Aug 25, 2022 1:54 PM
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TheHandOfAsh
Acting your wage
ahorseelbowdeepinme
It's not quiet quitting, it's acting your wage
sirdouglasbuttersworth
But why is doing what you are paid to do a form of "protest"?? It's just refusing to be taken advantage of, having boundaries.
Greenwaxy
Here the unions call it “working to contract” when teachers refuse to grade papers at home, chaperone dances for free, etc.
igorbarenschlager
I've always heard it referred to as "malicious compliance. "
sonomarco
Back in the day, we called it "Doing your job."
zoidburgerandfries
I’ll go one further… it’s called “doing your job” and not getting pulled into excel culture
fugue042
This is one repost I will always upvote.
stsword
That's what people were complaining about? People actually doing their jobs? Wow what entitled shitheads "How dare you not work for free!"
TechnoPsychoBabble
I like the term 'acting your wage'
BobsBurgerslurker
It's what I've always done. My last vacation they kept trying to call me. I said nope and dealt with it when I got back.
pleaseconsiderthatImightbejoking
As an inverse. When an employer doesnt pay you what your work os worth that is quiet wage theft
JustAnotherknarF
Lisekmaly
Im going to stick to calling it 'Doing my job" but I am thankful someone decided to explain this new method of squeezing more work from us.
v01dstar
Exactly! Doing your job should never have needed a special name like "working to rule" in the first place.
activeracer28
People have done bare minimum at their jobs for decades. Not everyone goes above and beyond.
VitaminJay
Those that do are more often rewarded with more work than material benefits.
AnythingMuchShorter
It's not like employers or land lords ever give you anything more than they are contractually and legally required to.
HippoTel
BelairJ
Working to rule is still too much. 8 full hours, plus lunch, plus 1/2 hour+ commute each way..8h turns into 11. So much for 8, 8, 8.
supermario182
Minimum wage, minimum effort
lichtly
Every time I see a "Quiet Quitting" post it reminds me to fire up Audible and chill out a bit. Thanks for the reminders!
pudaheh
The alternative to "quiet quitting" is wage theft. I don't need to remind y'all that wage theft is by far the largest type of theft.
DethShartBSideU
Gads thanks I was not woke, I thot this was actual quitting. Thank you, yeah 'work to rule' is the og term I'm 54. Luck finding meritocracy.
waspentalive
Urban Dictionary (yep I had to look it up) had a 2nd definition which was basically just to ghost your job. ---2>
---2> Walk out one day and just not come back ---3>
---3> Make a new plan Stan, No need to be coy Roy, Just listen to me - there must be 50 ways to leave your bad job.
Sechran
One of the greatest modern perversities is the idea that it's alright to demand labor without compensation, while the reverse is decried.
Unless you work in government, then compensation without actual work is the norm.
BishlamekGurpgork
Government typically has more leeway to refuse assignments that aren't in your job description, and a number of federally mandated options
To sell meditation of disputes, or the file a grievance with the outcome of a dispute. It varies by agency, but a federal employer has less
Freedom to fuck you than private industry.
Callynd
That's only cops and Republican politicians.
MangOpana
Important clarification, indeed, considering Republican lawmakers are basically getting paid solely to stop democrats from doing anything
SnaccAttacc
I was under the impression that the "quiet quitting" term was first used by the workers tho? Is that wrong?
Bukoden
Downvoting a question when someone finds out they might be misinformed and they are trying to correct that? The fuck is wrong with y'all?!
Also, I have no idea about who used what term when or first or what. Sorry I don't have any help for you on that front.
AwesomeName
And what about quiet firing? Where you assign piles and piles of additional responsibilities without adjusting compensation?
LarvaLamp
I've also heard some places will promote a person beyond their ability and then fire them for incompetence, since there's technically no>
KlatnYelox
There's a legal term for that, called constructive dismissal. If you can prove it, it counts as wrongful dismissal regardless of intent
Chattafaukup
Or make the job increasingly difficult with arbitrary things while cutting hours so they WANT to quit.
PaolaSandiego
That's mobbing :D
Noted! learn something new everyday! thanks!
Yeah. “Just make his life miserable until he resigns so we don’t have to fire him plzthxu”.
LivingDeadX
The joke's on them... I counter the misery by "quiet quitting." ;o)
ReaperCDN
My oldest is an adult now and she was raised to draw firm lines. Additional responsibilities come with additional wages. It's trade.
MishievousMagpie
My last FT job tried this on me, I stood up for myself and politely requested additional compensation. They fired me 2 wks later
ballsoutflyer
Those mysteriously take longer and longer, and get fucked up more and more for some reason.
mithiwithi
That actually has an older term too - it's a form of constructive dismissal.
Leithoa
And is illegal if you can prove it
Serenitis
Also called a "white muntiny", and by doing it you can cause a business many problems just by following its own rules exactly. It's great.
Zakcl
I've heard it called malicious compliance too. Its especially effective when you combine it with all communication recorded in email history
In DnD when you follow the rules with malicious exactitude your alignment is called Lawful Chaotic
Crillol
Lawful and Chaotic are the opposite sides of the scale. So both would be Neutral.
Falkh12
unless the character has multiple personalities and switches between the 2
Oooh, I like that!
SomethingCatchyLater
I had a prior employer require that I was on call 24/7 while being uncompensated. Worst time ever for me
current employer took advantage of me when I tried to go above and beyond so now its just the basic amount for what I'm paid for, no more
Congratulations, Your reward for working hard is more work!
Eldibs
Pretty sure that's illegal. Had a manager try that with me once, my response was "Ha, no. Either I'm working and you pay me, or I'm off."
It probably was, but deep down I knew going in for a few hours was far less worse than the yelling and sh!t work they'd give me the next day
The yelling loses all its power when you make it clear to them that you don't give a shit and can find other employment.
This was a long time ago and the job was a means to an end. It doesn't bother me anymore, I've moved on and I'm slightly better now
I'm glad things have improved for you. I hope they continue to improve.
mak10z
there's a reason its called Quittin time. clock strikes 8.5 hours after start time.. its time to GTFO and go dark till the next day's start
putcleverusernamehere
and never answer your phone
michiyl
If it's REALLY important, most people will try a few more times. If not, it's not that important. And most stuff isn't.
Buy a prepaid phone, never setup voicemail, give that number to the boss, put it in a drawer
Im glad somebody actually explained this. I was seeing the term everywhere. I have been working jobs like this for years cause (1)
colsanders2002
I believe the term actually came from Gen Z itself. I could be wrong. If not, I know many of them are actually embracing it.
n0n53n53
I'm told so many people this over the years. Stop working all hours to impress the boss because they're not impressed, they expect it now
haunter64
Acting your wage, helped me sooner
wadatahmydamie
I made a short video on the subject
TheVoidListens
Guilty of this because I like to be helpful. Then I crashed and burned so hard I started having massive panic attacks.
Yeah when i learned to companies i work for care more about their bottom line than my health i changed my tactics for sure.
Otherwise the company just takes advantage. My reward for working hard was always just more work. Usually somebody elses.
dailysuicidalthoughts
My reward for hard work, was the new guy with less experience, and knowledge getting a promotion, cause he was fucking both managers.
MyBigMouth
I'm also glad it's been explained as I thought it meant leaving your job without stating why. Tis a silly term.
KillerTofu615
I made a job fire me because I refused to do the work for 3 people and cover three different territories while my own was being dismissed.
VolcanoHerder
I just switched from private industry to state work & HOLY SHIT the freedom to truly only work 7-4 is amazing. Zero expectation beyond that,
aside from some voluntary OT if I want it every so often.
I'm at the point where, in front of my boss, when I'm asked "Working hard today?" I say "Not if I can help it." It's become a running joke.
justhereforthemimes
They’re “quiet firing” you by not giving you raises above inflation, career training, extra vacation days, more benefits, etc
RevengeIsIceCream
I still dislike this being framed as a PROTEST. How is doing your job as per contract protesting? It’s just doing what was agreed!
Unclescam
It's just nonsense. A new guilt trip by our corpo overlords.
LordSithis
The last job I had, the boss got mad at me for "just doing what he paid me for", until I asked him to explain how I was breaching contract.
Yeah i did get "laid off for downsizing" after a while. THe boss can find a fake reason to get rid of you.
I left on my own terms, but I wouldn't have been surprised to have that happen to me too.
cozynester
This ^ Had to unlearn "good work ethic" that had me constantly sacrificing myself to a company that never appreciated/compensated me for it
Key word there is “compensation.” I wouldn’t give a flying fuck if they appreciate me so long as I get paid for my time
Facts.
Narwhilian
Yup same. I normally give them my full work ethic until the first review / raise conversation (so 6months to a year) just in case they (1/2)
Do recognize & reward it. But once they don't (no company has so far) then I'm back to doing precisely what i agreed to in my contract (2/2)
homoneurotic
That's a good strategy. Just started a new job so I'm gonna try this.
TheHandOfAsh
Acting your wage
ahorseelbowdeepinme
It's not quiet quitting, it's acting your wage
sirdouglasbuttersworth
But why is doing what you are paid to do a form of "protest"?? It's just refusing to be taken advantage of, having boundaries.
Greenwaxy
Here the unions call it “working to contract” when teachers refuse to grade papers at home, chaperone dances for free, etc.
igorbarenschlager
I've always heard it referred to as "malicious compliance. "
sonomarco
Back in the day, we called it "Doing your job."
zoidburgerandfries
I’ll go one further… it’s called “doing your job” and not getting pulled into excel culture
fugue042
This is one repost I will always upvote.
stsword
That's what people were complaining about? People actually doing their jobs? Wow what entitled shitheads "How dare you not work for free!"
TechnoPsychoBabble
I like the term 'acting your wage'
BobsBurgerslurker
It's what I've always done. My last vacation they kept trying to call me. I said nope and dealt with it when I got back.
pleaseconsiderthatImightbejoking
As an inverse. When an employer doesnt pay you what your work os worth that is quiet wage theft
JustAnotherknarF
Lisekmaly
Im going to stick to calling it 'Doing my job" but I am thankful someone decided to explain this new method of squeezing more work from us.
v01dstar
Exactly! Doing your job should never have needed a special name like "working to rule" in the first place.
activeracer28
People have done bare minimum at their jobs for decades. Not everyone goes above and beyond.
VitaminJay
Those that do are more often rewarded with more work than material benefits.
AnythingMuchShorter
It's not like employers or land lords ever give you anything more than they are contractually and legally required to.
HippoTel
BelairJ
Working to rule is still too much. 8 full hours, plus lunch, plus 1/2 hour+ commute each way..8h turns into 11. So much for 8, 8, 8.
supermario182
Minimum wage, minimum effort
lichtly
Every time I see a "Quiet Quitting" post it reminds me to fire up Audible and chill out a bit. Thanks for the reminders!
pudaheh
The alternative to "quiet quitting" is wage theft. I don't need to remind y'all that wage theft is by far the largest type of theft.
DethShartBSideU
Gads thanks I was not woke, I thot this was actual quitting. Thank you, yeah 'work to rule' is the og term I'm 54. Luck finding meritocracy.
waspentalive
Urban Dictionary (yep I had to look it up) had a 2nd definition which was basically just to ghost your job. ---2>
waspentalive
---2> Walk out one day and just not come back ---3>
waspentalive
---3> Make a new plan Stan, No need to be coy Roy, Just listen to me - there must be 50 ways to leave your bad job.
Sechran
One of the greatest modern perversities is the idea that it's alright to demand labor without compensation, while the reverse is decried.
Lisekmaly
Unless you work in government, then compensation without actual work is the norm.
BishlamekGurpgork
Government typically has more leeway to refuse assignments that aren't in your job description, and a number of federally mandated options
BishlamekGurpgork
To sell meditation of disputes, or the file a grievance with the outcome of a dispute. It varies by agency, but a federal employer has less
BishlamekGurpgork
Freedom to fuck you than private industry.
Callynd
That's only cops and Republican politicians.
MangOpana
Important clarification, indeed, considering Republican lawmakers are basically getting paid solely to stop democrats from doing anything
SnaccAttacc
I was under the impression that the "quiet quitting" term was first used by the workers tho? Is that wrong?
Bukoden
Downvoting a question when someone finds out they might be misinformed and they are trying to correct that? The fuck is wrong with y'all?!
Bukoden
Also, I have no idea about who used what term when or first or what. Sorry I don't have any help for you on that front.
AwesomeName
And what about quiet firing? Where you assign piles and piles of additional responsibilities without adjusting compensation?
LarvaLamp
I've also heard some places will promote a person beyond their ability and then fire them for incompetence, since there's technically no>
LarvaLamp
KlatnYelox
There's a legal term for that, called constructive dismissal. If you can prove it, it counts as wrongful dismissal regardless of intent
Chattafaukup
Or make the job increasingly difficult with arbitrary things while cutting hours so they WANT to quit.
PaolaSandiego
That's mobbing :D
Chattafaukup
Noted! learn something new everyday! thanks!
Greenwaxy
Yeah. “Just make his life miserable until he resigns so we don’t have to fire him plzthxu”.
LivingDeadX
The joke's on them... I counter the misery by "quiet quitting." ;o)
ReaperCDN
My oldest is an adult now and she was raised to draw firm lines. Additional responsibilities come with additional wages. It's trade.
MishievousMagpie
My last FT job tried this on me, I stood up for myself and politely requested additional compensation. They fired me 2 wks later
ballsoutflyer
Those mysteriously take longer and longer, and get fucked up more and more for some reason.
mithiwithi
That actually has an older term too - it's a form of constructive dismissal.
Leithoa
And is illegal if you can prove it
Serenitis
Also called a "white muntiny", and by doing it you can cause a business many problems just by following its own rules exactly. It's great.
Zakcl
I've heard it called malicious compliance too. Its especially effective when you combine it with all communication recorded in email history
ahorseelbowdeepinme
In DnD when you follow the rules with malicious exactitude your alignment is called Lawful Chaotic
Crillol
Lawful and Chaotic are the opposite sides of the scale. So both would be Neutral.
ahorseelbowdeepinme
Falkh12
unless the character has multiple personalities and switches between the 2
ahorseelbowdeepinme
Oooh, I like that!
SomethingCatchyLater
I had a prior employer require that I was on call 24/7 while being uncompensated. Worst time ever for me
SomethingCatchyLater
current employer took advantage of me when I tried to go above and beyond so now its just the basic amount for what I'm paid for, no more
Chattafaukup
Congratulations, Your reward for working hard is more work!
Eldibs
Pretty sure that's illegal. Had a manager try that with me once, my response was "Ha, no. Either I'm working and you pay me, or I'm off."
SomethingCatchyLater
It probably was, but deep down I knew going in for a few hours was far less worse than the yelling and sh!t work they'd give me the next day
Eldibs
The yelling loses all its power when you make it clear to them that you don't give a shit and can find other employment.
SomethingCatchyLater
This was a long time ago and the job was a means to an end. It doesn't bother me anymore, I've moved on and I'm slightly better now
Eldibs
I'm glad things have improved for you. I hope they continue to improve.
mak10z
there's a reason its called Quittin time. clock strikes 8.5 hours after start time.. its time to GTFO and go dark till the next day's start
putcleverusernamehere
and never answer your phone
michiyl
If it's REALLY important, most people will try a few more times. If not, it's not that important. And most stuff isn't.
putcleverusernamehere
Buy a prepaid phone, never setup voicemail, give that number to the boss, put it in a drawer
Chattafaukup
Im glad somebody actually explained this. I was seeing the term everywhere. I have been working jobs like this for years cause (1)
colsanders2002
I believe the term actually came from Gen Z itself. I could be wrong. If not, I know many of them are actually embracing it.
n0n53n53
I'm told so many people this over the years. Stop working all hours to impress the boss because they're not impressed, they expect it now
haunter64
Acting your wage, helped me sooner
wadatahmydamie
I made a short video on the subject
TheVoidListens
Guilty of this because I like to be helpful. Then I crashed and burned so hard I started having massive panic attacks.
Chattafaukup
Yeah when i learned to companies i work for care more about their bottom line than my health i changed my tactics for sure.
Chattafaukup
Otherwise the company just takes advantage. My reward for working hard was always just more work. Usually somebody elses.
dailysuicidalthoughts
My reward for hard work, was the new guy with less experience, and knowledge getting a promotion, cause he was fucking both managers.
MyBigMouth
I'm also glad it's been explained as I thought it meant leaving your job without stating why. Tis a silly term.
KillerTofu615
I made a job fire me because I refused to do the work for 3 people and cover three different territories while my own was being dismissed.
VolcanoHerder
I just switched from private industry to state work & HOLY SHIT the freedom to truly only work 7-4 is amazing. Zero expectation beyond that,
VolcanoHerder
aside from some voluntary OT if I want it every so often.
Eldibs
I'm at the point where, in front of my boss, when I'm asked "Working hard today?" I say "Not if I can help it." It's become a running joke.
justhereforthemimes
They’re “quiet firing” you by not giving you raises above inflation, career training, extra vacation days, more benefits, etc
RevengeIsIceCream
I still dislike this being framed as a PROTEST. How is doing your job as per contract protesting? It’s just doing what was agreed!
Unclescam
It's just nonsense. A new guilt trip by our corpo overlords.
LordSithis
The last job I had, the boss got mad at me for "just doing what he paid me for", until I asked him to explain how I was breaching contract.
Chattafaukup
Yeah i did get "laid off for downsizing" after a while. THe boss can find a fake reason to get rid of you.
LordSithis
I left on my own terms, but I wouldn't have been surprised to have that happen to me too.
cozynester
This ^ Had to unlearn "good work ethic" that had me constantly sacrificing myself to a company that never appreciated/compensated me for it
MangOpana
Key word there is “compensation.” I wouldn’t give a flying fuck if they appreciate me so long as I get paid for my time
Chattafaukup
Facts.
Narwhilian
Yup same. I normally give them my full work ethic until the first review / raise conversation (so 6months to a year) just in case they (1/2)
Narwhilian
Do recognize & reward it. But once they don't (no company has so far) then I'm back to doing precisely what i agreed to in my contract (2/2)
homoneurotic
That's a good strategy. Just started a new job so I'm gonna try this.