I have two thinkpads one is a x230 I have manjaro on which im regretting since I updated it 5 days apart and broke the whole OS. I have a X1 carbon I use for college when I went so I wouldn't get people staring at my thick dinosaur laptop.
My beloved Thinkpad X1 Carbon from 2011 still runs just fine. Granted I've got a pretty stripped down linux install on there. As life support for a web browser and a few chat clients it's more than fast enough.
I actually just moved my primary daily driver setup from a nearly-new 13th gen i7 to a 10 year old 4th gen i5. It does everything I need on the desktop (Linux Mint), and there are 3 or 4 things that I still need to run Windows for (Insta360 Studio, scanner and label printer, security camera software) so I opted to full time the machine that could run Windows 11 and still get updates after next year.
I built some multi-screen presentation computers back in 2011. I sold them to a business in 2016 and they were still viable. They still have them, but are retired from presentation work. One of them is now running a database.
They could still be used for their original purpose for simpler shows as well.
I only changed my i5 4570 pc from 2013 last year. I upgraded it some over the years but the cpu and mobo chugged along like champs, often working like 3 days in a row downloading, rendering or what have you. It still worked fine on Win10 with 24 gigs of ram for every kind of daily use. If I hadn't wanted to render faster and try out some newer games I wouldn't haven even switched.
If my laptop sleeps for more than around 2-3 hours, it gets possessed and starts open/closing windows, clicking on things, volume up and down. I have to turn it off every night or leave it awake
my 12 year old asus laptop with for the time astonishing 32gb ram still works. i only replaced the hdd to a 2.5" ssd. but it's not worthy for win 11... and the battery is dead.. i guess it's time to look for a replacement
Honestly 15y/o hardware still does pretty good imo. If the web wasn't so fuckin' bloated these days it would be fine as my daily driver. but alas, web developers feel the need to cram as much javascript into every corner of every webpage for some reason.My Dell Latitude e6410 is still serving faithfully as my media center PC and my first custom built computer is running to this day as my NAS/adguard home/Plex media server with no issues.
There's a reason the 2012 MBP was manufactured even up until 2016. One of the last and best user repairable/upgradable laptops Apple made. I have a late '15 vintage 2012 MBP that I dropped an SSD in and it runs just as fast as any of my newer laptops. It's sturdy enough that I don't worry about tossing it in my bag, and still has phenomenal battery life. It's not my best or newest laptop, but it does seem to be the one I grab when I know I'm going to be out of town for a couple of days.
My Asus laptop is probably around 15+ years old. It still does a sterling job playing me episodes from my favourite TV shows as I go to sleep. The fan is loud, it's heavy, and for anything else it's slow. But that little trooper has helped me get to sleep most nights for a very very long time. o7
The 2 best things you can do to an old laptop: get an SSD, put Linux on it. And possibly also max out the memory. But Linux will get your laptop to 15yo with full functions (playing videos, etc...)
I also have an ASUS laptop, around ten years old. The battery needs replaced, I need to clean it out, and I'm thinking of switching to Linux on it since it's been running slow. That being said, as long as I have it plugged into a wall outlet it works just fine and was my work horse computer when writing and recording my radio play podcast. I love that machine.
Mate, change the HDD for a SSD if you haven't yet. My laptop came back to life after I did. It probably runs even better than when I bought it back then.
I can only second that. I finally got my dad to switch to an SSD 3 years ago, and the day after I installed it he called me all excitedly (after booting up for the first time) about how fast everything was!
Unfortunately the noise seems to be a dodgy bearing, not dust. I've tried to source a new fan unit for it but every one I find is different and doesn't fit. It's such an old model now that parts are non existent unfortunately.
The increase in computing power has slowed down to the pace where a 10 year old computer is perfectly fine for everyday stuff. Only component that gets old in that time is the GPU, and that's required only if you're into gaming, 3D rendering or running local AI.
Laptop might need a battery change and upgrade to 32 gigs of RAM
My 5930K 6core is still going strong. NVMe PCIe SSD, 48GB DDR4 quad channel, 40 PCIe 3.0 lanes. Two sets of SSD RAID-0 arrays. 10gbe, used to have SLI. Looking to replace it now, and I'm going to have to compromise somewhere now.
This. I'm still using a 2014 Mac for everything except major gaming. The only upgrades I've done are the disk and the RAM. For the past couple years, I look every now and then at the latest Mac desktops, but haven't jumped yet.
It's less that the pace of computing increase has slowed down (although it has) and more that we've reached the limit of computational difficulty for accomplishing specific goals. It turns out that you can do audio storage, mixing, and playback at full speed with hardware from the late 90s / early 2000s, and limits of human perception eliminate the value of adding more work to the task.
We can make more and more inefficient audio libraries, but playback alone is a solved problem.
And newer GPUs are really only necessary for gaming if you want to run the newest AAA games at highest settings. If you got a high-end GPU 10 years ago and you're playing 5+ year old games and don't care about the highest settings you'll generally be able to play older AAA games, plus plenty of new indie and AA games will run perfectly fine on 10 yo GPUs.
CPUs got maybe twice as fast in that time, as single threaded performance is concerned. At least for gaming you definitely do "need" that. Keep that GPU fed as much as possible.
Yes! My 2013 Lenovo laptop came with a platter main drive and somehow a 24 gig m.2 2242 ssd that was completely useless. I upgraded that shit to 500gb and put the windows partition on it and it was like a new machine.
For the last 5 years I've bought nothing but 3-5 year old out of lease Dell business grade laptops for me and family and friends. A 5 year old Latitude, crank in 32G RAM and a new SSD and it's going to keep the average YouTube surfer happy for years. I paid $200 for the last one just last month and it's a fine machine.
eBay. There are a bunch of refurb houses. I've not had any trouble with any of them yet. The last one I bought from a place that had sold several hundred of the same model, that's probably a very safe bet.
I may have a tab hoarding problem. Also maybe I'm not really one who can speak of "everyday use" on a PC, because I end up doing all kinds of weird setups on every piece of hardware I get.
Because as it turns out, *not* buying something you don't need and will never make use of is even cheaper than buying it because it's cheap.
I have 16 GB and I regularly multitask with RAM heavy stuff. Multiple chrome tabs including one streaming video, a game, rendering something in the background, and whatever other stuff I happen to have open in the background. I NEVER use more than 70% of my RAM.
More RAM will NOT make your computer run faster unless you're actually near or at 100% usage.
Yeah, I love you too. I’ll always opt for more ram if it’s cost effective. If you can significantly increase the amount of system memory by just spending another $30-40 bucks, why not? A quick check on Newegg shows 16GB DDR5 is around $60-$70. 32GB is around $100. It’s not like it’s breaking the bank, and I’m certainly not mr. moneybags. Also, future proofing, etc. But sure, I’m obviously a brain-dead moron for using an iPhone.
SuperDrops
My old lappy's speakers have gone tinny and it sucks
n3rdsquared
I have two thinkpads one is a x230 I have manjaro on which im regretting since I updated it 5 days apart and broke the whole OS. I have a X1 carbon I use for college when I went so I wouldn't get people staring at my thick dinosaur laptop.
MidnightBaelfire
I have a small Dell laptop that is either 20 or 21 years old. I can get it to boot up. Anything else takes forever to start and then lags like crazy
MacDinero
My 2015 MacBook Air can still stream and works for browsing. My 2009 MacBook Pro is my home server!
LeumisRichardson
I have an 18 year old Alienware laptop that has a 19" screen. I put rabbit ears on it and occasionally use it to watch over the air TV.
TheMouseOfMadness
My beloved Thinkpad X1 Carbon from 2011 still runs just fine. Granted I've got a pretty stripped down linux install on there. As life support for a web browser and a few chat clients it's more than fast enough.
jaddodd
My 2008 Asus 701sd still plays movies from my server with Kodi, Internet radio via VLC. Not quite time to go gently into that goodnight.
Mohareb
Have an old lenovo W520 that i bought in 2012. It's still running to this day, though it for sure isn't feeling as fast as back then
JonWallace1985
I haven’t been able to upgrade to the latest OSX in a while, but it still works for me.
Snooj
For me it's "Can you still connect to Netflix so I can watch movies while I'm running?"
TurboCartoonSmuggler
Not every mobo can actually use 32GB Ram - it's such a blanket recommendation that's seldom useful
Baronaccio
Kodi running on my old workplace Acer laptop (at home! XD) like a pro
jridley
I actually just moved my primary daily driver setup from a nearly-new 13th gen i7 to a 10 year old 4th gen i5. It does everything I need on the desktop (Linux Mint), and there are 3 or 4 things that I still need to run Windows for (Insta360 Studio, scanner and label printer, security camera software) so I opted to full time the machine that could run Windows 11 and still get updates after next year.
SoundBites
I built some multi-screen presentation computers back in 2011. I sold them to a business in 2016 and they were still viable. They still have them, but are retired from presentation work. One of them is now running a database.
They could still be used for their original purpose for simpler shows as well.
Tol1as
I only changed my i5 4570 pc from 2013 last year. I upgraded it some over the years but the cpu and mobo chugged along like champs, often working like 3 days in a row downloading, rendering or what have you. It still worked fine on Win10 with 24 gigs of ram for every kind of daily use. If I hadn't wanted to render faster and try out some newer games I wouldn't haven even switched.
Gra55hopper
My Mac from 2018: this app/program/website requires an OS upgrade that is unavailable to you, peasant.
Jinxies
I use my old smartphone for this purpose. It's stationed in my bathroom and paired an old Bluetooth speaker so I can rock out in the shower.
EmeraldLight
If my laptop sleeps for more than around 2-3 hours, it gets possessed and starts open/closing windows, clicking on things, volume up and down. I have to turn it off every night or leave it awake
LiverpoolFC2020
Mac!
Ryzanify
:)
IMCloseToTheEdge
my 12 year old asus laptop with for the time astonishing 32gb ram still works. i only replaced the hdd to a 2.5" ssd.
but it's not worthy for win 11... and the battery is dead.. i guess it's time to look for a replacement
kamosey
2013 Mac imguring for me right now, happily trucking on.
Drives11
Honestly 15y/o hardware still does pretty good imo. If the web wasn't so fuckin' bloated these days it would be fine as my daily driver. but alas, web developers feel the need to cram as much javascript into every corner of every webpage for some reason.My Dell Latitude e6410 is still serving faithfully as my media center PC and my first custom built computer is running to this day as my NAS/adguard home/Plex media server with no issues.
abeansits
But think of the poor advertisement revenues if you turn off things like JavaScript!
Sebastopol140
Right in the feels!

RowanUnderwood
Been rocking the ASUS ROG G750 for exactly ten years. Still a beast.
tesseract4d2
I have one! I also have a G74, they're both fine for simple stuff, light gaming or media enter stuff. I rip dvd's with the g750 sometimes.
BaBaDuuk
I take this as a personal attack
CanuckleheadCan
My Mac Book Pro is from 2012! Got a newish HD last year and she's running just fine.
xxValiumxx
There's a reason the 2012 MBP was manufactured even up until 2016. One of the last and best user repairable/upgradable laptops Apple made. I have a late '15 vintage 2012 MBP that I dropped an SSD in and it runs just as fast as any of my newer laptops. It's sturdy enough that I don't worry about tossing it in my bag, and still has phenomenal battery life. It's not my best or newest laptop, but it does seem to be the one I grab when I know I'm going to be out of town for a couple of days.
Slugsie
My Asus laptop is probably around 15+ years old. It still does a sterling job playing me episodes from my favourite TV shows as I go to sleep. The fan is loud, it's heavy, and for anything else it's slow. But that little trooper has helped me get to sleep most nights for a very very long time. o7
jesuisgur
The 2 best things you can do to an old laptop: get an SSD, put Linux on it. And possibly also max out the memory. But Linux will get your laptop to 15yo with full functions (playing videos, etc...)
IamGelatinSkelly
I also have an ASUS laptop, around ten years old. The battery needs replaced, I need to clean it out, and I'm thinking of switching to Linux on it since it's been running slow. That being said, as long as I have it plugged into a wall outlet it works just fine and was my work horse computer when writing and recording my radio play podcast. I love that machine.
Poipoine
And it probably have a cd/dvd player. Those are rare these times
ChocolateCookieAndFudge
Mate, change the HDD for a SSD if you haven't yet. My laptop came back to life after I did. It probably runs even better than when I bought it back then.
Hellscourge
I can only second that. I finally got my dad to switch to an SSD 3 years ago, and the day after I installed it he called me all excitedly (after booting up for the first time) about how fast everything was!
NorthSideSoldier
Could probably clean the dust and hair out of that fan to run a little quieter.
Makerofroads
Of you keep it clean, and reformat every so often and copy back over music, a laptop will run music for so long.
Slugsie
Unfortunately the noise seems to be a dodgy bearing, not dust. I've tried to source a new fan unit for it but every one I find is different and doesn't fit. It's such an old model now that parts are non existent unfortunately.
usernamesarenotcomments
The increase in computing power has slowed down to the pace where a 10 year old computer is perfectly fine for everyday stuff. Only component that gets old in that time is the GPU, and that's required only if you're into gaming, 3D rendering or running local AI.
Laptop might need a battery change and upgrade to 32 gigs of RAM
dashers
My 5930K 6core is still going strong. NVMe PCIe SSD, 48GB DDR4 quad channel, 40 PCIe 3.0 lanes. Two sets of SSD RAID-0 arrays. 10gbe, used to have SLI. Looking to replace it now, and I'm going to have to compromise somewhere now.
FoxySpirit
Yeah, my old 4770k based platform keeps on trucking. Just a repaste, 16gb more RAM and a 4060 I got used and it's good for the next few years.
hybridjamaican
Naw, computers of that age you can still just download the RAM that you need
riddmkidd
And new thermal paste every two years. Laptops overheat and thus slow down because the heat sink compound dries out.
jursamaj
This. I'm still using a 2014 Mac for everything except major gaming. The only upgrades I've done are the disk and the RAM. For the past couple years, I look every now and then at the latest Mac desktops, but haven't jumped yet.
smashpro1
Should definitely blow out all the dust and replace the thermal paste on the CPU, though.
porcinechoirmaster
It's less that the pace of computing increase has slowed down (although it has) and more that we've reached the limit of computational difficulty for accomplishing specific goals. It turns out that you can do audio storage, mixing, and playback at full speed with hardware from the late 90s / early 2000s, and limits of human perception eliminate the value of adding more work to the task.
We can make more and more inefficient audio libraries, but playback alone is a solved problem.
sofako41404
And newer GPUs are really only necessary for gaming if you want to run the newest AAA games at highest settings. If you got a high-end GPU 10 years ago and you're playing 5+ year old games and don't care about the highest settings you'll generally be able to play older AAA games, plus plenty of new indie and AA games will run perfectly fine on 10 yo GPUs.
BestRivenSupport
Mines literally 9 years old and still pumps a solid 170 fps, now it can’t run Plague Tale 2 but what on this earth can?
Wolfos
CPUs got maybe twice as fast in that time, as single threaded performance is concerned. At least for gaming you definitely do "need" that. Keep that GPU fed as much as possible.
WhatzitTooya
Best thing I ever did to my old laptop is shoving in an SSD.
mirria
Yes! My 2013 Lenovo laptop came with a platter main drive and somehow a 24 gig m.2 2242 ssd that was completely useless. I upgraded that shit to 500gb and put the windows partition on it and it was like a new machine.
ChocolateCookieAndFudge
Me too! I did that to my personal laptop, it feels like a completely new machine! The screen resolution is still crap though.
PyllyNalleMissionaries
Best thing i ever did was install Linux, so much faster to boot and way more responsive
jridley
For the last 5 years I've bought nothing but 3-5 year old out of lease Dell business grade laptops for me and family and friends. A 5 year old Latitude, crank in 32G RAM and a new SSD and it's going to keep the average YouTube surfer happy for years. I paid $200 for the last one just last month and it's a fine machine.
nagesagi
Where are you able to get this?
jridley
eBay. There are a bunch of refurb houses. I've not had any trouble with any of them yet. The last one I bought from a place that had sold several hundred of the same model, that's probably a very safe bet.
CaptainAsshat
32 GB of RAM for everyday stuff? Fucking lmao, is this comment sponsored?
IHaveUnpopularOpinions
Seriously, I've recently noticed games having a minimum requirement of 16 GB of ram, it was a weird feeling 😅
usernamesarenotcomments
I may have a tab hoarding problem. Also maybe I'm not really one who can speak of "everyday use" on a PC, because I end up doing all kinds of weird setups on every piece of hardware I get.
VodkaReindeer
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mirria
Yes, I will marry you.
DoIEvenLyftBro
That should be enough to cover like 8-10 tabs in Chrome, yeah
CheeseGreaterGood
Given how cheap ram is, why not?
Badprenup
Because as it turns out, *not* buying something you don't need and will never make use of is even cheaper than buying it because it's cheap.
I have 16 GB and I regularly multitask with RAM heavy stuff. Multiple chrome tabs including one streaming video, a game, rendering something in the background, and whatever other stuff I happen to have open in the background. I NEVER use more than 70% of my RAM.
More RAM will NOT make your computer run faster unless you're actually near or at 100% usage.
CaptainAsshat
"via iPhone" tells the whole story here.
CheeseGreaterGood
Yeah, I love you too. I’ll always opt for more ram if it’s cost effective. If you can significantly increase the amount of system memory by just spending another $30-40 bucks, why not? A quick check on Newegg shows 16GB DDR5 is around $60-$70. 32GB is around $100. It’s not like it’s breaking the bank, and I’m certainly not mr. moneybags. Also, future proofing, etc. But sure, I’m obviously a brain-dead moron for using an iPhone.
CaptainAsshat
Future proofing a 15 year old laptop? You might be a braindead moron yeah, the iPhone is just a symptom, not a cause.