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Dec 11, 2016 8:33 AM
DoYouWantUsToGetAntsBecauseThatsHowYouGetAnts
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ProfessorDumbass
Always upvote Smart British Guy
StonesOnTheHill
It is possible to be both offended and have a good reason for it. Some seem to believe that taking offense invalidates those reasons.
rainmakerab
Did he say this or did someone type words on top of a picture of him
MultiplePersonalitiesProfile
I don't think he means what people will make of it around the web.
DrunkBarbaraWalters
Fry is going to be the first public figure whose death I will actually mourn. I really worry about the day we may lose him.
klaatubaradanickel
Stephen Fry is one of my all time favorite people. Always upvote the Fry.
jeppsson
And every manbaby on the internet uses this as an excuse to spread racism and sexism.
SenatorHillaryIAmStillInTheRaceClinton
I'm rather offended by this
violetlovesjasmine
shhep
You should remember that this man is also one of the most cultured and polite discussants in world. Even when arguing church is evil.
PICKLERICKKKKKKK
The church can definitely be evil.
moxymox
Stephen Fry: I'm pretty sure what he's saying is insightful, but he's really quite basic.
DankMemesandDepression
Well, it's all how you use it in context. If you're holding a shotgun it might have a different weight to it.
hardytardigrade
See though, he's not saying no one should ever say they are offended. This was posted out of a sense of offense that people get offended.
hardytardigrade
He's saying that being offended doesn't give you additional rights. Specifically, he's saying that when religious people are offended, it
hardytardigrade
doesn't give them the right so take away someone else's freedom of speech.
PizzaGovorun
This is offensive! I still have not figured how, but it must be!
Enderskild
I feel like this is what moral relativism leads to. Without a concrete rule for what is wrong, we are left with what bothers us. That's all.
kasaku
I never hear people say "I'm offended" I just hear people saying that people say it.
ingelri
The discourse has moved on. Now it's racist, disrespectful, hate speech, marginalising, x-phobic, and so on.
kasaku
Indeed, it's labels based on specific criteria, not on emotion.
BattloidKouji
Occam's razor, people. If everyone offended by things you say, it's likely you that's the problem, not them. Conversely, if you are (1)
BattloidKouji
offended by everything you hear, it's likely you that's the problem.
TheBlueMuppet
Or you're in the wrong part of a very, very big internet.
SoMuchPooPooSon
For a very intelligent and well spoken man, this quote seems rather childish. "You're offended? So fucking what?" That's it?
ingelri
No it doesn't. There are people who would like to censor you for exercising free expression. You should be able to understand this.
SoMuchPooPooSon
I understand it, and I have no problem with the concept. I just expected better from Stephen Fry than a 15 year old's "So fucking what?"
DoYouWantUsToGetAntsBecauseThatsHowYouGetAnts
Title is meant to be Uncle* ... what a special i am sorry.
Pandaphant
I love how out of context this is always taken.
LivingInYourIntestines
To be fair he quit twitter after criticism he got for calling someone at the BAFTA awards a 'bag lady.' Take it as you will.
LivingInYourIntestines
That being said I think he's back on now? He's lovely and I like him but he's also a bit of a funny arsehole.
MiddleSchoolHumor
What's the context?
AnneFranklyMyDearIDontGiveADamn
It was him disagreeing with The Incitement to Religious Hatred Bill which intended to make behavior that incited religious hatred illegal.
AnneFranklyMyDearIDontGiveADamn
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2005/jun/05/religion.hayfestival2005
kerms
...I don't see how people are "taking this out of context". It's not like it only applies to this very specific situation.
revcleo
Religious people being offended by gay people existing.
MiddleSchoolHumor
Oh damn. That's a little intense. I think if anything that makes me agree with the quote more
revcleo
In context it makes sense, but if people are using it to say, "I won't stop calling you a faggot." then they're fucked up.
MiddleSchoolHumor
That's true. I agree
AnneFranklyMyDearIDontGiveADamn
Source?
revcleo
Looking for the debate at the end of this article https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2005/jun/05/religion.hayfestival2005
AnneFranklyMyDearIDontGiveADamn
I'm sorry, but what does that have to do with gay people?
revcleo
Incitement to Religious Hatred is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_and_Religious_Hatred_Act_2006
maximilianfragglebottom
it gives information that the speaker is hurt. we evolved as a social species to avoid hurting each other. what's unclear?
Cac2008
I actually agree with you, this is one of the way how a society of idiotic individuals holds together. It's more stupid to ignore that.
ermagherdmyhersaberd
Offending peeps is overrated. Grow some skin and be aware that other peeps have dofferent views. `im offended` = soft cock.
moxymox
"Grow some skin and be aware that other peeps have different views." Do you see how that's hypocritical? Asking for a friend.
VeryCreativeName
maximilianfragglebottom
are you hurt by my comment in some way? i'm trying to engage with the question respectfully.
BattloidKouji
no, he's just way too edgy for you to handle.
kiayuki
Nothing's unclear people are just tried of having to censor their thoughts and ideas because someonce got offended. You can't even voice 1/
kiayuki
An opinion anymore without someone getting upset and claiming to be offended. 2:2
maximilianfragglebottom
so they want to talk but don't want to hear feedback about how their words affect the people around them
DoYouWantUsToGetAntsBecauseThatsHowYouGetAnts
Personally i don't think he's saying he doesn't want to hear it, merely that it changes nothing... You're offended? Ok cool. Good for you.
kiayuki
No people want intelligent discussion. Don't just say your offended, explain why, explain your views, have an actually talk.
maximilianfragglebottom
then the objection isn't to calling out assholes saying asshole things, it's to using blame to shut down dialogue
maximilianfragglebottom
are people downvoting because they disagree that that's what the words mean or because they think hurting feelings aren't their problem?
moxymox
OP: "Be offensive! It's fun! Fuck the cunts!" You: "Please don't be that way." Imgur: "Fuck the cunt! Fuck the cunt! Fuck the cunt!"
maximilianfragglebottom
i'm just trying to answer the question "so fucking what" as if it were a genuine attempt to engage people in dialogue
TheRealHS
But the answer to your answer is ''So fucking what?''
delpharseven
The latter. You've touched a nerve: people don't like being reminded that there are real people behind the usernames; that being a jerk 1/
delpharseven
on the Internet is real and has real world consequences. 2/2
Tanwolf
Maybe a bit of both. We didn't evolve to avoid hurting each others feelings. Plenty of people don't care if your feelings are hurt.
moxymox
please don't treat the tails of the curve as the representation.
Tanwolf
I was thinking of the way many kids use to be raised. You fall down and get a boo-boo, spit on it and move on.
moxymox
It's important to keep in mind that current generations learned their values from previous ones. There is no vacuum.
delpharseven
It depends on the connection between the people. I would say most of us do care if we hurt the feelings of most people, at least if we do 1/
delpharseven
it in person. On the Internet where we are all faceless and nameless there is a lot less empathy. As a result, trolls, online lynch mobs, 2/
delpharseven
assholes doxing people, etc. Even right here on the supposedly friendly Imgur. 3/3
MyCatLovesToHateMe
Yes, but we've gotten to the point where you literally can't say anything without someone being offended - it's pointless and impossible to
MyCatLovesToHateMe
avoid hurting anyones feelings and that shouldn't come in the way of us saying what we want to say, and that doesnt have to be ill intended
moxymox
That literally isn't literally true at literally all.
MyCatLovesToHateMe
Yes it is. Try posting something in here, there will always be an idiot who will be offended, no matter what you say.
missbelled
Have you tried being less offensive? Looked through your shit, you talk out your ass and down to people a lot. So, it's more to do with you.
MyCatLovesToHateMe
You seem pretty offended. Point and case.