow up into a disrespectful out of control asshole
ElbowDeepinaTinyOctopus
Yeah, wouldn't want them to be the sort of disrespectful, out of control asshole who strikes children.
Oh look another imgur child care expert
Sad the two options you see are "be a bad parent" and "be a worse parent" don't hit your kids.
And what exactly makes me a bad parent? Because I discipline my children when I need to?
No but discipline with violence is unethical and ineffective. You teach them that violence is acceptable if youre bigger and stronger.
seedye
I had wild foster kids for 5 yrs, and wasn't allowed to spank. We used ideas from the book "123 Magic" which helped a lot.
Your kids will probably be fine, but if you could get the same results w/o spanking, why would you want to?
parents get a rush from hitting their children. it makes THEM feel better. they vent their anger on their offspring. that's not healthy.
LostInIndonesia
Talk to them and set a good example for them. Don't hit them.
The dude can barely type, you really think he's smart enough to talk to a kid?
Lol and what happens wen they openly defy you after you have told them something over and over? Let me guess u send em to timeout huh
So you're so stupid you can be easily outwitted by a toddler and your only response is to smack them for being smarter than you? Seems legit
Different things work for different children. Explore different options and try things out. No parent is perfect. Just try to be a better 1
Yes, because I'm not a child abuser.
stickemwiththepointyend
I got paddled in kindergarten for throwing a crayon at another kid. How do you think that would go over nowadays?
Poorly. Once they found out spanking doesn't work and has the same outcomes as child abuse it started to get unpopular.
IllegalDuckling
I threw sand into a kid's face and didn't get any punishment. I got his girl, though.
FreaksOnWheels
My kindergarten teacher as se was spanking a child 'does your mother ever spank you? Well she should!' It was terrifying.
russrob84
I got paddled for not knowing multiplication even though I was sick for a week and missed the lessons on that....some teachers are retarded
Imjustameatpopsicle
I got into a full blown fist fight with my 9th grade PE teacher. Neither of us got in trouble for it.
Jelmddddddddddddd
Scolded in oil
Ha!
iputthefiresout
I made a propeller with my ruler and pencil. I was hot with said ruler. Nuns are fun.
HailTide
I got a referral for throwing an origami frog to my friend didn't hit him..landed a foot away from him. Teacher freaked out on me.
spratacuss
I got my sideburns yanked for not listening. i'd take a paddling anytime.
Bsdemigod
You would be expelled and the teacher/parent would be arrested.
Vyrro
Today you r parents would probably sue and parlay their newfound riches on quinoa and kale
Wowyouknowwhatsomanyusernamesaretakenthesedays
I once fell asleep in class, and was woken by a slap. What was worse is when they told my dad, and he beat me with some jumper cables.
I adore you, thank you.
MrWookloaf
My teacher wouldnt knock me around. But she would let my dad know i was a shit and he'd do it for them.
BigMissedSteak
me and a friend of mine got bored in drama so we sat at the back and pulled a chair apart (we didnt break the chair it was already (1/2)
disassembled so we sharpened the dowels on the brick mortar and acted out Hamlet act 5 scene 2. (2/2)
Yeah pretty much
GotABitSilly
Once, I got a paddling in kindergarten for sleeping on my side during naptime instead of on my stomach. My teacher was actually scarring.
Some "teachers" need to have an unfortunate accident with a broken wrist they won't discuss.
hardytardigrade
You'd probably throw the crayon harder and with greater accuracy.
rubbarz
Whole school would get sued by a mom 3 counties over
DanNeedsLoveToo
"What am I gonna do with him? :) "
NinNin1031
In the South they still paddle
Not in my county they don't. Some do, but not all.
Denamic
The person in charge would get sued if she told the kid off. And I say 'she' because men aren't allowed to work with kids.
Janusha
You would cash in on a lawsuit and they would all get fired.
CaptainObviouslikesthemthicc
Depends on the State you live in
EdwardSnowdensNeckMoleIsUnfortunatelyMySpiritAnimal
It would go over way better than paddling some kid that's for fuckin sure.
....what
leadoxide2
No school for the week!
Frankidelic
I got suspended in kindergarten which was 13 years ago ._. I hated being placed on the color red
Calza027
Participation medal
slingdzz
Like a fart in church
JCava
As someone who works for a school, nothing. As a child you wouldn't be reprimanded. Teacher would be escorted out by police and fired.
reallyreallyreal
I got the same treatment... i ripped a loud fart but because i laughed, i got a paddlin.
SluntBiggums
My mom would punch and kick me when I was bad. I still did those things.
SiameseCitys
If I was the parent, I'd assault the teacher.
Word.
had a teacher in primary school who used to make you eat the pencil if you chewed on it and stand in the corner with a dunce hat on 1
until a mother beat her senseless when her kid come home with an upset stomach from ingesting an entire pencil. 2
JoelRG
Tasty.
mynewcharacter
Kids got hit with a ruler when I was in 5th grade. Nobody cared and it was not a big deal at all.
KLUSTENATOR
I got beat or had hard toys thrown at me because they thought I wasn't paying attention or because they saw my eyes were open during naptime
Yeah, and what's with not being allowed to slap your wife around anymore either? /s
darkninja2992
Nah, that's different
Not really. Both are legal in some places, for exactly the same reasons.
Eenie meany chili beany. You can whip your wife if you vote for Khomeini.
How shitty at their job was your teacher that they had to resort to beating a toddler instead of, you know, teaching them?
WhatsAJib
Woah woah woah, a fucking crayon? You brought a lethal weapon to kindergarten? Yeah, we're calling the cops.
ermahgerdawoman
Zero tolerance policy. He might get expelled. I actually know someone with twin boys that fought each other first day of kindergarten.
They were expelled. The parents had to talk the school into letting them stay.
Blinkwriter
You'd get a participation award
superseriouscomments
Might be a hate crime today if the other kid was a different race. Or is that only in South Park?
IPutAHexOnYou4c6f7665206d65
you still remember it, so i guess it had an impact on you, either that 'this is how i should be treated' and that 'this is for my own good'
and the real question is. Do you stand up and shout, or do you sit down and shut up?
TongueTiedLabourerfromtheLandoftheLittlePeople
"The few existing randomized controltrials showed that physical punishment was no more effective than other methods in eliciting compliance"
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3447048/
SidLordoftheFlame
That's actually a really insightful read, thanks for sharing! That's one for a bookmark.
StressedOut
I'll give a +1 for citing actual research. That's rare on Imgur.
utgort
My brother got hung on a coat hook until dad came and got him down. The teacher was thanked and brother never did that again.
RandyReady
The same thing happened to my brother! Teacher hung him by the "fag tag" (sorry, I dont know the real name of the loop on the back of shirt)
I like that idea. Uncomfortable and humiliatinh but not sadistic like a beating.
When my dad went to school it was run by the christian brothers, when he was grown he saw one of them in the street and beat him senseless1
he said they were complete sadists 2
Good on him. Fucking papist Jesuit buggers.
Adambean
threw a crayon? fukkin cunt, you should be hung :p
Right? Absolutely horrid little child I was
savage
SketchNI
Hanged, you uncultured fuckwit!
When I was in kindergarten 28 years ago, a teacher hitting a student would have lost their job and my dad would have fucked them up.
Aussieausti
I fucking wish kids could get paddles or physically punish because jesus there are some cunts in my grade who never learn from punishments
tornbetweenscyllaandcovfefe
Ahahahahahah no
Okay, let's have a mature argument then, why not?
Okay. From someone who had been physically abused by his parents. No. It doesn't work.
Rayve1
Well, you see a fucking paddle is abuse mate. Like jesus christ if you don't see wrong in beating a kid then I dunno what will convince you.
eliporter877
how does adefensless9yearoldgirl attend kindergarten 28 years ago? The math ain't right.
ElieRosethorn
Ghost.
Mikeiller
Time Travel. ... either that or she's really bad at math.
ThatShiftyMonkey
5th grade in '93, part of school registration was a form to allow my parents to opt into allowing corporal punishment with me.
They signed off on it. I never acted up. I had a couple friends that got the paddle at the principal's office though.
The school would give you an award for expressing yourself and you'd be given a safe space.
Ihavewaytoomanyfavoritestosort
It's sad that you're getting upvoted because that is absolutely not true.
I shudder to think about it.
DrKriegersClone
Or it's a federal hate crime if the crayon target differs from the thrower in any demographic.
SneakEFoxxe
Hate to break it to you but that still isnt how it works. It just so happens that kids are no longer the only group you can legally beat up.
catsaregroundowls
I had teachers that threw desks at kids and I graduated in 2010. We weren't snitches though and the kids deserved it
It's true. You can also beat up vegans, because they're not people.
FellhuhnCom
Won't get paddled for throwing a chair at your teacher nowadays.
You will, however, get suspended/expelled.
Not in the schools around here.
Your district is shit, then.
wheresthetoaster
And the teacher would get into trouble if trying to protect themselves and/or other students.
It's a way of teaching compliance no matter the situation to future generations. This is how you get a dystopian future.
totalwiener
Anyone wanna cite an actually situation where a teacher defending themselves got into trouble?
GoDrunkYoureHome
Kid who was actively throwing punches and anything they could get there hands on at the staff and other kids. 2
I don't know about a teacher but my gf used to work for a group home, and the state had one of her coworkers removed after she pushed a 1
Awesummzz
They're exaggerating for effect
I have a few friends that are teachers. They're told to let the kid do whatever and try to protect the other children, but to not lay a 1/2
hand on the one acting. Not for safety of themselves, but for the liability of the school.
nerdycatt
The high school i graduated from in 2000 still used paddling as punishment. When that principal retired, the punishment went with him.
whatwaswrongwithphrasing
My highschool did that too! Class of 2009. I was amazed they were allowed to do that.
imgurliestome
I'm being completely disingenuous here, but which state was your school in?
Tennessee
North Carolina here.
Honest question here- which state was your school in?
North Carolina.
MrsZbornak
When I went to 1 st grade in Turkey in 1988. I had my head slammed against board by teacher for spelling word wrong
CuntFuckBitchShitDickMotherfucker420
D:
MasturGrunt
Why would they teach you how to spell "word" in Turkey?
poorly because we now know that's not a good idea
MrSisterFister
You're suggesting we've proven that spanking is ineffective?
We absolutely have. There's not even a question about it any more, it's a cold hard fact that spanking does nothing positive.
Eh, i have two cousins and spanking is the only punishment that actually works on them
schindig
Dunno why you're being downvoted... You are correct..
I am, please dont take my word for it though, heres a source https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3447048/
That's the same source that "proved" video games and violent movies turn kids into serial killers. Let that sink in for a bit.
Joan Durrant, PhD and Ron Ensom, MSW RSW "proved" video games turn people into killers, backed by 20 years of research, please: link?
cause if you have a source for that I will definitely read it and be open to changing my view
idiotn00b
Yeah, turns out child abuse generally does not have a positive outcome.
Spanking isn't child abuse, at most it's a necessary evil in child discipline
[deleted]
Well if you knew anything about classical conditioning you'd know this has zero to do with negative reinforcement. It is a punishment.
SuckAnElf
That's what they used to say about husbands hitting their wives back in the day too
Prove it. Show me the scientific studies, because I can absolutely show dozens that prove the opposite.
cardman
Bet you didn't throw any more crayons either.
Dorsk84
Proof it works.
digitalutopia
The trouble is - solving problems through violence is easy, while actually raising a child can be difficult. It becomes tempting to solve /1
all problems through this method - counting on the idea that what makes it so easy (i.e. fear), will continue regardless. But if it gets /2
to the point where the child simply believes that such punishment is part of life, it starts losing its effectiveness - especially when /3
they realize that you've got nothing worse. /4
Absofuckinglutely not. I was a hellion, but not stupid.
BYERE
And that is how we know that proper discipline works, and the softly-softly approach that's used these days does not.
MoreAshyThanLarry
an anonymous anecdote counts as knowledge, check
DarkerSavant
While I agree, it does not work on my son. I have to use timeouts and taking away things he likes and he responds way better and behaves.
phaphachboy
It's almost like there's not a single solution to every child because we're all different
MoreCowBellBaby
Results may vary*
I can tell you from experience that if the kid has a tantrum in a supermarket, bending them over and spanking them publicly is a quick-learn
In 3rd grade my teacher lost her sweet temper with the big class bully and tried to spank him in front of the class. He grabbed her arm 1/?
watched a teacher in secondary school get his ass beat with a chair and then his own brief case when he hit a student lol the student 1
deserved it but it was still satisfying to watch 2
NationalistCanadianMooseWarrior
Ahahahahahahaha no. That's bullshit.
Ok then.
You want us to believe a 3rd grader threw a grown woman using a judo throw?
I don't expect you to. But me and 30 odd other kids wouldn't have until we saw it happen. Some time before that we had a clsss weigh-in. 1/2
He was built like a fire hydrant and weighed 102 pounds. She weighed 98. 2/2
CaptainJoshuaCalvert
You were aware, to the pound, what your third grade teacher weighed? Yeah, I don't believe it. I like the visual though!
degenerator
Have you seen some of them bullies in places like Oakland? Yuge.
This was a pasty white kid in S.L.C. The 6th grade Tongans didn't mess with him.
Grown women aren't always that big and 3rd graders can be in Judo classes.
blairmichod
And proper technique can easily overcome greater strength regardless.
I think it
and used a judo throw to toss her at a heavy slab table, knocking it over. It was horrifying. He was suspended but no one was 2/?
Weentit
Wow, i thought you were describing me until you said 70's.
Ok, what happened? Do tell?!
PrisAustin
No one was whhaaaat???? Tell me mooore
Not much to tell. His dsd may have....corrected him but we never knew. He was transferred to a class with a tough male teacher. 1/2
A lot of us agreed to gang up on him but he heard about it and waited after school for us. No one showed up. 2/3
dumb enough to try hitting him again. It was the 1970's. 3/3
SatoriEnlightenment
The Wild Wild West.
I used to watch it. Was there a similar episode?
Ant4N
listen to my story, when I was in 4th grade, my teacher called me a cracker and killed my cat with a sword that was on fire. Then she 1/2
Pulled out a gun and told me if I ever said poo poo pee pee head, she's become a dragon and eat my family! And she did! I was so scared 2/3
IronicUsername
Here's the part where we circlejerk about "old school" methods of child discipline, ignoring the research that suggests this generally [1]
gayindianafarmboy
Research? Aw... But I LIKE using alternate facts!
does more harm than good. Keep eating those member berries, imgur. [2]
But "research" in psychology is pretty lax. It's known for its subjectivity and lack of rigor.
Sithrak
You do realize, the comments suggest the other side is the circlejerk, with everyone always agreeing with each other to that ends.
I don't think OP realizes that South Park is satirical, and they don't actually condone these methods.
Okay okay, then how to bring up a child? What should one do?
read child psychology books and remember that children are very small and very new to everything in life
Momoismysquirrelname
The issue is the research might have some level of bias.
The data is accumulated from decades of research, it's not from one study.
Ok, show me the bias then. I'll wait.
Research that ignores the facts that kids were far more civilized before the millennials took over. Now kids can get away with murder.
CyanideSprite
... What? Kids were not more civilized before millennials. Go watch the old black and white 12 Angry Men movie. One old guy 1
says the whole "back in my day, kids didn't act like this" bit... that movie came out several generations ago and he was talking about 2
the previous generation. Shakespeare plays have whole "kids these days" discussions. None of these attitudes are new. 3
What research? Was there some big psychological breakthrough that I missed?
See here's the thing about that research can be suggestive...example me my friends my family all got whooped growing up we never felt 1)
Abused or anything because our parents explained to us why we were getting punished and we all turned out just fine and any mistakes 2)
We made weren't Cuz of a whooping we got wen we were six the problem is that ppl who were actually abused don't know the difference 3)
Between actual discipline and abuse so they label everything as abusing then they try to come in and tell an actual good parent how to 4)
You grew up thinking it's ok to hit a defenseless child that can't fight back. So no, you didn't turn out fine.
no we learned that bad behavior gets punished. we weren't getting beat the fuck down by our parents. there's a huge difference
russellmbrown
Psychology is nonsensical pseudo science that changes as social attitudes and popular opinion changes.
densistemurikanen
No, just like other sciences views in psychology change as new research is performed and the old disproven. Some things remain, though.
StubbAdub
So true. Lets teach using fear as our tool. Nothing will go wrong!
Anpumon
It does have a tendency to make bullies stop beating up kids...
VaemarRiit
They actually just find other victims
That's why you kick their asses when they go find other victims.
But if you dare point that out you're a "special snowflake who needs a safe space" as if needing a safe space is even a bad thing.
NasaFakedTheMoon
No
raminagrobis
getting hurt by the words of others is your own doing. getting hurt physically isn't.
It is bad. Weak minded cowards are bad for society. We need strong, mentally tough ppl who don't become a shrieking mess with any resistance
BaddyOneShoe
I know, right? Every time Donald Trump has a hissy fit about SNL I'm reminded how bad it is for society.
Mental toughness comes from feeling supported and accepted. That is literally how a well adjusted person grows. Safe spaces can provide that
The screeching idiots roaming out streets instead of getting jobs prove otherwise.
The world isnt a "safe place" and will never be. So yeah, raising kids to need a safe place IS bad for humanity as a whole.
Your mum is a safe space when you're a kid. You NEED secure relationships that make you feel accepted and safe. Safe spaces are a great /2
Idea developmentally speaking. Adults need that too.
And when they don't feel safe, adults improperly brought up, seek to take safety from others
sonnydojo
Ah imgur, where science and disorders don't exist, child abuse is good, and south park is still fresh.
WhatRaySay
and those methods produced the wonderful array of bitter, resentful, hopelessly ignorant adults who just put a juvenile manchild into office
LiterallyYourMom
I love when people use South Park to support their arguments, not realizing South Park is using satire to directly criticize them.
Cloudfallxx
When I acted out in elementary school, i'd just get timeout and sit facing the corner.
HurrdurrdurrdurrHODOR
I was biking home and saw a father hit his little child in the face. I had no idea what to do :( poor child
elliedoodles
We also once used bloodletting to cure ailments. Thank goodness we let the scientific method determine what's good medical practice.
TheAnswerWasAlwaysMoreLube
SATIRE ALERT!
fentanylpush
Yinyang107
Hooray, I'm useful! I'm having a wonderful time.
JakobThor
Thats a upvotin? Thats a paddlin.
WhatTheDormouseSaid
That's an upvote
boobphysicist
TheVelureFog
You better believe that's an upvoting
MisterEcal
Gotta adjust for larger class sizes.
mrmeeseekslookatmee
My parents taught me to emulate their patience rather than lashing out physically when frustrated or unable to cope
StevenQUrkel
Really? My parents essentially told me to stop being a p***y when I came home crying after being bullied.
StevenQUrkel
Really? My parents essentially told me to stop being a p***y when I came home crying after being bullied.
mrmeeseekslookatmee
And mine told me to defend myself and that most bullies model their behavior from home so feeling sorry for them might be a consideration
AHorticulturistIsJustANerdyGardener
Of only slapping a kids actually changed brain chemistry.
SirBrendan
America, stop it. You stop it right now. You know what you're doing, and you're doing it on purpose.
roxyamused
yeah, positive reenforcement is better.
brainplay
High on emotion, short on science. https://www.sciencenews.org/blog/growth-curve/debate-over-spanking-short-science-high-emotion
BrockenSpectre
Yeah turns out this didnt work.
Eeko390
See, I was spanked as a kid, and it didn't teach me respect or even right from wrong. It taught me that hurting someone was a valid (1/2)
Eeko390
form of argument. If you disagree with someone, just instill them with enough fear so they'll never do anything ever again. (2/2)
Argondey
One of the important ways punishments like this go wrong is teaching the wrong lesson. Personally I just learned to never allow my 1/2
Argondey
parents to learn anything that would cause them to punish me. I ended up making every choice in life they didn't want me to, but by the 2/?
Argondey
time they ever found out about it, it was far too late for them to do anything about. Granted I still stand by most of those choices, 3/4
Argondey
but they are definitely not what my parents would have wanted for me. 4/4
ShmooThaSchmuck
Ah yes, the scientifically proven method of creating asshole adults!
wofulunicycle
What annoys me is people who say things like: "You don't spank your kids?! Ever?" as if I'm some kind of deviant that needs intervention.
SuzetteTheSmoreSchnappsGirl
or how about I stop being called an abusive parent for actually disciplining my child?
wofulunicycle
How about I won't tell you not to spank your kids if you don't tell me to spank mine? PS if you lay a hand on my kid I will ruin your life.
thanatos777
Imgur sure does love hitting kids.
Iamblaine
and women
PeakyBIinder
Cause they deserve it. Some of us dont like raising pussies.
EndersGame
You sound like a cunt, and I'm sure your children will be cunts too
PeakyBIinder
No, my children will respect me more. No one here is talking about beating children daily just when they fuck up how else are they going to
PeakyBIinder
Understand consequences of their actions
EndersGame
you can do that without hitting them
EndersGame
respect through violence? yep youre a cunt
Coogizephyr
Although funny, hopefully parents don't get too surprised when their kids use violence to solve their problems too. #Justlearningbyexample
danielpkendrick
Do you know of this actually happening? Violent people who are violent because of no other factors than having been *responsibly* spanked?
Purplegill10
I unfortunately do. He managed to get over it eventually after getting therapy.
danielpkendrick
I'm 33, was spanked, turned out fine and I respect it. I have 3 kids, and they get occasional spanks too. I'm not at all worried
IHateOrange
So you, as an adult, still use violence to solve your problems.
taghashtag
People don’t get it. He says he turned out fine but to my eyes he uses violence against his own children. Doesn’t sound fine to me.
Funtclaps
Don't know how you lot are so forgiving. My parents were physical with me; now I deny them access to their grandson.
dexterousgek
I sense other issues than just them spanking you.
Icallitbullshit
And right so
Funtclaps
I love that this is angering child abusers; I'm getting constant "this post has 10 points!" spam to my phone as the votes go up and down.
bonanox
Puzzy
PeakyBIinder
They obviously didnt hit you enough!
Funtclaps
I often feel that way, which I'm told is a result of the abuse I received. Fuck me, right?
Funtclaps
I often feel that way, which I'm told is a result of the abuse I received. Fuck me, right?
PeakyBIinder
My comment was just a joke so I wanted to apologize as j dont know what kind of childhood you had. But i kinda appreciate my parents hit me
Iamblaine
God you people are fucking stupid
Yupurineutah
Yerp.
SuzetteTheSmoreSchnappsGirl
agreed. reading these comments gave me a headache.
Medwards86
As a father of an autistic child with diagnosed ADHD if someone touched my kid like this I would beat the ever-living fuck out of them.
CascadianTwilight
thank you
Krzyjoe
As someone who supports spanking, you shouldn't be downvoted for this. Real mental issues are valid, people.
Medwards86
Correct. It's easy to mistake a kid who is "being an ass" with one who has underlying issues.
SAWhowhatnow
Why do you support beating kids? Are you really so stupid you can't figure out how to talk to a child? Or are you just too lazy to do it?
Krzyjoe
There's a big difference between spanking a kid and beating them. Are you really too stupid to know that?
SAWhowhatnow
Then give me the exact difference in PSI or fuck off, you child abusing coward.
Krzyjoe
Don't know what PSI is, but me getting spanked didn't produce an angry keyboard gremlin such as yourself, so there's a positive.
SuzetteTheSmoreSchnappsGirl
that's why you do both. explain why you spanked them. "I told you to stop kicking me multiple times and that deserves punishment"
SAWhowhatnow
"Mommy hit you because she isn't smart enough to raise you right, and she's a coward that knows you can't fight back." -Suzette to her kid
SergeantOldSchool
If a kid got a paddlin' at school today, parent's head would
SnorkeldinkCameltoe
aDefenseless9yearOldGirl
28 years ago if my kindergarten teacher had hit me my parents would have flipped the fuck out.
SergeantOldSchool
That long ago, if I came home without a paddlin', my mom would give me one because my teachers didn't catch whatever I did that day.
GoodGameYoungLad
Well did u do stuff the days you weren't caught?
SergeantOldSchool
I don't know what you're talking about. I was an absolute angel and the highlight of my teacher's career.
aDefenseless9yearOldGirl
Well your mom sounds like a lunatic.
SergeantOldSchool
Thank you for your kind words.
WhatTheFrench
I spanked my kid when he was little, but I would lose my shit if a teacher did it, you betcha.
SergeantOldSchool
First day of school, my mom met all my teachers and told them that she EXPECTED them to. That's the way it was back then.
WhatTheFrench
I don't trust their judgement today. Spent last year with a loony teacher who contacted me over minor issues and wanted my kid (1/2)
AppleFoster
Glad you ignored her. Many times parents dive right into shitty advice "because a teacher said it."
WhatTheFrench
evaluated for ADHD medication over minor attention issues that didnt exist before her and vanished with a different teacher this year. (2/2)
rocketman89
You would think so but still legal in many US states https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_corporal_punishment_in_the_United_States
SergeantOldSchool
Legal? Yes. Practiced? Only in the most rural of schools, where parents actually still discipline at home, too, AND back the school paddlin'
rocketman89
Yeah, you're right about that but still pretty crazy we haven't nailed down the whole "physically abuse schoolchildren" thing legally yet.
SergeantOldSchool
See, therein lies the problem. Discipline does not equal abuse. A firm thwack across the buttcheeks - discipline. Across the head? Abuse.
rocketman89
Well, if the parent approves of someone else hitting their child then more power to them.
SergeantOldSchool
Back then, if you came home and told your mom that you got a paddlin', the first thing she would say was "what did you do to earn it"
lemonfluff
Is imgur really full of bitter, conservative "back in my day" types?
honestb
Shit like this, or making fun of feminists, or lecturing black people to pull up their pants always gets upvoted.
pettyreprobate
yes.
Mithi
Culture of Violence
lanceconstablebluejohn
It hasn't always been this way, i want to know what happened to take it so downhill
cowarddogcourage
Wrong. It was like this before the tumblrinas took over imgur. Guess the original imgurians are trying to take their site back.
Indactil
Yeah... No. You don't know what the fuck your talking about
lanceconstablebluejohn
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA you're going to MAKE IMGUR GREAT AGAIN. whatever you say, champ
Wastyvez
Yep. Apparantly people still think it's okay to hit children as discipline, because that's how they got disciplined when they were young...
dexterousgek
Because for the entirety of human history until a few years ago, people have been disciplined physically and humanity has carried on.
LegitPoptart
I think its okay, as long as the kids truly deserves it, you warned them several times, and u never hit the face, i think its fine
goodgodgetagripgirl
And yet, applying that same logic to hitting an adult is battery. It's almost as if hitting people is bad.
peanutbutterandham
Can you hit a coworker when they screw something up a few times over? No that's called assault and it's no different just bc it's your kid
PeakyBIinder
Yes there is lol. Thats your coworker not your kid you mean nothing to him so it is called assault.
peanutbutterandham
Seriously people wtf
idclimbhimlikeatree
Well I cant fire my kid.
peanutbutterandham
Haha! Touché
chuckinnnpoppin
Please do tell under want circumstances a child, who is 1/20th of your size, who depends on your love to get food, deserves to be hit? Ffs
inmat
vsauce's video 'why do we kiss' is semi-related and explains why so many people believe they turned out fine.
lemonfluff
Thank you. These are the responses, reasoning and understanding I expect in 2017 not, "damn snowflakes not letting me hit my kids".
TayTay051
damn snowflakes not letting me hit my kids
chuckinnnpoppin
Yeah it's just funny cuz I'm no where near a feminist or an swj, but fureal don't hit people who want your approval more than food and water
TayTay051
damn snowflakes not letting me hit my kids
StinyZ
I got spanked as a kid. I hated it. But if my parents told me to stop or I'd get spanked, I listened. I'm not bitter, I'm grateful my 1/2
b00mh34d5h0t
I got spanked as a kid with branches over my whole body now im a drug addict failure hah
SAWhowhatnow
Yes, but you also grew up thinking it was ok to physically abuse children that can't fight back. So it seems like it wasn't worth it.
U1Love
It taught you to fear authority and to work like sheep for your corporate masters. Your parents taught you to wear a collar like a dog!
IDontWantToSetTheWorldOnFire
Its people like you who have those awful kids that scream for no reason and wreck shit while you just look at your phone.
LiquidMilk
Lot of judgment going on in a thread limited to 140 characters per comment
Itinerate
U1Love
Don't talk to me, dog. I don't talk to dogs, only humans. Humans who stand up and defend our country like patriots, you unamerican dog.
IDontWantToSetTheWorldOnFire
I bet you're proud of yourself because this is the first comeback that you felt didn't need proofreading by your mother to confirm your wit.
U1Love
This is the best response you got? SAD! As low energy as Jeb!
Genotex
...do you need somebody to talk to about those issues of yours?
U1Love
The only person I need to talk to is God and the Republic. I don't have justify my actions to anyone else.
spankythedog
fencerman
I'm sure any kind of abusive threat would get the same effect. That doesn't make it not abusive.
hank2247
As someone who is legally still a child, It's not fucking abuse. It's discipline, and there is a difference.
fencerman
So then get your ass over here for speaking rudely to your elders.
hank2247
There's a difference between elders and superiors
hank2247
There's a difference between elders and superiors
hank2247
There's a difference between elders and superiors
fencerman
How regularly do your parents still beat your ass?
fencerman
And there's a difference between disagreeing with someone and being a rude little brat.
StinyZ
my parents loved me enough to teach me to behave and respect authority. 2/2
michonnedisapproves
Did my parents not "love me enough"then because they taught that hitting the tv won't make it work?
missmalice
I got spanked as a kid. Now I'm married to my Dom and spanking is one of my tamer kinks. Can't complain. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
PhilKenSebban
With my dad it was just the threat of violence was enough. Once he sent me to my room so I kicked a pillow (total badass) in a second 1/2
PhilKenSebban
he was across the room and in my face and just said "room, now". After that never really played up around him. Good fathering.
theashman69
Yep. Your parents are exactly that. Your parents. Not your friends.
revcleo
I got spanked as a kid, it just taught me to be craftier.
revcleo
Rarely spanked, I'z rarely naughty. What would have worked way more would be just talking me through stuff. My brother who was naughtier
revcleo
than me (stuff like throwing parts of his kens at me and once throwing a metal bar? he was like 7) was hilariously scared of being smacked.
revcleo
So just the threat of it by my parents would upset him, he said he was allergic since his skin went red, haha. What stopped him being a dick
isweatergawd
spanking had the same effect for me.
StinyZ
But you learned something. ;)
revcleo
Such as how to sneak downstairs on the outside of the banister instead of taking the squeaky stairs.
MajorLeagueFister
Outside the box thing and creative problem solving skills, I like it.
WhiteRabbit86
My parents loved me enough to not hit me.
waldosbabe
With that attitude, they probably should have.
StinyZ
A spanking isn't hitting, mate.
SAWhowhatnow
The fuck it isn't.
michonnedisapproves
It literally is. ..
Dexx000
Aww...isn't that special...
finallystoppedlurkingonimgur
Ha! Our special little whiterabbit86
WhiteRabbit86
Never in any legal trouble, good job, happily married, large house, fast car, room full of vintage guitars. I've done alright.
Mayonnaiseisainstrument
How does this guy get so many downvotes, since when is it a bad thing to not use violence?
Momolicious
It's because he/she/Apache helicopter implied that our parents didn't love us if they spanked us.
Mayonnaiseisainstrument
you guys know there are other ways right
MarkyBoyAce
For a month I've tried to get my 3 yr old to stop hitting his older sister. Finally lost it and gave him a smacked backside and he 1/2
batmanfreak64
I just say to my husband, "bring me the hanger" and my son eats like it's his last meal.
TheVainyKnight
He asked for the rusty jumper cables
NazgulJim
I never got hit as a Child. But i still had an insane respekt for my Mother and father. But they were guiding parents. Not teenage friends
Fyrebaugh
Not every infraction requires physical punishment. For many children just being led properly is enough. 1/2
Fyrebaugh
That doesn't mean that physical punishment is not needed at all. Just as a last resort or for actions that need a complete and total stop.
BlindyBlindMansSonnySon
I taught my toddler to stay away from the cooker by slapping the back of his hand every-time he touched it, hurts us more than them
MistyNoble
I do the same with light sockets plus a loud scream to scare the hell out of him.
BlindyBlindMansSonnySon
it has to be done, I'm not the type of person to beat the hell out of my kid but I'm not above giving a spanking if he deserves it.
MistyNoble
I agree. I love my son more than life itself and it definitely hurts me more than him. But, I'm happy he's alive and not electrocuted.
TheNax
Great, you created the next BTK. Gheeez
MrJackedBroccoli
My mother was always a tiny lady. But to this day I can still feel the inhuman death grip on my forearm when I really messed up as a kid.
MrJackedBroccoli
Which was usually followed by a smack on the butt.
GoodGameYoungLad
So u too have experienced the superhuman strength of an angry mother
superbadonkey
2/2 looked me dead in the eyes and said "harder mommy"
WhiteKnighted
Geez dude. Fine, +1.
OneWingedWolf
This is going to be one of those subcomments that outscores the original comment.
StonedBoneMalone
http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/e7/e7a8e4961f6f087fb99c3b691a590f6a6c7e22a69e978e18ccb3dbca8fa6b092.jpg
SebastianCrab
PornHubOfficial
Yes!
TheNax
I was seriously confused for a atm, had to check usernames. good one!
thisismyusernameanditsucks
Glad I checked the usernames..
JeffreyBarter
Beats me, I do not get it.
Sh4dowWalker96
Different people.
therealpaul9
I'm glad that you checked the usernames. :o
Jestantay
I'm glad that you're glad.
SDOMO
Im glad that you're.
TheScarletBitch
I know this is a joke, but my son did something similar. He thinks spankings are hilarious. We use time outs for him now.
abacab87
I can remember when I first realized that spankings didn't hurt.
serpentinebaboo
Hit him harder. Laughed at my dad once as a kid. Once.
TheScarletBitch
Time outs are much more cruel for him. He's the definition of an extrovert. Being alone in his room is brutal torture.
SweetStache
I feel spanking and beating kids are 2 totally different things. No shame in a few spankings every now and again!
chrishallett83
Only fucking idiots don't know the difference a disciplinary smack and beating a child.
grimfandango
My dad would spank me when I crossed a line. I see my friend's kids sometimes and think they should try it. Theirs cross that line all day.
MadAsAFrickenHatter
Part of the reason I don't want kids. I'm afraid I'd beat the living crap out of them.
GoodGameYoungLad
Well u definitely don't wanna do that
MadAsAFrickenHatter
You're right. Id go to jail
ishouldnothavesaidthat
My dad didn’t. You’ll be fine.
LandonSlayz
I said the exact same thing. There's a difference between dragging a kid across a room and giving a firm smack when they wont be reasonable.
MarkyBoyAce
Hasn't done it since. Go figure.
CHICKINGNUGGER
Now he understands how it feels.
SAWhowhatnow
Wow. How retarded are you that you can't figure out how to talk to a child?
Timothytheterrible
Violence is universally understood
DankeBrutus
As someone who has worked with children, talking doesn't always work. If the kid doesn't learn to respect authority nothing you say works
SAWhowhatnow
If you can't handle the slightest bit of difficulty without resorting to beating a child you're too retarded to work with children.
DankeBrutus
I realise I actually commented on the wrong thread. I have never hit a kid, but I can tell which kid had firm or lenient parents
idclimbhimlikeatree
A smack on the ass is not beating a child. Honestly, how old are you?
TheAnswerWasAlwaysMoreLube
He will probably remember that moment for the rest of his life. Up to the point where you are the one who throws tantrums and uses diapers.
ehhidunno
My daughter bit the shit out of my leg and I reflexively threw her across the room. I felt terrible but she never bit again. Go figure.
Irish1228
Agree. My nephew was 4-5 or so and bit my mother once. She gave him a stern but not hard open handed pop in the mouth. He never bit again.
Arcian
No, instead he's going to "pop" his own children whenever they step out of line.
Yupurineutah
+1 but not necessarily. One love tap from a loving mother can seem so traumatic that a kid can behave and never do it to their child.
d3jake
That is one possibility, yes.
TheThoroughbredOfSinBadHorse
When I bit my siblings, my mom bit me back. I didn't bite very many times.
DankeBrutus
I used to pull hair. One day my mum gave a little tug to my hair, I cried for a little bit, never pulled hair again.
TheThoroughbredOfSinBadHorse
Yep, not saying it was the right thing for my mom to do, but it worked.
Saytin666
Guaranteed that he will again. You just taught him that hitting is ok. He just won't want to be on the receiving end.
WallieWhale
-145 points havn't seen that before
Potaterzpotateyo
That's when you get out the jumper cables
ThePhoenix204
Vurmalkin
... hitting him once is saying hitting is ok?
KrackWrinkle
You are a dumbass
lemonfluff
Not really
FoxySpirit
As someone who was hit by his sibling, I disagree.Though then we went Judo, hated it, sibling promised to never hit me again for no Judo :-P
Vurmalkin
... hitting him once is saying hitting is ok?
SweetieMcSugarbomb
We found the person who's not a parent and/or who has a "special snowflake"
SAWhowhatnow
Found the pussy who's only brave enough to hit a child.
Arcian
Whereas you are normalizing the physical abuse of children who can't defend themselves. I mean, for fuck sake.
JohnnyTitelips
@Saytin666 when he sees someone parenting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBipMHCUXjo
Saytin666
It's sad that we live in a society in which it is perfectly legal to assault the only people who have no power to do anything about it.
JohnnyTitelips
It's not assault, it's spanking. Grow up and shed the safe space mentality.
RoombaTheAssaultVacuum
Not at all guaranteed. A child's mind doesnt work like that. Sometimes a small amount of physical discipline is absolutely necessary.
Arcian
Pulling a child away from a hot stove or pushing them out of the way of an oncoming car, sure. Beating them as punishment? Not so much.
RoombaTheAssaultVacuum
There's a fine line between beating and discipline. A spanking is discipline. A closed fist with a pop to the face is beating.
Arcian
Pulling a child away from a hot stove or pushing them out of the way of an oncoming car, sure. Beating them as punishment? Not so much.
JudgeMentalCat
You know, Imgur likes science until science tells them they need to stop hitting their kids.
LoTRFanatic42
Yeah I think OP (and everyone upvoting this) completely missed the fact that South Park is satirical. They're not actually supporting this.
yodaisnotgod
Satire is using humor to prove a point. They're definitely supporting it in a roundabout way.
brainplay
https://www.sciencenews.org/blog/growth-curve/debate-over-spanking-short-science-high-emotion
cleverbeans
This is manufactured controversy. The American Psychiatric and Pediatric associations have consensus on both its harm and uselessness.
wertetet
Amazing how many here approve of hitting a child.
Saytin666
Just a sad reflection of how many people out there were hit when they were kids. It takes a very long time to change a culture at that level
Sasarious
"Worked for me"
JudgeMentalCat
http://www.newser.com/story/224147/study-spanking-is-nearly-as-damaging-as-child-abuse.html
ASFEFZZFF
http://www.nature.com/news/over-half-of-psychology-studies-fail-reproducibility-test-1.18248
ASFEFZZFF
http://www.nature.com/news/over-half-of-psychology-studies-fail-reproducibility-test-1.18248
JudgeMentalCat
So good to know this wasn't one study, but a multi-decade analysis of many studies conducted on the same subject
ASFEFZZFF
It doesn't change the fact that these studies are probably not reproductible.
SIrEvilMustache
Serveral studies, over several decades, but not reproductible? Do you know what that word means???
GoodGameYoungLad
Well I'll put it like this if ppl are so concerned about how I raise my kids then they can come and provide for then but until that day 1)
GoodGameYoungLad
I will discipline my kids if needed because I refuse to have them grow up into a disrespectful out of control asshole
ElbowDeepinaTinyOctopus
Yeah, wouldn't want them to be the sort of disrespectful, out of control asshole who strikes children.
GoodGameYoungLad
Oh look another imgur child care expert
chuckinnnpoppin
Sad the two options you see are "be a bad parent" and "be a worse parent" don't hit your kids.
GoodGameYoungLad
And what exactly makes me a bad parent? Because I discipline my children when I need to?
chuckinnnpoppin
No but discipline with violence is unethical and ineffective. You teach them that violence is acceptable if youre bigger and stronger.
seedye
I had wild foster kids for 5 yrs, and wasn't allowed to spank. We used ideas from the book "123 Magic" which helped a lot.
seedye
Your kids will probably be fine, but if you could get the same results w/o spanking, why would you want to?
inmat
parents get a rush from hitting their children. it makes THEM feel better. they vent their anger on their offspring. that's not healthy.
LostInIndonesia
Talk to them and set a good example for them. Don't hit them.
SAWhowhatnow
The dude can barely type, you really think he's smart enough to talk to a kid?
GoodGameYoungLad
Lol and what happens wen they openly defy you after you have told them something over and over? Let me guess u send em to timeout huh
SAWhowhatnow
So you're so stupid you can be easily outwitted by a toddler and your only response is to smack them for being smarter than you? Seems legit
LostInIndonesia
Different things work for different children. Explore different options and try things out. No parent is perfect. Just try to be a better 1
JudgeMentalCat
Yes, because I'm not a child abuser.
stickemwiththepointyend
I got paddled in kindergarten for throwing a crayon at another kid. How do you think that would go over nowadays?
cleverbeans
Poorly. Once they found out spanking doesn't work and has the same outcomes as child abuse it started to get unpopular.
IllegalDuckling
I threw sand into a kid's face and didn't get any punishment. I got his girl, though.
FreaksOnWheels
My kindergarten teacher as se was spanking a child 'does your mother ever spank you? Well she should!' It was terrifying.
russrob84
I got paddled for not knowing multiplication even though I was sick for a week and missed the lessons on that....some teachers are retarded
Imjustameatpopsicle
I got into a full blown fist fight with my 9th grade PE teacher. Neither of us got in trouble for it.
Jelmddddddddddddd
Scolded in oil
Yupurineutah
Ha!
iputthefiresout
I made a propeller with my ruler and pencil. I was hot with said ruler. Nuns are fun.
HailTide
I got a referral for throwing an origami frog to my friend didn't hit him..landed a foot away from him. Teacher freaked out on me.
spratacuss
I got my sideburns yanked for not listening. i'd take a paddling anytime.
Bsdemigod
You would be expelled and the teacher/parent would be arrested.
Vyrro
Today you r parents would probably sue and parlay their newfound riches on quinoa and kale
Wowyouknowwhatsomanyusernamesaretakenthesedays
I once fell asleep in class, and was woken by a slap. What was worse is when they told my dad, and he beat me with some jumper cables.
stickemwiththepointyend
I adore you, thank you.
MrWookloaf
My teacher wouldnt knock me around. But she would let my dad know i was a shit and he'd do it for them.
BigMissedSteak
me and a friend of mine got bored in drama so we sat at the back and pulled a chair apart (we didnt break the chair it was already (1/2)
Yupurineutah
disassembled so we sharpened the dowels on the brick mortar and acted out Hamlet act 5 scene 2. (2/2)
BigMissedSteak
Yeah pretty much
GotABitSilly
Once, I got a paddling in kindergarten for sleeping on my side during naptime instead of on my stomach. My teacher was actually scarring.
Yupurineutah
Some "teachers" need to have an unfortunate accident with a broken wrist they won't discuss.
hardytardigrade
You'd probably throw the crayon harder and with greater accuracy.
rubbarz
Whole school would get sued by a mom 3 counties over
DanNeedsLoveToo
"What am I gonna do with him? :) "
NinNin1031
In the South they still paddle
stickemwiththepointyend
Not in my county they don't. Some do, but not all.
Denamic
The person in charge would get sued if she told the kid off. And I say 'she' because men aren't allowed to work with kids.
Janusha
You would cash in on a lawsuit and they would all get fired.
CaptainObviouslikesthemthicc
Depends on the State you live in
EdwardSnowdensNeckMoleIsUnfortunatelyMySpiritAnimal
It would go over way better than paddling some kid that's for fuckin sure.
stickemwiththepointyend
....what
leadoxide2
No school for the week!
Frankidelic
I got suspended in kindergarten which was 13 years ago ._. I hated being placed on the color red
Calza027
Participation medal
slingdzz
Like a fart in church
JCava
As someone who works for a school, nothing. As a child you wouldn't be reprimanded. Teacher would be escorted out by police and fired.
reallyreallyreal
I got the same treatment... i ripped a loud fart but because i laughed, i got a paddlin.
SluntBiggums
My mom would punch and kick me when I was bad. I still did those things.
SiameseCitys
If I was the parent, I'd assault the teacher.
Yupurineutah
Word.
BlindyBlindMansSonnySon
had a teacher in primary school who used to make you eat the pencil if you chewed on it and stand in the corner with a dunce hat on 1
BlindyBlindMansSonnySon
until a mother beat her senseless when her kid come home with an upset stomach from ingesting an entire pencil. 2
JoelRG
Tasty.
mynewcharacter
Kids got hit with a ruler when I was in 5th grade. Nobody cared and it was not a big deal at all.
KLUSTENATOR
I got beat or had hard toys thrown at me because they thought I wasn't paying attention or because they saw my eyes were open during naptime
fencerman
Yeah, and what's with not being allowed to slap your wife around anymore either? /s
darkninja2992
Nah, that's different
fencerman
Not really. Both are legal in some places, for exactly the same reasons.
Yupurineutah
Eenie meany chili beany. You can whip your wife if you vote for Khomeini.
SAWhowhatnow
How shitty at their job was your teacher that they had to resort to beating a toddler instead of, you know, teaching them?
WhatsAJib
Woah woah woah, a fucking crayon? You brought a lethal weapon to kindergarten? Yeah, we're calling the cops.
ermahgerdawoman
Zero tolerance policy. He might get expelled. I actually know someone with twin boys that fought each other first day of kindergarten.
ermahgerdawoman
They were expelled. The parents had to talk the school into letting them stay.
Blinkwriter
You'd get a participation award
superseriouscomments
Might be a hate crime today if the other kid was a different race. Or is that only in South Park?
IPutAHexOnYou4c6f7665206d65
you still remember it, so i guess it had an impact on you, either that 'this is how i should be treated' and that 'this is for my own good'
IPutAHexOnYou4c6f7665206d65
and the real question is. Do you stand up and shout, or do you sit down and shut up?
TongueTiedLabourerfromtheLandoftheLittlePeople
"The few existing randomized controltrials showed that physical punishment was no more effective than other methods in eliciting compliance"
TongueTiedLabourerfromtheLandoftheLittlePeople
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3447048/
SidLordoftheFlame
That's actually a really insightful read, thanks for sharing! That's one for a bookmark.
StressedOut
I'll give a +1 for citing actual research. That's rare on Imgur.
utgort
My brother got hung on a coat hook until dad came and got him down. The teacher was thanked and brother never did that again.
RandyReady
The same thing happened to my brother! Teacher hung him by the "fag tag" (sorry, I dont know the real name of the loop on the back of shirt)
Yupurineutah
I like that idea. Uncomfortable and humiliatinh but not sadistic like a beating.
BlindyBlindMansSonnySon
When my dad went to school it was run by the christian brothers, when he was grown he saw one of them in the street and beat him senseless1
BlindyBlindMansSonnySon
he said they were complete sadists 2
Yupurineutah
Good on him. Fucking papist Jesuit buggers.
Adambean
threw a crayon? fukkin cunt, you should be hung :p
stickemwiththepointyend
Right? Absolutely horrid little child I was
Adambean
savage
SketchNI
Hanged, you uncultured fuckwit!
aDefenseless9yearOldGirl
When I was in kindergarten 28 years ago, a teacher hitting a student would have lost their job and my dad would have fucked them up.
Aussieausti
I fucking wish kids could get paddles or physically punish because jesus there are some cunts in my grade who never learn from punishments
tornbetweenscyllaandcovfefe
Ahahahahahah no
Aussieausti
Okay, let's have a mature argument then, why not?
tornbetweenscyllaandcovfefe
Okay. From someone who had been physically abused by his parents. No. It doesn't work.
Rayve1
Well, you see a fucking paddle is abuse mate. Like jesus christ if you don't see wrong in beating a kid then I dunno what will convince you.
eliporter877
how does adefensless9yearoldgirl attend kindergarten 28 years ago? The math ain't right.
ElieRosethorn
Ghost.
Mikeiller
Time Travel. ... either that or she's really bad at math.
ThatShiftyMonkey
5th grade in '93, part of school registration was a form to allow my parents to opt into allowing corporal punishment with me.
ThatShiftyMonkey
They signed off on it. I never acted up. I had a couple friends that got the paddle at the principal's office though.
StinyZ
The school would give you an award for expressing yourself and you'd be given a safe space.
Ihavewaytoomanyfavoritestosort
It's sad that you're getting upvoted because that is absolutely not true.
stickemwiththepointyend
I shudder to think about it.
DrKriegersClone
Or it's a federal hate crime if the crayon target differs from the thrower in any demographic.
SneakEFoxxe
Hate to break it to you but that still isnt how it works. It just so happens that kids are no longer the only group you can legally beat up.
catsaregroundowls
I had teachers that threw desks at kids and I graduated in 2010. We weren't snitches though and the kids deserved it
JohnnyTitelips
It's true. You can also beat up vegans, because they're not people.
FellhuhnCom
Won't get paddled for throwing a chair at your teacher nowadays.
Ihavewaytoomanyfavoritestosort
You will, however, get suspended/expelled.
FellhuhnCom
Not in the schools around here.
Ihavewaytoomanyfavoritestosort
Your district is shit, then.
wheresthetoaster
And the teacher would get into trouble if trying to protect themselves and/or other students.
LandonSlayz
It's a way of teaching compliance no matter the situation to future generations. This is how you get a dystopian future.
totalwiener
Anyone wanna cite an actually situation where a teacher defending themselves got into trouble?
GoDrunkYoureHome
Kid who was actively throwing punches and anything they could get there hands on at the staff and other kids. 2
GoDrunkYoureHome
I don't know about a teacher but my gf used to work for a group home, and the state had one of her coworkers removed after she pushed a 1
Awesummzz
They're exaggerating for effect
wheresthetoaster
I have a few friends that are teachers. They're told to let the kid do whatever and try to protect the other children, but to not lay a 1/2
wheresthetoaster
hand on the one acting. Not for safety of themselves, but for the liability of the school.
nerdycatt
The high school i graduated from in 2000 still used paddling as punishment. When that principal retired, the punishment went with him.
whatwaswrongwithphrasing
My highschool did that too! Class of 2009. I was amazed they were allowed to do that.
imgurliestome
I'm being completely disingenuous here, but which state was your school in?
whatwaswrongwithphrasing
Tennessee
nerdycatt
North Carolina here.
StressedOut
Honest question here- which state was your school in?
imgurliestome
Tennessee
nerdycatt
North Carolina.
MrsZbornak
When I went to 1 st grade in Turkey in 1988. I had my head slammed against board by teacher for spelling word wrong
CuntFuckBitchShitDickMotherfucker420
D:
MasturGrunt
Why would they teach you how to spell "word" in Turkey?
lanceconstablebluejohn
poorly because we now know that's not a good idea
MrSisterFister
You're suggesting we've proven that spanking is ineffective?
SAWhowhatnow
We absolutely have. There's not even a question about it any more, it's a cold hard fact that spanking does nothing positive.
darkninja2992
Eh, i have two cousins and spanking is the only punishment that actually works on them
schindig
Dunno why you're being downvoted... You are correct..
lanceconstablebluejohn
I am, please dont take my word for it though, heres a source https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3447048/
cowarddogcourage
That's the same source that "proved" video games and violent movies turn kids into serial killers. Let that sink in for a bit.
lanceconstablebluejohn
Joan Durrant, PhD and Ron Ensom, MSW RSW "proved" video games turn people into killers, backed by 20 years of research, please: link?
lanceconstablebluejohn
cause if you have a source for that I will definitely read it and be open to changing my view
idiotn00b
Yeah, turns out child abuse generally does not have a positive outcome.
darkninja2992
Spanking isn't child abuse, at most it's a necessary evil in child discipline
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idiotn00b
Well if you knew anything about classical conditioning you'd know this has zero to do with negative reinforcement. It is a punishment.
SuckAnElf
That's what they used to say about husbands hitting their wives back in the day too
SAWhowhatnow
Prove it. Show me the scientific studies, because I can absolutely show dozens that prove the opposite.
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cardman
Bet you didn't throw any more crayons either.
Dorsk84
Proof it works.
digitalutopia
The trouble is - solving problems through violence is easy, while actually raising a child can be difficult. It becomes tempting to solve /1
digitalutopia
all problems through this method - counting on the idea that what makes it so easy (i.e. fear), will continue regardless. But if it gets /2
digitalutopia
to the point where the child simply believes that such punishment is part of life, it starts losing its effectiveness - especially when /3
digitalutopia
they realize that you've got nothing worse. /4
stickemwiththepointyend
Absofuckinglutely not. I was a hellion, but not stupid.
BYERE
And that is how we know that proper discipline works, and the softly-softly approach that's used these days does not.
MoreAshyThanLarry
an anonymous anecdote counts as knowledge, check
DarkerSavant
While I agree, it does not work on my son. I have to use timeouts and taking away things he likes and he responds way better and behaves.
phaphachboy
It's almost like there's not a single solution to every child because we're all different
MoreCowBellBaby
Results may vary*
BYERE
I can tell you from experience that if the kid has a tantrum in a supermarket, bending them over and spanking them publicly is a quick-learn
Yupurineutah
In 3rd grade my teacher lost her sweet temper with the big class bully and tried to spank him in front of the class. He grabbed her arm 1/?
BlindyBlindMansSonnySon
watched a teacher in secondary school get his ass beat with a chair and then his own brief case when he hit a student lol the student 1
BlindyBlindMansSonnySon
deserved it but it was still satisfying to watch 2
NationalistCanadianMooseWarrior
Ahahahahahahaha no. That's bullshit.
Yupurineutah
Ok then.
totalwiener
You want us to believe a 3rd grader threw a grown woman using a judo throw?
Yupurineutah
I don't expect you to. But me and 30 odd other kids wouldn't have until we saw it happen. Some time before that we had a clsss weigh-in. 1/2
Yupurineutah
He was built like a fire hydrant and weighed 102 pounds. She weighed 98. 2/2
CaptainJoshuaCalvert
You were aware, to the pound, what your third grade teacher weighed? Yeah, I don't believe it. I like the visual though!
degenerator
Have you seen some of them bullies in places like Oakland? Yuge.
Yupurineutah
This was a pasty white kid in S.L.C. The 6th grade Tongans didn't mess with him.
Awesummzz
Grown women aren't always that big and 3rd graders can be in Judo classes.
blairmichod
And proper technique can easily overcome greater strength regardless.
SidLordoftheFlame
I think it
Yupurineutah
and used a judo throw to toss her at a heavy slab table, knocking it over. It was horrifying. He was suspended but no one was 2/?
Weentit
Wow, i thought you were describing me until you said 70's.
Yupurineutah
Ok, what happened? Do tell?!
PrisAustin
No one was whhaaaat???? Tell me mooore
Yupurineutah
Not much to tell. His dsd may have....corrected him but we never knew. He was transferred to a class with a tough male teacher. 1/2
Yupurineutah
A lot of us agreed to gang up on him but he heard about it and waited after school for us. No one showed up. 2/3
Yupurineutah
dumb enough to try hitting him again. It was the 1970's. 3/3
SatoriEnlightenment
The Wild Wild West.
Yupurineutah
I used to watch it. Was there a similar episode?
SatoriEnlightenment
The Wild Wild West.
Ant4N
listen to my story, when I was in 4th grade, my teacher called me a cracker and killed my cat with a sword that was on fire. Then she 1/2
Ant4N
Pulled out a gun and told me if I ever said poo poo pee pee head, she's become a dragon and eat my family! And she did! I was so scared 2/3
IronicUsername
Here's the part where we circlejerk about "old school" methods of child discipline, ignoring the research that suggests this generally [1]
gayindianafarmboy
Research? Aw... But I LIKE using alternate facts!
IronicUsername
does more harm than good. Keep eating those member berries, imgur. [2]
MrSisterFister
But "research" in psychology is pretty lax. It's known for its subjectivity and lack of rigor.
Sithrak
You do realize, the comments suggest the other side is the circlejerk, with everyone always agreeing with each other to that ends.
LoTRFanatic42
I don't think OP realizes that South Park is satirical, and they don't actually condone these methods.
JeffreyBarter
Okay okay, then how to bring up a child? What should one do?
inmat
read child psychology books and remember that children are very small and very new to everything in life
Momoismysquirrelname
The issue is the research might have some level of bias.
SuckAnElf
The data is accumulated from decades of research, it's not from one study.
SAWhowhatnow
Ok, show me the bias then. I'll wait.
cowarddogcourage
Research that ignores the facts that kids were far more civilized before the millennials took over. Now kids can get away with murder.
CyanideSprite
... What? Kids were not more civilized before millennials. Go watch the old black and white 12 Angry Men movie. One old guy 1
CyanideSprite
says the whole "back in my day, kids didn't act like this" bit... that movie came out several generations ago and he was talking about 2
CyanideSprite
the previous generation. Shakespeare plays have whole "kids these days" discussions. None of these attitudes are new. 3
waldosbabe
What research? Was there some big psychological breakthrough that I missed?
GoodGameYoungLad
See here's the thing about that research can be suggestive...example me my friends my family all got whooped growing up we never felt 1)
GoodGameYoungLad
Abused or anything because our parents explained to us why we were getting punished and we all turned out just fine and any mistakes 2)
GoodGameYoungLad
We made weren't Cuz of a whooping we got wen we were six the problem is that ppl who were actually abused don't know the difference 3)
GoodGameYoungLad
Between actual discipline and abuse so they label everything as abusing then they try to come in and tell an actual good parent how to 4)
SAWhowhatnow
You grew up thinking it's ok to hit a defenseless child that can't fight back. So no, you didn't turn out fine.
SuzetteTheSmoreSchnappsGirl
no we learned that bad behavior gets punished. we weren't getting beat the fuck down by our parents. there's a huge difference
russellmbrown
Psychology is nonsensical pseudo science that changes as social attitudes and popular opinion changes.
densistemurikanen
No, just like other sciences views in psychology change as new research is performed and the old disproven. Some things remain, though.
StubbAdub
So true. Lets teach using fear as our tool. Nothing will go wrong!
Anpumon
It does have a tendency to make bullies stop beating up kids...
VaemarRiit
They actually just find other victims
Anpumon
That's why you kick their asses when they go find other victims.
lemonfluff
But if you dare point that out you're a "special snowflake who needs a safe space" as if needing a safe space is even a bad thing.
NasaFakedTheMoon
lemonfluff
No
raminagrobis
getting hurt by the words of others is your own doing. getting hurt physically isn't.
russellmbrown
It is bad. Weak minded cowards are bad for society. We need strong, mentally tough ppl who don't become a shrieking mess with any resistance
BaddyOneShoe
I know, right? Every time Donald Trump has a hissy fit about SNL I'm reminded how bad it is for society.
lemonfluff
Mental toughness comes from feeling supported and accepted. That is literally how a well adjusted person grows. Safe spaces can provide that
russellmbrown
The screeching idiots roaming out streets instead of getting jobs prove otherwise.
cowarddogcourage
The world isnt a "safe place" and will never be. So yeah, raising kids to need a safe place IS bad for humanity as a whole.
lemonfluff
Your mum is a safe space when you're a kid. You NEED secure relationships that make you feel accepted and safe. Safe spaces are a great /2
lemonfluff
Idea developmentally speaking. Adults need that too.
VaemarRiit
And when they don't feel safe, adults improperly brought up, seek to take safety from others