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dancesloth
I got $490 dollars a week for 6 months here in NZ. because I lost my job due to covid. It took 10 minutes on the phone.
drGrafenberg
2000 bucks after tax a month is about average income here in Sweden.
mufdvr
Ya and we will paying for that for generations
tjm1226
Why can’t Mitch McConnell get COVID? No one, even Trump, deserves it more than him.
DwayneTheCrackJohnson
The US is mos def NOT the richest nation on Earth. https://www.gfmag.com/global-data/economic-data/richest-countries-in-the-world
rightwoof
Not a terrible idea
theguywiththevoice
Poor people don't pay kickbacks to the Senate, that's it. You give a poor person 2k they waste it on food and rent. You give a corp 2k and
theguywiththevoice
They put 1800 in the Caymans and give $200 to the cunt that voted to let people starve and give money to Corps.
seenunseen
We don't take kindly to thinkas round here
CGMR
That 2K a month saved my ass.
Frostbreaker1
Same!
TheWombatStrikesAgain
Definitely. Especially women. Once their uterus is part of some corporate structure, they will no longer try and regulate it.
MrMineHeads
2k/mo for 6 mo, and only available to certain people or else you have to return that money. Plus, it's still taxable.
Registeredfordeuce
When you give middle people in need $2k they put it right back into the economy, it doesn’t go to a rich guys’ pile of money
Kmermaid
Can we make AOC an honorary Canadian? She'd like it so much better here and she'd be much more effective in parliament than in Congress ♥️
Munchman347
Senators work for their owners. We, the people, are not their owners...
PluckyPianista
A country that treats its citizens like this is no longer the "greatest country on Earth." The American dream is now just to survive
DraculasMoonCannon
It never had claim to that ridiculous title. Best it can manage was the main imperial power after WW2
koflan
No, you can't have any of your tax money back, now go die for the economy!
MisterLemons
*Working class dies off, critical work isn't being done, economy collapses*
koflan
No, we reproduce fast enough that there's always a steady supply
HypnoJack
I'd almost believe that that was a direct quote from a US politician...
WARHAMMER405
Yep. It's a mindset of "Go die for the economy so our corporate masters can go buy another mansion or Gulfstream jet."
Noob3rts
(1) Canada did $2,000 for people who made over $3,000 the year before with requirements. If students left their job instead of getting fired
Noob3rts
(2) did not qualify. However, students were offered $1,200 a month which wasn't bad, but $1,200 barely covered anything for myself as a
Noob3rts
(3) student when my rent is $950, food is $250, internet is $80, and phone is $40.
Cringealert
Usa just has the biggest companies, which btw dont even pay taxes so far from richest country
Blightsteel101
Technically we have the highest GDP. Not the highest GDP per Capita tho
amipsycho
it's a 3rd world country, indebted and corrupt
jexilef
But the stock market hit the magic 30000! Surely that's worth as many deaths as most wars
IThinkYouGotAFineBrainJack
The thing about Mitch caring only about corporations is fucking propaganda lies. The truth is he only cares about those that pays him.
StellarJay77
The mentality that so many Americans have that it's not their responsibility to provide others with a "free ride" through life just pisses >
StellarJay77
>me off. It's like basically saying that the same suffering they went through is required because otherwise people will just be lazy, not >
StellarJay77
>realizing that the easier we make it for future generations the faster we will advance forward as a society. They themselves never had to >
StellarJay77
>worry about being eaten by a lion because their ancestors created the foundations that led to modern society because we make incremental >
StellarJay77
>advances with each new generation, and that process would go a lot faster and smoother if we stopped having assholes bitching about how >
StellarJay77
>hard they had it and that everyone should habe to struggle like that. Will there be some who just coast along and just survive? Yes! But >
KasperTheCarGuy
How is america the richest country on earth? Measured in national deficit or amount of school shootings?
DwayneTheCrackJohnson
The amount of people with crippling debt from healthcare and opioid addiction from prescription drugs. And people in corporate owned prisons
KasperTheCarGuy
Don't forget about criminals employed as public servants.
DwayneTheCrackJohnson
Ohshit, how can I forget the legal slaves?
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tauntology
The US only thinks it is the richest country... it is just a country with a lot of rich people.
notthatkaren
It's a country with a few obscenely rich people and many children living in poverty.
RigelKent
The US literally *is* the richest country. They have a higher GDP than anyone other country.
DwayneTheCrackJohnson
Bullshit. https://www.gfmag.com/global-data/economic-data/richest-countries-in-the-world
WhoDoesntLoveWaffles
Thanks, this was interesting. Plenty of surprises.
giggityguy1
GDP is a terrible measuring tool. It literally just measures how much money changes hands. It doesn't tell you how much the average person>
giggityguy1
has, or whether that money was spent on useful things, or whether the government actually receives some of that money. It's like saying>
giggityguy1
that everyone in a neighborhood is rich because there's a Walmart there.
CatsUpvoteTerror
Didn't we do the same with the $600 a week unemployment and expansion of who qualified?
AnotherReplyToIgnore
A lot of people weren't on unemployment. Also, WE have to pay back all the money that THEY'RE giving to corporations.
beachpupper
That ended w no replacement thanks to the GOP and wasn't really meant to help save the country from the virus, just to help the economy.
AlmostScientist
lol That lasted all about 2 months for me. Then I went back to work with limited hours and made around half that per week but more expenses
StorageB
With $27,000,000,000,000 of debt, we are by far not the richest nation.
MrZev
When you look at debt to gdp ratio, it's on par with lots of countries like UK.
WeylandYutaniCorp
It sounds like you don't understand how national debt works.
StorageB
https://www.visualcapitalist.com/69-trillion-of-world-debt-in-one-infographic/
DatDarthCaedus
"$69 Trillion" - Nice.
SneakyOtter111
Question: I thought we owed our money to China. China is also in debt apparently. Who is owed money?
Fiss
The simple answer is: To eachother / private lenders. The real answer is: It's such a clusterfuck that it doesn't matter on a human scale
Metoos
How can the us be the richest country if/when they owe more than any country to the richest people living there?
xyrax
Because you don't know how the national debt works. That's how. And Im being serious. The Nat Debt doesnt work like your overused Visa dude.
Metoos
I vaguely aware of that I just have trouble comprehending it, mostly due to me not really understand economics that well to begin with
cooplander
As a Canadian, the numbers started going up around the time that benefit ended and we were encouraged to go back to work.
naturenick
I thought the numbers going up was because school restarted and everyone had thanksgiving
jattie
That's probably the bigger factors at play, yeah. Rolling CERB into EI wasn't the major trigger.
DV80N3
Can confirm this to be accurate, Vancouver Island resident here.
23puddytime
Didn’t you guys also get a rent subsidy on top of the 2k per month?
DV80N3
Rent, hydro if you met the criteria ~ Y'all getting done dry down there!
23puddytime
Good for you guys!! Way it should be!
cooplander
Fyi they didn't stop giving relief but the program changed, provided less money per month and had more hurdles. EI was expanded as well.
CheeseBelongsInTheKitten
Economics Explained is awesome!
JoPickled
It is still 2000$ a month but it is paid biweekly instead of every 4 weeks.
BusMuffin
But doesn't maple syrup have magical healing abilities?
meansyouw
It does but sadly 40% of our population think it's a hoax.
cooplander
Only in Canadian RPG's, its a +50 health.
BusMuffin
Damn, i can't wait to extract some sap :p
SethBalmore
I read that as "Canadian Rocket Propelled Grenades" and was confused about an explosive full of healing sticky syrup.
TheDarkNerd
Do. . . do you guys not have those in the US?
BusMuffin
Holy sheeet! Canada is missing a trick here!
SatanicSpirals
Ohioan here. My state has been talking about dropping unemployment numbers, but it's mostly artificial recovery. People making 40k+ a year
SatanicSpirals
Exiting unemployment because less than $200 a week doesnt help, but they take up food delivery or min wage because it's slightly better
SatanicSpirals
Puts more people at risk. I've been out of work and locked down for 9 months. $140 a week roughly now for the last long while.
SatanicSpirals
I literally made more bouncing roughly 15hrs a week.
SatanicSpirals
Furthermore, being at the frontlines without haz pay or proper mental supports for a mass trauma event...not worth working most hiring jobs.
erroniousmaximus
Want to give you a secret about unemployment: it’s a useless metric by itself. One potential reason for lower unemployment rates could be 1/
shamanbaptist
I don’t think this is a secret. Even if you didn’t learn it yourself, it’s often repeated here.
erroniousmaximus
Unemployed people have “stopped looking for work”, which changes their classification from a member of the workforce to out of the workforce
erroniousmaximus
An addendum: “workforce” should read “labor force”, but it effectively means the same.
erroniousmaximus
That change of designation will lower the unemployment rate, however, it doesn’t show the amount of people who are honestly out of work
SatanicSpirals
Learned that back in a social work class of all things, but begs the reiteration for anyone. Ty for typing all that out.
ThisUserNameIsNotTakenOMG
It doesn't make sense untill you realize that America is just a business and the people are resources they are willing to sacrifice for
Cassatta
Pretty much applicable everywhere. Not just America.
WhatzitTooya
We need you to throw more babies into the woodchipper, so we can keep selling woodchippers.
Luficer
But.... isn't the DOW doing amazing......
Luficer
I do know it's not a laughing matter. The world is watch the US and wondering....... why..... how.... wtf
ThisUserNameIsNotTakenOMG
Profit. The rich and powerful couldnt give 2 shits if millions of people die if it means they can make a dollar.
Tenookey
We live in a celebration of psychopathy
shmekie
Rugged individualism/freedom is just code for societal psychopathy
EmanNiemThcin
I mean you call it 'human resources', it was pretty fucking obvious from the get go.I hate that that term made its way to Germany,widerlich
EmanNiemThcin
It is far too close to https://translate.google.com/translate?tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menschenmaterial
GoodChange
At IKEA we say “people and culture”
ThisUserNameIsNotTakenOMG
The way America is being ran, I don't blame everything for wanting to destroy us. Most Americans want America to be destroyed
nothingbutopportunities
At a previous job, HR emailed us a schedule that had the title “assets” with all our names underneath. It was recalled when she realized 1/2
nothingbutopportunities
But just goes to show how they actually see everyone. Not as people but as company assets. It’s disgusting. 2/2
janelPositivityHero
Homelessness and starvation. Hard and very costly problems to fix. I feel for you all, our neighbors to the south.
ThisUserNameIsNotTakenOMG
It would be a costly problem untill you realize there are more empty houses in the us than homeless people. If the home owners could write
janelPositivityHero
Oh geez , that's just horrible.
ThisUserNameIsNotTakenOMG
The housing cost off as a charitable donation and let homeless people stay there till they get back on their feet. But they chose to keep
ThisUserNameIsNotTakenOMG
The houses empty.
mdgrove1424
Most are owned by govt and banks. Banks could sell for almost nothing and take the loss which isn’t limited by taxable income like
CatsUpvoteTerror
Did everyone in canada got 2k a month? I don't think they did
jjsjosCreator
most who became unemployed due to the pandemic did
mumhmmsw5211
2: Parents of children age 6 and under will also receive $1200 per child
mumhmmsw5211
1 Yes, Every adult who lost their job or income severely reduced. Parents of children received higher than normal benefits.
Kmermaid
People who were unemployed & needed it got it. I'm canadian and have had stable income this whole time, why should I be getting $2k a month
ExcuseMeIAmAnApple
Every month you could apply for covid emergency response benefit which was max 2k and is taxable. People who lost income/work didn't qualify
opwankenop
People who lost work didn't qualify? Or was losing work was not the only criteria for qualification? 2 very different things..
opwankenop
Sorry for the extra was
mumhmmsw5211
Incorrect. This was setup exactly for those that lost employment or whose earnings were reduced by at least 50%
KonHunter
It should be noted that they expanded ei so that those who were not laid off but we're making under 2k/month would have their income 1/2
KonHunter
Topped up to compensate. A number of people I work with went onto that program
blakeatwork
No - it functioned as a form of quick release EI, with only self-attestation required. If you did claim, and were ineligible, /1
opwankenop
What happened then?
blakeatwork
You are obligated to repay any and all of the funds received. If audited for compliance there are punitive fines agreed to by the recipient.
mumhmmsw5211
Incorrect. Funds will not need to be repaid unless you are not entitled for payments.
blakeatwork
That's what I said.
ThatWeirdClownfishGuy
Uh, 2k/mo in Canada was only for unemployed, no? Didn’t the US pay out 2400/mo for unemployed through July?
mumhmmsw5211
That’s what was supposed to happen
Noob3rts
We had it all the way until August afaik
Sask2Ont
Not just unemployed. It was for everyone who earned less than a certain threshold.
ThatWeirdClownfishGuy
Yeah, that’s how unemployment works.
Kmermaid
Yes it was for unemployed. Why would the employed need it. And covid didn't end in July. CERB went on til October then the program switched.
ThatWeirdClownfishGuy
My point is that AOC is lying here, saying US did nothing, when they in fact did more than Canada for several months.
Kmermaid
Didn't the US do a single $1200 check for anyone who's income is below $75k? Sounds to me she's saying it wasn't enough.
Kmermaid
Not to mention, why does someone making $70k or $75k gross income need $1200? Why not give a monthly cheque to those with no income instead
ThatWeirdClownfishGuy
Again, they were getting a monthly check. $2,400.