GravityActually
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So we all know this guy on the left. In case you don't, that is Vladimir Putin, the current President of the Russian Federation. And this guy could be a very huge threat to America and to a further extent, the entire world. Why is that you ask? I'll explain
Moscow
This capital city of Russia has a population of about 30 million (in and around the city) and about a week ago, the entire population plus another 10 million were instructed by the Russian Government to perform nuclear defense drills to better prepare their citizens from nuclear and chemical attacks. This seems a little random right? Mobilizing that many people to all go underground in a nationwide drill to prepare against nuclear attacks. I have a friend that lives in Moscow that had to participate and found the whole thing very concerning. But why are they doing this?
The reason is that the relationship between the U.S. and Russia is becoming more and more strained with the Russian Government stating to their people that the U.S are likely to launch an offensive on Russia. Recent events such as the Russian killing of civilians in Aleppo, further disagreements in Syria, and Russian hacking of American intelligence has caused concern for both countries. Some concerning things Russia has done besides the nuclear drill is moving nuclear missiles to the Polish border, buzzing US warships off the coast of Ukraine and intercepting US spy planes, withdrawing from a nuclear security pact on plutonium, and another one that is more concerning...
The Russian Government has ordered officials to bring back all children and other family that might be studying abroad or visiting other countries. This also includes Russian officials in embassies. This is very concerning as it shows that Russia are preparing for a conflict and seem like they are willing to engage in one.
Why haven't we heard much about this on the news? Well we're too busy focusing on these two complete idiots. Plus President Obama hasn't chosen to recognize this issue either. I just wanted to make this post to spread awareness and to warn people that something bad could happen at anytime.
Edit: So I left this overnight and a lot of people think that I'm saying war is coming. Just trying to say that these series of events are interesting and that we really need to rethink our strategy in Syria and dealing with Russia as a whole since they're one of the more powerful nations out there. No world war 3 probably won't happen anytime soon, and there won't be a conflict so you can put away your plasma rifles and nuka colas.
Also added some more sources since I realized these weren't the best out there, just pulled them from google.
Sources:
https://origin-nyi . thehill . com/blogs/pundits-blog/foreign-policy/301037-russia-prepares-for-war-while-were-distracted-with-tapes
http://www . americanthinker . com/blog/2016/10/putin_orders_all_russian_officials_to_bring_family_members_living_abroad_back_home . html
https://www . thesun . co . uk/news/1907902/russia-holds-massive-nuclear-war-exercise-involving-40million-people-as-military-tensions-rise-with-us/
http://www . independent . co . uk/news/world/europe/russia-nuclear-weapon-training-attack-radiation-moscow-vladimir-putin-a7345461 . html
http://en . mchs . ru/mass_media/news/item/32915549/
http://www . cnn . com/2016/10/12/politics/us-russia-tensions-cold-war/
clausext
Kirberus
Wolverines!
snowman520182
Ok, using the daily mail is your first mistake.
wapcaplet
http://www.snopes.com/2016/10/12/putin-urging-russian-officials-to-return/
eion85
http://www.snopes.com/russians-drill-nuclear-strike/ Not unusual in size for drills in Russia.
iupvotemorethaNidownvOTe
You lost me when you cited The Sun. Utter tabloid bullshit and you sir are fishing for upvotes. Here's my downvote. Are you concerned now!
TheGrumpest
Y'know, I really don't think that Clinton is an idiot. I hate her, but she's too smart to be dismissed that way.
CtrlAltJesse
Fear mongering
Heterosapian
Red scare. Can't wait to turn my neighbor in to the FBI for communist comments for a sack of potatoes.
TurangaLeeIa
...quote sources other than the Daily Mail and I'll take you seriously
CirB
Reading from Finnish newspapers, these actions appear to have taken place. It's just that they're being presented very sensationally here.
Imadethisaccountinapisspoorefforttomakefriends
Honestly not even worried
quintusfontane
I don't like the guy, but Putin's too smart to want a war. It's just a continuation of the posturing/bluffing game they play with NATO.
rubbarz
The Sun and Daily Mail are the news mags you see standing in line at the grocery store that says Oprah has hid the cure for aids in her vag
trinxter
Old KGB agent is just bombing civilians and taking territory to get Russia some RESPECT!
twicemice
Lmao at using an article from the sun as a Fucking proper news source.
IPostAboutPoliticsIfYouDontLikeItSuckIt
What would we do absent non-idiot Imgurians bringing awareness to non-issues like this? Thanks, Imgur for getting people riled up for naught
ispentwaytoolongthinkingaboutthis
OP propaganda is part of the problem
caranosaur
Yeah I've been living in Moscow for the last month and a half and have heard literally nothing about any nuclear drills...
mieuu
Pretty sure if we havent stir-fried North Korea yet Russia has absolutely nothing to worry about.
blakeatwork
When you source Daily Mail and The Sun, I feel confident saying you believe everything you read on the web
d0o0o0d
Does The Sun still do the Page 3 thing?
FumbieNumbie
Now tell me why haven't I heard about it living in Moscow? I'm calling bullshit.
BitchButcher
Do you have free press? ;)
FumbieNumbie
This is stupid because I would have heard about the drills anyway. Also do you? ;)
thefar
If the sun is writing about it, it's probably just a hoax...
foxwithtools
Russian from Moscow here. What. A. Bullshit.
casualnihilist
Glad to hear!
GrimRiderJ
Glad to hear it, American from America here
foxwithtools
Idiotic news websites just trying to boost their traffic.
K0415
Just moved to tverskaya yamskaya, and sure as shit saw none of this. What the fuck are these idiots believing?
Duskala
Did the Defence drills take place as the article says? (Getting a little concerned over here in the UK)
Ueland
Yes
Detox208
@OP your sources are shit mate
Detox208
https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/worldviews/wp/2016/10/15/are-the-russians-really-preparing-for-war/
GravityActually
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russia-nuclear-weapon-training-attack-radiation-moscow-vladimir-putin-a7345461.html
ImNotCreativeEnoughForAGoodUsername
http://www.snopes.com/2016/10/12/putin-urging-russian-officials-to-return
northcarolinaisbeststate
http://abcnews.go.com/International/russian-television-warns-nuclear-war-amid-us-tensions/story?id=42773541 IT's not as bad as you say
vincethepince
Really, because my friend in Russia says none of that shit happened. Take this shit back to infowars
Jupman
And there are no war ships near Ukraine either.
notme222
Includes Russian broadcast: http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/717446/russia-evacuate-40-million-people-emergency-drill-vladimir-putin-ww3
vincethepince
Do you speak russian? Because I don't trust these subtitles.
Benjakenja72
Well maybe he lives in Town Bumfuck just south of the arctic circle?
TrijezniMujo
You think somebody would do such a thing? Go on the internet and lie ?
Jarjarthejedi
So, just to be clear, you're claiming that your anonymous friend is more reliable than the 3 sources of new articles OP provided?
mieuu
"news"
ItTastesLikePurple
The Sun and Daily Mail are tabloids; American Thinker looks like some group of random conservative bloggers
foxwithtools
Russian from Moscow here. This post is a pile of shit. None of us even heard about these "drills"
TrijezniMujo
How do we know you aren't a commie agent ?
foxwithtools
You don't...
TrijezniMujo
Damn commie agent, you win this round.
diphenhydraminehcl50mg
Maybe you just didn't get the invitation, are you a Bolshevick?
foxwithtools
Да
BobTheBogus
Or do you just want us to believe that?
foxwithtools
do I?.... Tuh-tuh-duuuuuum
irishwhale
Those sources especially the Daily mail and the sun make me believe this is not in any way concerning. They scaremonger to sell papers.
CirB
The actions taken by Russian gov are basically as mentioned here. It's just that they're presented in much more "shrilly" in these rags.
flowofsilence
as a Russian, this news are the bullshit
ihateworkingongermancars
That's exactly what they would want us to think
Mcknizzle
The vast majority of ruskies don't actually think we'll launch an attack. Most Americans don't think they will either.
Pandaphant
It won't happen. Putin is trying to fuck with the elections by making a scene.
YabadabaDoobie
SOURCE
substanceDfordaV
Actually I remember a poll that said that around 75% of Russians view America as a threat. Didn't save source
Mcknizzle
A threat does not mean they fear an outright attack.
CreativeEgo
Unfortunately, majorities don't have a say in either country.
Mcknizzle
Also, obamas ignoring them on many diplomatic levels as an insult. Putin wants a Cold War. Obamas trying not to give it to him.
fr1080f
Russians battle a cold war all the time. They have much more parkas than the US they'd win easily.
Mcknizzle
It's so simple! Why didn't I see it before???
MentalMeatball
Putin is trying to avoid a war Russia is being made to look the bad guy in all these scenarios Putin knows there won't be a winner
MisterLemons
Yes there will. We'll set foot on the moon in spite! Or something american like that.
Mcknizzle
Son, you don't move nuclear launchers up when you want to avoid war. Russia is entirely responsible for rising tensions and we've given them
Mcknizzle
several easy outs. They've chosen animosity and now they're paying for it.
MentalMeatball
Have you fuck given them easy outs all of the "deals" to lower tension have always had negative outcomes so Putin would obviously decline
MentalMeatball
Well what would you do if it were threatened with nuclear war by the biggest Warmonger in the world, its plain to see mate
Mcknizzle
We haven't threatened to attack them. We didn't annex part of a European nation. We didn't drop out of an important treaty to reduce uranium
Mcknizzle
2. stockpiles. We aren't purposefully bombing cities to rubble. Go look in a mirror. Russia is being shunned by the west for a reason.
simicfishcrab
You know Putin's not some evil warmongering dictator right?
Mcknizzle
Cold War does not equal actual War. Learn the difference and the political boosts it gives to those involved.
Bruhbeans
Ukrain, Georgië and Moldavia beg the differ.. Russia took a lot of land from them and created proxy states
Bruhbeans
And as for dictator; only pro putin parties are aloud in the Kremlin (comm, nationalist etc). Almost all opposition is jailed, murdered or
simicfishcrab
You know he had public support from the populace in each of those cases. Mainly cause their governments were corrupt
Bruhbeans
Silenced.
CigaretteMan
This has been covered extensively in the news. NBC had an article yesterday about how current relations are the worst since the Cold War.
BlueSpaceLizard
The News: Telling us what to think since forever.
definitelynotaseagull
This is the internet, you can't assume OP has done any research or paid any attention to anything.
ObviBro
We can assume that you haven't either.
Govad
That's because fear gets ratings.
RoseTylerKillsDaleks
NPR had a segment during rush hour too.
LewdSomnambulist
But our nuclear plans have changed since the cold war. Nuclear engagement no longer means mutually assured destruction. Not that that's good
daelith
According to who? We've got ballistic missile defenses, but if one lands I'd bet the plan is still to carpet nuke every major city / defense
N0ticeablyFAT
Whenever you see the phrase "Why haven't we seen this in the news?" guaran-damn-teed the writer doesn't actually pay attention to the news.
fr1080f
Sounds like political channels that always say we HAVE to show you this. Cough 'rebel media' cough
CigaretteMan
Nah, I assume they know but are relying on other's lack of attention to the news to make their claim.
avictimofaseriesofaccidents
http://www.snopes.com/2016/10/12/putin-urging-russian-officials-to-return/
FairyGodzilla
Snopes is Soros, always
ctzn07
all articles link to same source,which then has unnamed sources, which is very very bad journalism
stevetacular
Plus that whole thing about journalists that don't fall in line accidentally disappearing in Russia
aaikr
Debunked
Ihavewaytoomanyfavoritestosort
Thank you.
yuraf
This, they are simply shooting stupid laws and using propaganda to 'rally around their leader' before the next presidential elections.
BrianWilsonsBed
Nice
ukues91
My man! One to step up to the witch hunt!
ThePrimrose
Lmao, Man OP must feel just foolish about getting himself all worked up
TGWeaver
More likely they'll find a way to dismiss this.
SamuraiChamploo
OP is just spewing American propaganda
scrantonphys
Thank you
Ueland
thank you what? They all point to the same shit source (a random tabloid in RU which nobody cares about)
britishdilettantejimmyrustlerbutmostlyokguy
As soon as I saw Daily Mail and The Sun in the links I smelled bullshit. Is American Thinker any better? I'm not familiar.
DeliriousPuma
NO!
yeahifuck
So snopes says the officials aren't a big deal. Apparently it's normal. But what about the rest of this?
Exekute01
There were 2 things. Recall and drills. The Snopes article addresses both. OP is correct about worsening relationship, but that's not news.
snipekill1997
Well... it is, but it's not a reason to make a "the apocalypse is nigh" post.
CigaretteMan
Even if they had officially recalled officials, it would mean little. Recalling embassy officials is the classic thing countries do when (1)
yuraf
No one is recalling embassies.
Detox208
...an election is coming
CigaretteMan
tensions are running high, or an incident has occurred that one country wants to protest. (2)
EscarFrazzle
We've moved defensive missile around in times like this and even sent navy ships off countries coast just to say fucking try us. Let's 1/2
EscarFrazzle
hope it stays peaceful. Like I said, we've done similar things hundreds of times 2/2
muttar
Stop posting logical shit.
PinkSoDancy
Can't stop the logical shit posting
avictimofaseriesofaccidents
My bad man.
stabbedintheface
You lost me when you cited the daily mail
ClarkManor
So, at the end of the post?
SeverusSnapeWasJustMisunderstood
The papers in Russia that are publishing this shit are the Russian equivalent. This is not true. Gullible rather than fear mongering I think
CaptainShiznit
I was genuinely worried reading it and then genuinely relieved when I saw the sources.
Agent
The daily mail is a fine news source. They broke the story about the human clone factory that was discovered inside the reptillian moonbase.
casualnihilist
Those were the days when journalist still had the guts to tell the truth.
dgabbless
This article presents a very limited perspective on this issue. The way it assigns all blame for worsening relations (1)
dgabbless
on the actions of russia is very telling. Hostility and aggression has emerged from both sides of this ongoing shitfight. (2)
ThatMomentWhenImgurJokesAreOnlyFunnyToImgurians
I generally think that Putin wouldn't wanna have his citizens turn on him, so risking a war would be too much
mibango
If you get a attacked, you have no choice.
ThatMomentWhenImgurJokesAreOnlyFunnyToImgurians
US wouldn't attack russia though, unless they provoked us personally at least
foorct
And there is not a single russian soldier in Ukraine. Ppl belive what you make them belive.
OpenDaMouth
What's wrong with daily mail? I've never read it, generally curious
SomethingWittyIDK
It's tabloid journalism
JacksBrokenWind
That reputation holds true across the states as well. Saw the sources and immediately lost interest.
thepocketforge
It's just a hate filled, inflammatory sess pit of biased misinformation
OpenDaMouth
Yea sounds like FOX
Trumanovich
Right-wing, sensationalist tabloid drivel. They also supported the rise of fascism/Hitler in Europe during the run-up to WWII.
stillnotmereally
It's like the print version of fox news without the journalistic integrity
ohhmyninee
Fox News has journalistic integrity? damn, learn something everyday.
DiabolicalStench
They don't, but when you compare them to the UK tabloid papers you might be forgiven in thinking that they do. They're as bad as each other.
30Jonseredi
And what's wrong with Fox news? I'm not from us so I'm just generally curious
OpenDaMouth
Everything bro. Everything. It's an embarrassment to human intelligence and a reminder of the state of a large portion of ppl in our country
30Jonseredi
We had a minister to openly admit they had our official national news put out propaganda considering refugees. Fox can't be that bad
DiabolicalStench
It's like the TV version of the Daily Mail without the journalistic integrity
30Jonseredi
And Daily Mail is....?
OpenDaMouth
Holy shit no way it's that bad
GnomeDeGuerre
It may be be worse than that.
DiabolicalStench
Unfortunately, it is. The Sun is the same, if not worse. If you want to know how bad the tabloid newspapers are here in the UK I suggest 1/3
DiabolicalStench
you check out the "Controversies" section of the News of the World Wiki page and the NotW phone hacking scandal that shut the paper down 2/3
irishwhale
And The Sun.
MOTHERFUCKINGTOASTERS
I read the sun because I'm pretty sure its mostly satire, but only at work because its the only way to kill time on my breaks
irishwhale
Unfortunately plenty of people read it as actual news and form opinions...like OP...
DoctorFletcher
The only time I bought the sun was when they offered a free lego poly bag every day for a week. Threw the papers straight out though.
matteymoo2
I lost interest when they got rid of page 3
Papafern
THEY DID WHAT NOW!?
matteymoo2
No more tits
BananaShip
All that time I spent playing Fallout is going to pay off.
Actualdeadpool
Also, I'm rich.
BananaShip
you have a bottle cap collection?
Actualdeadpool
Yes. It took a lot of time and coke.
BananaShip
Is it nuka cola?
Actualdeadpool
ActuallyKarl
*dies within 2 seconds*
StrokeFlavoured
This guy gets it.
TwoHorndUnicorn
thank god i have been saving all my bottle caps for the past 3 years, if i dont die in the initial explosions, i should be ok.
WyldeChilde
Get ready to become ghouls!
jPharm
Have you gotten your vault invitation yet?
BananaShip
Vault 11, sounds like a lucky number
LordStarkillerHimself
I got an invitation from Vault 101. It's kinda far away (I don't live near D.C.) but hey, it's an invitation
ScoobidyBop
Shit, I didn't get an invitation. Can I access that online??
Actualdeadpool
I got vault 87
WhileYouWereReadingThisLongNameIstoleYourCookies
In fallout Russia and the US are buddies, I don't know how it will change anything but I'm just saying
Actualdeadpool
The relationship was tenuous at best, actually.
MaxweIIhaus
Replace China in Fallout lore with Russia. New game: Fallout Go.
BananaShip
http://imgur.com/M2nRvOX.gif
TrijezniMujo
Man, they should make a fallout game for phones. One that isn't a shelter sim.
GodOfTheBumbleBees
I'd love that. Raid stores, kill strangely dressed hobos, pick random ass locks, just for the experience and have a trusty dog companion...
WhileYouWereReadingThisLongNameIstoleYourCookies
You don't need a nuclear war to do that in Russia
RandomlyAppointedNSAAgent
If you survive the 200 years it takes for fallout to happen.
CogPrimus
Just gotta ghoul up, bro.
TracynKyrayc
200 ? Nah, the first Fallout takes place in 2161, 84 years after the Great War.
flippetrippiehippie
I'll be good, I'll be in a fridge with the ghoul kid
TwoHorndUnicorn
my question is, how are there still cardboard boxes in great condition after 200 years?
Vandammit
Probably made with asbestos, the fallout universe is set kinda in the 50s
TwoHorndUnicorn
i have asked this multiple times and never received a better response
Vandammit
Its really all I can think of, plus lead based paints and inks will preserve paper.
MoistMyEvilMoistureBuddy
No worries. As long as you survive the blast the worst that'll happen is you turn into a super mutant.
Zokathra
*feral ghoul
MoistTissue
get your facts straight. They are made with FEV. Aka green goo
BananaShip
It's fine as long as your goal is to become a ghoul
pengu228
Let's start dipping
MoistMyEvilMoistureBuddy
Okay I'm not a fallout expert, I thought it was caused by radiation
TrijezniMujo
You are so not surviving the nuclear apocalips.
Rorik21
No. Radiation causes ghouls, and FEV creates super mutants.