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Wi1s0ne
Harry Potter makes me proud to be British
iknowwhatwillhitfrontpage
I dont think they can do this anymore
Jayyce
@MobaNR
cleverwittyusername
Don't forget that when Ginny went missing they could have used it to find her and didn't
angrysharks
He's dead now
Gentlemanriot
I smell heresy.
DankVoodoo
TheWinterTitan
Does someone have this as all one picture?
WhyDoPeopleLoveToHateSuperman
Would the map show them looking at the map and so forth and so forth?
ArielUnderfoot
Benjaminriker
I am an anarchist. Jif
crodthegod
Did u just fucking put "jif" to start a war!?!?! ITS FUCKING GIF!!!!
Benjaminriker
Yes
crodthegod
Oh ok ;)
MemeDissector
Oh look, Harry and Ginny seem to have bumped into each other. and again. and again and again and again... oh god.
Doctadeth
In one of the map scenes, you can see a boy and girl....yeah, having a quickie. It's a blink and you'll miss it moment
irrimn
https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/harry_potter_kinky.gif
salsififorsale
WTF? TF!
canadianreserve
Omg hahaha
OrdoXenosAgent
Get out of here you crimson skinned nerd. For the Emperor
fe1od1or
MemeDissector
Yeah yeah, the spiel's always the same, but there's a reason the Chaos primarchs are still around and yours are all dead or missing.
TheRepeaterTheRepeater
Hasn't Leman Russ returned? I'm not super up to date on the fluff but I hear shit is getting real and Primarchs are starting to come back.
MemeDissector
Magnus has returned to realspace, another black crusade is getting all the other daemon primarchs involved too. no word on the loyalists.
springlake
The only things we know about the Russ is that all his stuff was found at an altar of Khorne in the Eye of Terror.
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Could you give a quote or chapter please. Ive read the books 13 seperate times and i dont remember this part
LeMemePrince
I just realised I might have confused the book and the movie, sorry! The Marauder's Map scene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHd1wYER-DO
LeMemePrince
I'll try find it in the book
LeMemePrince
Yet it clearly describes Peter Pettigrew on the map in the third book while he is in animagus form
GrayWhiteShark
Because Lupin knew Peter's animagus form. That's the loop hole. Thus why lupin could but the twins couldn't.
LeMemePrince
Oh definitely, they didn't have any knowledge of Peter and the implications right? Probably thought it was another student
LeMemePrince
Also, they didn't bother using the map before the third book apparently
CaptainCabinetsTrappedInCabinets
Oooh there's a huge snake living in the walls. Meh.
kawwmoi
I don't know if it was just the movie version, but the map showed their footprints so a snake would be invisible to it.
CaptainCabinetsTrappedInCabinets
Good point!
Mistruths
it was just dots in the book. That said, it only shows named creatures.
TheGhastHunter
I think the basilisk had a title, if not a name. It was called The Beast of Salazar Slytherin
BaronVonMadScience
Fred & George told Harry that they never bothered using the map by the time Harry/Ron started there. So, these aren't plotholes.
Nikagor
Thats not an explanation, but lazy writting, stuff Rowling loves to do, introduce a concept..have some weird stipulation noone ever used it.
Pazuzu4All
Rowling never intended it to become the serious fantasy series it did and it shows with all the plot holes.
Nikagor
While it took ages to publish, the first book was almost immedeatly succesfull even if we say it took till 99 that still is no explanation
Bitterkandy
That in itself is a bit of a plothole. Why would these two not use the maps to locate teachers and specific others to prank?
bunhilda
dilutes the challenge
Bitterkandy
Now that's a reason I can get behind.
BaronVonMadScience
Because the map is literally dozens of pages in size with thousands of people shown on it in tiny writing. Not worth it.
Bitterkandy
If these two memorised the map, it wouldn't be hard to navigate, and in most cases the teachers wander alone.
HalfPint3895
But why? That's usefull
weliveinaspaceshipdear
Because they used it to find secret passages not spy on people and by then they'd memorized them all
Houyo
They were just that good at what they did. They were the Solid Snakes of pranking.
nobodyblindedme
The Twin Snakes...?
coolguycoolguy
This is a good comment and you should feel good about it
mu6iwaraluffy
Because there's always excuses when people point out plotholes in Harry Potter novels/movies. JK Rowling is infallable.
weliveinaspaceshipdear
Because this is explained in the books already. Just not in the movies. Because they didn't have eight billion hours.
mu6iwaraluffy
Right but the explanation itself is a plothole. It doesnt fit their characters. Also, my statement wasn't referring to just that situation.
weliveinaspaceshipdear
I've read through many lists of hundreds of movie "plot holes" and have never found one that wasn't explained in the books. Whether it...
GamingRooster
the reason that they could not see pettegrew was because the 4 marauders made the map so they did not on it incase it ever got stolen
SecretPeter
Your grammar on this is confusing, but this is an important point :)
GamingRooster
Meh just a theory I read some place on the interweps
Daedravex
Peter Pettigrew did show up on the map, there is a scene where Harry and Ron see him get closer and closer to them, then just pass them.
GamingRooster
hmmmm, well there goes that theory
CentimetersOfEther
Only Harry sees 'Peter Pettigrew' on the map, and that too only in the books. JKR explains (1)
CentimetersOfEther
it here: http://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/11447/why-couldnt-harry-or-anybody-else-see-peter-pettigrew-aka-scabbers-on-the-marau (2)
CristhianIR
Even more weird is why nobody ever thought of going back in time to prevent Voldemort's rise. Instead, just Hermione taking more classes..
BallerinaDalekForeverSpinningAndSpinningItsTragicYouMofos
You breally should read The Cursed Child script! Relevant!
CristhianIR
Will do
urvogelarts
I'd still like to know why Harry can't see the thestrals at the end of book four, but suddenly can at the beginning of book five.
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Its not actually specified how long it takes for the threstles to be seen. It might take up to 3 months for the ability to develop
Sonicdahedgie
Even muggles have hundreds of movies on why you shouldn't fucking do that.
peridotstar
Enjoy :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsYWT5Q_R_w "How It Should Have Ended (HISHE) did a thing involving this its hella good
kawwmoi
Fixed point in time.
CristhianIR
Doctooor!!
CristhianIR
Or why when something, anything is burning, no one uses Aquamenti or any other spell to stop the fires..
kawwmoi
How many people do you know that would actually think to grab a fire extinguisher as they're passing it?
chocolatecatwizard
Because most magical fires can't be put out with ordinary magic.
CristhianIR
I'm dreaming about a future Harry Potter reboot, bringing a dark mood to every character in the series.
CristhianIR
But like, a very darker tone.. Maybe not movies, maybe just anime-like.. There's just so many things that could've been better..
LadyCottonHead
Such as?
CristhianIR
The whole Sectum-semptra story.. The Harry-Draco fight..
LadyCottonHead
So.. Cool effects, basically? Nothing to do with the actual story..
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CristhianIR
Just this morning I saw again the Half-blood Prince.. Was thinking about the seven killings Riddle had to commit to forge every horcrux..
DeathDove
And?
Darksnider05
Their not unspecified anymore needless to say time travel is a terrible idea, beyond a couple of hours.
Borys610
Isn't that the plot of the new book everyone is talking about?
digitalutopia
Fantastic beasts is apparently based in NA.
wimpyhugz
Not Fantastic Beasts, that book has been out for a long time now. Referring to "The Cursed Child".
digitalutopia
Oh. That's the book that shall not be named.
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FreddieMercurey
And they really only use it to sneak around at night not stalk friends and siblings.
septillion
not to mention all the different floors, just to make it more complicated
XavierWolf
28 students a year, thats ~200 students, plus 13 teachers, librarians, and caretakers isn't a tonne of people to fill a castle...
elizabethalis13
Harry's year specifically is very small because of how many people Voldemort killed that didn't have children or who's children died.
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Pazuzu4All
She also said that there are 40 kids in Harry's year and that she's bad at math.
XavierWolf
There is no way! She says that but with 7-9 kids in a year per house the math doesn't add up. Thousands of house elves maybe!
Delathi
There's also the population slump due to the timing from the first Voldemort troubles.
Rezol
What are you getting 7-9 kids from though? Maybe 7-9 per class per year per house but that still seems very few.
XavierWolf
From counting the classes mostly. It wouldn't make sense to have multiple dorms per gender per year...
CliffordJohnsonMiller
Not at night, according to the movies.
watsisface1
Well, the people outside of the dormitories would be very few and far between, so yeah, it would be a lot easier at night.
HeartsAndStars
Movies aren't canon, so I will chalk it up to the inferiority of muggle filmmaking :)
Scaramucci
But the same problem exists in the books too, doesn't it?
Casswigirl11
That's because most people are in bed at night. Or you look for them where you think they'll be?
Roshure
Well ya that's the only time it's useful because then you can see people.
delgesuxx
Wait, it's fucking real??
Menasyng
Yep. It's part of an entire universe created for people to enjoy. Let them.
thespanishinquisit0r
Or whenever else it is relevant to the plot
IusedtobeapervertIstillambutIusedtobetoo
Ding!
SovereignPhantasmia
Dong
SovereignPhantasmia
Harry's real magical power: plot progression
MrT800
For Voldemort (would show as Tom Riddle) and Barty Crouch, fine, but they would *definitely* look at Ron and Ginny, if only for pranks...
SoupCanMan
The map only worked at Hogwarts. Harry never knew everyone, you could conclud the twins didn't either. Just assume he was a class mate.
imakeeper
And Ron and Pettigrew would be in bed together.
raavatis
But there's still the problem of Ginny
Spiderbubble
They did give it away to Harry because they barely used it, since they knew all the secrets. Still Ron is an issue here.
SecretPeter
I agree, but kind of doubt they looked at it that much, and when they did it may well have been for the secret passages rather than people.
SoupCanMan
Didn't the Basilisk attack like 4 times? Picking 4 random days to stalk your sister would be out of character for lazy pranksters.
SoupCanMan
Also, don't stare too long at plot holes that are more like shallow divots. The biggest plot hole was not stealing 5000 time turners.
GapingHeadwound
Wouldn't Voldemort appear as Tom Riddle, though?
GhillieTrollAskold
So a dude named Tom Riddle would be balancing on Quirrel's head.
TywinStannister
Depends. Maybe he had it legally changed?
NotTimon
I like to think the map is magic and doesn't care much about legality, but it can detect what you consider your name go be somehow
supersharkdinosaur
His official name was Tom Riddle.
Altaneen
He whose name shall not be legally changed.
MarisaTomei
I highly doubt he waltzed into the Ministry and had his name changed to Lord Voldemort.
369ItsAlwaysAGoodTime
But the funny thing about that is, no one can prove he didn't. (Except Rowling)
Scaramucci
I might be wrong, but I seem to remember he became Voldemort before the full extent of his intentions were known.
BeesechurgerProductions
Well I mean, he WAS minister for a time, maybe he changed it then?
CabNumber1729
He wasn't ever minister. And he wasn't in control of the ministry until book 7 wedding chapter.
MarisaTomei
This.
HeWhoLies
That raises the question of how does the map know if you did that? Like if a woman got married, would she have the new name or the old one?
Dreigiau
Maybe it goes off of what people call them? Rowling magic was kinda made up as she went along
ConfessionBare
I'm thinking.... Magic?
DankS0uls
M A G I C
UnwarrantedCalculus
Come on now. Magic, obviously.
XavierWolf
Moaning myrtle showed up as moaning myrtle, so it stands that adopted names would be on the map. Maybe as long as he assumed the (1/2)
XavierWolf
Identity of scabbers, he showed up as scabbers.
kymidd
I love this theory!
Wolf2Worrior
Or Wormtail, even.
areallycreativeusername
Do animals show up? If not the it should still be a flag
baldricka
The same way it knows where you are
TinyRickRoll
Thank you.
baldricka
Much welcome!
NoodleKeeper
Good response
baldricka
Thanks!
Rezol
Then Pettigrew would have showed as Scabbers all along. Also Voldemort wasn't really a complete being in the first book.
prozack8356
Even then it never showed pets did it?
summersunny
Didn't it show Mrs. Norris?
Rezol
Yes it did show pets.
BishlamekGurpgork
The map is not supposed to be fooled by animagi. Being fooled by nicknames . . . who knows? Magic can be stupid sometimes.
cobrita
Didn't Harry actually follow the map at some point when it showed Peter Pettigrew?
IREALLYLIKEREDHEADEDWOMEN
Yes, in the third book. So really the twins wouldn't know about Moody. That'd be on Harry.
LordSupergreat
It would either show Voldemort or Peter Pettigrew. It wouldn't show one nickname and one real name.
MickChester
So it would be either real names (Tom Riddle, Peter Pettigrew) or nicknames (Voldemort, Scabbers)
lcplspanky
And since it's a world of magic, Voldemort may have masked himself and others from such things
idonthaveanameforthis
1) Or, considering the makers of the map, Scabbers? I've read a theory about the map, and it says that just in case anyone else figured out
idonthaveanameforthis
2) The map, they would want the fact that James, Remus, Sirius, and Peter change forms, so it would hide their identities to save them.