My favorite scene from Lord of the Rings, and the history behind it.

Aug 20, 2017 2:13 AM

113Hertz

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This is one of my favorite shots of the entire film series because of the immense history in it. In this scene, Aragorn is in effect claiming the palantír, his by right as heir to the kingdom of Gondor, to declare himself openly to Sauron.

The palantíri were "seeing stones" brought by king Elendil, following the destruction of Númenor. This is one of seven, ranging from about bowling ball sized, to the biggest, originally kept in the capitol city of Osgiliath. They were gifted to the men of Numenor by the Elves of Tol Eresëa, and were used to communicate across vast distances. But they were created by Fëanor, the greatest craftsman who ever lived. The palantíri were nearly indestructible, and of what substance they were made, and with what skill is a mystery. Fëanor would go on to construct the Silmarils, the three holy jewels that contained the light of the Two Trees of Valinor before they were destroyed. This makes the palantíri at least 7,100 years old. For reference, the sphinx of Giza is thought to be about 4,500 years old.

On Aragorn's finger is the Ring of Barahir. The ring originally belonged to Finrod Felegund, brother of Galadriel. The ring was given to Barahir, a man who defended him against an onslaught of orcs and saved his life in the Dagor Bragollach, or Battle of Sudden Flame in the first age. It was given as a token of friendship between men and elves for all eternity. Barahir barely escaped the battle alive and wandered with his son, Beren and a few of his surviving men as outlaws. Sauron tricked one of his men and tortured him for Barahir's whereabouts, then killed him cruelly. Barahir and his men were killed, but Beren was out on a scouting mission. He came across the orcs who had killed them, mockingly playing with Barahir's severed hand, still wearing the ring. Beren charged the reveling orcs, running through their camp and snatched his father's dismembered hand and ran off into the darkness. He lived in the wild, and managed to cross the Ered Gorgoroth, the Mountains of Terror, haunted by monsters and possibly the birthplace of Shelob. He came after a time to Neldoreth, where he first saw Lúthien dancing in the woods.

This brings us to the third artefact in the image, which is harder to see. The veins in the back of Aragorn's hand contain the blood of Men, Elves and Ainur. As stated before, Beren found Lúthien in the woods of Neldoreth, and the two fell in love. But Lúthien was the child of Thingol, the Elf king of Doriath, and Melian of the Maiar. The Maiar were immortal beings that existed before, and physically created the world. They were not gods, but angelic spirits that came from the mind of the one God, Eru Iluvatar. Melian was of the lesser order of these spirits, collectively called Ainu, and wedded Thingol when the Elves were first emerging into the wider world. Beren and Lúthien had a son named Dior, who fathered a daughter named Elwing, who wedded Eärendil, a Man. They had twin sons, Elros and Elrond. The twins, having being half Elf and half man were granted a choice of which kindred they would live as. Elrond chose to remain an Elf, but Elros chose men. He would go on to be the first king of Númenor. Thus the blood in Aragorn's veins is that of Man, Elf and Ainur.

Honestly, there are so many different names and nouns that are just jumbled letters in that paragraph, that my eyes glazed over.

6 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

I was expecring @Ngugi when I saw this post. Very nice post, @113Hertz

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Good summary :)

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Woah, i never knew about the ring. Awesome!

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Wow neeerd, I love it.

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Thank you:)

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(wipes a tear) the Tale of Beren and Luthien is my favorite story in the Simarillion.

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Excellent use of the Silmarillion! My nerdy household approves

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@Ngugi

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Thanks for the heads up :)

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In the books Wormtounge threw a long lost Palantir at Gandalf and the Hobbits in a fit of rage while he and Sauroman were trapped in Orthanc

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This lead to Gandalf and the Hobbits learning Sauron's plans and turned the tide of the war.

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lotr - lovely offering totally read

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Obligatory

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I love this shit. I just wish the Sillmarilion was an easier read. Maybe not The Hobbit-easy, but easier.

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Fun fact - in the first draft of Beren&Luthien, Beren was a gnome.

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@hockeyfighter69

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Living for it

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I have a LOTR folder if you guys are interested in more posts like these

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I was thinking of doing other historical backgrounds on the items in the movies, but I'd love to see your stuff as well

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Man! Where do you find out about this stuff?

6 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

In books....

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Read The Silmarillion!

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They really glaze over that Agent Smith is half human in the movies. In the comics, Red Skull is always called Elrond Half-elf.

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Books. Not comics. Though I bet there's comics too.

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MISTER BAGGINSON...

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Welcome to Rivendell, Mr Anderson

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Viola. In view a humble vaudevillian veteran cast vicariously as both agent and elf

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I went to the restroom during this part. No wonder nothing makes sense in my life.

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You've only seen it once?!?

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Eärendil also became a fucking star, carrying one of the Silmails across the sky forever.

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So Aragorn ended up boning a distant cousin?

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Don't we all?

6 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

we're all distant cousins if you go back far enough.

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A few thousand years distant, yes. You have closer inbreeding within your own family history due to town sizes and whatnot

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I mean yes, my paternal family comes from a former small island, incest was rampant there, though there is a worse town for that in the

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Country, and that town doesn't even have the excuse of being an island

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Is all that lore from the Silmarillion?

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Yep!

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Is there any reference to the size of the largest of the palantíri?

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If I remember right, it was housed in the Dome of Stars, it's massive, like a boulder. Also technically the 'main' Palantiri.

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cool thanks!

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One correction: Eärendil was a half-elf, Idril and Tuor's kud.

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Came here to day this if no one else had.

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Yaaaay, spelling error buddies!

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Tuor doesn't get as much recognition as he deserves for escaping slavery, running around like an outlaw badass and marrying the princess.

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Crap you are right. That was dumb oversight. Thanks

6 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Eh, happens to the best of us. The best being you, you scrappy little gem of a nerd you.

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Got the same ring off EBay.

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I have no idea what the fuck you just said but I love it

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I don’t know what THE FUCK you just said little kid... but you special man.

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I need a TLDR version

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The Palantíri, The Ring and the Blood in Aragorn's veins all in the same shot represent an incredibly rich source of History(Lore) in LotR

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Really old cool stuff, and Aragorn is part elf and minor angel.

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Aragorn is keeping the bloodline pure by marrying back into the family with a distant aunt/cousin.

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The TLDR LOTR?

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So... Is the Elrond in LOTR a different one, or did Aragorn fuck his great great great great aunt or something?

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You think that's crazy, Hercules is the son of Zeus and a human woman, who is also a descendant of Zeus, Zeus is on both sides of his tree.

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He fucked his great great great aunt, yeah

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Who wouldn't, though?

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It's the same Elrond, but he's been around for thousands of years at this point, where the line of Elros is much shorter lived.

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Elros lived to be around 500, whereas Aragorn lived to be 210.

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Well this was after the sinking of numenor, the numenoreans life spans had started shortening aragorn iirc lived longer than the average

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Same fella. Old uncle father-in-law

6 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

And also married to Galadriel's daughter, which means Galadriel was Aragorn's Grandmother-in-law.

6 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Oh my dude, it's the same. Elves live for LITERAL Ages in this series. Hell, Galadriel has been around even longer than that.

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It wasn't a question of his age, it's whether they're related, which indeed they are, distantly

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Elves are literally immortal (but not invincible)

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I never said invincible lol

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They're cousins 62 to 68 times removed, so on paper yeah, but not biologically relevant. Even 6th cousins share only 0.01% genes.

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It's still funny because Elronds daughter is 1st generation, then comes Aragorn #60th generation like "Sup"

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Hey all y'all who've seen this comment- our dude, @Ngugi, has a BUNCH of EXCELLENT LOTR posts. REALLY good content. Check them out- do it!:)

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And yet we share 99% of our DNA with Chimps?

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140 characters isn't enough to teach someone biological inheritance ;) Just google on your own question and you'll find it.

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Its a 1% structural difference. Much greater difference when talking about actual encoded genes. Either way, a minute change is what makes

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you different from others.

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We share the genetic structure, not the actual genetic data. Humans share 100% of genetic structure with each other, which is what...

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makes us the same species.

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When we discuss genetic similarity between any two humans, then we are talking about actual encoded data.

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Stephen Colbert is that you?!

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That's anyone who's read Christopher Tolkien. Yall try the Children of Hurin, or the Fall of Gondolin

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?1

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Where’s that clip of him retelling events of LOTR to disprove something someone said on Tumblr?

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You have no idea how much I wanna get a beer with him and nerd out on Tolkien stuff.

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That would be super badass.

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v

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Wow! I knew he was in the movie but I never knew where

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I don't get it...

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For his devotion to the LOTR universe, Colbert got a cameo in The Hobbit trilogy. This is that cameo.

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I think those are his kids that ran by too

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Which one is him, the first or second guy walking out?

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I have difficulty with faces, but I'm almost positive he's the one with the cane and eyepatch in the foreground.

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He’s the guy that flips his eyepatch down and taps the window. :)

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