Nov 6, 2020 8:21 PM
AlessioDepoli
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thatquakeguypdx
Say the line, Murdoch!
Bobuzo
So embarrassing that it was this close vs donny tiny hands...
narotu63
I mean, they were already the first to call Arizona...
Yellowchopsticks
MarioBoon
"I didn't do it"
thereitis101
They called AZ first, defusing Trump from calling victory that night and haven’t withdrawn it.
Troxxas
They have been going against trumps stupid shit for a while, even criticised him when he tomahawked syria
TwoStupidDogs
jrabbitmusic
koops
v
Kinksterino
They wont call him "president elect"
hewhoknowsnothingbuthowtofish
“Your president not ours!!”
kimbozo
They probably wont call him president when the time comes either
PTrick87
Yeah they had some memo bs about that
Wikipedo
Probably "the former vice president"
imperfectregulator
to be fair fox news has been calling most states first, so i wouldn't be surprised if they called the race first as well
hmangels
It’s going to beautiful guys
noonehasthisoneyet
Aren’t they already giving Arizona, Wisconsin and michagan to Biden? Then trump said something like the radicals are behind the news desk
INoLongerCareBoutThisName
Can *someone* please just call it? Like seriously?
hvr2
I say drag it on until January 19th. Keep trump worried about re-election and keep him from “making American great again.”
SpammaJamma
Say the line Fox...
EPard
OMG that IS what they are doing
Pragmatizm
I mean neither has the Associated Press, and they are what Google is showing. Fox called Arizona for Biden before anyone.
Silverwingedfluff
Come on, FOX. say iiiiit.
In seriousness, they are probably waiting for it because they don't want to be called fake or illegitimate. Only reason I can think of.
inkadikt
They will get sued into oblivion.
frankenmullet22
They have already proven they can and will say anything they want
tiderfish
You know it’s sad but true.. dun dun
LordOfThePenguin
Can’t be sued if you’re not actually a news channel. Fox News is classified as entertainment. It’s as much “news” as WWE is wrestling; 1/2
It’s basically a reality tv show ABOUT a news show. 2/2
ReginaKasteen
I find this comparison very insulting to the WWE. Even if it's "fake", it still requires a lot of showmanship and athleticism.
Whereas Fox just requires blandness and bad hair (and the ability to read a teleprompter better than Trump).
transientmind
So does ballet. But ballet isn’t a sport. It’s a performance. Just like WWE.
Not a jab at the WWE, just saying Fox practices misinformation the way that professional wrestlers practice their athleticism
LordOfTheDust
Can someone explain to me why the opinion of the media determines the election? Isn't it however the EC votes?
bennygig
You are correct. the media makes predictions and has generally been able to properly guess the election on the vote counts
So it doesn't actually determine anything and this is just political chestbeating. Thanks.
rosshell2718
Ahahahahahahahahaaaaa!
Snickt
FOX News is bailing on Trump too, so the Trump supporters are running from FOX right now.
IWouldDoThings
Some maga-ass on fb wrote "IMPEACH 46!" yesterday and I was pleased because that means he already thinks of him as President. Ha!
furriephillips
That’s some Tom Clancy’s Executive Orders level thinking!
RatchetnClank
We can really speed up the democratic process if we impeach people before they start! /s
Santac99
They are already accusing Biden of a poor Corona response. Impeachments for poor Corona response I agree on. Its just 45 not 46.
margaretfoster0710
Lmfao...whut?
aifeloadawildmoss
Reminds me of The Last Continent by Terry Pratchett. Someone becomes PM they immediately get sent to jail on the assumption tgat if they 1/
Hadn't already committed a crime to get into office it is highly likely they are going to once they assume the role.
SophieClockwise
Call it.
brbscience
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kanoPositivityMaker
Rhymes with supafreak
nickemartin123456
"What am I wagering"
Putitinyomama
RyanHYK
Eh, more like 270.
vitaminalgas
Everything...
chefchris357
Nothing...
Blasfemur
You've discovered why this is actually a sci-fi movie. Obviously, it's an alternate reality where Big Jerky rules with an iron fist.
realBigDill
https://youtu.be/ANlMM0HQxC0
pareidoliaperson
Poste july 2020?? Hmm why am I having a Mandela effect?
stonetemplefox05
Oh, that was nice!
ohgodthehorror
Fucking excellent movie.
Javier Bardem was one of the greatest villains of all time in this movie.
tinyimgurafe
I haven't seen it, but I watched just one scene where he enters a convenience store and he really disturbed me. He's a great actor.
In case you dont know, this is No Country for Old Men, and I highly reccomend that you watch it. It is a cinematic masterpiece.
DrunkAgainstMadMothers
Thought he made a pretty good Bond villain too
PickleRiiiiiiiiiiiiick
He did the emotionless face and dead eyes soooooo fucking well.
His performance legitimately gave me chills. Fucking excellent.
The scene where he kills the deputy with his cuffs. Jesus. Fucking. Christ.
joker2814
It would be so beautifully petty if every major outlet waited until after Fox News called it. I would love it.
Spettel
Do it! Do it! Do it!
Mafalin
"According to Fox news..."
thegregorious
The daytime actual news part of fox has been calling out trump for baseless fraud complaints and has been impressively unbiased imho
WeAreAllStoriesInTheEnd
DDHQ already called it for Biden
Lassannn
If I had any power at any of those news outlets I would totally wait.
PimpinKen
its exactly my type of petty
LurkingAtTheOffice
Fox is not letting it's anchors call Biden the "president-elect" if the counting ends and Biden has won more states. That's petty.
dododododoqqqqq
Also dangerous
ChalkCoatedDonut
They would prefer put a 24 hours national anthem like if the queen died and close their social media than accepting their grand wizard lose
GrumpyOldMillennial
I hate fox but their vote map is the most up to date one. Often far more current than CNN. So, I've been watching it. Ironic.
stolie
Can we ping all the major news outlets and suggest this is masses? They may just buy into it lol
itdoesntmatternoneofthismatters
Fox uses Associated Press numbers. Historically, the AP has been the most accurate.
ukalliq
Fox has its own "decision desk". They painted themselves into a corner by calling Arizona very early.
shaggy715
They work off the same data. This is true. They do not copy off each other but add in their own polling data and analysis to make calls
Bluraysteelbook
Ccn was actually far less forgiving to biden then fox was. It was quite surprising
rowanmc
Fox' actual news shows are actually okay. Ish. It's their entertainment shows like Tucker, Laura, The View, which are horrible.
The problem is, 99% of fox viewers don't realize that those others shows are entertainment...
jfd8u438fdsfkds
Trying not to cry wolf
Cragnock
I read that as "try not to cry", wolf and I was like why would Wolf Blitzer be crying?
mrmayortheiv
To be fair, this whole election has been pathetic for us. Biden's barely winning, we didn't win the senate, and we lost some of the house.
alliusis
But I agree, I find it insane that it's so close, especially with the record turnout. I hope the next 4 years chills everyone the fuck out.
There's a slim chance they can still win the Senate if they win the 2 runoffs in Georgia - if 50/50 dem/gop, Harris is tiebreaker.
Plus, maybe Moscow Mitch dies soon.
Shaktimann
Who are Ccn?
Wow I didn't even see that myself!
chesterthegreat
Probably CNN.
Can you imagine how pissed viewers would be if CNN had to uncall a state for Biden? And if Fox uncalled one for Trump, they'd be shot.
Like seriously one of those MAGA morons might shoot up the Fox studio if they started flipping states from Trump to Biden.
SmokyDoggg
Fox was the only outlet that had it 264-214 since Wednesday. Even CNN is still 253-213
AlohomoraButterbeer
Politico has had it there for a while
NinjaCongo
Rats leaving the ship. Nobody wants to stay onboard MS TRump goin down.
Because Arizona isn't a lock, and his lead has been tenuous. Nevada is a big ? And Georgia is about to flip back red. Its still not a lock..
TaxiGhoul
I thought a state has 3 electoral votes at minimum?
WherePoetryComesToDie
Maine and Nebraska award EVs according to congressional district, with 2 being automatically awarded to the state-wide winner.
Richter12x2
Yeah, that's the Associated Press number. The Guardian has had it since Wednesday too.
JackTheRippersBrotherHowie
NYTimes still at 253
Bancanadiannach
Most outside the US at least are using the 264, and have been for days.
Studoku
BBC only just hit 264 a few hours ago.
ABC Australia has had it as 264 for the last couple days.
professionalConfirmologist
No, every1 is saying 264 except CNN. And 270toWin has regurgitated Decision Desk's declaring Biden won.
NYT, Wapo, NBC, CBS and ABC still have it at 253. A lot of networks are being very conservative with projecting results this year.
ThailandExpress
ABC isnt sayin 264
comfortingmediocrity
New York Times isn’t saying 264 either.
PTNLemay
Why is CNN using 254 though? Did they think some of the locked-in states would change?
Arizona is still too close to call as is Nevada. GA is probable to flip back now that military votes are being counted.
An over-abundance of caution after 2016. Also trying to avoid bias accusations while there’s a non-zero chance some states may flip. 1/x
For example: Nate Silver has been itching to call PA for Biden after the first few mail ballot dumps, even though Biden was down 5+ pts. 2/3
Didn’t out of due deference to his employer, ABC, who still has the EV count at 253 as of 7:54 pm. 3/3
bomboy23
I just use google which I think uses AP, they say 264
embodymentofgattaca
This. AP and thus NPR have had 264 that long as well.
Jarjarthejedi
Yep. AP. The discrepancy is AZ. Technically there are enough remaining ballots to be counted for AZ's 11 votes to flip. But given that the
remaining votes are in Maricopa county, which has been the most in favor of Biden across the counties, they determined it very unlikely.
https://apnews.com/article/ap-explains-arizona-joe-biden-bb16f91b04456b2513f40436248eb62d
mrputter
Except that Maricopa County ????'? been one of the most Biden-leaning in Arizona. It has leaned D, yes, but only middlingly so. And it's
also one of the counties in Arizona where the Republicans traditionally have the strongest mail-in infrastructure. So unlike in most of
I actually prefer CNN's method myself, because I'd rather a state not be called until it's physically impossible to flip, but it would be
a massive surprise if the remaining votes were so out of line with the votes cast here so far.
thatquakeguypdx
Say the line, Murdoch!
Bobuzo
So embarrassing that it was this close vs donny tiny hands...
narotu63
I mean, they were already the first to call Arizona...
Yellowchopsticks
MarioBoon
"I didn't do it"
thereitis101
They called AZ first, defusing Trump from calling victory that night and haven’t withdrawn it.
Troxxas
They have been going against trumps stupid shit for a while, even criticised him when he tomahawked syria
TwoStupidDogs
jrabbitmusic
koops
Kinksterino
They wont call him "president elect"
hewhoknowsnothingbuthowtofish
“Your president not ours!!”
kimbozo
They probably wont call him president when the time comes either
PTrick87
Yeah they had some memo bs about that
Wikipedo
Probably "the former vice president"
imperfectregulator
to be fair fox news has been calling most states first, so i wouldn't be surprised if they called the race first as well
hmangels
It’s going to beautiful guys
noonehasthisoneyet
Aren’t they already giving Arizona, Wisconsin and michagan to Biden? Then trump said something like the radicals are behind the news desk
INoLongerCareBoutThisName
Can *someone* please just call it? Like seriously?
hvr2
I say drag it on until January 19th. Keep trump worried about re-election and keep him from “making American great again.”
SpammaJamma
Say the line Fox...
EPard
OMG that IS what they are doing
Pragmatizm
I mean neither has the Associated Press, and they are what Google is showing. Fox called Arizona for Biden before anyone.
Silverwingedfluff
Come on, FOX. say iiiiit.
Silverwingedfluff
In seriousness, they are probably waiting for it because they don't want to be called fake or illegitimate. Only reason I can think of.
inkadikt
They will get sued into oblivion.
frankenmullet22
They have already proven they can and will say anything they want
tiderfish
You know it’s sad but true.. dun dun
LordOfThePenguin
Can’t be sued if you’re not actually a news channel. Fox News is classified as entertainment. It’s as much “news” as WWE is wrestling; 1/2
LordOfThePenguin
It’s basically a reality tv show ABOUT a news show. 2/2
ReginaKasteen
I find this comparison very insulting to the WWE. Even if it's "fake", it still requires a lot of showmanship and athleticism.
ReginaKasteen
Whereas Fox just requires blandness and bad hair (and the ability to read a teleprompter better than Trump).
transientmind
So does ballet. But ballet isn’t a sport. It’s a performance. Just like WWE.
LordOfThePenguin
Not a jab at the WWE, just saying Fox practices misinformation the way that professional wrestlers practice their athleticism
LordOfTheDust
Can someone explain to me why the opinion of the media determines the election? Isn't it however the EC votes?
bennygig
You are correct. the media makes predictions and has generally been able to properly guess the election on the vote counts
LordOfTheDust
So it doesn't actually determine anything and this is just political chestbeating. Thanks.
rosshell2718
Ahahahahahahahahaaaaa!
Snickt
FOX News is bailing on Trump too, so the Trump supporters are running from FOX right now.
IWouldDoThings
Some maga-ass on fb wrote "IMPEACH 46!" yesterday and I was pleased because that means he already thinks of him as President. Ha!
furriephillips
That’s some Tom Clancy’s Executive Orders level thinking!
RatchetnClank
We can really speed up the democratic process if we impeach people before they start! /s
Santac99
They are already accusing Biden of a poor Corona response. Impeachments for poor Corona response I agree on. Its just 45 not 46.
margaretfoster0710
Lmfao...whut?
aifeloadawildmoss
Reminds me of The Last Continent by Terry Pratchett. Someone becomes PM they immediately get sent to jail on the assumption tgat if they 1/
aifeloadawildmoss
Hadn't already committed a crime to get into office it is highly likely they are going to once they assume the role.
SophieClockwise
Call it.
brbscience
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kanoPositivityMaker
Rhymes with supafreak
nickemartin123456
"What am I wagering"
Putitinyomama
RyanHYK
Eh, more like 270.
vitaminalgas
Everything...
chefchris357
Nothing...
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Blasfemur
You've discovered why this is actually a sci-fi movie. Obviously, it's an alternate reality where Big Jerky rules with an iron fist.
realBigDill
https://youtu.be/ANlMM0HQxC0
pareidoliaperson
Poste july 2020?? Hmm why am I having a Mandela effect?
stonetemplefox05
Oh, that was nice!
ohgodthehorror
Fucking excellent movie.
ohgodthehorror
Javier Bardem was one of the greatest villains of all time in this movie.
tinyimgurafe
I haven't seen it, but I watched just one scene where he enters a convenience store and he really disturbed me. He's a great actor.
ohgodthehorror
In case you dont know, this is No Country for Old Men, and I highly reccomend that you watch it. It is a cinematic masterpiece.
DrunkAgainstMadMothers
Thought he made a pretty good Bond villain too
PickleRiiiiiiiiiiiiick
He did the emotionless face and dead eyes soooooo fucking well.
ohgodthehorror
His performance legitimately gave me chills. Fucking excellent.
PickleRiiiiiiiiiiiiick
The scene where he kills the deputy with his cuffs. Jesus. Fucking. Christ.
joker2814
It would be so beautifully petty if every major outlet waited until after Fox News called it. I would love it.
Spettel
Do it! Do it! Do it!
Mafalin
"According to Fox news..."
thegregorious
The daytime actual news part of fox has been calling out trump for baseless fraud complaints and has been impressively unbiased imho
WeAreAllStoriesInTheEnd
DDHQ already called it for Biden
Lassannn
If I had any power at any of those news outlets I would totally wait.
PimpinKen
its exactly my type of petty
LurkingAtTheOffice
Fox is not letting it's anchors call Biden the "president-elect" if the counting ends and Biden has won more states. That's petty.
dododododoqqqqq
Also dangerous
ChalkCoatedDonut
They would prefer put a 24 hours national anthem like if the queen died and close their social media than accepting their grand wizard lose
GrumpyOldMillennial
I hate fox but their vote map is the most up to date one. Often far more current than CNN. So, I've been watching it. Ironic.
stolie
Can we ping all the major news outlets and suggest this is masses? They may just buy into it lol
itdoesntmatternoneofthismatters
Fox uses Associated Press numbers. Historically, the AP has been the most accurate.
ukalliq
Fox has its own "decision desk". They painted themselves into a corner by calling Arizona very early.
shaggy715
They work off the same data. This is true. They do not copy off each other but add in their own polling data and analysis to make calls
Bluraysteelbook
Ccn was actually far less forgiving to biden then fox was. It was quite surprising
rowanmc
Fox' actual news shows are actually okay. Ish. It's their entertainment shows like Tucker, Laura, The View, which are horrible.
rowanmc
The problem is, 99% of fox viewers don't realize that those others shows are entertainment...
jfd8u438fdsfkds
Trying not to cry wolf
Cragnock
I read that as "try not to cry", wolf and I was like why would Wolf Blitzer be crying?
mrmayortheiv
To be fair, this whole election has been pathetic for us. Biden's barely winning, we didn't win the senate, and we lost some of the house.
alliusis
But I agree, I find it insane that it's so close, especially with the record turnout. I hope the next 4 years chills everyone the fuck out.
alliusis
There's a slim chance they can still win the Senate if they win the 2 runoffs in Georgia - if 50/50 dem/gop, Harris is tiebreaker.
mrmayortheiv
Plus, maybe Moscow Mitch dies soon.
Shaktimann
Who are Ccn?
Bluraysteelbook
Wow I didn't even see that myself!
chesterthegreat
Probably CNN.
chesterthegreat
Can you imagine how pissed viewers would be if CNN had to uncall a state for Biden? And if Fox uncalled one for Trump, they'd be shot.
chesterthegreat
Like seriously one of those MAGA morons might shoot up the Fox studio if they started flipping states from Trump to Biden.
SmokyDoggg
AlohomoraButterbeer
Politico has had it there for a while
NinjaCongo
Rats leaving the ship. Nobody wants to stay onboard MS TRump goin down.
GrumpyOldMillennial
Because Arizona isn't a lock, and his lead has been tenuous. Nevada is a big ? And Georgia is about to flip back red. Its still not a lock..
TaxiGhoul
I thought a state has 3 electoral votes at minimum?
WherePoetryComesToDie
Maine and Nebraska award EVs according to congressional district, with 2 being automatically awarded to the state-wide winner.
Richter12x2
Yeah, that's the Associated Press number. The Guardian has had it since Wednesday too.
JackTheRippersBrotherHowie
NYTimes still at 253
Bancanadiannach
Most outside the US at least are using the 264, and have been for days.
Studoku
BBC only just hit 264 a few hours ago.
transientmind
ABC Australia has had it as 264 for the last couple days.
professionalConfirmologist
No, every1 is saying 264 except CNN. And 270toWin has regurgitated Decision Desk's declaring Biden won.
WherePoetryComesToDie
NYT, Wapo, NBC, CBS and ABC still have it at 253. A lot of networks are being very conservative with projecting results this year.
ThailandExpress
ABC isnt sayin 264
comfortingmediocrity
New York Times isn’t saying 264 either.
PTNLemay
Why is CNN using 254 though? Did they think some of the locked-in states would change?
GrumpyOldMillennial
Arizona is still too close to call as is Nevada. GA is probable to flip back now that military votes are being counted.
WherePoetryComesToDie
An over-abundance of caution after 2016. Also trying to avoid bias accusations while there’s a non-zero chance some states may flip. 1/x
WherePoetryComesToDie
For example: Nate Silver has been itching to call PA for Biden after the first few mail ballot dumps, even though Biden was down 5+ pts. 2/3
WherePoetryComesToDie
Didn’t out of due deference to his employer, ABC, who still has the EV count at 253 as of 7:54 pm. 3/3
bomboy23
I just use google which I think uses AP, they say 264
embodymentofgattaca
This. AP and thus NPR have had 264 that long as well.
Jarjarthejedi
Yep. AP. The discrepancy is AZ. Technically there are enough remaining ballots to be counted for AZ's 11 votes to flip. But given that the
Jarjarthejedi
remaining votes are in Maricopa county, which has been the most in favor of Biden across the counties, they determined it very unlikely.
Jarjarthejedi
https://apnews.com/article/ap-explains-arizona-joe-biden-bb16f91b04456b2513f40436248eb62d
mrputter
Except that Maricopa County ????'? been one of the most Biden-leaning in Arizona. It has leaned D, yes, but only middlingly so. And it's
mrputter
also one of the counties in Arizona where the Republicans traditionally have the strongest mail-in infrastructure. So unlike in most of
Jarjarthejedi
I actually prefer CNN's method myself, because I'd rather a state not be called until it's physically impossible to flip, but it would be
Jarjarthejedi
a massive surprise if the remaining votes were so out of line with the votes cast here so far.